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(CNN)   After a UK soldier is brutally massacred in Britain, CNN asks the burning question: "Are UK soldiers targets at home?" Well duh   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 43
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2013-05-23 09:48:27 AM
Nice army base you have here.  It would be a shame if something were to happen to it.
 
2013-05-23 10:10:04 AM
OMG! It's a massacre of one!
 
2013-05-23 10:28:46 AM
How many isolated incidents does this make?
 
2013-05-23 10:30:49 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-23 10:34:47 AM
According to Spooks, this kinda shiat happens all the time, you just don't hear about it because MI-5 makes things spit-spot and the Home Secretary tells the media that it was perfectly natural swamp gas that took that soldier's head off.

All of my knowledge about the UK is from BBC dramas. If Spooks was at all grounded in truth, the UK is constantly one crumbled crumpet short of a Commonwealth-crippling calamity.
 
2013-05-23 10:35:01 AM
You got the crazies around you? Yeah you are a target. FARK has a whole load of crazies on it of every stripe if the posts are any indication. And they probably are.
 
2013-05-23 10:42:14 AM
 The UK is going to have to get over it's colonial guilt pretty soon. Their fairly open door
policy to former colonials isn't helping their nation. Too many people with ulterior motives are gaming
their system to get in and then causing problems. It doesn't matter if they are from Pakistan or
Jamaica either..
 
2013-05-23 10:43:45 AM
Naturally, the official British response will be to apologize to the families of those brave muslims who were only practicing their faith, only to be oppressed by the cops.

There's a reason why the UK is becoming "Britaniastan" more and more each day.
 
2013-05-23 10:45:19 AM

mikaloyd: You got the crazies around you? Yeah you are a target.


More accurately, got the Muslims around you.
 
2013-05-23 10:46:20 AM

jjorsett: How many isolated incidents does this make?


just another random lone wolf, like prior lone wolves with similar motivations and backgrounds.
 
2013-05-23 10:51:09 AM

ruta: According to Spooks, this kinda shiat happens all the time, you just don't hear about it because MI-5 makes things spit-spot and the Home Secretary tells the media that it was perfectly natural swamp gas that took that soldier's head off.

All of my knowledge about the UK is from BBC dramas. If Spooks was at all grounded in truth, the UK is constantly one crumbled crumpet short of a Commonwealth-crippling calamity.


Cor, blimey! Britain's best better batten down and button up to best this buttered bastard!
 
2013-05-23 10:52:42 AM
We'z just gots to keep deez 'indus from killing deez islams and evry ting gonna be ahight!
 
2013-05-23 10:54:26 AM
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my stolen pic came unstole.
 
2013-05-23 10:57:04 AM

Mr. Shabooboo: The UK is going to have to get over it's colonial guilt pretty soon. Their fairly open door
policy to former colonials isn't helping their nation. Too many people with ulterior motives are gaming
their system to get in and then causing problems. It doesn't matter if they are from Pakistan or
Jamaica either..


Always nice to see the bigots crawl out of the woodwork to take advantage of a murder.
 
2013-05-23 10:57:47 AM
At least we see how effective gun control laws are.
 
2013-05-23 10:59:57 AM

xria: Mr. Shabooboo: The UK is going to have to get over it's colonial guilt pretty soon. Their fairly open door
policy to former colonials isn't helping their nation. Too many people with ulterior motives are gaming
their system to get in and then causing problems. It doesn't matter if they are from Pakistan or
Jamaica either..

Always nice to see the bigots crawl out of the woodwork to take advantage of a murder.


You should've seen the last thread. I usually highlight the trolls, bigots and pundits in yellow.

The thread looks like piss.
 
2013-05-23 11:09:56 AM
If I have ever seen a headline that was trying too hard yet achieving nothing then I just looked at it
 
2013-05-23 11:18:38 AM
And the chilling effect the UK instilled through the legal system claims yet another life.

http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2011/08/self-defense-in-uk.html
 
2013-05-23 11:23:27 AM

khyberkitsune: And the chilling effect the UK instilled through the legal system claims yet another life.

http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2011/08/self-defense-in-uk.html


You what?  Is it your contention that he died because he couldn't defend himself?
 
2013-05-23 11:26:07 AM

khyberkitsune: And the chilling effect the UK instilled through the legal system claims yet another life.


Just out of interest, what self defence options are available against being mown down by a car?
 
2013-05-23 11:31:50 AM

The Envoy: khyberkitsune: And the chilling effect the UK instilled through the legal system claims yet another life.

http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2011/08/self-defense-in-uk.html

You what?  Is it your contention that he died because he couldn't defend himself?


Looks like you failed in reading comprehension. I'll let you re-read the link.

He likely DID NOTHING to defend himself because of the very problems mentioned in said link.

FarkinNortherner: Just out of interest, what self defence options are available against being mown down by a car?


Jump out of the way, and pay attention to your surroundings - situational awareness.
 
2013-05-23 11:39:15 AM

khyberkitsune: He likely DID NOTHING to defend himself because of the very problems mentioned in said link.


I'm all for restoring gun rights to the British, but that's kind of irrelevant in this case.  Crazy dude mows down this soldier and proceeds to chop him up with the help of a halal-buddy.  Even with "situational awareness", people can get hit by cars...especially those intentionally driven to mow 'em down...and reacting to a choppening after getting hit by a car is typically even less effective.  I doubt very much that the victim of these sick farks was thinking to himself, "Ow!  Ow!  But if I attacked them then I would be arrested!  Can't have that, I'll just blithely take their savage attack with a stiff upper lip."

I see flaws in your logic, KhyberKitsune.
 
2013-05-23 11:45:49 AM

khyberkitsune: He likely DID NOTHING to defend himself because of the very problems mentioned in said link.


He almost certainly did nothing because he'd been splattered against a lamppost by a Vauxhall Tigra.
 
2013-05-23 11:46:18 AM
If there was only a way to stop knife-wielding religious fanatics in their tracks?  You know, something that can shoot a projectile at a decent range to stop them before they get to you.  It rhymes with fun and begins with a "g"
 
2013-05-23 11:49:51 AM

FarkinNortherner: khyberkitsune: And the chilling effect the UK instilled through the legal system claims yet another life.

Just out of interest, what self defence options are available against being mown down by a car?


phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
 
2013-05-23 11:51:18 AM

SithLord: If there was only a way to stop knife-wielding religious fanatics in their tracks?  You know, something that can shoot a projectile at a decent range to stop them before they get to you.  It rhymes with fun and begins with a "g"


In the absence of background checks, what's to stop said fanatics obtaining such an item?

Also, again, the initial assault was vehicular.
 
2013-05-23 11:53:53 AM

FarkinNortherner: khyberkitsune: He likely DID NOTHING to defend himself because of the very problems mentioned in said link.

He almost certainly did nothing because he'd been splattered against a lamppost by a Vauxhall Tigra.


stevarooni: khyberkitsune: He likely DID NOTHING to defend himself because of the very problems mentioned in said link.

I'm all for restoring gun rights to the British, but that's kind of irrelevant in this case.  Crazy dude mows down this soldier and proceeds to chop him up with the help of a halal-buddy.  Even with "situational awareness", people can get hit by cars...especially those intentionally driven to mow 'em down...and reacting to a choppening after getting hit by a car is typically even less effective.  I doubt very much that the victim of these sick farks was thinking to himself, "Ow!  Ow!  But if I attacked them then I would be arrested!  Can't have that, I'll just blithely take their savage attack with a stiff upper lip."

I see flaws in your logic, KhyberKitsune.


Either of you two care to point out where it says the man was run over? It appears to be shooting, shooting, then stabbing, in EVERY RECOUNT OF THE STORY.

Looks like neither of you have much reading comprehension, either. Ditto logic for the both of you.
 
2013-05-23 12:05:03 PM

khyberkitsune: Either of you two care to point out where it says the man was run over? It appears to be shooting, shooting, then stabbing, in EVERY RECOUNT OF THE STORY.


"The victim, now confirmed as an off-duty soldier from the British army military barracks in Woolwich, was run over before being attacked with knives and a meat cleaver."

As reported across multiple news outlets, it was vehicular assault, knife attack, (unconfirmed) failed shooting towards the police, non-fatal shooting of the perpetrators by the police.
 
2013-05-23 12:07:15 PM

TV's Vinnie: Naturally, the official British response will be to apologize to the families of those brave muslims who were only practicing their faith, only to be oppressed by the cops.

There's a reason why the UK is becoming "Britaniastan" more and more each day.


Yeah! I must agree with this conclusion. It not like they were shot, captured and being interrogated at this very moment. Oh they are? Well my bad.
 
2013-05-23 12:20:42 PM

FarkinNortherner: khyberkitsune: Either of you two care to point out where it says the man was run over? It appears to be shooting, shooting, then stabbing, in EVERY RECOUNT OF THE STORY.

"The victim, now confirmed as an off-duty soldier from the British army military barracks in Woolwich, was run over before being attacked with knives and a meat cleaver."

As reported across multiple news outlets, it was vehicular assault, knife attack, (unconfirmed) failed shooting towards the police, non-fatal shooting of the perpetrators by the police.


One pretty farked up thing I read on the BBC was that bystanders at first thought the killers were actually helping the victim, after what was assumed to be a car accident.
 
2013-05-23 12:24:12 PM
Well
this thread derpalated quickly
 
2013-05-23 12:26:46 PM

LewDux: Well
this thread derpalated quickly


NO U!
 
2013-05-23 12:30:13 PM

khyberkitsune: Which is funny because the timeline of events as told in http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10074029/Shootings-and-m a chete-attack-in-south-east-London-live.html make zero mention of the man being run over.


While that's true, the crashed car and heavily bloodstained pavement is at the bottom of the page and the Telegraph's infographic here, gives the first event as "Victim...is hit by a car as it mounts the pavement".
 
2013-05-23 12:33:54 PM

khyberkitsune: Either of you two care to point out where it says the man was run over? It appears to be shooting, shooting, then stabbing, in EVERY RECOUNT OF THE STORY.


For certain values of "Every", this is untrue (CNN):

They first hit the man, thought to be a British soldier, with a car in broad daylight. Then the two attackers hacked him to death and dumped his body in the middle of a southeastern London road.
 
2013-05-23 01:18:01 PM

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: One pretty farked up thing I read on the BBC was that bystanders at first thought the killers were actually helping the victim, after what was assumed to be a car accident.


I could see that.  The normal way that things go when someone hits someone else in a car is they either screech off, hoping not to be caught, or they immediately run to the aid of their victim.  When something doesn't follow the script, so to speak, people's minds can continue to follow the script for a while until they accept that something  so strange is happening.
 
2013-05-23 01:26:35 PM

limeyfellow: TV's Vinnie: Naturally, the official British response will be to apologize to the families of those brave muslims who were only practicing their faith, only to be oppressed by the cops.

There's a reason why the UK is becoming "Britaniastan" more and more each day.

Yeah! I must agree with this conclusion. It not like they were shot, captured and being interrogated at this very moment. Oh they are? Well my bad.


What's to interrogate em about? They've already said very clearly why they did it. Time to move on where they are put on trial in the UK, released after acquittal, and given their own six bedroom council flat with stipend.
 
2013-05-23 01:27:55 PM

xria: Always nice to see the bigots apologists crawl out of the woodwork to take advantage of a murder help terrorists win.


FTFY
 
2013-05-23 01:28:54 PM
Was color was soldier?

/it matters in a non elemental way
 
2013-05-23 03:39:59 PM

TV's Vinnie: limeyfellow: TV's Vinnie: Naturally, the official British response will be to apologize to the families of those brave muslims who were only practicing their faith, only to be oppressed by the cops.

There's a reason why the UK is becoming "Britaniastan" more and more each day.

Yeah! I must agree with this conclusion. It not like they were shot, captured and being interrogated at this very moment. Oh they are? Well my bad.

What's to interrogate em about? They've already said very clearly why they did it. Time to move on where they are put on trial in the UK, released after acquittal, and given their own six bedroom council flat with stipend.


And then they'll get Marks and Spencer's vouchers when released on bail. It's absolutely true, because I read it in the Daily Mail.
 
2013-05-23 04:18:29 PM

jjorsett: How many isolated incidents does this make?


Two.

This one and one in March 2009 when two soldiers were shot dead and two civilians were wounded outside Massereene Barracks, killed by Catholics.

So 2-1 to Christians at the moment.
 
2013-05-23 10:59:36 PM

Norfolking Chance: jjorsett: How many isolated incidents does this make?

Two.

This one and one in March 2009 when two soldiers were shot dead and two civilians were wounded outside Massereene Barracks, killed by Catholics.

So 2-1 to Christians at the moment.


Ah yes, I forgot that we have to parse these things into infinite sub-categories in order to avoid drawing general inferences. In fact this is the only casewhere a member of the UK military was stabbed and hacked to death by two men screaming allahu ackbar. We certainly can't find any common threads to connect that with the plot to behead a Muslim member of the British army, the 2005 subway bombings, the other 2005 bombs that failed to detonate, the 2007 attempted car bombings, or the bombing in Exeter.
 
2013-05-24 03:42:50 AM
Just as events at Ft Hood have taught us - Let's not make cultural identities an issue here.  Let's focus on how people of the killed guys race have historically had the upper hand and abused the hacker pressure cooker people clan.  Boston Marathon - cause those east coasters laid the whoop ass on the Chechens don't ya know.  and this Drummer dude!  snow covered the Nigerians fer sure.  Sorry bout his kids.

msnbcmedia.msn.com
 
2013-05-24 03:53:17 AM
 
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