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2013-05-24 12:03:20 AM
Posting - someone didn't bother to RTFA or who is just trolling for attention.
 
2013-05-24 12:05:29 AM
It's porn.  Lots and lots of porn.
 
2013-05-24 12:09:40 AM
He was hosting servers from his house because he didn't want to pay for the business plan.  He doesn't even object to paying the higher cost.

The article isn't very clear, but I'm guessing he isn't "downloading" that much data, other people are from his account.  It's still an extraordinary amount, but it sounds like he's serving up a vdeo server so relatives can watch movies.  That's going to suck up bandwidth like nobody's business.
 
2013-05-24 12:46:18 AM
Damn. And here I thought my 30TB media server was nice. I am definitely jealous.
 
2013-05-24 01:50:29 AM
usenet
 
2013-05-24 07:10:53 AM
Wow. 77TB is a super reasonable data cap. I miss FiOS so much. Time warner can suck my coax.
 
2013-05-24 07:13:48 AM

Lsherm: He was hosting servers from his house because he didn't want to pay for the business plan.  He doesn't even object to paying the higher cost.

The article isn't very clear, but I'm guessing he isn't "downloading" that much data, other people are from his account.  It's still an extraordinary amount, but it sounds like he's serving up a vdeo server so relatives can watch movies.  That's going to suck up bandwidth like nobody's business.


My municipal fiber-optic network offers a 100/100 service (gigabit service installation begins in July).  As of last year, 6 commercial and one residential customer were paying the ~$150/month for that tier.  If you wanted to run a server from your house, you could certainly do it with those speeds.

/5 years of service, no major complaints
//Slime-Warner can die in a flaming bag of herpes-encrusted dicks
 
2013-05-24 07:14:08 AM
I doubt I come even close to 1 or 2 tb a month. 77tb? insane.
 
2013-05-24 07:16:10 AM
That really is hard on the fiber. It's just glass you know. When your neighbors' Youtubes start to come in all pink and then you open the fiber in the basement and it's mainly just piles of crumbly little glass bits in the wire you know you took it too far.
 
2013-05-24 07:23:06 AM
Yeah. I saw this yesterday and I have to admit some envy. That's one hell of a setup for a home server. Bet his heating bills are really low.
 
2013-05-24 07:31:46 AM
who else pronounces it "arse technica" in their heads?
 
2013-05-24 07:36:26 AM

prjindigo: who else pronounces it "arse technica" in their heads?


you mean it isn't that?
 
2013-05-24 07:42:06 AM
I love the " forbidden to run ANY type of server" clause. Its an instant out as any pc connected to the net work will probably serve up information if queried correctly.
 
2013-05-24 07:58:21 AM

ChubbyTiger: Yeah. I saw this yesterday and I have to admit some envy. That's one hell of a setup for a home server. Bet his heating bills are really low.


There is a machine in my back bedroom closet with 108TB worth of hard disks (36 3TB drives spread over two chassis). It's warm, but anyone with a dual graphics card gaming machine is familiar with something much warmer. It was built to be very quiet, to the point that I've had guests stay in that bedroom without being aware that there's a giant server rack in the closet. I think that machine costs me about $15/month in electricity, but I also think that's completely reasonable.
 
2013-05-24 08:01:38 AM

brainlordmesomorph: prjindigo: who else pronounces it "arse technica" in their heads?

you mean it isn't that?


I do now.
 
2013-05-24 08:02:47 AM

likefunbutnot: ChubbyTiger: Yeah. I saw this yesterday and I have to admit some envy. That's one hell of a setup for a home server. Bet his heating bills are really low.

There is a machine in my back bedroom closet with 108TB worth of hard disks (36 3TB drives spread over two chassis). It's warm, but anyone with a dual graphics card gaming machine is familiar with something much warmer. It was built to be very quiet, to the point that I've had guests stay in that bedroom without being aware that there's a giant server rack in the closet. I think that machine costs me about $15/month in electricity, but I also think that's completely reasonable.


I thought I was doing well having four 3 TB drives in my Windows server.
 
2013-05-24 08:03:47 AM
I'm jealous that he has that kind of gear in his home.
 
2013-05-24 08:04:23 AM
I'mokwiththis.jpg

I generally hate the idea of data caps on personal plans but this guy really should be on a commercial plan, not a residential. He used to be on one but switched because "the pricing on the commercial was out of line with the residential"  Umm, dude, you're hosting streaming video for friends.   You're effectively a reseller, you just choose to not charge your customers.

/Or perhaps we could switch the college I work at over to a residential plan?  4 300Mbps connections would be faster than what we have now (1.1 Gbps) and cost a whole lot less....
 
2013-05-24 08:08:05 AM
Yes, you too can run an internet storage company in your basement... but you'd better upgrade to the business plan.
 
2013-05-24 08:16:35 AM

likefunbutnot: ChubbyTiger: Yeah. I saw this yesterday and I have to admit some envy. That's one hell of a setup for a home server. Bet his heating bills are really low.

There is a machine in my back bedroom closet with 108TB worth of hard disks (36 3TB drives spread over two chassis). It's warm, but anyone with a dual graphics card gaming machine is familiar with something much warmer. It was built to be very quiet, to the point that I've had guests stay in that bedroom without being aware that there's a giant server rack in the closet. I think that machine costs me about $15/month in electricity, but I also think that's completely reasonable.


So... what's on these disks? It's porn, right?
I bet it's porn.
 
2013-05-24 08:18:13 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: I'mokwiththis.jpg

I generally hate the idea of data caps on personal plans but this guy really should be on a commercial plan, not a residential. He used to be on one but switched because "the pricing on the commercial was out of line with the residential"  Umm, dude, you're hosting streaming video for friends.   You're effectively a reseller, you just choose to not charge your customers.

/Or perhaps we could switch the college I work at over to a residential plan?  4 300Mbps connections would be faster than what we have now (1.1 Gbps) and cost a whole lot less....


If you're not charging, I don't think they're customers.  To be a reseller, it seems to me that you have to sell something.  If Verizon can prove that this guy is doing that, then they have a beef with him.  But if he's not a business, then Verizon was stupid to say "unlimited".

What I got from this story is what I've heard before.  When any internet company tells you that data is "unlimited," what they always means is that data is not unlimited.  They're sloppy about these things, and they just shove out some great-sounding marketing hype "unlimited data!" and then they get upset when people inevitably take them at their word.

In short, anything that a phone/internet company says can usually be taken to mean the exact opposite.
 
2013-05-24 08:21:05 AM
I also vote for porn.

It is what all of us would be downloading if we had that much capacity.  Don't even try to deny it.
 
2013-05-24 08:21:09 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: He used to be on one but switched because "the pricing on the commercial was out of line with the residential"


50Mbit Comcast business is $150/month with no data caps and a "do whatever you want" service agreement. Yes, that's more expensive than a consumer plan, but the first month Comcast went to metered service I exceeded the 250GB transfer cap by around 3.5TB.

Also, in case anybody is wondering, I'll just leave this link right here.
 
2013-05-24 08:21:35 AM
DNRTFA but I'm guessing this:
dl.dropboxusercontent.com


BizarreMan: It's porn.  Lots and lots of porn.



The internet can be used for more than just porn.

/is among the many lies the media has taught me.
 
2013-05-24 08:28:24 AM

BizarreMan: It's porn.  Lots and lots of porn.


Thread over in 2.   Its porn.  We all know its porn.

/About 1/10th of the total pr0n on the 'net.
 
2013-05-24 08:30:40 AM
50Mbit Comcast business for $150/month is steep for a connection below 100Mbit, unless it's 50/50 Up/down
 
2013-05-24 08:30:43 AM

UNC_Samurai: Lsherm: He was hosting servers from his house because he didn't want to pay for the business plan.  He doesn't even object to paying the higher cost.

The article isn't very clear, but I'm guessing he isn't "downloading" that much data, other people are from his account.  It's still an extraordinary amount, but it sounds like he's serving up a vdeo server so relatives can watch movies.  That's going to suck up bandwidth like nobody's business.

My municipal fiber-optic network offers a 100/100 service (gigabit service installation begins in July).  As of last year, 6 commercial and one residential customer were paying the ~$150/month for that tier.  If you wanted to run a server from your house, you could certainly do it with those speeds.

/5 years of service, no major complaints
//Slime-Warner can die in a flaming bag of herpes-encrusted dicks


The reason I kinda wanna live in Wilson.

/Fark the state legislature for outlawing that in the rest of the state.
 
2013-05-24 08:52:44 AM

Third Day Mark: Thread over in 2. Its porn. We all know its porn.


He has 209TB of raw space and most of it is on smaller and older drives. They don't mention what he's doing for backup. Personally I have an LTO4 changer but if he's not doing that he's probably using rsync or something to maintain redundant copies of whatever data he thinks is important. If he doesn't have backups then he could be duplicating 50% of his storage onto the other 50%. He's probably smart enough to have a better way of dealing with things than that.

If he's anything like I am, he's probably thinking of arrays in bundles of six drives: Four drives are "live" in RAID5/RAIDz5 with a hot spare or RAID6/RAIDz6, so he's probably losing 1/3 of his total capacity to that.

Anyway, he could have as little as 50TB of live data in that mess. His disk space is spread out all over hell too. I don't know why for example his router needs 6TB of space unless he wants REALLY thorough traffic logs.

He's got a Plex server and he's sharing it with a bunch of people. That almost goes without saying.
He might be a guy who is seeding an assload of EZtv/PublicHD/YIFY stuff on TPB.
A Netflix peering box that holds 85% of the content available for streaming on Netflix has 100TB of space. I suspect that a fairly complete set of common pirated TV shows and blu rays is around that size.

As for porn: It's not hard to keep up with. It's mostly just an exercise in having enough disk space and bandwidth to support. Perhaps 100GB/day in new content goes up on dedicated torrent sites or through newsgroups.

He could have rolled his own cloud backup service. I do that at home for a couple servers I manage that are out in the world.

He's probably hosting some VMs for various internet servers. Virtual machines are not normally large by these standards but they could be doing anything.
 
2013-05-24 08:55:59 AM
Yet another company that refers to "excessive" usage, but fails to define excessive in their contract.
 
2013-05-24 08:59:46 AM

spentshells: 50Mbit Comcast business for $150/month is steep for a connection below 100Mbit, unless it's 50/50 Up/down


It's 50 down, 10 up minimum, but as I said the important part is that it's unmetered. Consumers who spring for Comcast's $200/month 100Mbit service still have a 250GB/month transfer cap are just going to hit the cap that much faster. I'd switch to business-class FiOS or Google Fiber in a heartbeat were it available but that service is fairly exotic and Comcast serves something like a third of the USA, so for a lot of people it's probably the best available option.

Yes, that is sad.
 
2013-05-24 09:02:51 AM

MagicBoris: likefunbutnot: ChubbyTiger: Yeah. I saw this yesterday and I have to admit some envy. That's one hell of a setup for a home server. Bet his heating bills are really low.

There is a machine in my back bedroom closet with 108TB worth of hard disks (36 3TB drives spread over two chassis). It's warm, but anyone with a dual graphics card gaming machine is familiar with something much warmer. It was built to be very quiet, to the point that I've had guests stay in that bedroom without being aware that there's a giant server rack in the closet. I think that machine costs me about $15/month in electricity, but I also think that's completely reasonable.

So... what's on these disks? It's porn, right?
I bet it's porn.


you said porn twice.
 
2013-05-24 09:08:51 AM

nocturnal001: Wow. 77TB is a super reasonable data cap. I miss FiOS so much. Time warner can suck my coax.


My AT&T cap is 150GB/month :(

It makes using anything like Netflix impossible, but of course that is what AT&T wanted in the first place so people would have to get their vastly inferior service. Oh the wonderfulness of having monopolies in an area and enough money to bribe the State Senate to block anything else.
 
2013-05-24 09:17:25 AM

likefunbutnot: spentshells: 50Mbit Comcast business for $150/month is steep for a connection below 100Mbit, unless it's 50/50 Up/down

It's 50 down, 10 up minimum, but as I said the important part is that it's unmetered. Consumers who spring for Comcast's $200/month 100Mbit service still have a 250GB/month transfer cap are just going to hit the cap that much faster. I'd switch to business-class FiOS or Google Fiber in a heartbeat were it available but that service is fairly exotic and Comcast serves something like a third of the USA, so for a lot of people it's probably the best available option.

Yes, that is sad.


I'm happy with my COmcast business service too (even though they raised the rate on my 16/3 connection to $70). But to be fair, there isn't a 250GB cap anymore on home service.
 
2013-05-24 09:30:03 AM

BizarreMan: It's porn.  Lots and lots of porn.


I think he was going for all of it.
 
2013-05-24 09:32:49 AM
Porn. Obviously.

oh, and GoT episodes (which are basically 40% porn anyway)
 
2013-05-24 09:36:51 AM

olapbill: MagicBoris: likefunbutnot: ChubbyTiger: Yeah. I saw this yesterday and I have to admit some envy. That's one hell of a setup for a home server. Bet his heating bills are really low.

There is a machine in my back bedroom closet with 108TB worth of hard disks (36 3TB drives spread over two chassis). It's warm, but anyone with a dual graphics card gaming machine is familiar with something much warmer. It was built to be very quiet, to the point that I've had guests stay in that bedroom without being aware that there's a giant server rack in the closet. I think that machine costs me about $15/month in electricity, but I also think that's completely reasonable.

So... what's on these disks? It's porn, right?
I bet it's porn.

you said porn twice.


Don't look at me like I'm the only one who likes porn...

www.angryflower.com

/shamelessly hotlinked
 
2013-05-24 09:38:22 AM

nocturnal001: Wow. 77TB is a super reasonable data cap. I miss FiOS so much. Time warner can suck my coax.


Yeah I'd be rather pleased with even a small fraction of that as a monthly cap lol
 
2013-05-24 09:48:42 AM
Article:


Saving a few bucksHoukouonchi switched from dual 150 megabit business class connections to a 300 megabit downstream/65 megabit upstream residential plan in January (though he said he was getting 150 megabits upstream). "I only switched to residential simply because business pricing wasn't in line with residential anymore," he said. (Verizon prices the residential service at more than $200 a month for 300/65; business service for dual 150 megabit lines runs $340 a month, and 300 megabit service costs $259 a month.)
 
2013-05-24 10:03:28 AM

likefunbutnot: spentshells: 50Mbit Comcast business for $150/month is steep for a connection below 100Mbit, unless it's 50/50 Up/down

It's 50 down, 10 up minimum, but as I said the important part is that it's unmetered. Consumers who spring for Comcast's $200/month 100Mbit service still have a 250GB/month transfer cap are just going to hit the cap that much faster. I'd switch to business-class FiOS or Google Fiber in a heartbeat were it available but that service is fairly exotic and Comcast serves something like a third of the USA, so for a lot of people it's probably the best available option.

Yes, that is sad.


I get ~70 down 20 up for the equivalent of about $60/month, unmetered - as with this guy if you really started hitting them they probably would whine, but I manage >1TB a month fairly consistently and they haven't said anything in nearly a year, so they aren't very stringent.

/do get torrent traffic throttled down quite a bit from 6pm-12am, but that is not a massive limitation
 
2013-05-24 10:11:33 AM

likefunbutnot: Glockenspiel Hero: He used to be on one but switched because "the pricing on the commercial was out of line with the residential"

50Mbit Comcast business is $150/month with no data caps and a "do whatever you want" service agreement. Yes, that's more expensive than a consumer plan, but the first month Comcast went to metered service I exceeded the 250GB transfer cap by around 3.5TB.

Also, in case anybody is wondering, I'll just leave this link right here.


They really could've gone with a better ad design for their "protect your browsing history" service than creepy guy in the background watching two kids.
 
2013-05-24 10:13:30 AM
This is why we can't have nice things. Next month everyone gets a data cap.

/thanks 0bama?
 
2013-05-24 10:24:35 AM

likefunbutnot: If he's anything like I am, he's probably thinking of arrays in bundles of six drives: Four drives are "live" in RAID5/RAIDz5 with a hot spare or RAID6/RAIDz6, so he's probably losing 1/3 of his total capacity to that.


If I was building a massive data storage server I wouldn't bother with RAID. I'd go the route google is using now or the backblaze pod. I mean you have to have greater redundancy because you store everything in triplicate on independent drives but you also buy cheaper consumer level drives in the first place. They apparently find it much easier to replace failed drives with less overhead and monitoring (and downtime) than a RAID based system.
 
2013-05-24 10:28:51 AM
Can someone answer my question of why you have servers? I honestly don't know their purpose.

/use Internet mainly for news, fantasy sports and amazon.
 
2013-05-24 10:39:47 AM

way south: The internet can be used for more than just porn.


Bullshiat
 
2013-05-24 10:58:51 AM
Well... I have my silly little 8TB Raid array that isn't even half full.  I feel inadequate.  Then again, I don't DL porn.  It's free on the interwebs, so why keep a copy that you're never going to look at?  More seriously however, it sounds like he runs a PLEX / XBMC server for his family and hosts torrents (Linux ISO? probably not).  So it's not a surprise that he could smash his normal bandwidth even without downloading a ton of porn.

What bugs me more is that he's absolutely correct about business class internet.  A dedicated T1 costs the same amount of the high tier FIOS and doesn't offer competitive speed for the price.  I can't blame him for going with the cheaper option.

The 300/65 price is only about $200 per month.  A T1 (1.5 symmetrical) is about $250 per month.  An OC3 (155 symmetrical) is around $30000 per month.  Might as well pay for the FiOS.

BTW, before any networking guys come in here, yes I know an OC3 provides a steady bandwidth while FiOS is a burst speed, but c'mon man.  There's no reason to pay 30k a month when $200 for burst speed is all you are going to need anyway.
 
2013-05-24 11:07:26 AM

BizarreMan: It's porn.  Lots and lots of

Not enough porn.
 
2013-05-24 11:11:46 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-24 11:14:42 AM

degenerate-afro: Well... I have my silly little 8TB Raid array that isn't even half full.  I feel inadequate.  Then again, I don't DL porn.  It's free on the interwebs, so why keep a copy that you're never going to look at?  More seriously however, it sounds like he runs a PLEX / XBMC server for his family and hosts torrents (Linux ISO? probably not).  So it's not a surprise that he could smash his normal bandwidth even without downloading a ton of porn.

What bugs me more is that he's absolutely correct about business class internet.  A dedicated T1 costs the same amount of the high tier FIOS and doesn't offer competitive speed for the price.  I can't blame him for going with the cheaper option.

The 300/65 price is only about $200 per month.  A T1 (1.5 symmetrical) is about $250 per month.  An OC3 (155 symmetrical) is around $30000 per month.  Might as well pay for the FiOS.

BTW, before any networking guys come in here, yes I know an OC3 provides a steady bandwidth while FiOS is a burst speed, but c'mon man.  There's no reason to pay 30k a month when $200 for burst speed is all you are going to need anyway.


That would depend on QOS that you're expecting/offering.  But 30 K?


In any case, I can't wait for FIOS to finally cable my building.  They were here last year, and said we'd be live in 4 months.  Then Sandy, so they've been busy.  I did see them putting the conduit in the street, and if I'm not mistaken, I saw them pulling the fiber to the building, they just need to get off their ass, and get us up and running.  I can finally tell Time Warner to go fark themselves.
 
2013-05-24 11:23:12 AM
It is Anime filez. Lots of tentacle porn I bet.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3550972#post 4 15772664
 
2013-05-24 11:23:15 AM
Looking at that nice man's server rack, I'd imagine the revenue service will be dropping by to inquire about taxes on all those hosting fees people are paying him.  Or the ad revenue from all the porn sites he's running.  Perhaps also a visit from the fire marshal.

/dude is pulling down so much energy I bet the local PD raided him thinking it was a grow-op at one point
 
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