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2013-05-24 02:01:28 PM

lilplatinum: vygramul: Germany's used to be any ancestry, but now they added a language and culture requirement. I'd have to brush up to claim it.

You also would have had to claim it by the age of 23 were you so inclined (unless you fall under some exception).


iirc, I fell under an exception, but I'm not likely to try and claim it now that Palin will never be president.
 
2013-05-24 02:20:28 PM

vygramul: lilplatinum: vygramul: Germany's used to be any ancestry, but now they added a language and culture requirement. I'd have to brush up to claim it.

You also would have had to claim it by the age of 23 were you so inclined (unless you fall under some exception).

iirc, I fell under an exception, but I'm not likely to try and claim it now that Palin will never be president.


Yeah I was over there in the dark ages and was looking into how to get a Tscherman passport, but alas they would have made me give up my Blue one, and as embarassing as our country can be it is kind of handy to have a US passport at times... (except when you make too much abroad and our cocksucker government decides to double tax us).
 
2013-05-24 02:25:57 PM
I did nazi this coming
 
2013-05-24 02:35:23 PM

Suede head: I admire Germany and wish I were German.


I don't wish I was German, but I do admire Germany, love the German people, and wish I could go back and live in Germany. I lived there as a child, in a tiny village near Fulda, and I had an idyllic childhood there. I think there was one person I ever met in the country whom I didn't like and that was our landlord. He always complained about the noise I made (I was a little kid!) and wouldn't let me play in his backyard. His wife was lovely and sweet to me, though, as was everyone else I ever met.

Germany should re-think the austerity policy, especially given the fact that the study it was based on has been proven false, but other than that, they're awesome.
 
2013-05-24 02:38:25 PM

vygramul: It's always funny when you see American tourists eating at a KFC or McDonald's. It's like, really? You're not going to try a Pizza Margherita while you're in Naples? Not going to go to the cafe for pastries and gelato? You're going to eat THERE?


I always try to do a quick stop at a Mickey D's when I'm abroad. McDonalds is so ubiquitous but each country serves very different things - I find it a fun and cute way to spot cultural differences on the cheap. In Italy, burgers are served on ciabatta rolls. In Canada, they serve poutine. In Japan, they serve cheese katsu sandwiches and fries you can season yourself. And of course beer is served in England and Germany. Also, England has an awesome curry dipping sauce. Hell, I went to a McDonalds down south and there were some notable menu differences.

Maybe I'm weird but I just find it intriguing.
 
2013-05-24 02:41:11 PM

silvervial: Suede head: I admire Germany and wish I were German.

I don't wish I was German, but I do admire Germany, love the German people, and wish I could go back and live in Germany. I lived there as a child, in a tiny village near Fulda, and I had an idyllic childhood there. I think there was one person I ever met in the country whom I didn't like and that was our landlord. He always complained about the noise I made (I was a little kid!) and wouldn't let me play in his backyard. His wife was lovely and sweet to me, though, as was everyone else I ever met.

Germany should re-think the austerity policy, especially given the fact that the study it was based on has been proven false, but other than that, they're awesome.


only problem i had with my landlord is that when i'd knock on the door to give them my rent money, all the family was in their underwear. i know that's not uncommon, especially on hot days. but they were your typical middle-aged unattractive, overweight germans. only plus was sometimes their daughter was home...she wasn't the best looking, but definitely not ugly...most likely underage at the time, though, so i didn't try anything.
 
2013-05-24 02:41:23 PM

bungle_jr: Hetfield: bungle_jr: i was not familiar with saturn...we had Media Markt as a best buy equivilant.

Media Markt and Saturn belong to the same company.

ah ha! did not know that.

lilplatinum: bungle_jr: i was fine with it the "old" way...yes i did have to plan better, being accustomed to america's 24-hour lifestyle, but i have fond memories of going to stores before noon with my dad when i was a kid, because these stores closed at noon on saturdays.

something about the stores closing early and being closed on sundays added to my enjoyment of germany. showed something about their priorities. saturday afternoons and sundays were better spent enjoying things besides shopping.

All well and good if you are a traditional family.   If you are a single guy who happens to work during the relatively short weekday hours, it is not fun having to do all of your shopping on a Saturday morning.

Added to the fact that bars didn't close, and all my farking german friends would want to meet up at the bar at midnight meant the likelihood of actuallly waking up in time to do the shopping was pretty low.

I ate a lot of delivery.

There was always a longstanding argument about the pros and cons of Sunday shopping in Germany.  They claimed it is their stand against rampant commercialism.  I tended to take the view that if the irresistible siren call of shopping made it impossible for you to do anything else unless the stores were forcibly closed, the problem is with the consumer rather than the system.

all good points. like i said, i did have to make constant adjustments. it did help for convenience and basic food items that we had a 24 hour shopette on base.


The reason that they haven't conformed to having stores open on Saturday afternoons and Sundays is for the employees of those companies. Working as a cashier is still a career in Germany and they do deserve time off.
It used to be that during the week stores would close between 6 and 7 and Thursdays they would stay open a little longer until 8 to appease the working crowd that can't make it to the store. Saturdays they would only be open once a month. Then the laws slowly started changing and now they are open much later.

/my mother was a cashier and is now a manager for an ALDI store.
 
2013-05-24 02:44:05 PM

Lollipop165: vygramul: It's always funny when you see American tourists eating at a KFC or McDonald's. It's like, really? You're not going to try a Pizza Margherita while you're in Naples? Not going to go to the cafe for pastries and gelato? You're going to eat THERE?

I always try to do a quick stop at a Mickey D's when I'm abroad. McDonalds is so ubiquitous but each country serves very different things - I find it a fun and cute way to spot cultural differences on the cheap. In Italy, burgers are served on ciabatta rolls. In Canada, they serve poutine. In Japan, they serve cheese katsu sandwiches and fries you can season yourself. And of course beer is served in England and Germany. Also, England has an awesome curry dipping sauce. Hell, I went to a McDonalds down south and there were some notable menu differences.

Maybe I'm weird but I just find it intriguing.


in my nearly 4.5 years in germany, and having gone to mcdonalds far too many times, not once did i ever see anyone actually order beer.
 
2013-05-24 02:47:26 PM

ChemOpsFTW: bungle_jr: Hetfield: bungle_jr: i was not familiar with saturn...we had Media Markt as a best buy equivilant.

Media Markt and Saturn belong to the same company.

ah ha! did not know that.

lilplatinum: bungle_jr: i was fine with it the "old" way...yes i did have to plan better, being accustomed to america's 24-hour lifestyle, but i have fond memories of going to stores before noon with my dad when i was a kid, because these stores closed at noon on saturdays.

something about the stores closing early and being closed on sundays added to my enjoyment of germany. showed something about their priorities. saturday afternoons and sundays were better spent enjoying things besides shopping.

All well and good if you are a traditional family.   If you are a single guy who happens to work during the relatively short weekday hours, it is not fun having to do all of your shopping on a Saturday morning.

Added to the fact that bars didn't close, and all my farking german friends would want to meet up at the bar at midnight meant the likelihood of actuallly waking up in time to do the shopping was pretty low.

I ate a lot of delivery.

There was always a longstanding argument about the pros and cons of Sunday shopping in Germany.  They claimed it is their stand against rampant commercialism.  I tended to take the view that if the irresistible siren call of shopping made it impossible for you to do anything else unless the stores were forcibly closed, the problem is with the consumer rather than the system.

all good points. like i said, i did have to make constant adjustments. it did help for convenience and basic food items that we had a 24 hour shopette on base.

The reason that they haven't conformed to having stores open on Saturday afternoons and Sundays is for the employees of those companies. Working as a cashier is still a career in Germany and they do deserve time off.
It used to be that during the week stores would close between 6 and 7 and Thursdays they would stay o ...


and cashiers get to sit down! all my years at walmart and other retail stores, if i was at a cashier stand, i thought "why must i STAND here in one spot for hours, causing foot, leg, and back pain...why would it be considered lazy to sit?"

then i got to germany and was pleasantly surprised to see cashiers SEATED! and of course aldi here in the usa provides cashiers with seats
 
2013-05-24 02:51:25 PM

Onkel Buck: Spent most of my 20's stationed in Germany. I approve of the ranking.


It's interesting that anyone who ever spent any time in Germany, and actually experienced Germany and not just the base they were stationed at, love the fark out of the place. You can't even say that about France or Italy, but Germany, Ja!
 
2013-05-24 02:53:07 PM

ChemOpsFTW: The reason that they haven't conformed to having stores open on Saturday afternoons and Sundays is for the employees of those companies. Working as a cashier is still a career in Germany and they do deserve time off


This doesn't make any sense, plenty of other businesses are open on Saturdays and Sundays - those employees still get time off, just not the weekends off.

This argument about protecting cashiers is bizzare, why should they get legal protection that gives them weekends off but Cops, Firemen, Doctors, Cashiers who work at tourist joints, Deutsche Bahn employees, bartenders, hookers, gas station cashiers, pilots, airport employees, etc. etc. etc.

Outdated church law is outdated.
 
2013-05-24 02:53:45 PM

silvervial: Onkel Buck: Spent most of my 20's stationed in Germany. I approve of the ranking.

It's interesting that anyone who ever spent any time in Germany, and actually experienced Germany and not just the base they were stationed at, love the fark out of the place. You can't even say that about France or Italy, but Germany, Ja!


yep...it's a fascinating phenomenon
 
2013-05-24 03:01:41 PM

bungle_jr: silvervial: Onkel Buck: Spent most of my 20's stationed in Germany. I approve of the ranking.

It's interesting that anyone who ever spent any time in Germany, and actually experienced Germany and not just the base they were stationed at, love the fark out of the place. You can't even say that about France or Italy, but Germany, Ja!

yep...it's a fascinating phenomenon


You know some older folks in the military if you know anyone who was stationed in France, I think they closed down all foreign military bases in 1967.
 
2013-05-24 03:07:33 PM

silvervial: Onkel Buck: Spent most of my 20's stationed in Germany. I approve of the ranking.

It's interesting that anyone who ever spent any time in Germany, and actually experienced Germany and not just the base they were stationed at, love the fark out of the place. You can't even say that about France or Italy, but Germany, Ja!


I re-enlisted just so I could go back for another tour. I was in Kitizigen and Schweinfurt the first time and Hanau the second time, all the bases I was at have since been closed or are closing. I spent a lot of time with my German girlfriends family the second tour. I loved having Christmas at her house. Her opa was a baker and her onkel was a butcher, (not single candlestick maker in the whole family though) and the things they would make for the holidays were absolutley delicious! Then there is Silvester and Fasching! There was always a party going on! As a 20 something year old kid how could you not enjoy yourself! Did a lot weekend road trips to go see stuff too. Stopped at gasthaus someplace on the way back from a trip one night to get something to eat. The housefrau told us we were the first Americans that had been there since the war. We found it hard to believe but we went a long with it. Well she ended up getting us hammered on some homemade brandy and we wouldnt ya know we had to stay the night. so she waived the bill for the meal and the drinks and just charged us for a room which was her plan all along I assume. Yah I had a pretty good time. I'm glad I spent my 20s there rather than at a college campus. I thought Paris was pretty cool, but Berlin and Amsterdam are probably my two favorite European cities.
 
2013-05-24 03:20:41 PM

Onkel Buck: silvervial: Onkel Buck: Spent most of my 20's stationed in Germany. I approve of the ranking.

It's interesting that anyone who ever spent any time in Germany, and actually experienced Germany and not just the base they were stationed at, love the fark out of the place. You can't even say that about France or Italy, but Germany, Ja!

I re-enlisted just so I could go back for another tour. I was in Kitizigen and Schweinfurt the first time and Hanau the second time, all the bases I was at have since been closed or are closing. I spent a lot of time with my German girlfriends family the second tour. I loved having Christmas at her house. Her opa was a baker and her onkel was a butcher, (not single candlestick maker in the whole family though) and the things they would make for the holidays were absolutley delicious! Then there is Silvester and Fasching! There was always a party going on! As a 20 something year old kid how could you not enjoy yourself! Did a lot weekend road trips to go see stuff too. Stopped at gasthaus someplace on the way back from a trip one night to get something to eat. The housefrau told us we were the first Americans that had been there since the war. We found it hard to believe but we went a long with it. Well she ended up getting us hammered on some homemade brandy and we wouldnt ya know we had to stay the night. so she waived the bill for the meal and the drinks and just charged us for a room which was her plan all along I assume. Yah I had a pretty good time. I'm glad I spent my 20s there rather than at a college campus. I thought Paris was pretty cool, but Berlin and Amsterdam are probably my two favorite European cities.


every year around late-november and into december i get seriously "home"sick for germany. i mean, they basically invented christmas, or at least many of the traditions we know and love. they really get into the spirit of that holiday, and the christkindl markts are amazing!
 
2013-05-24 03:23:06 PM
Nothing like the hangover you get from drinking too much cheap red wine and rum for the fourth year in the row after promising "no more gluehwein ever again" yet another time..
 
2013-05-24 03:32:58 PM

Lyonid: Suede head: I admire Germany and wish I were German.

Don't give up hope.  Third time's a charm.


But 4th time is the reich one.
 
2013-05-24 03:35:18 PM
Ah, yes, Christmastime in Germany! What a spectacular time it was, the best time of the whole year. The entire country is dressed up like Christmas Wonderland, at least it seemed that way to me as a kid. I really, really missed that when we came back to America. Christmas was never the same after having experienced it in Germany. Sigh.
 
2013-05-24 03:40:50 PM

silvervial: Ah, yes, Christmastime in Germany! What a spectacular time it was, the best time of the whole year. The entire country is dressed up like Christmas Wonderland, at least it seemed that way to me as a kid. I really, really missed that when we came back to America. Christmas was never the same after having experienced it in Germany. Sigh.


You can blame it on the socialist war on Christmas here.
 
2013-05-24 03:48:24 PM
 vygramul

Congrats on graduating!  I wish it weren't such a rainy day for you and yours, but, hey, it's the event that matters, not the weather.  I've heard Colbert was great.

You've been favorited.  However, as a graduate of The University of Virginia (JMU...we pre-game like you party), I've been forced to change your text highlight to "Blue-3," the closest I could get to Duke purple.  I'm sure you understand.

Also, if you dig groceries/cooking, you probably already know about The Market (downtown, near the ABC store).  The butcher there is insane.  I challenge you to ask for a cut of meat he doesn't carry.
 
2013-05-24 04:06:01 PM
I moved from Austin to Germany 5 years ago. I was only supposed to here for two if that tells you anything. I actually have no urge to go back to the States. Sure I miss it sometimes but I love living here. I enjoy the lifestyle and love the culture. I also love that you can get to most countries in Europe in just about no time. Amsterdam and Prague are my favorite cities. Paris is overrated but the south of France is great. Budapest is a nice city....nicer than Paris in my opinion. Berlin is cool and London is fun as all get out.  Taking off to Barcelona for my first trip to Spain in a few weeks. Can't farking wait.
 
2013-05-24 04:11:14 PM

m053486: vygramul

Congrats on graduating!  I wish it weren't such a rainy day for you and yours, but, hey, it's the event that matters, not the weather.  I've heard Colbert was great.

You've been favorited.  However, as a graduate of The University of Virginia (JMU...we pre-game like you party), I've been forced to change your text highlight to "Blue-3," the closest I could get to Duke purple.  I'm sure you understand.

Also, if you dig groceries/cooking, you probably already know about The Market (downtown, near the ABC store).  The butcher there is insane.  I challenge you to ask for a cut of meat he doesn't carry.


Lol - Duke Purple. I'm actually thinking of applying to Duke to get my history Ph.D. I live behind Barracks Shopping Center, so Downtown is really on the other side of the 'ville from me. I'll have to check it out next time I make a Spudnuts run.
 
2013-05-24 04:13:02 PM

vygramul: brantgoose: vygramul: Suede head: I admire Germany and wish I were German.

I can actually claim German citizenship. (And Lithuanian. And possibly Polish.)

The French used to have "blood" or patrimony citizenship, which meant that those with French ancestors could claim it. I believe there was a cut-off, so that us French Canadians could not claim citizenship unless the connection with the old country was recent.They have switched to a less racial and more abstract basis of citizenship, like the American model.

Germany's used to be any ancestry, but now they added a language and culture requirement. I'd have to brush up to claim it.

Lithuania additionally requires you worked towards their independence, which I did in a documentable manner.

I don't know Poland's requirement. I may or may not qualify. I don't speak Polish at all.


I believe Germany has compulsory military service...May want to think that one through.

I'm actually dual US/UK citizen.  Just got UK recently.

Born and raised in US, to a British Mother.  Used to be only Fathers could pass on citizenship, but a few years back, they changed it cause sexism and all.

Probably one of the best things I could do, considering it's all benefit for me.
 
2013-05-24 04:15:24 PM

tripleseven: I believe Germany has compulsory military service...May want to think that one through.


Not since July 2011.. Even then, there were ways to weasel out of it if you were a dual citizenship holder and you could take non military alternatives.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/bundeswehr-wehrpflicht-sol l- zum-1-juli-ausgesetzt-werden-1577622.html
 
2013-05-24 04:18:55 PM

lilplatinum: tripleseven: I believe Germany has compulsory military service...May want to think that one through.

Not since July 2011.. Even then, there were ways to weasel out of it if you were a dual citizenship holder and you could take non military alternatives.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/bundeswehr-wehrpflicht-sol l- zum-1-juli-ausgesetzt-werden-1577622.html


Hmmm, wonder if my fiancée could get German citizenship.  Her dad was German.  I could of course just apply for her UK when we get married.
 
2013-05-24 04:24:37 PM

tripleseven: Hmmm, wonder if my fiancée could get German citizenship.  Her dad was German.  I could of course just apply for her UK when we get married.


Well it never would have effected her anyway since it wasn't for men.  I'm not sure, I think you have to apply for citizenship if your parent is German before 23 but I could be wrong.   Probably worth looking into, can never hurt for her having a Schengen passport..  Although you won't be able to parlay that into one of your own without giving up your others.
 
2013-05-24 04:31:32 PM

lmxloco: I will now tell you a German joke. "A sausage maker buys a box of cereal."

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Some German Comic I saw years ago:

First, I want you to know that not all Germans are methodical and precise.

Joke number one!

My father is from Hamburg and my mother is from Frankfurt, so I am the cross between a Hamburger and a Frankfurter.

:: a smattering polite but nervous laughter ::

That joke sucks in German,


/ the rest of his act was hilarious, but I only remember his painfully lame opener
 
2013-05-24 04:34:53 PM

lilplatinum: tripleseven: Hmmm, wonder if my fiancée could get German citizenship.  Her dad was German.  I could of course just apply for her UK when we get married.

Well it never would have effected her anyway since it wasn't for men.  I'm not sure, I think you have to apply for citizenship if your parent is German before 23 but I could be wrong.   Probably worth looking into, can never hurt for her having a Schengen passport..  Although you won't be able to parlay that into one of your own without giving up your others.


I already have a US and a UK, no need for more.
 
2013-05-24 04:39:33 PM

tripleseven: I believe Germany has compulsory military service...May want to think that one through.

I'm actually dual US/UK citizen.  Just got UK recently.

Born and raised in US, to a British Mother.  Used to be only Fathers could pass on citizenship, but a few years back, they changed it cause sexism and all.

Probably one of the best things I could do, considering it's all benefit for me.


I'm too old for military service.

I considered getting a passport, especially during the brief time EU passports had the pass-through line at airport security over there. But I worked for an agency where they might well have asked me to surrender dual citizenships, and so long as I hadn't claimed them, they would likely not bother me about it.
 
2013-05-24 05:12:57 PM

Rapmaster2000: They say that the Germans always make good stuff, but that's because they have never seen German pornography.


We have some German equipment where I work according to our maintenance guys the stuff is over engineered junk. Availability is very poor.
 
2013-05-24 05:39:35 PM

bungle_jr: lilplatinum: bungle_jr: funny thing is, aside from having to learn some of the language to really enjoy the experience, i did NOT have culture shock going over there...but going back home to hope, arkansas, on leave, i had MAJOR culture shock and could not wait to get back "home" to germany!

Try living up north far away from the Americans - It'll come.

/also had reverse culture shock
//had i moved somewhere other than Brooklyn where I actually had to drive, it probably would have been worse.

the worst part of living around kaiserslautern was all the americans

but, because of the huge k-town american population, i didn't have to learn the whole language to get by...however, because of the huge k-town american population, i was not motivated enough to learn the whole language.

good and bad on that part. it was easy to communicate most places. but i really should have learned the language anyway. i did try...i can read certain fairly simple things (menu/food labels, simple instructions, etc) in german. and the news that would come on the top of every hour on the radio stations, i could pick up on key points since they spoke clearly and simply, and newsreaders reading headlines often do in any language.

i was always really pissed off at the americans who EXPECTED the locals to speak english, and they had not interest in picking up on any german words/phrases...even had a dumbarse friend who got mad at the lack of english speaking in certain places.

one time i was ordering at mcdonalds (yes, i know...but since i lived there, eating some american fast food wasn't a big deal...and it tasted a little different than stateside mcd) in german...the guy spoke back to me in english. i said "i'm trying to practice my german"...he said "i'm trying to practice my english". touche!


Was stationed in Bamberg (US Army) in the '70s (yes, I'm old); came back in the big-hair '80s, did Ramstein, Spangdahlem (DoD), and for some reason ended up in Bavaria.  I didn't really learn any German until I really had to.  The funniest thing: I catch the kids at work "mocking" my accent, but they still want me to translate modern slang.  I advise them to read the "Urban Dictionary", and to get off my lawn.
 
2013-05-24 05:49:54 PM
I still haven't forgiven them for this.

i4.ytimg.com
 
2013-05-24 06:39:30 PM
Germany was top?  Really?

Deutchland über alles?
 
2013-05-24 11:31:43 PM
arbeit macht frei?
 
2013-05-25 03:53:23 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Popular != good.

You know who else was popular?


That's right: Obama.
 
2013-05-25 04:06:16 AM

Lollipop165: vygramul: It's always funny when you see American tourists eating at a KFC or McDonald's. It's like, really? You're not going to try a Pizza Margherita while you're in Naples? Not going to go to the cafe for pastries and gelato? You're going to eat THERE?

I always try to do a quick stop at a Mickey D's when I'm abroad. McDonalds is so ubiquitous but each country serves very different things - I find it a fun and cute way to spot cultural differences on the cheap. In Italy, burgers are served on ciabatta rolls. In Canada, they serve poutine. In Japan, they serve cheese katsu sandwiches and fries you can season yourself. And of course beer is served in England and Germany. Also, England has an awesome curry dipping sauce. Hell, I went to a McDonalds down south and there were some notable menu differences.

Maybe I'm weird but I just find it intriguing.


I do think it's funny when I go to a McDonald's in the center of Moscow how packed full of tourists it is. Try  some local food,dammit!

/i've lived here long enough that I'm allowed to go to McDonald's
 
2013-05-25 06:17:52 AM
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