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(NHL)   Playoff Hockey Thread #26: Super Pens v. Pesky Sens... Have the Pens finally learned to play like they mean it? Will they be first into the next round? Has Boo Alfredsson played his last home game? Answers? Soon... Really soon @ 7:30E   (nhl.com) divider line 471
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2013-05-24 08:01:07 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Donnchadha: cameroncrazy1984: I don't understand how that's allowable (redirecting with your skate) and kicking isn't.

The impetus towards the goal was not a kicking motion towards the net, however trying to angle a deflection (without a real "kick") would also be disallowed.

Well it clearly looks like he angles his skate to redirect the puck. If that's the case then shouldn't the goal have been disallowed?


A kicking motion is what is illegal
 
2013-05-24 08:01:11 PM

Rev.K: cameroncrazy1984: Except he did redirect the puck towards the goal. Because it went into the goal.

I think he has the rule wrong.

Redirects have been okay for a long time. And you can see on that play that Morrow was clearly trying to get the puck with his skate, but trying his damndest not to thrash and kick at it.


If you deliberately turn your skate to redirect the puck in a "not really a kick, but essentially a kick" motion, you might have that one disallowed -- but it has to be really obvious
 
2013-05-24 08:01:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: 100% kicked in.


...or not. I really, really don't like to get into the anti-ref paranoia, but it's really starting to look like the league wants the Pens to move on. Half the penalties called against the Sens are marginal at best (the proverbial 52 in a 50 zone), the Pens aren't being called as often for the same things, Crosby getting the benefit of the doubt in the face off circle quite a bit, and then that goal tonight...

I dunno. The ref's aren't the reason that the Pens are up 3-1, but they sure aren't keeping the playing field level in this series.

/Go Sens!
//It's gravy being in the playoffs at all after this year, but it'd be nice to go out losing to JUST the Pens, not the league as well.
 
2013-05-24 08:02:02 PM

Rev.K: The reason kicks aren't allowed:

Clint Malarchuk.


Also, hockey is not soccer.


I'd be fine with allowing "kicking motion" if the blade is on the ice. Removes the ambiguity of the current rule, prevents flyin' blades of steel..
 
2013-05-24 08:02:14 PM

Inchoate: Hi thread!

I'm recovering from surgery and high on more oxycodone than a teabagger talk show host. ...aww yeah?

Pens lookin' good. Let's put this thing away!


Anything serious (the surgery)?  Hope that recovery goes fairly quickly & that the drugs are plentiful...
 
2013-05-24 08:04:06 PM

costermonger: Rev.K: The reason kicks aren't allowed:

Clint Malarchuk.


Also, hockey is not soccer.

I'd be fine with allowing "kicking motion" if the blade is on the ice. Removes the ambiguity of the current rule, prevents flyin' blades of steel..


*Snink snik*  BLADES OF STEEL
 
2013-05-24 08:05:25 PM
OMG, they called a penalty on Crosby!
 
2013-05-24 08:05:31 PM

Techhell: cameroncrazy1984: 100% kicked in.

...or not. I really, really don't like to get into the anti-ref paranoia, but it's really starting to look like the league wants the Pens to move on. Half the penalties called against the Sens are marginal at best (the proverbial 52 in a 50 zone), the Pens aren't being called as often for the same things, Crosby getting the benefit of the doubt in the face off circle quite a bit, and then that goal tonight...

I dunno. The ref's aren't the reason that the Pens are up 3-1, but they sure aren't keeping the playing field level in this series.

/Go Sens!
//It's gravy being in the playoffs at all after this year, but it'd be nice to go out losing to JUST the Pens, not the league as well.




Agree with this. Officiating hasn't been good, but it hasn't been series changing. I just feel bad for Anderson. He's been hung out to dry.
 
2013-05-24 08:05:33 PM
See, that look right there is why a lot of people hate Crosby. That "What, me do wrong?" look.
 
2013-05-24 08:05:36 PM
wtf
 
2013-05-24 08:05:50 PM

Techhell: cameroncrazy1984: 100% kicked in.

...or not. I really, really don't like to get into the anti-ref paranoia, but it's really starting to look like the league wants the Pens to move on. Half the penalties called against the Sens are marginal at best (the proverbial 52 in a 50 zone), the Pens aren't being called as often for the same things, Crosby getting the benefit of the doubt in the face off circle quite a bit, and then that goal tonight...

I dunno. The ref's aren't the reason that the Pens are up 3-1, but they sure aren't keeping the playing field level in this series.

/Go Sens!
//It's gravy being in the playoffs at all after this year, but it'd be nice to go out losing to JUST the Pens, not the league as well.


So uh... After that call, still believe that?
 
2013-05-24 08:06:02 PM
That's a penalty? lol
 
2013-05-24 08:06:05 PM
Sens no longer get to complain about the refs for this game
 
2013-05-24 08:06:09 PM
I like Kennedy better than Morrow (who I also like) so Im glad they are plaing him now.

Tyler Kennedy does a lot of good things IMHO and doesnt get much fanfare
 
2013-05-24 08:06:14 PM
Lol @ CBC taking chunks out of Kerry Fraser.
 
2013-05-24 08:06:18 PM
Hah that ref is gonna wind up in a ditch.  Nobody penalizes the Crosby!
 
2013-05-24 08:06:28 PM

cameroncrazy1984: See, that look right there is why a lot of people hate Crosby. That "What, me do wrong?" look.


well, since he did no wrong...
 
2013-05-24 08:06:29 PM
Crosby looks he's had a facial hair implant, like Wayne Rooney got hair plugs.

And I hate the Pens but that was a BS call.  Big time
 
2013-05-24 08:07:12 PM

cameroncrazy1984: See, that look right there is why a lot of people hate Crosby. That "What, me do wrong?" look.


In fairness, it looks like the ref who called it is having second thoughts about calling the goal a good goal, and is trying to make up for a bad call. That's about the only reason I can see why that was called a penalty.
 
2013-05-24 08:07:28 PM

Leader O'Cola: cameroncrazy1984: See, that look right there is why a lot of people hate Crosby. That "What, me do wrong?" look.

well, since he did no wrong...


On further review, it was a ticky-tack call. But the look is still dumb.
 
2013-05-24 08:07:33 PM

Donnchadha: [dallasstars4life.files.wordpress.com image 300x265]

Let's just say the NHL is particularly sensitive to "letter of the law" vs. "intent/spirit of the law" -- they will let goals off skates stand if there's no obvious intent to kick directly into the net even if it makes the "letter of the law" interpretation a little vague or ambiguous.


The NHL is much bigger on the intent/spirit of the law.  The referees are allowed and encouraged to use their discretion in cases of penalties, goals, icing, etc.  There are a few exceptions, namely the puck over glass delay of game penalty.  However in almost all other cases, the referee's discretion is used to keep the game flowing.
 
2013-05-24 08:07:54 PM
That was not a penalty!
 
2013-05-24 08:07:59 PM
dietbubba:*Snink snik*  BLADES OF STEEL

You just can't *not* hear it.
 
2013-05-24 08:08:14 PM
What I've learned is that white dudes will take any excuse to yell "coon" in public.
 
2013-05-24 08:09:20 PM
Power fail by the Sens...
 
2013-05-24 08:09:34 PM
Instead of clearing the puck, nisky decided to fall down. Bad choice.
 
2013-05-24 08:09:48 PM

costermonger: dietbubba:*Snink snik*  BLADES OF STEEL

You just can't *not* hear it.


Exactly
 
2013-05-24 08:10:36 PM

Fubegra: Power fail by the Sens...


What are you talking about, they didn't get scored on.
 
2013-05-24 08:12:03 PM
Crosby should've had that. Damn.
 
2013-05-24 08:13:36 PM

dietbubba: costermonger: dietbubba:*Snink snik*  BLADES OF STEEL

You just can't *not* hear it.

Exactly


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0TWOWjpEnI
 
2013-05-24 08:13:55 PM

cameroncrazy1984: What I've learned is that white dudes will take any excuse to yell "coon" in public.

Wtf?  Take that shiat to the politics tab, assclown
 
2013-05-24 08:14:23 PM
I bet you get a lot of bruises officiating hockey games
 
2013-05-24 08:14:52 PM
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2013-05-24 08:17:42 PM

AddictedToFoobies: cameroncrazy1984: What I've learned is that white dudes will take any excuse to yell "coon" in public.
Wtf?  Take that shiat to the politics tab, assclown


Well, you got a bite at least.
 
2013-05-24 08:18:12 PM

AddictedToFoobies: cameroncrazy1984: What I've learned is that white dudes will take any excuse to yell "coon" in public.
Wtf?  Take that shiat to the politics tab, assclown


Think about it. Packer fans do it when John Kuhn carries the ball. Pens fans do it when Vokoun makes a save. Makes total sense!
 
2013-05-24 08:20:12 PM

Quasar: AddictedToFoobies: cameroncrazy1984: What I've learned is that white dudes will take any excuse to yell "coon" in public.
Wtf?  Take that shiat to the politics tab, assclown

Well, you got a bite at least.


What can I say, the thread was slowing down.
 
2013-05-24 08:22:30 PM
Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner
 
2013-05-24 08:25:14 PM

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner


I'll crack open a beer (actual beer) if they revoke his Canadian citizenship for that.
 
2013-05-24 08:26:14 PM
What is going on at the Meow?
 
2013-05-24 08:28:36 PM

caira: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner

I'll crack open a beer (actual beer) if they revoke his Canadian citizenship for that.


Amen, brother.
If there's anything worse than paying $8-$12 for a beer at the game, is the fact it's corn-syrupped swill.
 
2013-05-24 08:28:47 PM
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-24 08:32:17 PM
photoshop/caption fodder?
img839.imageshack.us

maybe?
imageshack.us
 
2013-05-24 08:32:48 PM

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner


How sad.
 
2013-05-24 08:32:52 PM

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: caira: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner

I'll crack open a beer (actual beer) if they revoke his Canadian citizenship for that.

Amen, brother.
If there's anything worse than paying $8-$12 for a beer at the game, is the fact it's corn-syrupped swill.


I shouldn't judge too hard, not like the beer they flog at footy/cricket games down here is much better.  But at least it's our damn piss, made from 100% Aussie cat urine (I think they add roo piss to Carlton Draught for flavour, in fairness) and not some dirty foreigner's.
 
2013-05-24 08:33:09 PM

Mole Man: [farm4.staticflickr.com image 399x287]

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2013-05-24 08:33:26 PM

2wolves: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner

How sad.


Couldn't he at least do Molson?
 
2013-05-24 08:34:57 PM

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: caira: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner

I'll crack open a beer (actual beer) if they revoke his Canadian citizenship for that.

Amen, brother.
If there's anything worse than paying $8-$12 for a beer at the game, is the fact it's corn-syrupped swill.


I'll never forget seeing a sign at a store for Busch Beer, which proudly proclaimed: "Brewed with Illinois corn!"

That's a strange thing to be proud of.
 
2013-05-24 08:35:16 PM
Some day they will invent a fabric that changes color like a chameleon and Grapes will buy the first bolt of it made.
 
2013-05-24 08:35:26 PM

dietbubba: 2wolves: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Grapes is shilling for Budwiser on Coach's Corner

How sad.

Couldn't he at least do Molson?


He needs to declare himself a citizen of the US for that offense against Canadia.
 
2013-05-24 08:35:59 PM
I need a gif of that building!
 
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