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2013-05-24 08:13:57 AM  
It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.
 
2013-05-24 08:19:04 AM  

nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.


Aah, 10BASE5 and vampire taps. Those weren't the days.
 
2013-05-24 08:22:03 AM  
0.tqn.com
 
2013-05-24 08:51:00 AM  
Yeah, uh, ethernet is a protocol, it's not wires.
 
2013-05-24 09:13:43 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Aah, 10BASE5 and vampire taps. Those weren't the days.


The bad old days.
 
2013-05-24 09:31:19 AM  
I perceive some lawns being walked on and clouds sorely in need of a good yelling at.
 
2013-05-24 09:48:53 AM  

nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.


Yeah, twisted pair didn't come in until what?  1990?

Back in the 80's it was all coax cable and $1500 adapters.  And you'd have to provide your own TCP/IP stack.

And we LIKED it.
 
2013-05-24 09:49:29 AM  

show me: Yeah, uh, ethernet is a protocol, it's not wires.


It's a series of tubes.
 
2013-05-24 10:08:44 AM  

nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.


Don't forget the good ole IBM type 1.
 
2013-05-24 10:09:57 AM  
Farked already?
 
2013-05-24 10:15:11 AM  
My first network used barbed wire. I tell ya, it was pretty wild back in Wyoming in the 1890s.
 
2013-05-24 10:15:49 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: show me: Yeah, uh, ethernet is a protocol, it's not wires.

It's a series of tubes.


A Co-worker sent me an ethernet on Wednesday, and I didn't get it until this morning.
 
2013-05-24 10:15:52 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Aah, 10BASE5 and vampire taps. Those weren't the days.


Ah, yeah, that was the stuff. Slightly before my time, but I still had to support it until we finished converting to a 10BaseT network. Breath wrong, and the vampire tap fell off.

Given today's prices, I always wondered what happened to 10Base5 cables. It was like a solid quarter inch of copper. There had to be miles of the stuff in the building.
 
2013-05-24 10:17:23 AM  

nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.


Ditto.  The first network I set up was LANtastic...with coax and BNC connectors.  FUN!
 
2013-05-24 10:17:51 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Don't forget the good ole IBM type 1.


Those connectors were for Token Ring.......
 
2013-05-24 10:18:56 AM  
nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs. I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Yeah, twisted pair didn't come in until what? 1990?

Back in the 80's it was all coax cable and $1500 adapters. And you'd have to provide your own TCP/IP stack.

And we LIKED it.


Early 90s, bought some co-ax gear for a small office. Installed it. Discovered we didn't have any terminators for the end of the run. Spent the whole day driving around trying to find a place that had some. I learned a lot in those days. Usually after I screwed something up.
 
2013-05-24 10:22:55 AM  
That was very informative, I had been living under the delusion that the ethernet was something that fish surgeons used.
 
2013-05-24 10:25:32 AM  
Another win for the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC).

We are all living in a computer age that they dreamed up.
 
2013-05-24 10:28:36 AM  

grokca: DammitIForgotMyLogin: nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Aah, 10BASE5 and vampire taps. Those weren't the days.

The bad old days.


yeah, 10BASE2 cable with BNC T-Connector.. those were fun to build little robot men with.
 
2013-05-24 10:30:21 AM  
deathandtaxesmag.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com


...a pint of raw ethernet and two dozen amyls....
 
2013-05-24 10:32:48 AM  
Back in MY DAYYY they had token ring. And sometimes the token would fall out and you would have to search for it on the floor...
 
2013-05-24 10:35:04 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-24 10:35:33 AM  
I still have all the BNC T connectors and 50 Ohm terminators from the upgrade to 10 meg 10BASET cat 5 in the mid to late 90's. I used some of the bridge connectors to tie them all together and make a monster out of them. Still have it at my desk.
 
2013-05-24 10:37:37 AM  
Really Twisted Pair

static.tvguide.com yuq.me
 
2013-05-24 10:39:20 AM  
The double helix dna model is 60 years old, not 40
 
2013-05-24 10:39:24 AM  

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 500x500]


Token wheel? I don't get it.

I saw the headline and thought "Hm... Wasn't the Watson/Crick thing more than 40 years ago?"
 
2013-05-24 10:46:22 AM  
Twisted pair

external.ak.fbcdn.net

Ow! My NO-NOs!
 
2013-05-24 10:46:58 AM  
Ethernet is twisted? Does it also have a Mercedes Benz?
 
2013-05-24 10:48:04 AM  
Shout out to my homies, Watson & Crick.
Bad ass mofos.
 
2013-05-24 10:48:36 AM  
That article was written with all of the knowledge and confidence of "experts" that came along in late 1990s with Windows Servers.

The original Ethernet cards didn't have 10BaseT twisted pair ports.  They had the thicknet transceiver connectors and/or the "thinnet" coax BNC connectors. You needed a $50 transceiver to convert to twisted pair.

It wasn't "found" that Ethernet could work or twisted pair, twisted pair Ethernet was engineered, tested, and standardized.

There were no switches in the beginning. There were hubs.  There were no Token Ring switches.  I'll lay odds that Mr. Tata doesn't know the difference.

I could go on....

GET OFF OF MY LAWN NETWORK!
 
2013-05-24 10:49:23 AM  

nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs. I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.


And you won't find many twisted pairs once you go past 1Gbps. That's all optical fibre or copper Twinax.
 
2013-05-24 10:53:03 AM  

show me: Yeah, uh, ethernet is a protocol, it's not wires.


The Ethernet standards are a Physical and Link-Layer protocol specification. It does indeed specify what is going on at the physical layer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.3

If you want to complain about the headline, you would have to point out that UTP/STP was nowhere to be found in the original Ethernet specifications.
 
2013-05-24 10:54:38 AM  

mark--fark: jehovahs witness protection: nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Don't forget the good ole IBM type 1.

Those connectors were for Token Ring.......


My first network was token ring.  Worked great until one day the token fell out and got lost.  Only one local store had tokens and they wanted 5 grand for them!  That's the day I started switching over to ThinLAN.
 
2013-05-24 10:55:55 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Back in MY DAYYY they had token ring. And sometimes the token would fall out and you would have to search for it on the floor...


Dang it.  I should have read ahead in the fine old thread.
 
2013-05-24 11:00:28 AM  
I use 14.4 dialup so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies
 
2013-05-24 11:01:11 AM  
<brag on>
I got to meet Bob Metcalfe the other day.  He's at UT doing doing a lot of work to help start-ups spin out.  A very nice guy with a great vision for UT and our new medical school.
<brag off>
 
2013-05-24 11:06:14 AM  
Is it bad form to link to Reddit on Fark? If you missed it, Bob Metcalfe did a great AMA a couple of days ago:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments /1erq51/youre_probably_connectin g _to_reddit_through_a/
 
2013-05-24 11:07:06 AM  
Sorry if the link above is messed up. I'm on my phone.
 
2013-05-24 11:17:37 AM  
I heard Al Gore came up with the ethernet cable concept and design.
 
2013-05-24 11:17:48 AM  

SMB2811: show me: Yeah, uh, ethernet is a protocol, it's not wires.

The Ethernet standards are a Physical and Link-Layer protocol specification. It does indeed specify what is going on at the physical layer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.3

If you want to complain about the headline, you would have to point out that UTP/STP was nowhere to be found in the original Ethernet specifications.


OK, I'm not really a network guy, just trying to be snarky without having all the information. Thanks for the info.

I used to work for IBM Global Services in the late '90s and our company issued laptops were still using token ring exclusively until about 1998 or so. And yeah, I've heard every joke about the token getting lost and having to buy another one.
 
2013-05-24 11:18:49 AM  

RatOmeter: mark--fark: jehovahs witness protection: nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Don't forget the good ole IBM type 1.

Those connectors were for Token Ring.......

My first network was token ring.  Worked great until one day the token fell out and got lost.  Only one local store had tokens and they wanted 5 grand for them!  That's the day I started switching over to ThinLAN.


I worked some on 100 Mbps token-ring cards. That network protocol contained neither tokens nor rings (it was point to point like gigabit Ethernet, and used the 100Mbps-Ethernet physical layer). Never caught on, AFAIK.
 
2013-05-24 11:31:27 AM  

show me: I used to work for IBM Global Services in the late '90s and our company issued laptops were still using token ring exclusively until about 1998 or so. And yeah, I've heard every joke about the token getting lost and having to buy another one.


Did you also hear a lot about mouse balls?
 
2013-05-24 11:33:42 AM  
I remember when we finally replaced IPoAC (IP over Avian Carriers) for our WAN back in the '90s. Saved lots of time and money.
 
2013-05-24 11:34:02 AM  

Tax Boy: Twisted pair

[external.ak.fbcdn.net image 400x300]

Ow! My NO-NOs!


I see my work here is done
 
2013-05-24 11:37:05 AM  

nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs.  I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.


Ah yes, thin-net. It was similar to a ring or more accurately a dipole. And you had to terminate the ends otherwise signal leakage would cause major havoc.

Funny story - in one place I worked I'm in the conference room with the boss one day and we're working on something. All of a sudden the whole network goes down.

We searched everywhere and the problem was found when I realized the boss had been kicking a connector down on the floor. That connector was a T that essentially was the first link from the origin point.

I upgraded that to UTP sooner than later. That's the thing, the old coax networks worked but EVERYONE shared the same wire causing contention issues. With home runs and switches that alleviates the contention issue.
 
2013-05-24 11:38:21 AM  
Unfortunately, Ethernet didn't work so well with PTP://

goats.com
 
2013-05-24 11:38:55 AM  
Hahaha...I thought for a second it was Tara Reid's birthday.
 
2013-05-24 11:40:12 AM  
NewWorldDan:

nekom: It wasn't always twisted pairs. I remember working with ethernet using BNC connectors and coax wire.

Yeah, twisted pair didn't come in until what? 1990?

Back in the 80's it was all coax cable and $1500 adapters. And you'd have to provide your own TCP/IP stack.

And we LIKED it.

Early 90s, bought some co-ax gear for a small office. Installed it. Discovered we didn't have any terminators for the end of the run. Spent the whole day driving around trying to find a place that had some. I learned a lot in those days. Usually after I screwed something up.


Somewhere in my junk drawer I have a bunch of 10B2 terminators I made by making short pigtails of coax with a BNC on one end, stripping the other end and soldering two 20 ohm resistors in parallel across them. (This was for my home network, and I'm cheap.)

So in the oh-so-likely event that you have to find 10B2 terminators... Radio Shack has them, some assembly required.

CS,B:

In the late 80's I ran the computer labs at a small college that was just starting to offer Novell courses. The part-time instructor was a pompus ass who evidently was network admin for some government agency and he would be the first to tell you how smart he was.

He called me at home one saturday morning in a rage to tell me how one of the machines must have failed because no matter what he did he couldn't get it on the class network. So I drive in, take one look at the cabling, and notice that the cable on that machine was coming out of one side of the T connector... looping around and... plugging into the other side of the same T connector.

I made a crack about loopback interfaces and left.
 
2013-05-24 11:41:07 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: The double helix dna model is 60 years old, not 40


DNA is Subby's Mom's favorite twisted pair.
 
2013-05-24 11:42:13 AM  

Tommy Moo: theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 500x500]

Token wheel? I don't get it.

I saw the headline and thought "Hm... Wasn't the Watson/Crick thing more than 40 years ago?"


Token Ring.  Always fun when the token gets lost.

I worked at a company that had thinlan ethernet.  They had a terminator come loose in a control room in a factory, and it took down the LAN in the factory and then it jumped over the wan and took down the corporate office LAN.
 
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