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(Huffington Post)   Kim Jong Un: Relatives of traitors should automatically be punished, without trial. And by 'Kim Jong Un', we mean 'Tom Cotton (R-Ark)'. Bonus: He's on the foreign affairs committee   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 153
    More: Scary, Tom Cotton, sanctions against Iran, House Foreign Affairs Committee, Iran, political dissidents, Idaho State, Fifth Amendment, Sam Brownback  
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2013-05-23 01:16:30 PM  
What a dick
 
2013-05-23 01:18:56 PM  
Well that's certainly Constitutional.

And bad news for the Cheney family.
 
2013-05-23 01:23:28 PM  
I know he withdrew it, but jesus fark.
 
2013-05-23 01:28:38 PM  
This would never fly because the only people violating sanctions against Iran are wealthy white men.
 
2013-05-23 01:38:26 PM  

Diogenes: Well that's certainly Constitutional.


Of course it is, I mean, they read it on the floor of the House fer chrissake!  They would know!
 
2013-05-23 01:41:32 PM  
The linked article in the sidebar is unusually relevant:

"People Getting Dumber? Human Intelligence Has Declined Since Victorian Era, Research Suggests"
 
2013-05-23 01:41:57 PM  
Does he also find that baseborn children are less trustworthy than trueborn ones?
 
2013-05-23 01:53:42 PM  
Several members of the Foreign Affairs Committee acknowledged that stashing assets with family members can be a problem.

wat

If we know the "prime malefactor" (dibs on the band name) family member stashed cash with Sonny-Boy, can't we nab Sonny as an accomplice? Don't we have RICO? Couldn't we still charge his bank account with "Conspiracy to Sell Whiskey to an Iranian" or whatever?
 
2013-05-23 02:08:39 PM  
I understand the concern he had, and I think it's a valid one, but man, this was a terrible idea on how to address it.
 
2013-05-23 02:10:06 PM  
Tom Cotton is a graduate of Harvard Law School and one of his areas of private practice was constitutional law. What the living f*ck.
 
2013-05-23 02:11:51 PM  
You know, I'm not as smart  or as knowledgeable about the constitution as a Congressman, obviously. But I seem to remember something about bills of attainder....

I must be misremembering...
 
2013-05-23 02:13:48 PM  
OK, which one of your Arkansasians picked Cotton?
 
2013-05-23 02:15:14 PM  
Personally, I think Tom Cotton's estate should go back to the crown and his minor children should have their wardship sold to the highest bidder.

I've heard he has a 10 year old daughter. I would dower her well.
 
2013-05-23 02:21:21 PM  
I am pretty certain the law already allows for the clawing back of moneys from illegal activities, no matter who they were given to,
 
2013-05-23 02:22:47 PM  
Wow.  It's not often that you see evidence of actual, tangible evil being put forward on the House floor.  Stupidity?  All the time.  Ignorance?  Ditto.  But an actually, truly evil suggestion being put forth as something to be considered within our laws.  I mean, sure, DECADES ago -- segregation, overt institutional racism, etc.  But holy crap.  This is going to make the world press and it's going to be taken as NORMAL for us.
Arkansas, you really want to loudly repudiate this asshat, and then primary him the first chance you get.
 
2013-05-23 02:24:33 PM  
Made me think about them extending this out, and the FBI storming the set of WGN news to pick up Tom Skilling during a weather segment because of his brother's transgressions.
 
2013-05-23 02:25:31 PM  

dahmers love zombie: It's not often that you see evidence of actual, tangible evil being put forward on the House floor.


I question that statement. The rest I agree with.
 
2013-05-23 02:27:59 PM  

kronicfeld: Tom Cotton is a graduate of Harvard Law School and one of his areas of private practice was constitutional law. What the living f*ck.


Meh.  You know how those "constitutional law scholars" out of Harvard are.  Can't trust a damned thing they say, you know?
 
2013-05-23 02:32:05 PM  
Let's remind this guy we didn't even hang Jefferson Davis.
 
2013-05-23 02:33:51 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: OK, which one of your Arkansasians picked Cotton?


tweren't me.
 
2013-05-23 02:34:11 PM  
I have thought about a similar concept with sex offenders.

Shunning the family in the community would destroy a family, hence making destruction of their own family the result of a sexual assault conviction. As we humans are social animals, there would be significant motivation to ensure that something like that doesnt happen.

Sex offenders might not care about the victims families, but they might care about their own.
 
2013-05-23 02:36:02 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: OK, which one of your Arkansasians picked Cotton?


I think this thread now needs some Lead Belly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd5ViH_5598

Oh, Lordy...
 
2013-05-23 02:39:12 PM  
Why not punish their representative instead?
 
2013-05-23 02:40:08 PM  
Well, it was a bad idea, and they talked it out, a member of his party and a member of the Democrats talked him into withdrawing it after a discussion on the Constitutional issues.  Isn't this how it's supposed to work?
 
2013-05-23 02:48:39 PM  
This includes the families of bankers laundering Iranian cash, right?
 
2013-05-23 02:49:57 PM  

Nabb1: Well, it was a bad idea, and they talked it out, a member of his party and a member of the Democrats talked him into withdrawing it after a discussion on the Constitutional issues.  Isn't this how it's supposed to work?


Yes, the system proved itself useful, but holy crap that is some straight-up Draconian talk out of the man.  Maybe HuffPo's edits made it seem worse out of context, but his automatic dismissal of all Iranians as evildoers is troubling.
 
2013-05-23 02:52:27 PM  

cman: I have thought about a similar concept with sex offenders.

Shunning the family in the community would destroy a family, hence making destruction of their own family the result of a sexual assault conviction. As we humans are social animals, there would be significant motivation to ensure that something like that doesnt happen.

Sex offenders might not care about the victims families, but they might care about their own.


We could hold their neighbors responsible as well.  Why not the whole town while we're at it.
 
2013-05-23 02:52:55 PM  
Step 1) Find everyone in Cotton's family out to the third degree who had ever been arrested for any crime ever.
Step 2) Go to a press conference held by Cotton, present your evidence and ask when he will surrender himself to the local police
Step 3) Find out which defense he goes with, IOKIYAR or ISRAEL!

Because out of "parents, children, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, grandparents, great grandparents, grandkids, great grandkids" , you know you can find at least one conviction for both drunk driving AND marijuana possession.
 
2013-05-23 02:54:04 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: cman: I have thought about a similar concept with sex offenders.

Shunning the family in the community would destroy a family, hence making destruction of their own family the result of a sexual assault conviction. As we humans are social animals, there would be significant motivation to ensure that something like that doesnt happen.

Sex offenders might not care about the victims families, but they might care about their own.

We could hold their neighbors responsible as well.  Why not the whole town while we're at it.


Nuke his entire district from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure such blatant unconstitutionality is destroyed.
 
2013-05-23 02:56:38 PM  

what_now: You know, I'm not as smart  or as knowledgeable about the constitution as a Congressman, obviously. But I seem to remember something about bills of attainder....

I must be misremembering...


when is the last time you read the constitution aloud, hmmm???
 
2013-05-23 02:57:01 PM  
So can we throw Nancy Reagan in prison?
 
2013-05-23 02:57:34 PM  

Diogenes: Well that's certainly Constitutional.

And bad news for the Cheney Obama family.


FTFY
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2013-05-23 02:59:03 PM  
How about a law which forbids family members of congressmen out to the third degree from trading stocks based on insider information......k/dar
 
2013-05-23 03:23:19 PM  
WTF is this? Is this what a 19th century porn star looks like?


i.huffpost.com
 
2013-05-23 03:25:02 PM  
What's the thing where you suggest something balls-out crazy and then dial it back to only batshiat crazy so that people will think the batshiat idea is "better" somehow? There's a term for that.

Also, North Korea does have a similar policy. I'm not sure how bad the crime has to be, but they will imprison a man for life, along with his entire family, for 3 generations.
 
2013-05-23 03:27:40 PM  

Nabb1: Well, it was a bad idea, and they talked it out, a member of his party and a member of the Democrats talked him into withdrawing it after a discussion on the Constitutional issues.  Isn't this how it's supposed to work?


Yes.

But it is also kind of unsettling that someone would introduce a bill like this at all. The options are a) he didn't think it through, it was a kneejerk, b) he didn't care and just hoped everyone else would think it through, or c) he didn't write it at all, was just doing what he was told. None of those are comforting on any level of government. On THAT level, they're all disturbing.
 
2013-05-23 03:31:30 PM  

Mugato: WTF is this? Is this what a 19th century porn star looks like?

[i.huffpost.com image 675x900]


I dunno but that knot on his tie is pretty unbelievable.
 
2013-05-23 03:32:50 PM  

Mugato: WTF is this? Is this what a 19th century porn star looks like?


[i.huffpost.com image 675x900]


He needs a bucket of confetti.

www.latimes.com
 
2013-05-23 03:33:47 PM  

Mugato: WTF is this? Is this what a 19th century porn star looks like?


[i.huffpost.com image 675x900]


2.bp.blogspot.com

Rip Taylor went into politics?
 
2013-05-23 03:36:23 PM  

kronicfeld: Tom Cotton is a graduate of Harvard Law School and one of his areas of private practice was constitutional law. What the living f*ck.


Well, technically, the Constitution only seems to directly forbid corruption of blood as punishment for Treason, but not as punishment for (say) counterfeiting.
 
2013-05-23 03:42:28 PM  

Di Atribe: What's the thing where you suggest something balls-out crazy and then dial it back to only batshiat crazy so that people will think the batshiat idea is "better" somehow? There's a term for that.

Also, North Korea does have a similar policy. I'm not sure how bad the crime has to be, but they will imprison a man for life, along with his entire family, for 3 generations.


So, when a kid is born in prison they build a smaller prison inside the prison?
 
2013-05-23 03:44:00 PM  
The more politicians I read about, the less impressed I am with law degrees from Ivy League schools. I think I'd be more confident voting for a DeVry Lawnmower Academy aluminist.
 
2013-05-23 03:53:44 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Di Atribe: What's the thing where you suggest something balls-out crazy and then dial it back to only batshiat crazy so that people will think the batshiat idea is "better" somehow? There's a term for that.

Also, North Korea does have a similar policy. I'm not sure how bad the crime has to be, but they will imprison a man for life, along with his entire family, for 3 generations.

So, when a kid is born in prison they build a smaller prison inside the prison?


static.tvtropes.org

/I know.  Old meme is old, but first thing I thought of.
 
2013-05-23 04:02:22 PM  

Felgraf: I know he withdrew it, but jesus fark.


This what really frightens me:
Iranian citizens do not have constitutional rights under the United States Constitution," Cotton said. "I sympathize with their plight if they are harmless, innocent civilians in Iran. I doubt that that is often the case."

And even if that were true, which we shall see in a moment it's not, aren't our constittuional rights aspirational? what we consider the model for basic standards of due process for the whole world?

but even more troubling:
The Fifth Amendment reads "no person ... shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law," and makes no distinctions regarding citizenship. In Wong Wing v. United States, the Supreme Court found that noncitizens charged with crimes are protected by the Fifth Amendment, along with the Sixth and 14th Amendments. The case was decided in 1896.

Now the idea that Congressman Hayseed is a dumbass is neither new or frightening to me, but what happeend to all the institutional safeguards we used to build around such idiots?  Isn't that why Congressional staffs exist?  So people with actual KNOWLEDGE of how government and laws work can insulate an idiot like this and keep him from doing something stupid in public?
 
2013-05-23 04:02:25 PM  
Joffrey Baratheon needs more heads?
 
2013-05-23 04:04:59 PM  

Magorn: So people with actual KNOWLEDGE of how government and laws work can insulate an idiot like this and keep him from doing something stupid in public?


This guy is a lawyer with con law as one of his professional specialties.  Think about that sh*t for a minute.

Now weep!
 
2013-05-23 04:05:16 PM  
Good let's start by imprisoning the entire South for treasonous and seditious acts against the Union.
 
2013-05-23 04:05:45 PM  

Di Atribe: What's the thing where you suggest something balls-out crazy and then dial it back to only batshiat crazy so that people will think the batshiat idea is "better" somehow? There's a term for that.

Also, North Korea does have a similar policy. I'm not sure how bad the crime has to be, but they will imprison a man for life, along with his entire family, for 3 generations.


This punishment is also known as "Living in North Korea."

/They don't stop at 3 generations, that's just how many they've done this with so far.
 
2013-05-23 04:06:31 PM  
We need some sort of automatic firing process for elected officials. This deserves a f*cking firing.
 
2013-05-23 04:07:45 PM  

PsiChick: This deserves a f*cking firing.


out of a cannon into the sun...
 
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