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2013-05-24 09:57:43 AM
He's done this regularly forever.  Just because republican's are so hilariously stupid that they present an endless supply of material doesn't mean Obama is magically protected from attacks too.
 
2013-05-24 09:58:44 AM
It's almost as if Stewart isn't the left-wing equivalent of a right-wing blowhard who will only criticize the other "team."
 
2013-05-24 10:00:12 AM
Also, fark you, subby.  This "Even x attacks y" is the stupidest two dimensional thinking ever.  It's only ever surprising when it's one of the following: your spouse or your own lawyer.  The rest of the time, anyone can criticize anyone for anything, and we aren't flabbergasted when it happens.
 
2013-05-24 10:02:51 AM
Jon Stewart has never been a blind supporter of Obama.  He's regulary criticized him, for his entire presidency.
 
2013-05-24 10:03:06 AM

ikanreed: we aren't flabbergasted when it happens.


Well, those of us who aren't the aforementioned binary thinkers at least. Which, let's face it, is far less of the population than we would like to imagine.
 
2013-05-24 10:04:22 AM

PanicMan: Jon Stewart has never been a blind supporter of Obama.  He's regulary criticized him, for his entire presidency.


It's almost as if he's capable of having his own views instead of just toeing the party line.
 
MFK
2013-05-24 10:05:09 AM
troll headline is trollish.
 
2013-05-24 10:06:53 AM
But all my right-wing friends tell me that JoHn Stewart's mouth is firmly affixed to 0bama's penis at all times.
 
2013-05-24 10:06:59 AM
Wouldnt be Freeper Friday without the expected 'Jon Stewart never ever criticizes Obama and this is totally the first time this ever happened' bullshiat lie.

So, screw off subby, you tired hack.
 
2013-05-24 10:07:35 AM
Republicans only deal in absolutes. You are either far left or far right. It is possible that Jon Stewart is actually unbiased. He regularly gabs at both sides. It's not his fault that Republican do and say more idiotic stuff that makes for good humor. Because after all, it's a god damn comedy show.
 
2013-05-24 10:08:37 AM
Stewart first made his name on that show by cutting into Clinton. He was never a party hack, though I can understand how that might confuse GOP supporters (like my dad, who can't understand how I would vote for Obama and then criticize some of his policies- he just thought I was a "fan").
 
2013-05-24 10:09:02 AM
So this proves the right wing correct? If only we would have listened to the warnings about fist bumps and mustard choices...
 
2013-05-24 10:09:34 AM
The good thing about conservative troll submitters is that they make themselves so obvious, because they state things that show they have no attachment to reality.

If you didn't know that Jon Stewart attacks the President regularly (just as Rachel Maddow also does), you're clearly an idiot.
 
2013-05-24 10:10:38 AM

ikanreed: Also, fark you, subby.  This "Even x attacks y" is the stupidest two dimensional thinking ever.  It's only ever surprising when it's one of the following: your spouse or your own lawyer.  The rest of the time, anyone can criticize anyone for anything, and we aren't flabbergasted when it happens.


the liberal MSM media machine is married to Obama.

K-I-S-S-I-N-G
 
2013-05-24 10:10:48 AM
<i>How bad is it getting for Obama?</i>

About the same approval ratings he's had since mid-2009. A recovering economy. ACA is working out better than expected, so far. Shrugging off ginned-up "scandals" and wolf-crying hysteria from the opposition like it ain't no thang. Foreign policy mostly a success. Loving wife and two very nice daughters, and a cool dog to boot. Would almost certainly win a third term, if it was allowed.

Yeah, I'd say not bad at all. Thanks for asking.
 
2013-05-24 10:11:22 AM

Granny_Panties: Republicans only deal in absolutes. You are either far left or far right. It is possible that Jon Stewart is actually unbiased. He regularly gabs at both sides. It's not his fault that Republican do and say more idiotic stuff that makes for good humor. Because after all, it's a god damn comedy show.


As has been clearly lampooned on The Daily Show, these two statements are not the same thing.  Even remotely.  He has a pretty strong personal Bias towards centricism.  That's a moderately harmless bias, but it's far from objective.
 
2013-05-24 10:12:53 AM
Let's think back to the equivalent point in the Bush administration.  That was May 2005.  Remember May 2005?

Feel better yet?
 
2013-05-24 10:13:00 AM

Mr_Fabulous: <i>How bad is it getting for Obama?</i>

About the same approval ratings he's had since mid-2009. A recovering economy. ACA is working out better than expected, so far. Shrugging off ginned-up "scandals" and wolf-crying hysteria from the opposition like it ain't no thang. Foreign policy mostly a success. Loving wife and two very nice daughters, and a cool dog to boot. Would almost certainly win a third term, if it was allowed.

Yeah, I'd say not bad at all. Thanks for asking.


News of latest scandel causes Obama's approval rating to nosedive plummet upwards.
 
2013-05-24 10:13:10 AM

sendtodave: ikanreed: Also, fark you, subby.  This "Even x attacks y" is the stupidest two dimensional thinking ever.  It's only ever surprising when it's one of the following: your spouse or your own lawyer.  The rest of the time, anyone can criticize anyone for anything, and we aren't flabbergasted when it happens.

the liberal MSM media machine is married to Obama.

K-I-S-S-I-N-G


Because if they say anything bad about the Most Merciful One™, he'll kill them with drones.
 
2013-05-24 10:13:37 AM

Kome: ikanreed: we aren't flabbergasted when it happens.

Well, those of us who aren't the aforementioned binary thinkers at least. Which, let's face it, is far less of the population than we would like to imagine.


There are two types of people in the world- those who think there are two types of people in the world, and those who don't.
 
2013-05-24 10:13:40 AM

Granny_Panties: Republicans only deal in absolutes.


You underestimate their power!
 
2013-05-24 10:13:57 AM

Kibbler: Remember May 2005?


Wait... is this a trick question?
 
2013-05-24 10:16:03 AM

ikanreed: He has a pretty strong personal Bias towards centricism.


The center between where the two parties currently stand is pretty far from where Jon Stewart's personal opinions lie on the issues, I would think.

We have a right-of-center moderate party and a crazy right-wing extremist party. The center is way out of most people's standing on the issues in this country.
 
2013-05-24 10:17:22 AM

Granny_Panties: Republicans only deal in absolutes. You are either far left or far right. It is possible that Jon Stewart is actually unbiased. He regularly gabs at both sides. It's not his fault that Republican do and say more idiotic stuff that makes for good humor. Because after all, it's a god damn comedy show.


I'd say Stewart is quite biased. He's very liberal/progressive. What right wingtards can't seem to get us that Obama and the dems AREN'T liberal, because to them anything left of Limbaugh is a socialist. They also can't seem to get a grip on the idea that stupid isn't based on party (though the Right has certainly embraced it).
 
2013-05-24 10:18:30 AM

Kibbler: Let's think back to the equivalent point in the Bush administration.  That was May 2005.  Remember May 2005?

Feel better yet?


No.

Bush's approval rating was 48 in May 2005. Obama's is currently 49.

Approval rating has very little to do with job performance.

Not really sure what you're getting at.
 
2013-05-24 10:18:36 AM
This headline is demonstrably stupid and whoever wrote it should feel shame.
 
2013-05-24 10:18:51 AM

un4gvn666: ikanreed: He has a pretty strong personal Bias towards centricism.

The center between where the two parties currently stand is pretty far from where Jon Stewart's personal opinions lie on the issues, I would think.

We have a right-of-center moderate party and a crazy right-wing extremist party. The center is way out of most people's standing on the issues in this country.


No I mean the concept of centricism, not the midpoint of the parties.  Midpoint compromise on every issue.  That's pretty much his suggestion about everything. 
Wait for an episode where he suggests a fix for something, you'll see what I mean.
 
2013-05-24 10:20:30 AM
The second half of last nights show was FAR more entertaining.

3. 2. 1.
 
2013-05-24 10:23:39 AM

PanicMan: Jon Stewart has never been a blind supporter of Obama.  He's regulary criticized him, for his entire presidency.


So has Rachel Maddow.

If this is the worst it gets from the President as far as scandals, he's way ahead of the curve.
 
2013-05-24 10:30:48 AM

Mentat: PanicMan: Jon Stewart has never been a blind supporter of Obama.  He's regulary criticized him, for his entire presidency.

So has Rachel Maddow.

If this is the worst it gets from the President as far as scandals, he's way ahead of the curve.


Well, he is still black, which All Republicans still just can't seem to get over.
 
2013-05-24 10:33:00 AM

kidgenius: The second half of last nights show was FAR more entertaining.

3. 2. 1.


That may have been the most un-self-aware person I have ever seen. You could see that Jones was pretty flabbergasted by it.
 
2013-05-24 10:33:18 AM
Jon Stewart is fair and balanced. This proves it.
 
2013-05-24 10:34:03 AM
A liberal speaking from his principles is only surprising to people who don't understand putting principles before political party/side (conservatives).
 
2013-05-24 10:34:14 AM
I was a little torn by the Jason Jones segment last night. At first I found it undermined their clear message that what the IRS did was wrong to prod at conservatives for being hypocritical on profiling now that it applied to them... And then Wayne Allyn Root shows what a magnificent asshole he was to completely justify their prodding. The complete lack of empathy required to maintain his position in the face of other cases of profiling was unreal. Seriously: he was telling three minorities (a Dominican guy, a black guy, and a Muslim woman in a hijab) that they may think getting their face slammed into the hood of a police cruiser and cuffed for a patdown based only on "looking suspicious" might seem bad now, but the fear of injury and incarceration for DWB pales in comparison to having to complete an audit and possibly owe significant fines if your books aren't in order. Then the shiat-eating grin when the woman was describing having to face daily discrimination in front of her kids... They managed to find a way to not make a strawman out of the position, congratulations.
 
2013-05-24 10:38:43 AM

Grungehamster: I was a little torn by the Jason Jones segment last night. At first I found it undermined their clear message that what the IRS did was wrong to prod at conservatives for being hypocritical on profiling now that it applied to them... And then Wayne Allyn Root shows what a magnificent asshole he was to completely justify their prodding. The complete lack of empathy required to maintain his position in the face of other cases of profiling was unreal. Seriously: he was telling three minorities (a Dominican guy, a black guy, and a Muslim woman in a hijab) that they may think getting their face slammed into the hood of a police cruiser and cuffed for a patdown based only on "looking suspicious" might seem bad now, but the fear of injury and incarceration for DWB pales in comparison to having to complete an audit and possibly owe significant fines if your books aren't in order. Then the shiat-eating grin when the woman was describing having to face daily discrimination in front of her kids... They managed to find a way to not make a strawman out of the position, congratulations.


The IRS will never have enough manpower to prod all assholes.
 
2013-05-24 10:43:53 AM

Grungehamster: I was a little torn by the Jason Jones segment last night. At first I found it undermined their clear message that what the IRS did was wrong to prod at conservatives for being hypocritical on profiling now that it applied to them... And then Wayne Allyn Root shows what a magnificent asshole he was to completely justify their prodding. The complete lack of empathy required to maintain his position in the face of other cases of profiling was unreal. Seriously: he was telling three minorities (a Dominican guy, a black guy, and a Muslim woman in a hijab) that they may think getting their face slammed into the hood of a police cruiser and cuffed for a patdown based only on "looking suspicious" might seem bad now, but the fear of injury and incarceration for DWB pales in comparison to having to complete an audit and possibly owe significant fines if your books aren't in order. Then the shiat-eating grin when the woman was describing having to face daily discrimination in front of her kids... They managed to find a way to not make a strawman out of the position, congratulations.


I think the way TDS did it was excellent though. The very first thing they did last week was to come out against the IRS and the administration. Only after first saying that what the IRS did was wrong, did they point out the groups that are all about profiling, as long as it isn't them.
 
2013-05-24 10:44:29 AM

Grungehamster: I was a little torn by the Jason Jones segment last night. At first I found it undermined their clear message that what the IRS did was wrong to prod at conservatives for being hypocritical on profiling now that it applied to them... And then Wayne Allyn Root shows what a magnificent asshole he was to completely justify their prodding. The complete lack of empathy required to maintain his position in the face of other cases of profiling was unreal. Seriously: he was telling three minorities (a Dominican guy, a black guy, and a Muslim woman in a hijab) that they may think getting their face slammed into the hood of a police cruiser and cuffed for a patdown based only on "looking suspicious" might seem bad now, but the fear of injury and incarceration for DWB pales in comparison to having to complete an audit and possibly owe significant fines if your books aren't in order. Then the shiat-eating grin when the woman was describing having to face daily discrimination in front of her kids... They managed to find a way to not make a strawman out of the position, congratulations.


I think Jason Jones was trying to make the point that "profiling" was wrong... it was wrong against religious groups (Muslims), it was wrong against race (African Americans), and it was wrong against political groups (tea party).

The best part of that was that the conservative brushed off the other profiling that have resulted in wrongful criminal prosecutions and even deaths, as just "inconveniences" while his was "serious" because it "could have" destroyed his business.

On of the reasons I can't call myself a conservative anymore (despite most of my core beliefs remaining the same) you have to be so detached from reality.

/I don't have a big problem with profiling, even think it is a good thing sometimes.
//as long it is controlled (i.e. a clear policy with accountability)
 
2013-05-24 10:45:41 AM

Aldon: A liberal speaking from his principles is only surprising to people who don't understand putting principles before political party/side (conservatives).


and about 80% of the "liberals" on Fark, of course.
 
2013-05-24 10:49:04 AM
The Daily Show is moderate, as is the president. Just because 50% of the country is batshiat insane does not mean the other 50% bolt in the opposite direction...
 
2013-05-24 10:49:11 AM

ikanreed: He's done this regularly forever.  Just because republican's are so hilariously stupid that they present an endless supply of material doesn't mean Obama is magically protected from attacks too.


This.  The only difference is that Stewart actually has valid criticisms.
 
2013-05-24 10:49:47 AM

Cletus C.: Grungehamster: I was a little torn by the Jason Jones segment last night. At first I found it undermined their clear message that what the IRS did was wrong to prod at conservatives for being hypocritical on profiling now that it applied to them... And then Wayne Allyn Root shows what a magnificent asshole he was to completely justify their prodding. The complete lack of empathy required to maintain his position in the face of other cases of profiling was unreal. Seriously: he was telling three minorities (a Dominican guy, a black guy, and a Muslim woman in a hijab) that they may think getting their face slammed into the hood of a police cruiser and cuffed for a patdown based only on "looking suspicious" might seem bad now, but the fear of injury and incarceration for DWB pales in comparison to having to complete an audit and possibly owe significant fines if your books aren't in order. Then the shiat-eating grin when the woman was describing having to face daily discrimination in front of her kids... They managed to find a way to not make a strawman out of the position, congratulations.

The IRS will never have enough manpower to prod all assholes.


My sentence structure there was complete crap. I meant it undercut their message that the IRS was completely in the wrong when they decided to do a whole bit on how "hey, some of these guys are the same people who want ethnic profiling of criminals", but the fact that the guy they brought in was explicitly willing to say that law enforcement officers are only inconvenience people by targeting them when investigating possible criminal activity whereas his being audited (which no evidence has come out saying auditors purposefully sought out conservatives for income tax audits, but he believes was the case) was a brazen and disgusting violation of his civil rights.
 
2013-05-24 10:50:02 AM

kidgenius: The second half of last nights show was FAR more entertaining.

3. 2. 1.


I honestly thought it was painful and wanted to slap that guy.  Is it really that possible to be so disconnected from reality and not be in an insane asylum?
 
2013-05-24 10:50:11 AM

skullkrusher: Aldon: A liberal speaking from his principles is only surprising to people who don't understand putting principles before political party/side (conservatives).

and about 80% of the "liberals" on Fark, of course.


I see, both sides are the same you say?.  deep.
 
2013-05-24 10:50:59 AM

ikanreed: He's done this regularly forever.  Just because republican's are so hilariously stupid that they present an endless supply of material doesn't mean Obama is magically protected from attacks too.


Done in one I see.
 
2013-05-24 10:51:21 AM
 
2013-05-24 10:53:33 AM

Aldon: skullkrusher: Aldon: A liberal speaking from his principles is only surprising to people who don't understand putting principles before political party/side (conservatives).

and about 80% of the "liberals" on Fark, of course.

I see, both sides are the same you say?.  deep.


actually, I was just pointing out the glaring oversight in your little blurb about principles. An honest mistake, I'm sure.
 
2013-05-24 10:54:10 AM

ikanreed: He's done this regularly forever.  Just because republican's are so hilariously stupid that they present an endless supply of material doesn't mean Obama is magically protected from attacks too.


rcantley: It's almost as if Stewart isn't the left-wing equivalent of a right-wing blowhard who will only criticize the other "team."


No need for further discussion. I'm so tired of people obsessed with partisan politics. The system has its uses but one should not be swearing fealty for life to one or the other especially when "your side" starts doing things you hate. Anyone who is still a Republican despite at least nominally disagreeing with what the GOP is doing is a part of the problem- being loyal to a group that deserves no more of your loyalty. *sigh* How often does this need to be said?

This thread now dedicated to awesome Minecraft seeds (let's see if someone else will play along; it's been a while since I played and I want an awesome map to start with).
 
2013-05-24 10:55:52 AM

skullkrusher: Aldon: skullkrusher: Aldon: A liberal speaking from his principles is only surprising to people who don't understand putting principles before political party/side (conservatives).

and about 80% of the "liberals" on Fark, of course.

I see, both sides are the same you say?.  deep.

actually, I was just pointing out the glaring oversight in your little blurb about principles. An honest mistake, I'm sure.


My opinion needed some oversight? Hmmm, even dereper.
 
2013-05-24 10:56:02 AM

Kibbler: Let's think back to the equivalent point in the Bush administration.  That was May 2005.  Remember May 2005?

Feel better yet?


Checkmate
 
2013-05-24 10:56:28 AM

ikanreed: He's done this regularly forever.


Thread done in one.
 
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