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2013-05-24 09:07:09 AM
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For once the shoe is on the other foot for the Red Wings. We're used to being the top seed getting outplayed by a young hungry core that rolled into the playoffs and rides a hot goalie...
 
2013-05-24 09:08:28 AM
most stanley cup champions don't win back to back cups, so ....
 
2013-05-24 09:11:26 AM

bongmiester: most stanley cup champions don't win back to back cups, so ....


Most... is correct.

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2013-05-24 09:53:28 AM
I am not the biggest hockey fan but the Stanley Cup Playoffs is the best tournament in all of sports.
 
2013-05-24 09:55:35 AM
This headline is all wrong.

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2013-05-24 09:56:38 AM
Uh, the Kings are the reigning champs...
 
2013-05-24 09:57:06 AM
I.. I think the Bruins and Kings have won the Stanley Cup in the time since the Blackhawks won it..

Subby, have you been in a hole for the past three years?
 
2013-05-24 09:57:59 AM
Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.
 
2013-05-24 09:58:28 AM

Gunny Highway: I am not the biggest hockey fan but the Stanley Cup Playoffs is the best tournament in all of sports.


No question about it.
 
2013-05-24 09:59:42 AM
3-2 lead is on the verge of being eliminated?
 
2013-05-24 10:01:42 AM

Moleculo: Uh, the Kings are the reigning champs...


soopey: I.. I think the Bruins and Kings have won the Stanley Cup in the time since the Blackhawks won it..

Subby, have you been in a hole for the past three years?


miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.


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2013-05-24 10:03:05 AM

miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.


Subby is probably a Detroit fan, not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
 
2013-05-24 10:04:30 AM

sigdiamond2000: Moleculo: Uh, the Kings are the reigning champs...

soopey: I.. I think the Bruins and Kings have won the Stanley Cup in the time since the Blackhawks won it..

Subby, have you been in a hole for the past three years?

miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.

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And now they added the word "presumed" to the headline because nobody got the joke.
 
2013-05-24 10:04:47 AM

Moleculo: Uh, the Kings are the reigning champs...


miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.


soopey: I.. I think the Bruins and Kings have won the Stanley Cup in the time since the Blackhawks won it..

Subby, have you been in a hole for the past three years?


That headline went RIGHT over your heads...
 
2013-05-24 10:05:55 AM
Laughter OL.

Headline changed due to underdeveloped sense of humor by target audience.
/Not submitter
 
2013-05-24 10:06:54 AM

grokca: miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.

Subby is probably a Detroit fan, not the sharpest knives in the drawer.


The ironing is delicious.
 
2013-05-24 10:10:51 AM

sigdiamond2000: grokca: miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.

Subby is probably a Detroit fan, not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

The ironing is delicious.


So is the Grahamer...
 
2013-05-24 10:11:32 AM
I've never seen such a simple joke go over everyone's head like that before. Well done, Fark.
 
2013-05-24 10:12:07 AM
The presumed Stanley Cup Champions can eliminate the Senators tonight.
 
2013-05-24 10:13:44 AM
Ok, I'm feeling slow this morning. Anyone want to hold my hand through the joke that I'm missing?
 
2013-05-24 10:14:33 AM
presumed vs reigning  - film at 11
 
2013-05-24 10:15:50 AM
Pens are up 3-1 Subs.
 
2013-05-24 10:16:27 AM

sboyle1020: Moleculo: Uh, the Kings are the reigning champs...

miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.

soopey: I.. I think the Bruins and Kings have won the Stanley Cup in the time since the Blackhawks won it..

Subby, have you been in a hole for the past three years?

That headline went RIGHT over your heads...


Yep. Still a little foggy from last night. Time for more coffee.
 
2013-05-24 10:18:44 AM
since 2000-2001 season only 3 teams that have won the President's Trophy have also lifted the cup (1 year taken out for the strike).

subby's joke just sucked is all.
 
2013-05-24 10:19:22 AM

miss diminutive: Ok, I'm feeling slow this morning. Anyone want to hold my hand through the joke that I'm missing?


Initially, the headline didn't have the word presumed, so it read:

The Stanley Cup champions are on the verge of being eliminated from the second round of the playoffs

Instead of people realizing it was a joke (with Chicago's strong start and all the shiat talk that came with it), everyone just pointed out that Chicago indeed didn't win the Cup last year.
 
2013-05-24 10:19:49 AM
Hawks in 7.
 
2013-05-24 10:20:34 AM

miss diminutive: Ok, I'm feeling slow this morning. Anyone want to hold my hand through the joke that I'm missing?


You see, the Hawks were so awesome in the regular season that every analyst was saying they couldn't not be stopped and were shoe ins to win the cup...and now they're going to lose.
 
2013-05-24 10:22:00 AM

Hillbilly Jim: Pens are up 3-1 Subs.


THIS
 
2013-05-24 10:22:29 AM
The Champions may be eliminated.  You know which one I'm talking about.

I make funny joke about sports!
 
2013-05-24 10:23:43 AM

sboyle1020: couldn't not


What the hell is wrong with me....
 
2013-05-24 10:24:12 AM
When the captain of your team is losing his shiat constantly, it does not bode well for the team. I have played a couple hockey games over the years, and the young guns with skill and speed are not always the team that comes out on top.
 
2013-05-24 10:24:44 AM

domdare: miss diminutive: Ok, I'm feeling slow this morning. Anyone want to hold my hand through the joke that I'm missing?

Initially, the headline didn't have the word presumed, so it read:

The Stanley Cup champions are on the verge of being eliminated from the second round of the playoffs

Instead of people realizing it was a joke (with Chicago's strong start and all the shiat talk that came with it), everyone just pointed out that Chicago indeed didn't win the Cup last year.


Ah ok, thanks. Guess I should pay attention to the regular season.

/hangs head in shame
 
2013-05-24 10:28:17 AM

SovietCanuckistan: When the captain of your team is losing his shiat constantly, it does not bode well for the team. I have played a couple hockey games over the years, and the young guns with skill and speed are not always the team that comes out on top.


Toews has been in the league 6 seasons, he's not that young any more.

Looking at the Oilers, this example is fitting.
 
2013-05-24 10:32:06 AM

Gunny Highway: I am not the biggest hockey fan but the Stanley Cup Playoffs is the best tournament in all of sports.


It's pretty sweet.  Although, I do love England's Football Association Cup.  It's a year long tournament where all the teams at pretty much every level of English soccer gets to put a team in.  This past year, there were 758 teams competing.  There's something just outlandish about a tournament like that.

Still, Stanley Cup Playoffs are awesome.
 
2013-05-24 10:32:46 AM
Can't say they aren't earning it. Don't know what's up with Toews' head game but the Hawks haven't gotten a lucky bounce on any of those post-hitters either. I hate that *DING* sound followed by the puck flying off towards the corner... I think the lone (non-empty) DET goal last night was off the post too. Howard's playing great, don't see the Hawks winning more than maybe one in Chicago this weekend, but at this rate they won't even see the net again this season.

Exciting game though.
 
2013-05-24 10:34:48 AM

grokca: miss diminutive: Um, the current Stanley Cup champions are the LA Kings.....

The Blackhawks won in 2010.

Subby is probably a Detroit fan, not the sharpest knives in the drawer.


Humor too subtle for you?  Looks like the mods cleared it up for people unable to figure out the (obvious) joke.
 
2013-05-24 10:35:19 AM

domdare: miss diminutive: Ok, I'm feeling slow this morning. Anyone want to hold my hand through the joke that I'm missing?

Initially, the headline didn't have the word presumed, so it read:

The Stanley Cup champions are on the verge of being eliminated from the second round of the playoffs

Instead of people realizing it was a joke (with Chicago's strong start and all the shiat talk that came with it), everyone just pointed out that Chicago indeed didn't win the Cup last year.


Most Hawks fans weren't really shiat talking. From what I recall, myself including, most of us were worried that the Hawks were going to blow their wad in the regular season and hit their slump in the playoffs. That's exactly what's happening now.

I'd say the majority of the shiat talk came from fans of other teams, especially the geniuses that predicted an early exit for the Hawks, because it's so hard for someone to guess that the team with the best regular season record won't win it all. If they do win, nobody remembers or cares about your bold prediction, and if they don't, you get to point out it out and pretend to be some master of sports prognostication.

Either way, the Wings have outplayed the Hawks and I give the team all the respect they deserve. Their fans, however, can all eat a bag of dicks.
 
2013-05-24 10:36:22 AM
^ I'm hungover. Please excuse my poor grammar and typing mistakes in the above post.
 
2013-05-24 10:37:29 AM

WhiskeySticks: Looking at the Oilers, this example is fitting.


Except we're talking about teams that actually make the playoffs.
 
2013-05-24 10:39:11 AM
Hawks fans around here are blaming the officiating. Its comical.

/go Pens
 
2013-05-24 10:40:02 AM

swankywanky: since 2000-2001 season only 3 teams that have won the President's Trophy have also lifted the cup (1 year taken out for the strike).

subby's joke just sucked is all.


What's the President's Trophy have to do with it?
 
2013-05-24 10:42:42 AM
Anyone that remembers their performance against Anaheim or Vancouver in the regular season isn't surprised by this.
 
2013-05-24 10:42:58 AM

SlagginOff: Either way, the Wings have outplayed the Hawks and I give the team all the respect they deserve. Their fans, however, can all eat a bag of dicks.


Hungover or not...THIS.

iron_city_ap: Hawks fans around here are blaming the officiating. Its comical.

/go Pens


Officiating blamed not once.

/hawks in 7
 
2013-05-24 10:43:38 AM
winning the president's cup has become a jinx.  i think only 6 teams have one both the president's and stanley cup in the last 25 years.
 
2013-05-24 10:44:08 AM
I was at the Stars last regular season game against the Red Wings. The Stars were of course eliminated from any chance at the playoffs by that point, but the Red Wings had to win this last game to clinch their spot. The Stars could have at least played spoiler to Red Wings, but they pretty much laid down and let Detroit win with ease. I leaned over and told the friend I was with that it would be funny if the Red Wings ended up winning the Cup after just barely squeaking in... Not that they've won yet, but they're getting closer.

/The butthurt from the Chicago fans I know on Facebook is more entertaining than that game was.
 
2013-05-24 10:44:57 AM

Hillbilly Jim: Pens are up 3-1 Subs.


this.

also, sharks in six
 
2013-05-24 10:52:56 AM

thisiszombocom: also, sharks in six


I don't think that possible.....this year.
 
2013-05-24 10:53:45 AM

WhiskeySticks: SlagginOff: Either way, the Wings have outplayed the Hawks and I give the team all the respect they deserve. Their fans, however, can all eat a bag of dicks.

Hungover or not...THIS.

iron_city_ap: Hawks fans around here are blaming the officiating. Its comical.

/go Pens

Officiating blamed not once.

/hawks in 7


I wish I had your optimism. I'm already resigned to watching the Sox strand runners all summer.
 
2013-05-24 10:53:51 AM
soopey:  I.. I think the Bruins and Kings have won the Stanley Cup in the time since the Blackhawks won it..

Subby, have you been in a hole for the past three years?


Nope.  Just made a mistake.  I forgot that Fark is populated by those who never do.
 
2013-05-24 10:54:31 AM

bongmiester: winning the president's cup has become a jinx.  i think only 6 teams have one both the president's and stanley cup in the last 25 years.


7, actually, which is more than teams in any other of the 15 playoff slots have done.  Plus, 3 that made it to the Finals and lost.  So 10 of 25 times, the President's Trophy Winners made the Stanley Cup Finals (40% of the time) and 7 of 25 they've won (28%).  Those aren't bad numbers considering that there are 15 other teams.
 
2013-05-24 10:56:07 AM

browneye: soopey:  I.. I think the Bruins and Kings have won the Stanley Cup in the time since the Blackhawks won it..

Subby, have you been in a hole for the past three years?

Nope.  Just made a mistake.  I forgot that Fark is populated by those who never do.


Regret nothing!  It was a good joke and it was funny watching people trip over themselves because they didn't get it.
 
2013-05-24 10:56:55 AM
Does anyone know the Heimlich maneuver? The Chicago Blackhawks are choking on Wings!

/disgruntled fan since 1966
 
2013-05-24 10:57:58 AM

greggm59: Does anyone know the Heimlich maneuver? The Chicago Blackhawks are choking on Wings!

/disgruntled fan since 1966


um... you know you won the cup in 2010 right?
 
2013-05-24 10:58:30 AM

greggm59: Does anyone know the Heimlich maneuver? The Chicago Blackhawks are choking on Wings!

/disgruntled fan since 1966


i heard it was goat

//wait, wrong sport
 
2013-05-24 10:59:48 AM
As a Wings fan, I'm not going to complain about the lead but was hoping this would be a better series. Toews spent half the game in the box last night -- what was up with that? After fearing this match-up, I actually would like to see Chicago a bit more competitive before the end. I thought a Pens-Hawks final would be awesome to watch this season but will be more than happy to be the spoiler instead.
 
2013-05-24 11:08:33 AM

killershark: As a Wings fan, I'm not going to complain about the lead but was hoping this would be a better series. Toews spent half the game in the box last night -- what was up with that?


Captain Serious Meltdown. Nice example of leadership there, taking three stupid penalties within a span of five minutes, 10 seconds.To all Blackhawks fans (which I am one of) that want to blame the officiating, please STFU. Detroit is playing with poise, while Chicago's supposedly best players are nowhere to be found near the score sheet. It's no accident that they're getting their asses handed to them.
 
2013-05-24 11:13:05 AM
I wouldn't count out the Hawks just yet.

Toews is just awesome intangibles.
 
2013-05-24 11:25:05 AM

grokca: 3-2 lead is on the verge of being eliminated?


Considering they only need to lose one game to start their golf season, yes.
 
2013-05-24 11:25:47 AM

Deadguy2322: grokca: 3-2 lead is on the verge of being eliminated?

Considering they only need to lose one game to start their golf season, yes.


Duh. Read that backward. I is speshul.
 
2013-05-24 11:27:19 AM

legion_of_doo: I wouldn't count out the Hawks just yet.

Toews is just awesome intangibles. crying biatch.


dude commits penalties all the time and whines every time. That two handed check on Franzen by Sharp I believe was a bluntest mis call.
 
2013-05-24 11:27:28 AM
Bruins vs. Wings in the final.

Book it.  Done.

/Bruins in 5
 
2013-05-24 11:41:42 AM

RumsfeldsReplacement: Bruins vs. Wings in the final.

Book it.  Done.

/Bruins in 5


Would be interesting to see Detroit face off against a soon-to-be divisional rival.  And lose.
 
2013-05-24 11:44:23 AM

great_tigers: legion_of_doo: I wouldn't count out the Hawks just yet.

Toews is just awesome intangibles. crying biatch.

dude commits penalties all the time and whines every time. That two handed check on Franzen by Sharp I believe was a bluntest mis call.


I have no idea what's going on with Toews. He used to be so stoic and just got the job done. Now he's losing control of his emotions and making stupid penalties and biatching all the time. After the Hawks lose this series Quenneville should sit him down and threaten his captain status if he doesn't want to grow up.
 
2013-05-24 11:55:53 AM

SlagginOff: great_tigers: legion_of_doo: I wouldn't count out the Hawks just yet.

Toews is just awesome intangibles. crying biatch.

dude commits penalties all the time and whines every time. That two handed check on Franzen by Sharp I believe was a bluntest mis call.

I have no idea what's going on with Toews. He used to be so stoic and just got the job done. Now he's losing control of his emotions and making stupid penalties and biatching all the time. After the Hawks lose this series Quenneville should sit him down and threaten his captain status if he doesn't want to grow up.


As a Pens fan, the meltdown reminds me of the Pens against the Flyers last year.  As a team, they are consumed more by anything and everything other than actually playing the game.  Toews had an epic five or six minutes last night and it instantly reminded me of the Pens loosing their collective shiat last year.  Unless they have a closed door meeting and can manage a 180 (which with that team I think is possible), they are done.  They may win the next game, but I don't see them taking the series.  The Flyers had the Pens' number and it seems the same way with the Wings over the Hawks.

And I do remember a decent amount of Hawks fans during the regular season being a little apprehensive about the winning streak and saying that there would only be one way to go in the playoffs:  Down.  It's interesting to see how the team is handling a little adversity.
 
2013-05-24 11:56:58 AM

WhiskeySticks: SovietCanuckistan: When the captain of your team is losing his shiat constantly, it does not bode well for the team. I have played a couple hockey games over the years, and the young guns with skill and speed are not always the team that comes out on top.

Toews has been in the league 6 seasons, he's not that young any more.

Looking at the Oilers, this example is fitting.


6 seasons? Wow time flies, he still looks like a kid
 
2013-05-24 11:58:48 AM

puny: The butthurt from the Chicago fans I know on Facebook is more entertaining than that game was.


Blackhawk fans, like the Canucks fans from the past two years, need to learn that regular season records mean jack shiat in the playoffs.  The last 16 wins are the only ones that really matter.
 
2013-05-24 11:59:31 AM

vento: SlagginOff: great_tigers: legion_of_doo: I wouldn't count out the Hawks just yet.

Toews is just awesome intangibles. crying biatch.

dude commits penalties all the time and whines every time. That two handed check on Franzen by Sharp I believe was a bluntest mis call.

I have no idea what's going on with Toews. He used to be so stoic and just got the job done. Now he's losing control of his emotions and making stupid penalties and biatching all the time. After the Hawks lose this series Quenneville should sit him down and threaten his captain status if he doesn't want to grow up.

As a Pens fan, the meltdown reminds me of the Pens against the Flyers last year.  As a team, they are consumed more by anything and everything other than actually playing the game.  Toews had an epic five or six minutes last night and it instantly reminded me of the Pens loosing their collective shiat last year.  Unless they have a closed door meeting and can manage a 180 (which with that team I think is possible), they are done.  They may win the next game, but I don't see them taking the series.  The Flyers had the Pens' number and it seems the same way with the Wings over the Hawks.

And I do remember a decent amount of Hawks fans during the regular season being a little apprehensive about the winning streak and saying that there would only be one way to go in the playoffs:  Down.  It's interesting to see how the team is handling a little adversity.


Guh.  Don't type on a phone.  "Losing"...not "loosing"...
 
2013-05-24 12:01:53 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: puny: The butthurt from the Chicago fans I know on Facebook is more entertaining than that game was.

Blackhawk fans, like the Canucks fans from the past two years, need to learn that regular season records mean jack shiat in the playoffs.  The last 16 wins are the only ones that really matter.


To be fair, Blackhawk fans HAVE seen 16 playoff wins though.  Vancouver fans haven't.  They've only ever seen 15.  Twice :)
 
2013-05-24 12:08:32 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: puny: The butthurt from the Chicago fans I know on Facebook is more entertaining than that game was.

Blackhawk fans, like the Canucks fans from the past two years, need to learn that regular season records mean jack shiat in the playoffs.  The last 16 wins are the only ones that really matter.


I don't know which Hawks fans you've been talking to but as has been noted most of them were quite apprehensive about the regular season record, fearing that they'd hit their slump in the playoffs. Yes, there were a few boneheads prematurely claiming the cup halfway into the season, but that would be true of any fanbase.
 
2013-05-24 12:16:45 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: To be fair, Blackhawk fans HAVE seen 16 playoff wins though.  Vancouver fans haven't.  They've only ever seen 15.  Twice :)


There has to be someone who was alive for the 1915 Vancouver Millionaires, they won exactly 16 games to win the Cup that year (13-4 PCHA regular season, 3-0 over Ottawa for the Cup).
 
2013-05-24 12:26:39 PM
Will the Senators come out gooning it up or will they wait until the third period?
 
2013-05-24 12:34:54 PM

2wolves: Will the Senators come out gooning it up or will they wait until the third period?


Why would they do that when they have a 1-2 goal lead throughout the game?
 
2013-05-24 12:38:03 PM

2wolves: Will the Senators come out gooning it up or will they wait until the third period?


Depends on the score.

/Chris Neil is the wildcard - he's always gooning it up
 
2013-05-24 12:49:16 PM
Repeat from 2010?
 
2013-05-24 12:52:44 PM

bongmiester: winning the president's cup has become a jinx. i think only 6 teams have one both the president's and stanley cup in the last 25 years.


I'm not so much sure that it's a jinx, as much it is simple probability. For argument's sake, let's say that winning the #1 overall seed in the post season means that you're odds are at 70% of winning a given series. Pretty good probability. There's four rounds, so the chances of winning the cup are 24%. Wouldn't you know it, but 6 President's Trophy in the last 25 years is 24% of the time.

On the other hand, an 8 seed has won the cup once in the past 25 years (or a 4% chance). So let's give the 8 seed a 50/50 chance of winning a given series. The probability of an 8 seed winning the cup is 6%. Not too far off the mark.

Perhaps winning the President's Trophy AND winning the Stanley cup happens just about as often as one might expect.
 
2013-05-24 01:04:12 PM

SlagginOff: I don't know which Hawks fans you've been talking to


Just what I see on Fark.  Granted, I don't know if all of these comments are from Hawk fans, but there has been quite a bit of premature Hawkulation around here.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84227461#c84227461

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84237214#c84237214

http://www.fark.com/comments/7746698/84174269#c84174269

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84236877#c84236877

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84236728#c84236728
 
2013-05-24 01:04:42 PM

SlagginOff: After the Hawks lose this series Quenneville should sit him down and threaten his captain status if he doesn't want to grow up.


Someone may want to sit Quenneville down and have the same talk with him. He's never been the most mild mannered, calm bench boss, and he's certainly done his share of barking at the officials in this series, perhaps setting an example for his team. The entire team has spent every stoppage badgering the officials last night. Toews, Shaw, Bickell in particular. You don't see Datsyuk doing that, and he's wearing a goddamned A on his jersey! Anyways, back to my original point, you see the Hawks taking undisciplined penalties in each and every game, and you have to look at the coach and question his leadership. Look at the penalties. Kronwall gets 2 last night for dragging down Toews on a breakaway. Good hockey play. You see Toews, on the other hand, get rung up for a hooking penalty in his own offensive zone. Then there's the slashing, roughing, crosschecking calls that Chicago's earned in the series. This falls on the coach.

And then there was the line shuffling that Quenneville tried last night. I understand the tactic of trying to get something going, but
1) In games 1-4, Kane was the most dynamic player on the ice for Chicago. He was really making a lot of things happen and looked dangerous on ever shift. Putting him with Toews rendered him nearly invisible last night
2) If you believe, as a coach, that the ONLY reason that you are where you are prior to last night (down only 2 games to 1) is because of a few questionable calls and some bad bounces, then why change the lines up? Doesn't that fly directly in the face of what you've been saying all along about just needing the bounces to go your way?
 
2013-05-24 01:07:55 PM
 
2013-05-24 01:13:32 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: SlagginOff: I don't know which Hawks fans you've been talking to

Just what I see on Fark.  Granted, I don't know if all of these comments are from Hawk fans, but there has been quite a bit of premature Hawkulation around here.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84227461#c84227461

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84237214#c84237214

http://www.fark.com/comments/7746698/84174269#c84174269

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84236877#c84236877

http://www.fark.com/comments/7751208/84236728#c84236728


As I said, there's always going to be those fans in every fan base. I think if you really scoured through every thread you'd find a lot more fans that were keeping their mouths shut. I could be wrong though, I know it's my personal rule to never predict victory for the teams I root for, and maybe I'm just postulating that on other Hawks fans with no basis. I tend to err on the side of pessimism for almost everything in life.


Pituophis: SlagginOff: After the Hawks lose this series Quenneville should sit him down and threaten his captain status if he doesn't want to grow up.

Someone may want to sit Quenneville down and have the same talk with him. He's never been the most mild mannered, calm bench boss, and he's certainly done his share of barking at the officials in this series, perhaps setting an example for his team. The entire team has spent every stoppage badgering the officials last night. Toews, Shaw, Bickell in particular. You don't see Datsyuk doing that, and he's wearing a goddamned A on his jersey! Anyways, back to my original point, you see the Hawks taking undisciplined penalties in each and every game, and you have to look at the coach and question his leadership. Look at the penalties. Kronwall gets 2 last night for dragging down Toews on a breakaway. Good hockey play. You see Toews, on the other hand, get rung up for a hooking penalty in his own offensive zone. Then there's the slashing, roughing, crosschecking calls that Chicago's earned in the series. This falls on the coach.

And then there was the line shuffling that Quenneville tried last night. I understand the tactic of trying to get something going, but
1) In games 1-4, Kane was the most dynamic player on the ice for Chicago. He was really making a lot of things happen and looked dangerous on ever shift. Putting him with Toews rendered him nearly invisible last night
2) If you believe, as a coach, that the ONLY reason that you are where you are prior to last night (down only 2 games to 1) is because of a few questionable calls and some bad bounces, then why change the lines up? Doesn't that fly directly in the face of what you've been saying all along about just needing the bounces to go your way?


Yeah, I'm not too thrilled with Quenneville's coaching in this series either. The players carried him during the regular season but 3 straight disappointments in the playoffs should have the organization questioning his role. Getting knocked out by your biggest rival who barely made the playoffs isn't helping him either.
 
2013-05-24 01:14:31 PM

Electromax: Can't say they aren't earning it. Don't know what's up with Toews' head game but the Hawks haven't gotten a lucky bounce on any of those post-hitters either. I hate that *DING* sound followed by the puck flying off towards the corner...


I just want to say that I CALLED IT BACK ON FEBRUARY 26. The Hawks used up their luck quotient during the regular season and now they're not getting the bounces that are absolutely crucial for Playoff success.
 
2013-05-24 01:19:43 PM

Ishkur: Electromax: Can't say they aren't earning it. Don't know what's up with Toews' head game but the Hawks haven't gotten a lucky bounce on any of those post-hitters either. I hate that *DING* sound followed by the puck flying off towards the corner...

I just want to say that I CALLED IT BACK ON FEBRUARY 26. The Hawks used up their luck quotient during the regular season and now they're not getting the bounces that are absolutely crucial for Playoff success.


Congrats on picking a side in something that has a 50/50 chance of happening.
 
2013-05-24 01:23:00 PM

Pituophis: Reports in Russia saying that Pavel Datsyuk will announce at the end of the season that he will sign with Ak Bars Kazan in the KHL to play starting in 2014.


FARK THAT!
 
2013-05-24 01:24:41 PM

grokca: 3-2 lead is on the verge of being eliminated?


3-1.  And any time the other team has 3 games on you, yes, you are on the verge.

/except baby Pens and Bruins
//Ha ha, Providence
 
2013-05-24 01:45:07 PM
I assumed subby was booking Sharks in seven.

/ Sharks in seven
// book it
/// done
 
2013-05-24 01:54:40 PM

vonmatrices: This headline is all wrong.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x239]


PRESUMED, not Reigning. The Blackhawks had that awesome year, many sportswriters predicted them for the Cup.

/Go Sens!
//Aw Jell-O
 
2013-05-24 01:56:48 PM

Techhell: vonmatrices: This headline is all wrong.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x239]

PRESUMED, not Reigning. The Blackhawks had that awesome year, many sportswriters predicted them for the Cup.

/Go Sens!
//Aw Jell-O


never mind, I see that the mod's put in the presumed to clarify the headline. My point would be quite similar (that the sportswriters had all but given the Blackhawks the cup already), but yeah.
 
2013-05-24 02:09:14 PM

WhiskeySticks: Ishkur: Electromax: Can't say they aren't earning it. Don't know what's up with Toews' head game but the Hawks haven't gotten a lucky bounce on any of those post-hitters either. I hate that *DING* sound followed by the puck flying off towards the corner...

I just want to say that I CALLED IT BACK ON FEBRUARY 26. The Hawks used up their luck quotient during the regular season and now they're not getting the bounces that are absolutely crucial for Playoff success.

Congrats on picking a side in something that has a 50/50 chance of happening.


I'm sure if he had been wrong he would have been just as quick to point out his prediction. Yep, Totally.

It's just like when some sportswriter picks a last place team to win the division (every year there's somebody somewhere that picks the Royals to win the AL Central, for example, and it could work out this year).  If you're wrong, nobody even remembers your stupid prediction, and if you're right, you look like a genius.
 
2013-05-24 02:31:06 PM

WhiskeySticks: Congrats on picking a side in something that has a 50/50 chance of happening.


Actually, closer to 87%. I never guess -- I play the odds.
 
2013-05-24 02:36:34 PM

SlagginOff: I'm sure if he had been wrong he would have been just as quick to point out his prediction. Yep, Totally.


Only if it was pertinent. If this thread didn't exist I never would have mentioned it at all. I'm usually not around in the evenings so I don't participate in Fark gameday threads, but I can see that they are very lively.

But someone had to point out that the Hawks have been unlucky, so I'm just pointing out that to us probability statisticians, this was not unusual but expected.

Similarly, if the Hawks turn it around and with three straight against Detroit, there's a sizable chance that they could do that, too. If a thread is greenlit about it, I might point it out, but again, only when pertinent. It's not likely to happen.
 
kab
2013-05-24 02:37:12 PM
Chicago out?  Good.

Now someone get rid of the Pens, and I really won't care what else happens.
 
2013-05-24 02:37:24 PM

Pituophis: Reports in Russia saying that Pavel Datsyuk will announce at the end of the season that he will sign with Ak Bars Kazan in the KHL to play starting in 2014.


Yeah, he'll be back for one more year, at least... Pavel is slowing down a bit lately, too - no knock on his contribution to the team, but I think the grind is getting to him, and he'd prefer to finish up in his homeland. He's turning 35 this year....playing on the Ak Bars might be easier on him at this point in his life.

Some of the youngsters on the team will at least be able to absorb some Datsyukian magic, at least.

itsalwayssunnyindetroit.com
 
2013-05-24 02:45:01 PM
Datsyuk's agent on Ak Bars Kazan rumors: "They're bullsh*t."

Shocking that a Russian sports journalism outfit would play fast and loose with the facts, I know. They've got such a fine history of integrity and fact-based reportage.
 
2013-05-24 02:46:22 PM
Not the presumed Champs, they just saved hockey!
 
2013-05-24 03:03:38 PM

sigdiamond2000: Datsyuk's agent on Ak Bars Kazan rumors: "They're bullsh*t."

Shocking that a Russian sports journalism outfit would play fast and loose with the facts, I know. They've got such a fine history of integrity and fact-based reportage.


Yes, not shocking that Russian fans would love to see Datsyuk play there. And then there were all sorts of rumors where Datsyuk would go during the lockout, and he ended up for CSKA Moscow, which was kind of funny as well.

He certainly shows up for Russia, but he seems to enjoy his own thing in the NHL.  I think he likes playing on the same team as Zetterberg.  He doesn't want/need the spotlight (or Anna Kournikova) like Fedorov did.  He's just a quiet little wizard out there.

Of course, if he wanted to go, then good for him. You couldn't ask for more out of a player than what Datsyuk brings to the game.
 
2013-05-24 03:50:06 PM
Penguins vs Red Wings part tres.  Book it.

Pity though, Red Wings will be moving to the east and we won't be able to face them in the finals ever again.  Let's do it now while we still can!
 
2013-05-24 03:51:21 PM

legion_of_doo: Of course, if he wanted to go, then good for him. You couldn't ask for more out of a player than what Datsyuk brings to the game.


He hasn't exactly been quiet about wanting to go back and finish his career in Russia. Given his age and the duration of his contract, all signs point to him playing in Russia in 2014.
 
2013-05-24 03:58:03 PM
Could apply to the Rags too - quite a few hockey pundits were listing them as the favorite last summer after they signed Nash.

Boston will boot them out in Game 5.
 
2013-05-24 04:46:54 PM

Pituophis: Reports in Russia saying that Pavel Datsyuk will announce at the end of the season that he will sign with Ak Bars Kazan in the KHL to play starting in 2014.



Personally, I hope the Wings' Russian talent pipeline is forever scuttled, but I have my doubts that will ever happen. I think the Hawks may regroup to win game 5 at home, but this team looks lost out there.

/they weren't exactly pounding teams the last month of the season, relying heavily on the OT skills competition to win
//in hockey, a 3-1 hole isn't completely insurmountable, but I have serious doubts they can get it done
///on record saying the Hawks should save some goals (from when they were pounding teams early in the season) for later
////image is hot, like the ghost pepper wings at Harry Caray's
 
2013-05-24 04:48:36 PM
will this image work?
img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-05-24 07:46:40 PM

Moleculo: Uh, the Kings are the reigning champs...


And I thought the Pens were the presumptive favorites
 
2013-05-24 08:30:37 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: Bruins vs. Wings in the final.

Book it.  Done.

/Bruins in 5


Bruins have beat the Pens once in the past two years.  Try again.
 
2013-05-25 12:15:40 AM

flak attack: RumsfeldsReplacement: Bruins vs. Wings in the final.

Book it.  Done.

/Bruins in 5

Bruins have beat the Pens once in the past two years.  Try again.


The Wings lost every regular season game to the Hawks this year.

Although I tend to agree the Pens are too strong to be taken out in the eastern conference.
 
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