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2013-05-24 11:47:24 AM
I love her argument that her show is a feminist statement. How is showing whiny loses engage in unsatisfying sex a feminist statement? Not one person on that show has a single redeeming quality. If that is feminism bring back patriarchy.
 
2013-05-24 12:13:05 PM
My bet is she was paid to send these tweets out about the movie, otherwise no one would have heard of the movie.
 
2013-05-24 12:50:28 PM
Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz - threw a hissy fit last night on Twitter over the whole thing, because feminism...

"Throw a hissy-fit" = "put forth a trio of reasoned explanations" because women be crazy and shiat, yo.
 
2013-05-24 01:53:51 PM
Except that her reasons have very little to do with her stated goals. You have to accept that her show is a feminist statement to begin with. She may think it is but .... The ONLY reason men watch it is to see naked chicks, well naked chicks besides HER. The ONLY reason HBO broadcasts it is because of the nudity and simulated sex. Take those out of the show and you have a bunch of whinny females complaining about life and men. In contrast "Mad Men" is a very sexy show, mostly written and directed by women, without a single boob flash. In twenty years people will still be watching "Mad Men.' In three years she will be yesterday's news.
 
2013-05-24 02:05:29 PM

Delawheredad: Except that her reasons have very little to do with her stated goals. You have to accept that her show is a feminist statement to begin with. She may think it is but .... The ONLY reason men watch it is to see naked chicks, well naked chicks besides HER. The ONLY reason HBO broadcasts it is because of the nudity and simulated sex. Take those out of the show and you have a bunch of whinny females complaining about life and men. In contrast "Mad Men" is a very sexy show, mostly written and directed by women, without a single boob flash. In twenty years people will still be watching "Mad Men.' In three years she will be yesterday's news.


The main reason I do NOT watch girls is because I have no desire to ever, ever see Lena Dunham naked.
 
2013-05-24 02:21:33 PM

Delawheredad: Except that her reasons have very little to do with her stated goals. You have to accept that her show is a feminist statement to begin with. She may think it is but .... The ONLY reason men watch it is to see naked chicks, well naked chicks besides HER. The ONLY reason HBO broadcasts it is because of the nudity and simulated sex. Take those out of the show and you have a bunch of whinny females complaining about life and men. In contrast "Mad Men" is a very sexy show, mostly written and directed by women, without a single boob flash. In twenty years people will still be watching "Mad Men.' In three years she will be yesterday's news.


I can't really recall any boob flashes besides her own once with the blonde hippie chick. Anyway, I do see why she sees her show as "feminist" - these are regular girls - not airbrushed in any way - doing regular sex things. It takes the fantasy away from the "porn" and makes the sex real again. I get it and have no problem with Dunham's comfort in her skin.

The story line though... I have a hard time really seeing any of her characters as feminist per se. Except for maybe Shoshana who seems to be the most mature "don't need a man to make me happy" girl of the group.
 
2013-05-24 02:24:54 PM

Delawheredad: In contrast "Mad Men" is a very sexy show, mostly written and directed by women, without a single boob flash.


i could swear i saw some side nipple on the airline lounge waitress that roger was banging, when she got out of bed.  not bad for regualr cable.
 
2013-05-24 02:25:24 PM
I will never watch "Girls". It sounds dum...

Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz -

*
runs off to HBOGO*
 
2013-05-24 02:25:53 PM
Call me when they show Allison Williams naked.
 
2013-05-24 02:29:45 PM
I watched the entire first season of Girls because I heard how great it was. I didn't like it, mainly because the characters had zero redeeming qualities.

Then, I was told it was a comedy. I didn't like it even more.

There is no doubt in my mind that the parody would be much funnier than anything that has happened on the show.
 
2013-05-24 02:33:17 PM
30 Rock did it classy - they had an episode where Tracy writes a porn sketch about Liz and Jenna, and the casting gag was that they hired actresses from the 30 Rock porn parody.
 
2013-05-24 02:37:27 PM
I tried getting into it when the critics all loved it but man, what a slow, uninteresting show full of non-sympathetic characters doing basically nothing. I don't see the appeal at all, unless maybe youre a 20-something New Yorker who likes to see people do things you and your friends may or may not be doing, except on HBO.

It's not even a standard 'pretty white people with problems' show, just 'averageish white people doing things i guess'.
 
2013-05-24 02:37:30 PM
I'm glad she's grossed out kinda, serves her right.  I've found myself wishing she would put on some clothes way too many times.
 
2013-05-24 02:38:11 PM

Delawheredad: I love her argument that her show is a feminist statement. How is showing whiny loses engage in unsatisfying sex a feminist statement? Not one person on that show has a single redeeming quality. If that is feminism bring back patriarchy.


I thought she was an OK gal, in an overpriveledged-white-hipster sort of way.  Nope.  Just a Wymyn's Studies major who got lucky.
 
2013-05-24 02:38:22 PM
I will buy that they are regular girls with no airbrushing. I can actually get behind that idea. Perhaps if the show wasn't so simultaneously whiny AND preachy I could support it. Ordinary women taking their clothes off is NOT in and of itself ground breaking. They very porn industry she despises has beaten her to the punch on that front by decades. Showing normal women engaging in simulated sex is NOT making a feminist statement if it were virtually every middle aged couple who filmed themselves during sex would be making a feminist statement!

   Her ENTIRE schtick is I'm a feminist icon who is not afraid to get naked. Sorry that does NOT make you a feminist icon.
 
2013-05-24 02:41:51 PM
 "I want you to know the first time I fark you, I might scare you a little, because I'm a man and I know how to do things."

- Best pickup line ever
 
2013-05-24 02:47:21 PM
I really tried to enjoy this show.  There is some clever writing, and the characters are sharply realized.  But the show just plain doesn't work because:

1) Not one redeemable character.  Characters can be unlikeable or unrelateable.  Not both.
2) It is very much convinced of its own excellence.

Plus, I bristle deeply at the idea that this show is taken as some sort of comment on my age group.  Even though Hannah is portrayed as delusional in assuming she is a voice of her generation, you can't shake the idea that that's how Dunham actually wants the show to be perceived (and, to my chagrin, she has somewhat succeeded in that goal).

At a time in American history where popular culture is as fractured as it's ever been, there haven't been many, if any, voices that unite us and accurately represent our sensibilities, the way The Simpsons and SNL once did.  Girls clearly tries to do that, but it does it through the narrowest possible prism: a moderately clever young woman and the loathsome narcissists she calls her friends, somehow surviving on no money in a peculiarly desolate and insular depiction of New York City.
 
2013-05-24 02:51:53 PM

HoboCop: I'm glad she's grossed out kinda, serves her right.  I've found myself wishing she would put on some clothes way too many times.


Ostensibly, Dunham's nudity is an act of bravery, being as dowdy and frumpy as she is.  But it always comes off less like "hey, frumpy girls can be sexy too" and more like "I'm so in love with myself, I don't care I gross people out."
 
2013-05-24 02:52:26 PM

devilEther: "I want you to know the first time I fark you, I might scare you a little, because I'm a man and I know how to do things."

- Best pickup line ever


I believe that is incorrect.  The best pickup line is:

"I'm independently wealthy." - Les Nessman, WKRP
 
2013-05-24 02:55:33 PM
Snatch Bandergrip

   You said it so much better than I could. One of the most puzzling aspects of the show is how it portrays New York City. Its an alternate universe NYC, certainly not the one that exists on earth.
 
2013-05-24 02:59:33 PM

vartian: Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz - threw a hissy fit last night on Twitter over the whole thing, because feminism...

"Throw a hissy-fit" = "put forth a trio of reasoned explanations" because women be crazy and shiat, yo.


Ya no......

None of those positions are reasoned
 
2013-05-24 02:59:59 PM

Delawheredad: I love her argument that her show is a feminist statement. How is showing whiny loses engage in unsatisfying sex a feminist statement?


If this show were aired maybe two decades ago, I could see her point. I'm part of her age demographic and I'm already long aware and accepting of the kind of womanhood a show like Girls projects. Maybe the show isn't intended to be as provocative or potentially objectionable as her quote makes it out to be, but if so...no.

I don't dislike the show, but I want to know what rock someone lives under if they find the content particularly eye-opening or challenging.
 
2013-05-24 03:07:20 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: I will never watch "Girls". It sounds dum...

Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz -

*runs off to HBOGO*


*actually sees Lena Dunham's boobs*

*runs away from HBOGO*
 
2013-05-24 03:08:03 PM
Lena Dunham.  Even her name is ugly.
 
2013-05-24 03:12:19 PM

Lollipop165: Delawheredad: Except that her reasons have very little to do with her stated goals. You have to accept that her show is a feminist statement to begin with. She may think it is but .... The ONLY reason men watch it is to see naked chicks, well naked chicks besides HER. The ONLY reason HBO broadcasts it is because of the nudity and simulated sex. Take those out of the show and you have a bunch of whinny females complaining about life and men. In contrast "Mad Men" is a very sexy show, mostly written and directed by women, without a single boob flash. In twenty years people will still be watching "Mad Men.' In three years she will be yesterday's news.

I can't really recall any boob flashes besides her own once with the blonde hippie chick. Anyway, I do see why she sees her show as "feminist" - these are regular girls - not airbrushed in any way - doing regular sex things. It takes the fantasy away from the "porn" and makes the sex real again. I get it and have no problem with Dunham's comfort in her skin.

The story line though... I have a hard time really seeing any of her characters as feminist per se. Except for maybe Shoshana who seems to be the most mature "don't need a man to make me happy" girl of the group.


The girl Adam was dating showed them

The characters suck as human beings and the writing has gone down hill massively in season 2.  The ending was complete cheesy garbage, they might as well have replaced Lena w/ Molly Ringwald and Adam w/ John Cusack
 
2013-05-24 03:13:11 PM

Delawheredad: I love her argument that her show is a feminist statement. How is showing whiny loses engage in unsatisfying sex a feminist statement? Not one person on that show has a single redeeming quality. If that is feminism bring back patriarchy.


Adam, he's the only decent person, he just likes a little different sex then some.
 
2013-05-24 03:13:58 PM

ColSanders: Call me when they show Allison Williams naked.


I'm sure we'll find out on NBC News.
 
2013-05-24 03:16:54 PM
The show, from what I recall, is a bunch of young women, who are basically rudderless unless attached to me. Yay feminism.
 
2013-05-24 03:20:19 PM
I initially read the headline as "Leon Durham..." and thought that some sizzling magazine visages in the clubhouse/dugout led to that crucial error.
 
2013-05-24 03:24:50 PM

Mr. Richard Smoker: The show, from what I recall, is a bunch of young women, who are basically rudderless unless attached to me. Yay feminism.


funny typo
 
2013-05-24 03:34:25 PM

Delawheredad: Her ENTIRE schtick is I'm a feminist icon who is not afraid to get naked. Sorry that does NOT make you a feminist icon.


It's Palin-Feminism. Feminist used to be about breaking stereotypes and eliminating gender roles negativity. Now a certain part of feminism is saying it's empowering to those stereotypes and gender role negatives.  Now it's empowering to be a vapid slut who spends most of her life nailing random men for pleasure or being a woman who thinks her husband should control every aspect of her life.
 
2013-05-24 03:35:49 PM
It wasnt real jizz I hope abd frankly it showed how farking weird it is to cum in someone's tits up until her character got back together with that creepy scuzzy ugly scumbag
 
2013-05-24 03:39:45 PM

Killer Cars: Delawheredad: I love her argument that her show is a feminist statement. How is showing whiny loses engage in unsatisfying sex a feminist statement?

If this show were aired maybe two decades ago, I could see her point. I'm part of her age demographic and I'm already long aware and accepting of the kind of womanhood a show like Girls projects. Maybe the show isn't intended to be as provocative or potentially objectionable as her quote makes it out to be, but if so...no.

I don't dislike the show, but I want to know what rock someone lives under if they find the content particularly eye-opening or challenging.


No one does: But the executives at HBO and Lena think people do
 
2013-05-24 03:43:50 PM
Also the sex scenes in Girls are all farking weird. It goes from making out straight to penetration, then direct to hastily dressing. Most male-centered sex Ive seen
 
2013-05-24 03:46:36 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Jim from Saint Paul: I will never watch "Girls". It sounds dum...

Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz -

*runs off to HBOGO*

*actually sees Lena Dunham's boobs*

*runs away from HBOGO*


I am sure I've fapped to worse as I have spent time on 4Chan.
 
2013-05-24 03:53:05 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: FuryOfFirestorm: Jim from Saint Paul: I will never watch "Girls". It sounds dum...

Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz -

*runs off to HBOGO*

*actually sees Lena Dunham's boobs*

*runs away from HBOGO*

I am sure I've fapped to worse as I have spent time on 4Chan.


Yes: But only if you've fapped to gore
 
2013-05-24 04:01:39 PM

karasoth: Jim from Saint Paul: FuryOfFirestorm: Jim from Saint Paul: I will never watch "Girls". It sounds dum...

Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz -

*runs off to HBOGO*

*actually sees Lena Dunham's boobs*

*runs away from HBOGO*

I am sure I've fapped to worse as I have spent time on 4Chan.

Yes: But only if you've fapped to gore


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

3.bp.blogspot.com

If you can fap to these dudes, then I guess you can fap to Len Dunham's soggy flapjacks.
 
2013-05-24 04:06:39 PM
www.blackbookmag.com
media.urbandictionary.com
 
2013-05-24 04:09:04 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: karasoth: Jim from Saint Paul: FuryOfFirestorm: Jim from Saint Paul: I will never watch "Girls". It sounds dum...

Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz -

*runs off to HBOGO*

*actually sees Lena Dunham's boobs*

*runs away from HBOGO*

I am sure I've fapped to worse as I have spent time on 4Chan.

Yes: But only if you've fapped to gore

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If you can fap to these dudes, then I guess you can fap to Len Dunham's soggy flapjacks.


Oh whatever. I'll just look it up on my phoHGODWHATARETHOSE.
 
2013-05-24 04:15:41 PM

Lollipop165: Delawheredad: Except that her reasons have very little to do with her stated goals. You have to accept that her show is a feminist statement to begin with. She may think it is but .... The ONLY reason men watch it is to see naked chicks, well naked chicks besides HER. The ONLY reason HBO broadcasts it is because of the nudity and simulated sex. Take those out of the show and you have a bunch of whinny females complaining about life and men. In contrast "Mad Men" is a very sexy show, mostly written and directed by women, without a single boob flash. In twenty years people will still be watching "Mad Men.' In three years she will be yesterday's news.

I can't really recall any boob flashes besides her own once with the blonde hippie chick. Anyway, I do see why she sees her show as "feminist" - these are regular girls - not airbrushed in any way - doing regular boring sex things. It takes the fantasy away from the "porn" and makes the sex real boring again. I get it and have no problem with Dunham's comfort in her skin.

The story line though... I have a hard time really seeing any of her characters as feminist per se. Except for maybe Shoshana who seems to be the most mature "don't need a man to make me happy" girl of the group.



Fixed
 
2013-05-24 04:21:42 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Oh whatever. I'll just look it up on my phoHGODWHATARETHOSE.


The thing that's so weird is that she is has creative control over that show, which means that every scene of unnecessary, gratuitous, boner murdering nudity is there because she wants it there.

It's like Bryan Cranston. He can only have SO MANY scenes of him in his tighty whities before you have to start thinking that he's requesting it.
 
2013-05-24 04:23:39 PM
I tell ya, after a long day of dealing with the real world, what I want to do is escape to the world of TV where I can see regular people who look just like everyone doing real things and having real problems. Now THAT'S entertainment.
 
2013-05-24 04:23:59 PM

Delawheredad: I love her argument that her show is a feminist statement. How is showing whiny loses engage in unsatisfying sex a feminist statement? Not one person on that show has a single redeeming quality. If that is feminism bring back patriarchy.


It shows that women are just like men.
 
2013-05-24 04:30:12 PM
So, your show makes unfunny jokes that blatantly bash racial stereotypes, such as "Asian with iPad" and "ghetto black man", and this is what offends you?
 
2013-05-24 04:44:51 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Jim from Saint Paul: I will never watch "Girls". It sounds dum...

Yes, Dunham - whose show last season featured a scene showing her character's boobs covered in jizz -

*runs off to HBOGO*

*actually sees Lena Dunham's boobs*

*runs away from HBOGO*


Her boobs are actually one of her best features.  Ugly hairstyle and bad tattoos on her roly-poly body, not so much.
 
2013-05-24 04:52:52 PM
Why does Lena feel the need to mask her disgust behind a veil of academic verbiage?  Porn can and is enjoyed by both sexes, and you would think someone who is trying to foster a sense of maturity (via her sex scenes) would know better than to be so childish about this.  Honestly, it reeks of homophobia to some degree, and shows that someone places the show's success far too personally.

That said, she needs some growing as an artist if this bothers her.  Fame comes with this sort of thing.  To adapt a haughty (and condescending) attitude about it to cover her obvious distaste is pretty stunning, especially since she feels the need to hide behind theory to do so.  Especially outdated theory that assumes that porn is only for men and that women--the same women she's apparently trying to showcase--don't watch it.

I have never seen the show, but if it's being written by this woman, I don't think I'll bother.  She doesn't really get anything about show business and cannot see why her show is famous and is grossly misunderstanding why HBO probably picked it up.
 
2013-05-24 04:55:29 PM
What?

Who?
 
2013-05-24 05:14:08 PM
My wife and I discovered this show in Season 1 and were immediately hooked. Then Season 2 happened and we both looked at each other with that WTF? face. The wheels just fell off. We've stopped watching. The characters and storylines just became too disjointed and unlikeable. What I dislike the most is that Dunham (and the others to an extent- they're all the daughters of VERY famous people) has become her own cult of personality. When it comes to the creators of shows, I don't want to hear from you. Show me your genius within the dynamic of your writing/directing. NOT your farking Tweets.

Veep, FTW!
 
2013-05-24 05:14:37 PM
I guess I'm the only one who sees "Lena Dunham" and thinks about Fringe in a somewhat confused manner as aren't there two characters each with part of that name and did the cute one from Oz ever get naked?...wanders off...
 
2013-05-24 05:17:03 PM
Also:

Being mad at getting a Parody porn is like being bad Weird Al did a parody based on one of your songs

It just is a total dick move
 
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