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(WWL)   The 'stand your ground' defense doesn't work in Louisiana if you use a scoped rifle to shoot a stranger in the head just because they're laying in your neighbor's driveway   (wwl.com) divider line 64
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2013-05-23 10:25:31 AM  
Look, the rule is "Stand Your Ground".  There's no distance requirement there.
 
2013-05-23 10:26:34 AM  
I like that the Sheriff felt compelled to clarify why shooting someone in the head is generally going to be considered murder.
 
2013-05-23 10:30:51 AM  
There is no "stand your ground" law in Louisiana.  We have self-defense, just like everyone else.
 
2013-05-23 10:54:02 AM  
Additionally, Chouest admitted to smoking crack cocaine prior to the incident.

Wow... I already knew that crack kills but at such a range?  I learn something new every day.  Maybe the reason that the deceased wasn't forthcoming with Chouest about his itinerary is because he didn't feel comfortable talking to a crackety-cracked-up crackhead?
 
2013-05-23 11:06:56 AM  
What if they guy had been armed with tea and Skittles???
 
2013-05-23 11:15:18 AM  

clancifer: What if they guy had been armed with tea and Skittles???


No hoodie, no defense.
 
2013-05-23 11:30:50 AM  
Brian Peepers' younger brother's on the pipe again?
 
2013-05-23 11:31:39 AM  
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-23 11:31:59 AM  
But he was lying on the ground in a suspicious way...
 
2013-05-23 11:33:22 AM  
I hate mimes to but, I don't shoot them on sight.
 
2013-05-23 11:33:44 AM  
i.qkme.me
 
2013-05-23 11:35:01 AM  
No scope aimbotter
 
2013-05-23 11:36:05 AM  
Look at this devolved creature:

imgsrv.wwl.com


When this gets to court, the tabloids will call it the Scoped Monkey trial.
 
2013-05-23 11:36:37 AM  
Came for South Park reference, leaving before I'm shot in the head.
 
2013-05-23 11:37:33 AM  
It's "stand YOUR ground", not "stand your neighbor's ground".

It's also not "Adam & Steve".
 
2013-05-23 11:38:29 AM  

factoryconnection: Additionally, Chouest admitted to smoking crack cocaine prior to the incident.

Wow... I already knew that crack kills but at such a range?  I learn something new every day.  Maybe the reason that the deceased wasn't forthcoming with Chouest about his itinerary is because he didn't feel comfortable talking to a crackety-cracked-up crackhead?


*heh* Talk about a crack shot.
 
2013-05-23 11:38:46 AM  

Anayalator:


Debate is a generous label.
 
2013-05-23 11:39:44 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Look at this devolved creature:

[imgsrv.wwl.com image 320x240]


When this gets to court, the tabloids will call it the Scoped Monkey trial.


You  win!!
 
2013-05-23 11:40:22 AM  
Heh. That's why I live in Texas.

Pansies.
 
2013-05-23 11:40:49 AM  
"Chouest told detectives that he shot him because he did not know Galjour's intentions, but also admitted he felt Galjour posed no threat to him. Additionally, Chouest admitted to smoking crack cocaine prior to the incident."

Looks like its time to start drug testing gun owners.
 
2013-05-23 11:41:12 AM  
It's kind of sad that the article actually had to explain why he was being charged.
 
2013-05-23 11:43:58 AM  
Additionally, Chouest admitted to smoking crack cocaine prior to the incident."

...aaaaand we're done.
 
2013-05-23 11:45:20 AM  
This is my hometown neck of the woods, where very recently an actual tar and feathering of an interracial couple was closely headed off.

Irradiate it all.
 
2013-05-23 11:51:25 AM  
Crack

Guns

Headshots

Rednecks


This article has it all.

I guess getting drunk enough to pass out and then never waking up because some peice of trash put a bullet in your head isn't the worst way to go.
 
2013-05-23 11:54:14 AM  
So does "Stand Your Ground" work in a local bank, which may or may not have your money in an account, and you can't wait for a loan officer and the teller is right there and you forgot to leave your gun at home and no legislators would be injured?
 
2013-05-23 11:55:31 AM  
F%$*ing campers.
 
2013-05-23 11:57:07 AM  
FTFA: "Thorough investigation, detectives learned Galjour had been walking along ABC Lane early Wednesday morning. According to Chouest, he noticed Galjour lying in a neighbor's driveway and attempted to make verbal contact with him. According to Chouest, when Galjour did not respond, he fired one round from a scoped rifle striking Galjour in the head," Matherne detailed.

Thorough investigation? Maybe.  Thorough proofreading? Not so much.
 
2013-05-23 11:59:57 AM  
A kind soul passing out preventative hangover cures....
 
2013-05-23 12:03:47 PM  
meh.. typical NRA member who prior to the shooting was considered a 'responsible gun owner'.
 
2013-05-23 12:09:41 PM  

Turfshoe: FTFA: "Thorough investigation, detectives learned Galjour had been walking along ABC Lane early Wednesday morning. According to Chouest, he noticed Galjour lying in a neighbor's driveway and attempted to make verbal contact with him. According to Chouest, when Galjour did not respond, he fired one round from a scoped rifle striking Galjour in the head," Matherne detailed.

Thorough investigation? Maybe.  Thorough proofreading? Not so much.


I'm trying to grasp the mentality that leads from A to B to C in this situation, even factoring in being high on crack.

"Honey, there's some guy lying in the neighbor's driveway."
"Is he okay?"
"I'm not sure, I yelled at him but I didn't respond."
"Should I call 911?  He may be hurt, and if he's just some drunk vagrant, the cops will haul him away,"
"Don't be silly dear, a headshot from my Remington 700 will clear this mystery right up."
 
2013-05-23 12:15:36 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: When this gets to court, the tabloids will call it the Scoped Monkey trial.


+1 internets to you, good sir or madam.
 
2013-05-23 12:18:38 PM  
Let the person who has never sniped a crackhead cast the first pipe hit.
 
2013-05-23 12:27:55 PM  
i4.ytimg.com
 
2013-05-23 12:29:58 PM  

Nabb1: There is no "stand your ground" law in Louisiana.  We have self-defense, just like everyone else.


While I'm sure your expertise in Louisiana law is greater than mine, what about:

LA Rev Stat § 14:20(C), which states:

"C. A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force as provided for in this Section, and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force."

Is that not a "Stand Your Ground" law?

http://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2011/rs/title14/rs14-20/
 
2013-05-23 12:31:13 PM  

lostcat: Crack

Guns

Headshots

Rednecks

This article has it all.

I guess getting drunk enough to pass out and then never waking up because some peice of trash put a bullet in your head isn't the worst way to go.


Hey, no hangover!
 
2013-05-23 12:32:13 PM  

gopher321: But he was lying on the ground in a suspicious way...


We'll need a picture of the victim to determine his crime. Possibly Lying Down While Black.
 
2013-05-23 12:33:28 PM  
Wow, I've never done crack... but I don't know if I could pull off a good rifle shot on it. This guy must practice cracked out.
 
2013-05-23 12:34:56 PM  

Sgt Otter: Turfshoe: FTFA: "Thorough investigation, detectives learned Galjour had been walking along ABC Lane early Wednesday morning. According to Chouest, he noticed Galjour lying in a neighbor's driveway and attempted to make verbal contact with him. According to Chouest, when Galjour did not respond, he fired one round from a scoped rifle striking Galjour in the head," Matherne detailed.

Thorough investigation? Maybe.  Thorough proofreading? Not so much.

I'm trying to grasp the mentality that leads from A to B to C in this situation, even factoring in being high on crack.

"Honey, there's some guy lying in the neighbor's driveway."
"Is he okay?"
"I'm not sure, I yelled at him but I didn't respond."
"Should I call 911?  He may be hurt, and if he's just some drunk vagrant, the cops will haul him away,"
"Don't be silly dear, a headshot from my Remington 700 will clear this mystery right up."


well, jack the ripper did have a huge part in cleaning up London's prostitution problem.

/he was a hero
 
2013-05-23 12:48:52 PM  

hardinparamedic: Let the crackhead who has never sniped a stranger cast the first pipe hit.


/fixed for you
 
2013-05-23 12:54:20 PM  
DId he go through a bad divovce and recently give up smoking?

/and hate cans?
 
2013-05-23 12:55:47 PM  
The way the police described it, if he had stood up or looked "threatening" then it would be considered self-defense.
 
2013-05-23 01:05:02 PM  
Laying whom, subby?

/fighting a losing battle, I know
 
2013-05-23 01:05:58 PM  
That only works in Florida.
 
2013-05-23 01:13:03 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Look at this devolved creature:

[imgsrv.wwl.com image 320x240]


When this gets to court, the tabloids will call it the Scoped Monkey trial.


dammit, that was funny
 
2013-05-23 01:18:26 PM  

Sgt Otter: Turfshoe: FTFA: "Thorough investigation, detectives learned Galjour had been walking along ABC Lane early Wednesday morning. According to Chouest, he noticed Galjour lying in a neighbor's driveway and attempted to make verbal contact with him. According to Chouest, when Galjour did not respond, he fired one round from a scoped rifle striking Galjour in the head," Matherne detailed.

Thorough investigation? Maybe.  Thorough proofreading? Not so much.

I'm trying to grasp the mentality that leads from A to B to C in this situation, even factoring in being high on crack.

"Honey, there's some guy lying in the neighbor's driveway."
"Is he okay?"
"I'm not sure, I yelled at him but I didn't respond."
"Should I call 911?  He may be hurt, and if he's just some drunk vagrant, the cops will haul him away,"
"Don't be silly dear, a headshot from my Remington 700 will clear this mystery right up."


I'm going with the fact that it is Louisiana.

/Tulane
 
2013-05-23 01:26:11 PM  
Stupid cops.
The proper response is to hand the guy back his weapon and send him on his way.
 
2013-05-23 01:29:40 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Look at this devolved creature:

[imgsrv.wwl.com image 320x240]


When this gets to court, the tabloids will call it the Scoped Monkey trial.


/slow clap
 
2013-05-23 01:42:49 PM  

RexTalionis: Nabb1: There is no "stand your ground" law in Louisiana.  We have self-defense, just like everyone else.

While I'm sure your expertise in Louisiana law is greater than mine, what about:

LA Rev Stat § 14:20(C), which states:

"C. A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force as provided for in this Section, and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force."

Is that not a "Stand Your Ground" law?

http://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2011/rs/title14/rs14-20/


Huh.  Guess they amended the "justifiable homicide" statute to include that language after I got out of criminal law.  I've still never heard of it being used in those terms.  Learn something new every day, I guess.
 
hej
2013-05-23 01:56:19 PM  

Nabb1: RexTalionis: Nabb1: There is no "stand your ground" law in Louisiana.  We have self-defense, just like everyone else.

While I'm sure your expertise in Louisiana law is greater than mine, what about:

LA Rev Stat § 14:20(C), which states:

"C. A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force as provided for in this Section, and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force."

Is that not a "Stand Your Ground" law?

http://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2011/rs/title14/rs14-20/

Huh.  Guess they amended the "justifiable homicide" statute to include that language after I got out of criminal law.  I've still never heard of it being used in those terms.  Learn something new every day, I guess.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine#States_with_a_Stand-you r- ground_Law
 
2013-05-23 02:34:34 PM  

Sgt Otter: "Honey, there's some guy lying in the neighbor's driveway."
"Is he okay?"
"I'm not sure, I yelled at him but I didn't respond."


"Well, first of all make sure he's dead"
 
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