MayoSlather: The fark fatty brigade to the rescue, replete with an anecdotal arsenal of tales that ignore most of reality. Kids often choose where to eat and market research is well aware of this fact, otherwise they wouldn't bother directing advertising at kids.Regardless of how much this girl was coached, she is correct. McDonalds heavily focuses their advertising efforts on children knowing full well that kids will beg their parents to go. And knowing that kids know little about nutrition or the addictive qualities of fatty foods, they're confident kids will roundly ignore the fact the food has little nutritional value.
optikeye: they used to be cooked in Beef Tallow oil--a small portion make you feel full; now they're 'healthy oil' but you want more to fill full).
udhq: Jument: The free market says that the public wants disgustingly unhealthy fast food. Shouldn't they be allowed to have it?No, the free market doesn't say that the public wants disgustingly unhealthy fast food.When kids do something (like eat at McDonalds) because they've been conditioned with 15,000 incomplete, misleading sales pitches per day since birth, that isn't a "free market".In order to have a "free market", consumers must have access to all the information necessary to make their decision. That means:a), either companies need to stop targeting children with advertising, or else schools need to teach kids how to intelligently "consume" those 15,000 commercial messages per day they are exposed to.b), all these ads need to be required to TELL THE TRUTH, and by that I mean the WHOLE truth; there needs to be a message attached to each ad stating that this food is not safe to consume more than once a month or so, or else a message stating that when used as directed, this food will cause obesity, diabetes, heart disease and early death.
werty789: Why dose this Nutritional Activist open a restaurant that serves healtghy foods to compete with McDonald's? That is the American way. I would eat there if the food tasted good and the prices were reasonable.
clovercat: Well go ahead and eat there. They serve healthy food.[static2.businessinsider.com image 400x300]
AverageAmericanGuy: With all due respect to this lady and her daughter, why was a child allowed into the annual shareholders meeting?
Richard C Stanford: Great Janitor: Hmmm...I've never seen anyone ever at McDonalds because the company forced them into their building. I'm not sure "forces" is the right word.Yesterday I was on break with a 17 year old male coworker who was telling me how I could have gotten a healthier lunch option than Jack in the Box. I told him "Look, I'm only going to be on this Earth for one lifetime. So I have maybe a century to enjoy all I can from it. Now, which option sounds better, bland healthy meals with water diet and exercise and a 100 year life span, or Jack in the Box and a soda for the occasional meal, cigars, booze, exercise that is not much more than sleeping around and running away from the angry husbands of the cheating wives you bedded and a life span of much less than 100 years." He said, "But you'll live longer not living life as a hedonistic ass." I said "True, but I'm enjoying my life, my wife doesn't know when I get off from work and don't you have an older sister?"Whatever fatass. In my opinion, we should round up all the hover round riding fatsos and convert them into a nutritional food like substance to distribute to third world countries.
Lsherm: No one wants healthy fast food. If they did, then your local wheatgrass smoothie chain would be nationwide and making billions. If McDonald's changed to "Broccoli R Us" they'd be out of business in a year. That isn't their fault, it's our fault.
udhq: 15,000 times a day
Nabb1: I don't like McDonald's for my kids, either. That's why it's only a special treat and not a regular thing for them. I'm just not sanctimonious about it, nor do I blame McDonald's for forcing the occasional indulgence upon me.
udhq: Hexsun: Because when you walked into McDonalds, you made the choice. You chose to eat the horrible, unhealthy food therefore you are "personally responsible" for the consequences. McDonalds "personal responsibility" falls to their bottom line. If they didn't make food people wanted, they would be out of business. Their responsibility ends with producing food that complies with the law and telling me what's inside it. It really is that simple. Afte that, the ball is in my court.You would have a point if we were talking about eating habits in general, but we're not. We're talking about a very specific transaction that involves 2 parties, each making the decision to participate of their own free will.I'm not arguing in favor of stripping anyone of the freedom to make that choice or the consequence of that choice. You are, for some reason. You seem like a pretty reasonable and intelligent guy, especially in contrast to your little friend here, but it sounds like you're maybe not the libertarian you think you are.
udhq: Hexsun: First, you clearly don't understand what a free market system is, so your points are inherently invalid, but even if they weren't:a) What you fail to accept is that it is not McDonald's job to police what you eat. It's their job to provide a product people want and to sell that product the best they can within the bounds of the law. Any social responsibility a company takes beyond that is optional and really just another angle at increasing their bottom line. Typically, large companies become more socially responsible because they have to, they're trying to capitalize on the current market, or maybe lure in more investors. There are plenty of reasons, but none of them are because they really care about you. McDonalds offering healthier options was designed to pull in more customers, particularly the goldenmillennial market. McDonalds isnot responsible for raising your children. Neither is any other business, not even public schools. If you can't handle that, then don't have children.Look, when you choose to walk into a McDonalds and buy a burger, there are 2 parties choosing to enter into a transaction that is (at least presumably) mutually beneficial. Why on Earth shouldn't those 2 parties share equally in the consequences of that transaction? Why should "personal responsibility" only apply to one of the parties?Why should being under the umbrella of an almost omnipotently powerful billion-dollar corporation absolve one from all personal responsibility for one's actions and choices?No one is FORCING McDonalds to make money by selling you a burger. So why the need to protect them from their responsibility for choosing to participate in that transaction???It seems that if people here were REALLY in favor of libertarian-style freedom, they wouldn't feel the need shield McDonalds from the consequences of their choices.
udhq: That's pretty much the definition of wealthy adults trying to brainwash children into consuming slop that will take years off their lives when used as directed.
Rapmaster2000: [www.washingtonpost.com image 600x530]Not that I'm blaming McDonald's for this. They're just giving you fatties what you want. It's smart business.
poot_rootbeer: udhq: I'm not, but I can't speak for the millions of 3-5 year olds that will sit through dozens of McDonalds ads tomorrow during Saturday morning cartoons without possessing the cognitive tools to know that they are being flat-out lied to.No one is forced to watch Saturday morning cartoons, either./also, what is a Saturday morning cartoon? How old are you?
udhq: All 3 of the above statements could also be used to defend the man driving around in the white "free candy" cargo van.
udhq: GoldSpider: udhq: You don't really have free will if one side is allowed to bombard the other side with 15,000 lies per day from birth.You sound meek, and easily manipulated.I'm not, but I can't speak for the millions of 3-5 year olds that will sit through dozens of McDonalds ads tomorrow during Saturday morning cartoons without possessing the cognitive tools to know that they are being flat-out lied to.
wyltoknow: It sort of scares me how complacent people are in regards to blatant manipulation by advertisers.
udhq: The so-called "libertarian" asshats who want to jump down this girl's throat MAY have a point once McDonalds stops advertising to children.That is all.
ShawnDoc: I hate people that insist on forcing their kids to get involved in political issues that the kids are too young to understand.
Ilmarinen: sendtodave: Fark can be so schizophrenic, I swear.One day it's mocking lard-butts, the next it's championing personal choice.You can eat at McDonald's without becoming a lard-butt, you know (I still think it's a dumb personal choice).And you are clueless about the meaning of schizophrenic.
GreenAdder: It's true. Don Thompson showed up at my door just the other day. He said he was going to robble the place. I suspected that he was going to try to sell me encyclopedias instead, so I wouldn't let him in. When I assured that he was just going to robble robble, I relented. Instead, for the next five hours, he tied me to a chair and played Ludwig Von Beethoven while shoving hamburgers into my gob. It was like "A Clockwork Orange," but with sesame seeds.After the fifth hour, he stopped and growled at me. "Where are your kids?!"When I informed him my wife and I had no children, he howled with rage and kicked over my television. Then he suddenly became placid and docile, untying me and helping me to my feet."I'm terribly sorry," he offered. "I only forcefeed children. I had assumed you had kids. Is this [address redacted]?]"Spitting out a pickle slice, I shook my head. I felt like I was going to throw up. "No. That's... that's three blocks over.""Damn," he said, lighting up a cigarette. I don't usually allow smoking in my place, but this time I didn't say anything. I was partially afraid he'd get riled up again, and I also kind of felt sorry for him."It's these parents. They don't realize they can just tell their little booger-biters, 'no, I'm not taking you to McDonald's.' So I have to find one or two kids in each neighborhood and fatten them up a bit."Between between deep breaths, I uttered, "Uh... and this gets the other parents to say 'no?'"He laughed. His spirits were suddenly up. "Quite the contrary, my now-rotund friend. It gets them to say yes. Their kids don't want to be the only ones on the block without a tummy full of my fatty foods. Profits are up. But do you know something? I don't do it for the profit. I don't do it because I hate kids. I do it for world peace."Even though I was getting nauseous enough to ruin his hush-puppies with recycled McFood, I mustered the energy to look inquisitive."Oh, everyone always gives me that look," he lau ...
Great Janitor: Richard C Stanford: Great Janitor: Hmmm...I've never seen anyone ever at McDonalds because the company forced them into their building. I'm not sure "forces" is the right word.Yesterday I was on break with a 17 year old male coworker who was telling me how I could have gotten a healthier lunch option than Jack in the Box. I told him "Look, I'm only going to be on this Earth for one lifetime. So I have maybe a century to enjoy all I can from it. Now, which option sounds better, bland healthy meals with water diet and exercise and a 100 year life span, or Jack in the Box and a soda for the occasional meal, cigars, booze, exercise that is not much more than sleeping around and running away from the angry husbands of the cheating wives you bedded and a life span of much less than 100 years." He said, "But you'll live longer not living life as a hedonistic ass." I said "True, but I'm enjoying my life, my wife doesn't know when I get off from work and don't you have an older sister?"Whatever fatass. In my opinion, we should round up all the hover round riding fatsos and convert them into a nutritional food like substance to distribute to third world countries.Wow, mass murder and cannibalism, for those guilty of the crime of being fat. Please, just stop talking, there really isn't any way I can respect you any less.
PapaChester: I read about this. I hate these kinds of people. Don't like the food? Then don't eat there! Your kids want to go but you don't want them to? Say no, idiot!This is the mother farking U.S.A.. No one is forcing you stupid adults to eat at McDonaldsThe fact that they have cheap and healthy options makes these people look even more foolish. Good for the CEO, standing up for his company."McDonalds is the place to rock."W. Willis
AverageAmericanGuy: mike_d85: AverageAmericanGuy: With all due respect to this lady and her daughter, why was a child allowed into the annual shareholders meeting?They own McDonalds stock.Can a child own stock?
sendtodave: Fark can be so schizophrenic, I swear.One day it's mocking lard-butts, the next it's championing personal choice.
Pugdaddyk: Choices...how do they farking work?
MayoSlather: Kids often choose where to eat and market research is well aware of this fact
FirstNationalBastard: TuteTibiImperes: There are some people who won't be happy until fast food restaurants have to pay for ads showing obese people talking about all of the medical problems that their overindulgence led to, similar to what tobacco companies have to do now.Good. I'd also like to see fast food hit with astronomical taxes, like cigarettes have been.
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