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(TMZ)   In an attempt to emphasize his Latino heritage, Charlie Sheen will be billed as Carlos Estevez in Machete Kills   (tmz.com) divider line 51
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2013-05-23 11:12:47 PM
The two characters I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing:

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2013-05-23 11:14:01 PM
Duh, ganando!
 
2013-05-24 12:06:56 AM
Especially when it's going to be spelled Estevez .
 
2013-05-24 12:12:45 AM
Carlos Estezez? Why not go with his real Mexican name, Carlos Estevez?
 
2013-05-24 12:15:37 AM

Apos: The two characters I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing:


Holy crap. Alex Vega grew up nice
 
2013-05-24 12:29:46 AM
Way to blow the spelling of his real name, subby.

As has been pointed out several times already.

/piling on
 
ecl
2013-05-24 12:31:18 AM

spcMike: Apos: The two characters I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing:

Holy crap. Alex Vega grew up nice


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-24 12:34:11 AM
filmfanatic.org
 
2013-05-24 12:34:28 AM
Turn out the lights, another career is over.

//if you have to resort to stunts like this... nuh uh, the end
 
2013-05-24 12:35:18 AM

Apos: The two characters I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing:

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i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-05-24 12:45:19 AM
¡ Ganando !
 
2013-05-24 12:57:35 AM
That's a lot of Z's
www.artofthemix.org
 
2013-05-24 01:03:04 AM
You mean Carlito Estezezezez, Subby?
 
2013-05-24 01:19:18 AM
Is Este zez Spanish slang for Dat ass?
 
2013-05-24 01:51:15 AM

spcMike: Apos: The two characters I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing:

Holy crap. Alex Vega grew up nice


Isn't she playing her same character from Spy Kids?
 
2013-05-24 01:53:07 AM
I think his rampant cocaine use is a better emphasis.
 
2013-05-24 01:53:56 AM
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Who?
 
2013-05-24 01:57:24 AM

raptusregaliter: Turn out the lights, another career is over.

//if you have to resort to stunts like this... nuh uh, the end


It's not a "stunt", look at the screen grab... At least it's not a stunt on Sheen's part.

"Introducing"? Obviously it's part of the 'feel' of the movie, they're pretending like he's a brand new actor in his first role, kind of goes hand in hand with the thing Rodriguez and tarantino were going for when they made the Grindhouse movies, which led to Machete, and on to this...

Sheen may have already flushed his career, but this isn't the kind of stunt you think it is.
 
2013-05-24 02:08:52 AM
Has anyone pointed out that both subby and the modmin that greened this cannot read or check names ?
 
2013-05-24 02:22:27 AM
Meh. Carlos Estevez is actually his name. Can't get too worked up about it.
 
2013-05-24 02:28:50 AM
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/Obscure?
 
2013-05-24 02:32:59 AM

raptusregaliter: Turn out the lights, another career is over.

//if you have to resort to stunts like this... nuh uh, the end


Did you just hear a really loud *whoosh* over the top of your head?
 
2013-05-24 02:45:25 AM

Gyrfalcon: [img.photobucket.com image 400x307]

Who?


The Soooooooooooooultaker!
 
2013-05-24 03:49:12 AM
assets0.ordienetworks.com
 
2013-05-24 04:08:01 AM

Apos: The two characters I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing:

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Lady Gaga and Vanessa Hudgens also have roles.

YMMV, especially about the first one, but personally I'm stoked about both of them appearing.
 
2013-05-24 04:14:37 AM
I don't know... the name Carlos Estevez brings to mind some kind of coked-out, smooth talking yet borderline crazy guy, out of control and drunk with power and celebrity. Why would Charlie Sheen want to present himself in that kind of light?
 
2013-05-24 05:09:36 AM
I should change my name to El Tago Farko de la Florida for this film
 
2013-05-24 05:20:10 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Apos: The two characters I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing:

[wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 810x1193]

[i2.asntown.net image 600x602]

Lady Gaga and Vanessa Hudgens also have roles.

YMMV, especially about the first one, but personally I'm stoked about both of them appearing.


I'm not too fond of Ms. Germanotta, but Vanessa is sexy, duck lips and all.
 
2013-05-24 06:38:50 AM

hundreddollarman: [i4.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/Obscure?


There are so many Hispanic actors in Hollywood out there who don't fit the stereotype so they never get to play "Hispanic" roles because some big wig believes that no one would believe they are Hispanic. And, strange enough, I believe they are right in this instance. If you had a Latina role opened for a movie and Carmen Diaz played her, there would be people complaining that Diaz is too "white" for the role and the part should have gone to someone who was more "traditional Hispanic." Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

This is the reason why Gina Torres always plays African-American roles rather than Hispanic roles despite being Cuban. She doesn't fit the stereotype.
 
2013-05-24 06:42:41 AM
This means we already had an Hispanic President .

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mhd
2013-05-24 07:16:34 AM
This is still making my poor European brain hurt: So his grandfather was Spanish and his ancestry never included "Latin America", but he's (partly) Latino? "Hispanic", I'd understand...
 
2013-05-24 07:52:31 AM

mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.


I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.
 
2013-05-24 08:13:17 AM

hundreddollarman: [i4.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/Obscure?


Emilio is the only member of the Breakfast Club not to appear on Psych. This must be remedied.
 
2013-05-24 08:17:39 AM

t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.


Well, as a mixed Hispanic myself, (Irish-Puerto Rican, in fact.) I prefer that term to "Latina" which makes me feel like I should be walking around with a toga and an olive wreath in my hair.
 
2013-05-24 08:31:11 AM

mekki: t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.

Well, as a mixed Hispanic myself, (Irish-Puerto Rican, in fact.) I prefer that term to "Latina" which makes me feel like I should be walking around with a toga and an olive wreath in my hair.


Being a white guy, I really don't know what is the correct terms are; it seems they vary between Latino/Latina and Hispanic depending on who you ask.  In my mind the distinction that you make above (New World heritage = Latino/Latina, Old World heritiage = HIspanic), makes some sense.  However, I have noticed here in Texas that the more common term is Hispanic.  When I go to California for work, the term of choice seems to be more commonly Latino.
 
2013-05-24 09:04:23 AM

t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.


Was it Kierkegarrd or Dick Van Patten who said 'When you label me, you negate me'?
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2013-05-24 09:25:31 AM
Now he is winning in Mexico.
 
2013-05-24 09:50:22 AM

hundreddollarman: [i4.ytimg.com image 480x360]

/Obscure?


Brilliant on multiple levels.

/internet high five
 
2013-05-24 10:07:48 AM

RyansPrivates: mekki: t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.

Well, as a mixed Hispanic myself, (Irish-Puerto Rican, in fact.) I prefer that term to "Latina" which makes me feel like I should be walking around with a toga and an olive wreath in my hair.

Being a white guy, I really don't know what is the correct terms are; it seems they vary between Latino/Latina and Hispanic depending on who you ask.  In my mind the distinction that you make above (New World heritage = Latino/Latina, Old World heritiage = HIspanic), makes some sense.  However, I have noticed here in Texas that the more common term is Hispanic.  When I go to California for work, the term of choice seems to be more commonly Latino.


Call a woman a Latino. Call a man a Latina. And if you address a group, you better make damn sure there isn't one guy among them before you use the word Latina.

Gender in all languages--German has it too--is just an insult. It needs to go.
 
2013-05-24 10:45:14 AM

t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.


That isn't really true for Native American though. It's at least as relevant a term from a human population descent point of view as European or Asian. A huge diversity of cultures but they do share a relationship of population movement in to North America. Of course it happened more than 10,000 years ago.

Of course as a geneticist witha background I also despise the word caucasian to refer to people of european descent. Caucasian refers to a specific group of people descended from people who lived in the Caucasus mountains...
 
2013-05-24 11:23:15 AM

t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.


Whites? You mean Scots-Irish? German? Norwegian? My uncle used to pronounce 'creek' KRIK. It was a Scottish thing. The Germans down the street never did that. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between Scots-Irish, Italians, Swedes, and so on are trivial compared to the fact that they're not black or 'Hispanic'.
 
2013-05-24 11:25:00 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: RyansPrivates: mekki: t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.

Well, as a mixed Hispanic myself, (Irish-Puerto Rican, in fact.) I prefer that term to "Latina" which makes me feel like I should be walking around with a toga and an olive wreath in my hair.

Being a white guy, I really don't know what is the correct terms are; it seems they vary between Latino/Latina and Hispanic depending on who you ask.  In my mind the distinction that you make above (New World heritage = Latino/Latina, Old World heritiage = HIspanic), makes some sense.  However, I have noticed here in Texas that the more common term is Hispanic.  When I go to California for work, the term of choice seems to be more commonly Latino.

Call a woman a Latino. Call a man a Latina. And if you address a group, you better make damn sure there isn't one guy among them before you use the word Latina.

Gender in all languages--German has it too--is just an insult. It needs to go.

 
aware of the gender thing (thank you high school French), I was just wondering more about Latino/Latina vs. Hispanic.
 
2013-05-24 11:47:22 AM

RyansPrivates: TheShavingofOccam123: RyansPrivates: mekki: t3knomanser: mekki: Which they mean, indigenous New World looking Latino rather than Old World from Spain looking Hispanic.

I've always felt that labels like "Hispanic" or "Native American" are pretty offensive. You're slamming together a variety of cultures into one easy-to-parse label, which has no real relationship. It's like one is suggesting that the distinctions between the Iroquois and the Sioux , or between Puerto Ricans and Mexicans, are trivial compared to the fact that they're not anglophonic whites.

Well, as a mixed Hispanic myself, (Irish-Puerto Rican, in fact.) I prefer that term to "Latina" which makes me feel like I should be walking around with a toga and an olive wreath in my hair.

Being a white guy, I really don't know what is the correct terms are; it seems they vary between Latino/Latina and Hispanic depending on who you ask.  In my mind the distinction that you make above (New World heritage = Latino/Latina, Old World heritiage = HIspanic), makes some sense.  However, I have noticed here in Texas that the more common term is Hispanic.  When I go to California for work, the term of choice seems to be more commonly Latino.

Call a woman a Latino. Call a man a Latina. And if you address a group, you better make damn sure there isn't one guy among them before you use the word Latina.

Gender in all languages--German has it too--is just an insult. It needs to go.
 
aware of the gender thing (thank you high school French), I was just wondering more about Latino/Latina vs. Hispanic.


I can't imagine what it would be like to be woman dedicated to removing sexism in today's society such that she would spend  10 years earning everything up through post-graduate degrees, getting a job with some national or international organization, and looking down at her business card at her organization's name starting with "Le" or "El" or "La" or "Der" or "Die". I just don't understand how gender can be justified today. If we can get rid of offensive words, we can get rid of offensive constructions.
 
2013-05-24 11:56:27 AM
Why? He's never felt the need to emphasize it before....
 
2013-05-24 12:26:06 PM

RyansPrivates: Being a white guy, I really don't know what is the correct terms are; it seems they vary between Latino/Latina and Hispanic depending on who you ask.  In my mind the distinction that you make above (New World heritage = Latino/Latina, Old World heritiage = HIspanic), makes some sense.  However, I have noticed here in Texas that the more common term is Hispanic.  When I go to California for work, the term of choice seems to be more commonly Latino.


It also gets to be more fun when the family has been in Texas since it was a Spanish or Mexican holding.

people who have obvious indigenous heritage with Spanish last names who consider themselves white, and speak no Spanish

Also, as a side not I have friends who are from Mexico, and have a Slavic last name , they also have no discernible accent

it gets kind of funny down here near the border
 
2013-05-24 12:48:58 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I can't imagine what it would be like to be woman dedicated to removing sexism in today's society such that she would spend  10 years earning everything up through post-graduate degrees, getting a job with some national or international organization, and looking down at her business card at her organization's name starting with "Le" or "El" or "La" or "Der" or "Die". I just don't understand how gender can be justified today. If we can get rid of offensive words, we can get rid of offensive constructions.


You're being waaaay too pissy about this stuff. No, gender in language is not an insult or offensive. Deal with it.
 
2013-05-24 12:52:33 PM
Two movies I'm looking forward to
Machete 2
FDR; American Baddass 2

What, they're not making FDRAB2? What the bloody fart hell for? His cawk still works!
 
2013-05-24 02:42:23 PM
hundreddollarman:
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/Obscure?


Trivia:  James Roday is, in fact, half Mexican (well, his father was Tex-Mex).
 
2013-05-24 03:31:02 PM
The flip side of gender in languages--why doesn't English have gender--is interesting. Anglo Saxon had all three genders with articles, etc. Modern English uses the masculine definite article from Anglo Saxon for all nouns. Doodoodledeedooodooo. About the only vestige is "that" which was various forms of the neuter gender.

So maybe English doesn't have gender due to misogyny rather than enlightenment.
 
2013-05-24 05:04:04 PM

mikemoto: Duh, ganando!


Y tambien usted esta un ganador, senor. Estoy riendo.
 
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