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2013-05-23 10:54:02 AM
why doesn't fark have a douche bag tag?
 
2013-05-23 11:00:04 AM
GOP definition of "Freedom of religion":

You're free to worship Jesus just like the rest of us.
 
2013-05-23 11:05:56 AM
Jesus lovers are assholes. Keep that shiat to yourself.
 
2013-05-23 11:05:57 AM
Can you imagine if your office had to have a daily prayer before everyone could get to work?
 
2013-05-23 11:07:50 AM

James!: Can you imagine if your office had to have a daily prayer before everyone could get to work?


The girl works in a medical office run by the Seventh-Day Adventists. They have a devotional every day. I could not work under those conditions.
 
2013-05-23 11:08:15 AM
"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

-Matthew 6:5-6 That Jesus fella, I wish he'd been more influential.
 
2013-05-23 11:09:22 AM

Confabulat: James!: Can you imagine if your office had to have a daily prayer before everyone could get to work?

The girl works in a medical office run by the Seventh-Day Adventists. They have a devotional every day. I could not work under those conditions.


I work for the Catholics and they only bother to hold a mass somewhere that I could attend if I wanted.  They don't mention it unless it's been rescheduled.
 
2013-05-23 11:12:21 AM
"sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people of our state."

And this douchebag felt this was so egregious, he had to call for a "do-over" and ask daddy for forgiveness for something someone else said?
 
2013-05-23 11:12:27 AM
He began his remarks by asking fellow lawmakers not to bow their heads but to instead look around at the other men and women in the room, "sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people of our state."

To find a problem in that you'd have to be a complete buttwipe.
 
2013-05-23 11:14:22 AM
80% of our great nation is horribly oppressed. Just ask them.
 
2013-05-23 11:14:23 AM

vudutek: GOP definition of "Freedom of religion":

You're free to worship Jesus just like the rest of us.


An Xtian Republican with his panties in a knot over someone else exercising their freedom. Color me surprised.
 
2013-05-23 11:18:27 AM
When will this oppression end?
 
2013-05-23 11:22:54 AM
Mendez gave the invocation Tuesday while members of the Secular Coalition for Arizona were in the visitors' gallery. He began his remarks by asking fellow lawmakers not to bow their heads but to instead look around at the other men and women in the room, "sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people of our state."

wow look how oppressed christians are

we shall over come
 
2013-05-23 11:22:58 AM

grokca: When will this oppression end?


When Morgoth the Destroyer assends the hills of Megado and makes war upon the forces of Gurth with his mighty hammer forged from the souls of children.  Or whatever it is Christians believe.
 
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2013-05-23 11:26:23 AM
This is why I think most "religion" is really politics.  It seems to be more about establishing dominance over someone than about God.
 
2013-05-23 11:27:46 AM

James!: grokca: When will this oppression end?

When Morgoth the Destroyer assends the hills of Megado and makes war upon the forces of Gurth with his mighty hammer forged from the souls of children.  Or whatever it is Christians believe.


Oooooo, something to look forward to.
 
2013-05-23 11:29:47 AM
I live in Oklahoma City. In the last 25 years I've worked for two companies. One a large multinational company with over 5000 employees world wide and one a locally owned company with about 180 employees. At both it's SOP to have a prayer (Christian, of course) before eating in any group setting. I've always wondered if that was normal or if it's "bible belt" thing.
 
2013-05-23 11:30:41 AM

James!: "When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

-Matthew 6:5-6 That Jesus fella, I wish he'd been more influential.


"Or, just be a complete douchebag about it." - Matthew 6:6.5 (Redacted from original translations)
 
2013-05-23 11:36:04 AM
If my dinner is blessed, why should the leftovers be re-blessed?
 
2013-05-23 11:37:47 AM
boo farking hoo
 
2013-05-23 11:45:25 AM
Even at this very moment there are millions of atheists out there that aren't praying.

This upsets him.
 
2013-05-23 11:47:02 AM

PreMortem: If my dinner is blessed, why should the leftovers be re-blessed?


How long have they been in the fridge?
 
2013-05-23 11:57:24 AM

PreMortem: If my dinner is blessed, why should the leftovers be re-blessed?


Couldn't you just bless all food at once, everywhere and into the future, with a single prayer? Then you wouldn't have to worry about forgetting one day and accidentally eating unholy food.
 
2013-05-23 12:08:09 PM
<i>"If you don't love this nation and want to pledge to it, don't say I want to lead this body in the pledge, and stand up there and say, 'you know what, instead of pledging, I love England' and (sit) down. </i>

Nice strawbloke.
 
2013-05-23 12:10:09 PM

Barfmaker: He began his remarks by asking fellow lawmakers not to bow their heads but to instead look around at the other men and women in the room, "sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people of our state."

To find a problem in that you'd have to be a complete buttwipe.


a.abcnews.com

You rang?
 
2013-05-23 12:19:49 PM

NightOwl2255: I live in Oklahoma City. In the last 25 years I've worked for two companies. One a large multinational company with over 5000 employees world wide and one a locally owned company with about 180 employees. At both it's SOP to have a prayer (Christian, of course) before eating in any group setting. I've always wondered if that was normal or if it's "bible belt" thing.


That is most assuredly not normal anyplace I've ever lived or worked, but I've never lived in the Bible Belt. I've never seen that.  There has been the odd (every sense of the word) fundie here or there who feels compelled to say grace before every meal, so they do it in a work group meal setting too, but they would do it alone and unobtrusively, by simple bowing their head and whispering a few words that nobody else could hear while everyone else went about their business.  Most people never even noticed it happening.
 
2013-05-23 12:23:07 PM
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farking freedom - how does that work?
 
2013-05-23 12:37:08 PM

Confabulat: James!: Can you imagine if your office had to have a daily prayer before everyone could get to work?

The girl works in a medical office run by the Seventh-Day Adventists. They have a devotional every day. I could not work under those conditions.


When I was much, much, MUCH younger, I worked in a sex toy shoppe. It was run by a guy who was heavily into EST. He required a weekly 'sharing' session with all employees (and not the fun kinda sharing one might expect in a sex toy shoppe in the 70s) and he required all store managers to actually attend EST training seminars. Sounds like the same thing. Except, after faking my way through 'sharing' I still got to hang out with perverts buying dildoes all day.
 
2013-05-23 12:51:06 PM
"When there's a time set aside to pray and to pledge, if you are a non-believer, don't ask for time to pray," said Smith, of Maricopa. "If you don't love this nation and want to pledge to it, don't say I want to lead this body in the pledge, and stand up there and say, 'you know what, instead of pledging, I love England' and (sit) down.

So his colleague's little deviation from the Jesus playbook is tantamount to disloyalty to America?

Downright insidious. I guess its nice to know where all these attempts to insert god into government are really based. In case there was any question.
 
2013-05-23 12:52:15 PM

Barfmaker: He began his remarks by asking fellow lawmakers not to bow their heads but to instead look around at the other men and women in the room, "sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people of our state."

To find a problem in that you'd have to be a complete buttwipe.


My daughter's hula halau starts every performance with an invocation calling for the spirit of Aloha and the honoring Hawaiian traditions. No doubt the aforementioned buttwipe would have a problem with that.
 
2013-05-23 12:56:20 PM
On Wednesday, Tobin said he had no problem with Mendez's prayer.

"From my perspective I didn't see an issue with Mr. Mendez yesterday," said Tobin, R-Paulden. "I can appreciate what Mr. Smith was saying, but I think all members are responsible for their own prayerful lives and I think the demonstration that we take moments for prayer we all do collectively and in our own hearts."


Although, to be fair, they aren't all extremists. This is a pretty balanced response.
 
2013-05-23 01:24:24 PM
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2013-05-23 01:33:20 PM
So would a Catholic legislator be allowed to do a Hail Mary and doom the souls of the evangelical legislators in the room for going along with Mary worship?
 
2013-05-23 01:37:57 PM

PreMortem: If my dinner is blessed, why should the leftovers be re-blessed?


Because microwaves are rarely called by their true name: Satan's Hot Boxes.
 
2013-05-23 01:44:26 PM
Imagine if the prayer was Islamic, Steve Smith would have flipped his sh*t.
 
2013-05-23 01:46:51 PM

sweetmelissa31: <i>"If you don't love this nation and want to pledge to it, don't say I want to lead this body in the pledge, and stand up there and say, 'you know what, instead of pledging, I love England' and (sit) down. </i>

Nice strawbloke.


Yeah, that was one of the stupidest things I've read today.
 
2013-05-23 01:48:14 PM

gilgigamesh: Although, to be fair, they aren't all extremists.


FTA: So he asked other members to join him in a second daily prayer in "repentance," and about half the 60-member body did so.

Indeed; only about half, by the sound of it. And I suppose some of those might merely be spineless rather than extremists.
 
2013-05-23 01:50:43 PM

miss diminutive: Satan's Hot Boxes


That would make a great name for a all-girl hair metal band.
 
2013-05-23 01:56:38 PM

gilgigamesh: miss diminutive: Satan's Hot Boxes

That would make a great name for a all-girl hair metal band.


hmm they could open for these ladies

www.lezzeppelin.com
 
2013-05-23 01:56:46 PM
Lord, hear our prayer:

Sanguis bibimus
Corpus edimus
Tolle corpus Satani
Ave, ave Versus Christus!
Ave Satani!
 
2013-05-23 01:57:57 PM

James!: Can you imagine if your office had to have a daily prayer before everyone could get to work?


We have before.

/I didn't care because I clocked in before the prayer
 
2013-05-23 01:59:20 PM
Congratulations, you just admitted that your intent is to break either the Establishment Clause, the Free Exercise Clause, or both, take your pick.
 
2013-05-23 01:59:54 PM

exick: "sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people of our state."

And this douchebag felt this was so egregious, he had to call for a "do-over" and ask daddy for forgiveness for something someone else said?


Yep.  Wouldn't it be great to perpetually feel like you're garbage just for existing?
 
2013-05-23 02:01:04 PM

Jackson Herring: gilgigamesh: miss diminutive: Satan's Hot Boxes

That would make a great name for a all-girl hair metal band.

hmm they could open for these ladies

[www.lezzeppelin.com image 850x310]


I actually saw them. They are pretty good, as far as Zeppelin tribute bands go
 
2013-05-23 02:02:41 PM
Yeah that atheist bastard wanted his fellow legislators to dedicate themselves to improving the lives of other people.

I swear if Jesus doesn't kick his ass, I will. Jesus wouldn't have put up with that shiat
 
2013-05-23 02:05:14 PM
What's the point of having a prayer of any sort before a legislative session?

I'm seriously asking.

Also, what's the point of a prayer before a meal or a football game?

Religion just seems silly to me.  But, I'm certainly interested in the reasons people have for adhering to it.
 
2013-05-23 02:05:31 PM
suck it up douchcup
 
2013-05-23 02:05:44 PM
There may be no better butthurt than religious butthurt.
 
2013-05-23 02:06:34 PM
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2013-05-23 02:06:51 PM
God only respects atheists because they actually use their free will.
 
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