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2013-05-25 12:46:05 AM
Radioactive Ass:

Puckmarin: I'm saying that I think that a 14 year old should be allowed to make decisions about who they have sex with and their parents shouldn't be able to press charges against their partner.

So you think that A 30 year old should be allowed to have sex with a 14 year old if he\she "Consents"? That is your position?


Yeah,  I guess I do. Although, I think that's a pretty extreme example.

I certainly don't think that a parent should be able to press charges in a relationship that by all accounts was 100% consensual and that the 14 and 18 year old willingly took part in.
 
2013-05-25 12:47:22 AM

Radioactive Ass: tinfoil-hat maggie: //This isn't a statutory rape charge.

You're right. I phrased it incorrectly. Molest, not statutory rape. It's picking nits if you ask me. A guy would have probably gotten a statutory rape charge out of this.

Puckmarin: I'm saying that I think that a 14 year old should be allowed to make decisions about who they have sex with and their parents shouldn't be able to press charges against their partner.

So you think that A 30 year old should be allowed to have sex with a 14 year old if he\she "Consents"? That is your position?

BarkingUnicorn: And she was doing childish things: finger-banging and pussy-licking. Gotta start somewhere, sometime.

And then they moved on to jamming vibrators onto each other.


Some kids learn fast.  So what?
 
2013-05-25 12:47:41 AM

Radioactive Ass: Puckmarin: Not that long ago (~100-150 years) it was pretty common for people to get married and have kids around the age of 14-16.

Not that long ago (~100-150 years) it was ok to own slaves, keep women from voting, use children for forced labor and a host of other things too. Should we go back to that as well?


Ummmm....
 
2013-05-25 12:47:53 AM
Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.
 
2013-05-25 12:48:18 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Granted I didn't make wise or good decisions back then but who does. And it could be argued that I still don't.


Does that mean there's a chance you won't make wise or good decisions if you ever visit San Francisco?
 
2013-05-25 12:48:37 AM

Radioactive Ass: Puckmarin: Not that long ago (~100-150 years) it was pretty common for people to get married and have kids around the age of 14-16.

Not that long ago (~100-150 years) it was ok to own slaves, keep women from voting, use children for forced labor and a host of other things too. Should we go back to that as well?


Yep, everything in history sucks. Can you imagine if we used a system of government from 3000 years ago?
 
2013-05-25 12:48:42 AM

Puckmarin: redslippers:
Uhm, no. Kids that age are not making decisions that would affect the rest of their lives. They chose electives, clothing and hair with guidelines, and sports. Beyond that kids that age make few decisions of consequence because they are children, and anybody who spends 10 minutes with a kid that age would not classify them as anything but children.

Really?  So the decision that I made to actually apply myself at school instead of being lazy had no effect on the rest of my life?  The hard work that I decided to do had no effect?  How about all of the volunteer work that I decided to do?  At 14 I knew full well that the decisions I was making would affect the rest of my life.


Following the rules and applying yourself in school, which a lot of kids do, is hardly the same as making adult decisions. It's what kids are expected and taught to do. The ones who do aren't performing above. The ones who don't are performing below. And doing a good high on your Spanish report and eturning your work in on time is hardly comparable to making complex decisions that affect your physical, mental, and emotional well-being.
 
2013-05-25 12:48:46 AM

Puckmarin: I'd argue that 14 year olds are adults and that we expect them to make "adult" decisions at that age (i.e. decisions about academics that will affect the rest of their lives).


I don't know why this wasn't in the other post but: 14 year olds are NOT adults. Nowhere it the first world are 14 year olds treated as adults with all of the rights and responsibilities of adults. They are barely teenagers. They are in the bottom third of teenagers.
 
2013-05-25 12:49:08 AM

ciberido: Loris: World Traveling Navy Vet: tinfoil-hat maggie: ciberido: itsaidwhat: You are all missing the point: NOT sending a lesbian to a women's prison is the WIN.

-"Pleeeaaaase don't throw me in that briar 'patch'..

Yes, because what lesbians want more than anything in the world is to be raped in prison.

I'm afraid you just stepped into a world filled with idiocy, welcome to the Fark Zone.

Another reason to have you favorited.  I enjoy following all of your posts when I see them as they appear to me to be pure and from the heart, no derp or snark.

Seconded.

Hey, I had Maggie favorited first!


I'm sure many do, and I was late to the game.  Motion carried.
 
2013-05-25 12:49:23 AM

bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.


Explain.  What gives you that idea?
 
2013-05-25 12:49:51 AM

Arthur Jumbles: Neums: The relationship had been going on for some time, when they were 14 and 17. The parents of the then-14-year-old waited until the day Hunt turned 18 to file charges. From what I've read, they're religious, blamed Hunt for coercing and turning their child gay, and planned for the birthday to punish them. But can they prove that they were together once Hunt turned 18? Seems to me that Hunt and the girlfriend could have decided to cool thing down until the girlfriend became legal. If all the activity happened prior to Hunt turning 18, then it's not statutory rape, is it?

If they both state that they stopped having sex after Hunt turned 18 because they were fearful of the legal consequences how are they going to prove otherwise?


Because the they first got together when Hunt was already 18.  Which has been stated over and over and farking over in this thread.
 
2013-05-25 12:50:35 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Internet Meme Rogers: redslippers: Fourteen year olds are still children. They are children just figuring out how to deal with periods and excited about their first crush. Their breasts are still developing. They are still children, just wearing bras and learning how to be responsible enough to make it to class on time. They aren't ready for sex.

That's a pretty vast and rather stupid generalization.

He or she is out to protect their precious snowflake. Let them believe it will keep their 14 yr old from having this problem.


I know someone with a very intelligent and mature daughter who happens to be 15 now. Her behavior is exactly as I have stated before, she will not have sex with someone, or even be in a situation where that might be implied, if it will put them in legal danger, and she is fully aware of the risks of any sexual relationship. She's a damnsight more mature than the Kate defenders in this thread.

Too many people in this thread are equating throbbing hormones with maturity. They are not the same, and that is the reason for legal ages of consent amongst teenagers.
 
2013-05-25 12:50:44 AM

Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?


Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.
 
2013-05-25 12:50:57 AM

Puckmarin: muck4doo: Puckmarin: muck4doo: Puckmarin: I'm 35 and I have a 19 year old f*ck buddy.  That's a 16 year old age difference.  I'm technically old enough to be her father.  There's nothing wrong with this scenario legally or morally.

We are freaking out when two people with a 4 year age difference had sex because one of them happened to be past an arbitrary age that was set years ago by people who know nothing about the two girls having sex with each other.  How is that fair?

Yes, we already know you are all for child molesting if the 13 year old or whatever looks like they want it. Listen, go back to your sick little world of molesting the kids is okay.

No.  I'm not advocating for molesting children.  I'd advocating for giving teenagers the right to choose what they do with their bodies and who they have sex with.  I'm also stating that statutory rape laws are stupid because they are all based around an arbitrary age set by people who have no insight on the individual situation.

No, you are advocating adults be allowed what they want to do with kids bodies, and treat the kids like they are adults for your own personal perverted ideals.

I'd argue that 14 year olds are adults and that we expect them to make "adult" decisions at that age (i.e. decisions about academics that will affect the rest of their lives).

Not that long ago (~100-150 years) it was pretty common for people to get married and have kids around the age of 14-16.


It happened, but it wasn't common, not in the U.S., anyway.

The average age of first marriage in the 1800s was about 22 for women and 26 for men.

http://books.google.com/books?id=e_ZDAme0wxwC&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7&dq=avera g e+age+of+marriage+1800s&source=bl&ots=OhsUyCuqAg&sig=cLwMNkKChHKnAVJtJ SdsYbXnObs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7UGgUfK9FcjF0QGBlYBI&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAjgU#v=onep age&q=average%20age%20of%20marriage%201800s&f=false">http://books.goo gle.com/books?id=e_ZDAme0wxwC&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7&dq=averag e+age+of+marriage+1800s&source=bl&ots=OhsUyCuqAg&sig=cLwMNkKChHKnAVJtJ SdsYbXnObs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7UGgUfK9FcjF0QGBlYBI&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAjgU#v=onep age&q=average%20age%20of%20marriage%201800s&f=false

If you read literature from the early part of the 20th century, one of the ways writers would denote who the "white trash" characters were would be to describe them as having been married in their mid or early teens.
 
2013-05-25 12:51:02 AM

Puckmarin: Radioactive Ass:

Puckmarin: I'm saying that I think that a 14 year old should be allowed to make decisions about who they have sex with and their parents shouldn't be able to press charges against their partner.

So you think that A 30 year old should be allowed to have sex with a 14 year old if he\she "Consents"? That is your position?

Yeah,  I guess I do. Although, I think that's a pretty extreme example.

I certainly don't think that a parent should be able to press charges in a relationship that by all accounts was 100% consensual and that the 14 and 18 year old willingly took part in.


I have a sneaking suspicion you are a fan of "Lolita", and left your desires there.
 
2013-05-25 12:51:19 AM

TomD9938: BTW, in every pic of this chick on the Googles,  she has those same guilty eyes.


I just was about to comment on that. She just has the look that says "I'm bound to regret this photographic evidence!"
 
2013-05-25 12:51:31 AM

Puckmarin: Radioactive Ass:

Puckmarin: I'm saying that I think that a 14 year old should be allowed to make decisions about who they have sex with and their parents shouldn't be able to press charges against their partner.

So you think that A 30 year old should be allowed to have sex with a 14 year old if he\she "Consents"? That is your position?

Yeah,  I guess I do. Although, I think that's a pretty extreme example.

I certainly don't think that a parent should be able to press charges in a relationship that by all accounts was 100% consensual and that the 14 and 18 year old willingly took part in.


And nobody was hurt until the adults got involved.

Somebody's gonna get hurt, obviously; teen relationships rarely last forever.  But 'tis better to have sex and lose it than never to have sex at all.
 
2013-05-25 12:51:55 AM
Because she is giving evidence against the 18yr old in a court of law....
 
2013-05-25 12:52:59 AM

Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?


Puckmarin: Explain! What makes you think she wasn't asking for it?
 
2013-05-25 12:53:11 AM

ciberido: Loris: World Traveling Navy Vet: tinfoil-hat maggie: ciberido: itsaidwhat: You are all missing the point: NOT sending a lesbian to a women's prison is the WIN.

-"Pleeeaaaase don't throw me in that briar 'patch'..

Yes, because what lesbians want more than anything in the world is to be raped in prison.

I'm afraid you just stepped into a world filled with idiocy, welcome to the Fark Zone.

Another reason to have you favorited.  I enjoy following all of your posts when I see them as they appear to me to be pure and from the heart, no derp or snark.

Seconded.

Hey, I had Maggie favorited first!


I feel the love : )
 
2013-05-25 12:53:16 AM

Mock26: kazikian: I don't see why we haven't built ranges into child protection laws yet. Five years seems reasonable. (ie. 18-13 ok, 18-12 not, 22-17 ok, 23-17 no). Or if we were really going to reform the system we might make onset of puberty the cut-off since that's really the defining moment. But how would you go about standardizing that, I dunno. No one wants medical tests to get involved.

A 13 year old and an 8 year old?


Alright, nitpickers, since consent laws only apply when the 18yr barrier is crossed, nothing below 18-13 is applicable. Or if you'd like, one can easily set a math formula that narrows the range at the low end.
 
2013-05-25 12:53:24 AM
I cant tell if I am being trolled or the rape apologist just refuse to look at the affadavit
 
2013-05-25 12:53:27 AM

Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?


Cognitive dissonance.
 
2013-05-25 12:53:45 AM

WhippingBoy: Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?

Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.


Ever think that might be because of the way her parents reacted to this whole affair?

Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.
 
2013-05-25 12:54:10 AM

redslippers: ciberido: redslippers: alienated: redslippers: There was a sexual encounter where Hunt inserted her

sure. bad ancedotal evidence is bad.

Not bad anecdotal evidence. That is straight from the arrest affidavit, and is Ms. Hunt's version of events as well as the victim.

So post a link or back down.

The link has been posted REPEATEDLY. Are you incapable of reading?


Stop trying to confuse people with your internet links, and this "reading" nonsense. People have very legitimate soapboxes from which to pass judgment.

Obviously, someone hates gays out there, and we need to white knight the gays as the internet's morality police because gay people!

Seriously!

Sagus: Apparently the 14 year old parent spoke up about this relationship. They said the relationship didn't start until she was 18 and they told her a couple of time to knock it off.
Beware this is The blaze website, so feel free to flame it all you want but it's the parent side of the affair.If this is accurate and with gays demanding equal rights in society, great I'm all in for it but live like the rest of us in the eyes of the law.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/24/theres-a-major-twist-in-t he -story-about-a-high-school-students-lesbian-relationship-with-a-minor- as-younger-teens-parents-drop-alleged-bombshell/


That one of the 14-yo's parents appears to be African American... well, I don't know what that means, but I think I need another bucket of popcorn.

Just throwing that out there, in any case.
 
2013-05-25 12:55:04 AM

BarkingUnicorn: But 'tis better to have sex and lose it than never to have sex at all.


There we have it. The true mark of a sexual predator. You emphasize with Kate Hunt because you think she thinks the same as you "You're just a freshman, it'll be forever before you get another chance like this. It's better to have sex than not, so you should do it with me."

You've been setting off alarm bells all thread, but that's a flashing neon sign.
 
2013-05-25 12:55:17 AM

OgreMagi: tinfoil-hat maggie: Granted I didn't make wise or good decisions back then but who does. And it could be argued that I still don't.

Does that mean there's a chance you won't make wise or good decisions if you ever visit San Francisco?


Um, well, I hear San Fran has some magical effect on people ; )
 
2013-05-25 12:55:25 AM

Puckmarin: WhippingBoy: Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?

Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.

Ever think that might be because of the way her parents reacted to this whole affair?

Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.


If late november to early january is a somewhat long relationship for you, then wow.
 
2013-05-25 12:55:58 AM
BarkingUnicorn:

And nobody was hurt until the adults got involved.


/End of thread
// End of discussion

The 14 year old's parents have caused more damage to her than having sex with an 18 year old ever could.
 
2013-05-25 12:57:16 AM

Puckmarin: BarkingUnicorn:

And nobody was hurt until the adults got involved.


/End of thread
// End of discussion

The 14 year old's parents have caused more damage to her than having sex with an 18 year old ever could.


The parents found out because she started acting out and having emotional problems, dumbass.
 
2013-05-25 12:57:47 AM

redslippers: Puckmarin: WhippingBoy: Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?

Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.

Ever think that might be because of the way her parents reacted to this whole affair?

Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.

If late november to early january is a somewhat long relationship for you, then wow.


I'm saying that it was more than a chance sexual encounter.  They were dating.
 
2013-05-25 12:58:00 AM

Puckmarin: WhippingBoy: Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?

Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.

Ever think that might be because of the way her parents reacted to this whole affair?

Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.


Subltle way to bring it back to the homosexuality issue. Nice effort on your part.
 
2013-05-25 12:58:37 AM

redslippers: Puckmarin: BarkingUnicorn:

And nobody was hurt until the adults got involved.


/End of thread
// End of discussion

The 14 year old's parents have caused more damage to her than having sex with an 18 year old ever could.

The parents found out because she started acting out and having emotional problems, dumbass.


That has nothing to do with the age of her girlfriend.
 
2013-05-25 12:58:52 AM

Puckmarin: Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.


No necessarily.  Some 21 year old asshole was diddling my 16 year old, bipolar, substance abusing stepdaughter.  Because of her mental illness, she was completely out of control.   All she wanted was to get drunk and stoned and was willing to fark anyone with a bottle of cheap bourbon or some bud.

/her mother's inability to grow a spine didn't help
//If I had gotten my hands on him, I'd probably be in prison
 
2013-05-25 01:00:02 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: OgreMagi: tinfoil-hat maggie: Granted I didn't make wise or good decisions back then but who does. And it could be argued that I still don't.

Does that mean there's a chance you won't make wise or good decisions if you ever visit San Francisco?

Um, well, I hear San Fran has some magical effect on people ; )


If I thought you were even half serious I'd be making plans already.
 
2013-05-25 01:00:17 AM

redslippers: kazikian: I don't see why we haven't built ranges into child protection laws yet. Five years seems reasonable. (ie. 18-13 ok, 18-12 not, 22-17 ok, 23-17 no). Or if we were really going to reform the system we might make onset of puberty the cut-off since that's really the defining moment. But how would you go about standardizing that, I dunno. No one wants medical tests to get involved.

You do realize that the onset of puberty can, and is with increasing regularity, as young as 5 or 6, with onset of menses as early as 7 years old?

So no, onset of puberty is in no way a defining hallmark of readiness for sex.

You are all sounding like you want "grass on the field" laws, and that is wrong on a multitude of levels.

13 and 14 year olds are CHILDREN.


And children sometimes have sex with each other. It might not be desirable but it happens. These laws are designed to prevent scenarios if pedophilia, and pedophilia is defined as an attraction to pre-pubescent kids. Yet we have redefined it as an attraction to anyone under 18, which goes against everything in nature. Now, puberty is coming on younger, so yes we can add a few years to that. I am sickened when a 40 year old abuses a 14 year old and equally sickened when an 18 year old's relationship with same 14 year old is criminalized. Essentially, our child sex laws suffer from the same problem as our drug laws: an inability to distinguish between undesirable/unpopular behavior and criminal behavior.
 
2013-05-25 01:00:48 AM

muck4doo: Puckmarin: WhippingBoy: Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?

Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.

Ever think that might be because of the way her parents reacted to this whole affair?

Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.

Subltle way to bring it back to the homosexuality issue. Nice effort on your part.



I wasn't trying to.  I would have said the same thing if it were a hetero relationship and one of the parties involved was a guy.  If you live in a  household where your parents are going to charge your girlfriend/boyfriend with statutory rape it's probably not the best, most mentally stable environment.
 
2013-05-25 01:00:53 AM

redslippers: Internet Meme Rogers: redslippers: Fourteen year olds are still children. They are children just figuring out how to deal with periods and excited about their first crush. Their breasts are still developing. They are still children, just wearing bras and learning how to be responsible enough to make it to class on time. They aren't ready for sex.

That's a pretty vast and rather stupid generalization.

No, it isn't. You will never find anyone who deals with kids that age to disagree with that. Unless you've taught, counseled, or parented kids that age you have no idea what they are or are nit capable of or ready for.



Well, I've done all of those things. And equally important, I've been a young woman that age. What now?
 
2013-05-25 01:01:39 AM

bukijin: Because she is giving evidence against the 18yr old in a court of law....


But she isn't.  The trial is a long way off.  All we have are adults' testimony about what a child said under interrogation and on a "controlled" phone call. Perhaps most importantly, I haven't seen anything about "I am providing this testimony freely and without coercion."

Parents never coerce kids, right?  No more than cops coerce anyone.
 
2013-05-25 01:03:18 AM
Hey guys! I'm sure according to Puckmarin you guys would all have a problem with an 18 year old guy sticking his dick in your 15 year old daughter, but a lesbian sticking her tongue in your 14 year old shouldn't be a problem at all. Unless you are racist.

/Get a clue.
//Child molesting is child molesting
 
2013-05-25 01:03:22 AM
I guess the point of contention is that when you say "having sex with an 18yr old" we are saying "being raped by an 18yr old".

If it goes to trial then the jury will be the ones to decide which statement is correct. Thanks for the discussion - wasted enough time on this already !
 
2013-05-25 01:04:58 AM
Well, just gonna toss this in the general direction of nobody:

Seems to me that if we're intent on continuing to stretch adolescence further and further into life, we could occasionally go back and update the age limits/differentials for stuff like this. 18 year old kids today are a whole hell of a lot more childlike than they were even 20 years ago. Likewise, the mental distance between 14 and 18 has probably gotten considerably smaller -- and not just because adolescent maturity has been retarded at the far end of the timeline. I think the near end has probably been sped up, if anything. Dunno. The average 14 year old today seems considerably more worldly than what I remember growing up.

We now return to your regularly scheduled flame war.
 
2013-05-25 01:05:01 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Internet Meme Rogers: redslippers: Fourteen year olds are still children. They are children just figuring out how to deal with periods and excited about their first crush. Their breasts are still developing. They are still children, just wearing bras and learning how to be responsible enough to make it to class on time. They aren't ready for sex.

That's a pretty vast and rather stupid generalization.

He or she is out to protect their precious snowflake. Let them believe it will keep their 14 yr old from having this problem.


I believe they said their 17 year old is just now becoming sexually active because she's 'ready'. Thus, you see, she is a good girl and not a slut and sets the standard for the behavior of all other young women.
 
2013-05-25 01:05:30 AM

Boojum2k: tinfoil-hat maggie: Internet Meme Rogers: redslippers: Fourteen year olds are still children. They are children just figuring out how to deal with periods and excited about their first crush. Their breasts are still developing. They are still children, just wearing bras and learning how to be responsible enough to make it to class on time. They aren't ready for sex.

That's a pretty vast and rather stupid generalization.

He or she is out to protect their precious snowflake. Let them believe it will keep their 14 yr old from having this problem.

I know someone with a very intelligent and mature daughter who happens to be 15 now. Her behavior is exactly as I have stated before, she will not have sex with someone, or even be in a situation where that might be implied, if it will put them in legal danger, and she is fully aware of the risks of any sexual relationship. She's a damnsight more mature than the Kate defenders in this thread.

Too many people in this thread are equating throbbing hormones with maturity. They are not the same, and that is the reason for legal ages of consent amongst teenagers.


I know you believe that, and good job if you've taught your kid to be safe and all, and as I have said I'm not saying it's right for an 18 yr old to be with a 14 yr old but it can and does happen. What happens after that (whether they be male or female shouldn't mater but) varies widely on who the parents are.
 
2013-05-25 01:05:40 AM

Puckmarin: muck4doo: Puckmarin: WhippingBoy: Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?

Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.

Ever think that might be because of the way her parents reacted to this whole affair?

Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.

Subltle way to bring it back to the homosexuality issue. Nice effort on your part.


I wasn't trying to.  I would have said the same thing if it were a hetero relationship and one of the parties involved was a guy.  If you live in a  household where your parents are going to charge your girlfriend/boyfriend with statutory rape it's probably not the best, most mentally stable environment.


No. Obviously the best thing is to let it go and look at it as a way of exploring.

/Please tell me you really aren't that dumb.
 
2013-05-25 01:05:49 AM

muck4doo: redslippers: kazikian: I don't see why we haven't built ranges into child protection laws yet. Five years seems reasonable. (ie. 18-13 ok, 18-12 not, 22-17 ok, 23-17 no). Or if we were really going to reform the system we might make onset of puberty the cut-off since that's really the defining moment. But how would you go about standardizing that, I dunno. No one wants medical tests to get involved.

You do realize that the onset of puberty can, and is with increasing regularity, as young as 5 or 6, with onset of menses as early as 7 years old?

So no, onset of puberty is in no way a defining hallmark of readiness for sex.

You are all sounding like you want "grass on the field" laws, and that is wrong on a multitude of levels.

13 and 14 year olds are CHILDREN.

Voted for "Smart". I can't believe there are idiots here trying to defend adults having sex with 14 year olds.


Do you realize that the definition of adult and child is highly subjective? Why is there a magical line at 18, as if someone matures a decade over their birthday? Am I defending an adult having sex with a child? If that adult is 18 and the child is 14, fark yes I'm defending that. If the adult is 60 and the child is 8, hell no. The problem is that it's very difficult to draw the line. Is 22-16 ok? 23-18? 20-16? 18-14? These are borderline cases, and everyone will have a different opinion. But I think everyone will agree that these laws were not meant to stop consensual relationships. Of course now, you can say anyone under 18 can't consent. And again, we have a point for debate, because while legally true we all know that in some cases that's bullshiat. Think back to your mid-teens; would you have defended a law that tells you who you can and can't fark? Would you have obeyed such a law?
 
2013-05-25 01:06:13 AM

Boojum2k: BarkingUnicorn: But 'tis better to have sex and lose it than never to have sex at all.

There we have it. The true mark of a sexual predator. You emphasize with Kate Hunt because you think she thinks the same as you "You're just a freshman, it'll be forever before you get another chance like this. It's better to have sex than not, so you should do it with me."

You've been setting off alarm bells all thread, but that's a flashing neon sign.


LOL!  The true mark of a sexual predator is that he gets a lot of sex. The only alrarm bells and neon lights are on your meds dispenser.
 
2013-05-25 01:06:54 AM

Puckmarin: WhippingBoy: Puckmarin: bukijin: Actually I suspect that the 14yr old wasn't as "willing" as many here think.

Explain.  What gives you that idea?

Apparently she's now in intensive therapy.

Ever think that might be because of the way her parents reacted to this whole affair?

Something tells me that if your parents are going to charge your girlfriend (who you obviously care about & have had a somewhat long relationship with) with statutory rape that your home life probably isn't the best.


Two months is a long relationship?
 
2013-05-25 01:06:55 AM
I'm so freakin' hammered right now...
 
2013-05-25 01:07:17 AM

redslippers: ciberido: redslippers: alienated: redslippers: There was a sexual encounter where Hunt inserted her

sure. bad ancedotal evidence is bad.

Not bad anecdotal evidence. That is straight from the arrest affidavit, and is Ms. Hunt's version of events as well as the victim.

So post a link or back down.

The link has been posted REPEATEDLY. Are you incapable of reading?


No, but I am capable of recognizing an asshat when I talk to one.
 
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