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(Sydney Morning Herald)   "You are going to lose", says London woman. Unknown if the armed terrorist she was directly confronting could hear her over the sound of her giant brass balls clanging together   (smh.com.au) divider line 311
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2013-05-22 07:11:59 PM  
20 minutes for the cops to arrive? Wow...This woman likely saved a lot of lives.
 
2013-05-22 07:27:04 PM  
Religion of peace.
/First
 
2013-05-22 08:28:12 PM  
Draft all the Cub Scout leaders and send them to Afghanistan, they'll sort things quickly.
 
2013-05-22 08:30:02 PM  

Highroller48: 20 minutes for the cops to arrive? Wow...This woman likely saved a lot of lives.


Agreed
 
2013-05-22 08:31:12 PM  
I like how she gives credit to her cub scout leader training.  Who needs special forces? Ovaries of steel.
 
2013-05-22 08:31:23 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Draft all the Cub Scout leaders and send them to Afghanistan, they'll sort things quickly.


I can see British scout leaders walking up to an IEd and telling it it's going to lose
Dumb as rocks those people
 
2013-05-22 08:31:46 PM  
No. No No. They're supposed to kill the infidels, Especially the women.  Allah will be very, very very disappointed.

No virgins (eternal rape victims) for them.
 
2013-05-22 08:31:53 PM  
Wow; unless they apprehended all of the bad guys; they just painted a giant target on this lady's back.

/ not to mention friends or relatives

// with a helpful, current picture of the witness
 
2013-05-22 08:31:56 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Religion of peace.
/First


Try not to get a head of yourself.
 
2013-05-22 08:32:13 PM  
What is wrong with the world today?
i4.ytimg.com
A man is lying on the street.
Some punk's chopped off his head.
And I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead.
Turns out he's dead.
 
2013-05-22 08:32:36 PM  
Where the hell were the coppers for twenty minutes-at Cadbury's?!

Remarkable display of bravery from the locals.
 
2013-05-22 08:32:38 PM  
Ah muslims, continuing their fine tradition of making the world a safe, peaceful, compassionate, nonviolent world.
 
2013-05-22 08:33:16 PM  
This should happen on Corronation Street. Norris will shiat his pants
 
2013-05-22 08:33:45 PM  
Before this happened, I was just watching the BBC series "Luther", where there were a couple of episodes about murderers just running around London in broad daylight killing people in front of crowds. I thought, "C'mon this really couldn't happen this way, it's so unreal!". Then I look at the news and see some murderers are running around London in broad daylight killing people in front of crowds Shows you what I know.
 
2013-05-22 08:34:21 PM  
So, they stood around and argued? Jesus, could this "terrorist" attack story be any more English?

Wasn't there a Scot around who could have taken a cricket or baseball bat to these two before they tried to hurt anyone else?
 
2013-05-22 08:35:46 PM  
Or she could of been stabbed in the face real good.
 
2013-05-22 08:35:54 PM  
Not from TFA but another one, eyewitness "grime rapper" Nu Brand (who is black -- NYT style) posted

"The two black bredas run this white guy over over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!"

//I like breda for brother, can white guys use that in the US?
///WTF is a grime rapper and are there any on my lawn?
 
2013-05-22 08:35:59 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-22 08:36:13 PM  

skinink: Before this happened, I was just watching the BBC series "Luther", where there were a couple of episodes about murderers just running around London in broad daylight killing people in front of crowds. I thought, "C'mon this really couldn't happen this way, it's so unreal!". Then I look at the news and see some murderers are running around London in broad daylight killing people in front of crowds Shows you what I know.



I presume you mean the one about the homicidal brothers. Fantastic episode.
 
2013-05-22 08:38:02 PM  
Paywall.  Can some kind person please copy/paste?  thanks you.
 
2013-05-22 08:38:05 PM  

mekki: So, they stood around and argued? Jesus, could this "terrorist" attack story be any more English?

Wasn't there a Scot around who could have taken a cricket or baseball bat to these two before they tried to hurt anyone else kicked the terrorists in the balls so hard they tore a tendon in their foot?


FTFY.
 
2013-05-22 08:38:20 PM  

Highroller48: 20 minutes for the cops to arrive? Wow...This woman likely saved a lot of lives.


Exactly. She did what a good negotiator would do. Show a face, engage, and de-escalate the situation.
 
2013-05-22 08:39:21 PM  

UseUrHeadFred: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 480x360]


Beat me to it....
 
2013-05-22 08:40:55 PM  
She was wrong.

These men accomplished everything they set out to do.
 
2013-05-22 08:41:32 PM  
"He said he was a British soldier and I said: 'Really?' And he said: 'I killed him because he killed Muslims and I am fed up with people killing Muslims in Afghanistan. They have nothing to do there.' "

These asshole terrorists better start attacking al Qaeda, then, because those farkers are butchering more Muslims than the US or the UK.
 
2013-05-22 08:42:44 PM  
"We want to start a war in London tonight."

RACE WAR! RACE WAR!

www.southparkstudios.com
 
2013-05-22 08:43:35 PM  

Apos: skinink: Before this happened, I was just watching the BBC series "Luther", where there were a couple of episodes about murderers just running around London in broad daylight killing people in front of crowds. I thought, "C'mon this really couldn't happen this way, it's so unreal!". Then I look at the news and see some murderers are running around London in broad daylight killing people in front of crowds Shows you what I know.


I presume you mean the one about the homicidal brothers. Fantastic episode.


Agreed.  What a great show, Idris Elba at his finest (yes, even better than his Stringer Bell character on "The Wire").  Wish America could put out this kind of quality police drama (coincidentally, something like "The Wire").
 
2013-05-22 08:45:01 PM  

Highroller48: 20 minutes for the cops to arrive? Wow...This woman likely saved a lot of lives.


From the other things I saw, the attackers apologized to the women present.  I don't think they were going to attack any women.
 
2013-05-22 08:45:40 PM  
This is exactly like that time that Westboro Baptist Church beheaded a soldier on a busy street.
 
2013-05-22 08:46:39 PM  
I don't know where all the hate for Muslims is coming from. I love going to Muslims and seeing all the fascinating exhibits.  And there are so many kinds, practically a Muslim for every taste.  Most of the time, you can't go wrong with a visit to the Muslim.  Where else can you get so many hours of entertainment and education for such little money?
 
2013-05-22 08:48:43 PM  
What's all this, then?
 
2013-05-22 08:48:45 PM  
I have to say there is no way I'm approaching and conversing with a guy who just decapitated someone in the street. So I guess this lady is really brave...since she survived.

/I feel like in America these guys might have been armed with more than cleavers and a revolver
 
2013-05-22 08:49:34 PM  
Good thing the cops were carrying firearms.
 
2013-05-22 08:49:34 PM  

solitary: Paywall.  Can some kind person please copy/paste?  thanks you.


A mother of two has described how she put her life on the line by trying to persuade terrorists to hand over their weapons.
Ingrid Loyau-Kennett, a cub scout leader, talked with the killers and kept her nerve as one of them told her: "We want to start a war in London tonight."
Mrs Loyau-Kennett, 48, from Cornwall, was one of the first people on the scene after the two Islamists butchered a soldier in Woolwich, south-east London, on Wednesday. She was photographed by onlookers confronting one of the attackers, who was holding a bloodied knife.
Mrs Loyau-Kennett was a passenger on a number 53 bus that was travelling past the scene. She jumped off to check the soldier's pulse.
"Being a cub leader I have my first aid," she said. "So when I saw this guy on the floor I thought it was an accident. Then I saw the guy was dead and I could not feel any pulse.
"And then when I went up there was this black guy with a revolver and a kitchen knife.
"He had what looked like butcher's tools and he had a little axe, to cut the bones, and two large knives and he said: 'Move off the body.' So I thought: 'OK, I don't know what is going on here.' He was covered with blood. I thought I had better start talking to him before he starts attacking somebody else. I thought these people usually have a message so I said: 'What do you want?'
"I asked him if he did it and he said 'yes', and I said 'why?' And he said because he [the victim] has killed Muslim people in Muslim countries.
"He said he was a British soldier and I said: 'Really?' And he said: 'I killed him because he killed Muslims and I am fed up with people killing Muslims in Afghanistan. They have nothing to do there.' "
When Mrs Loyau-Kennett arrived on the scene the pair of killers were roaming John Wilson Street waiting for police to arrive so they could stage a final confrontation with them.
She said: "I started to talk to him and I started to notice more weapons and the guy behind him with more weapons as well. By then, people had started to gather around.
"So I thought, OK, I should keep him talking to me before he noticed everything around him.
"He was not high, he was not on drugs, he was not an alcoholic or drunk. He was just distressed, upset. He was in full control of his decisions and ready to do everything he wanted to do.
"I said: 'Right, now it is only you versus many people, you are going to lose, what would you like to do?' He said: 'I would like to stay and fight.' "
The terrorist in the black hat then went to speak to someone else and Mrs Loyau-Kennett tried to engage with the other man in the light coat. She said: "The other one was much shyer and I went to him and I said: 'Well, what about you? Would you like to give me what you have in your hands?'
"I did not want to say weapons but I thought it was better having them aimed on one person like me rather than everybody there. Children were starting to leave school as well."
Mrs Loyau-Kennett was not the only woman to show extraordinary courage in the Woolwich street.
Others shielded the soldier's body as the killers stood over them.
Joe Tallant, 20, a van loader who lives near the scene, said a friend and her mother went over to help the soldier as he lay dying in the street.
"Her mother was so brave, she didn't care what happened to her," he said. "She knelt by his side and comforted him. She held his hand and put her other hand on his chest. I think she might have been praying." MPs last night praised the "extraordinary bravery" of the women and raised concerns about why it took armed police 20 minutes to arrive at the scene while people's lives were at risk.
According to a security source the delay in the armed police response was "particularly surprising" because there is a heavily armed police presence at Woolwich Crown Court, which is just four kilometres away.
Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the Home Affairs select committee, said: "We are all grateful for the local people who responded so quickly.
"It shows the spirit of London ... that people are just not prepared to allow an attack of this kind. I pay tribute to what they have done."
Patrick Mercer MP, a former Army officer and former shadow counter terrorism minister, paid tribute to the people who shielded the body of the soldier.
He said: "This is courage of the highest order. It sounds as if these members of the public are not soldiers, not policemen, not people whose duties demand this. They are extremely courageous people and that courage deserves to be recognised at the highest level."
Robert Buckland, a Conservative member of the justice select committee, said: "If it is the case [that police took 20 minutes to arrive] it is very worrying. If there was any unwarranted delay then that needs to be investigated."
 
2013-05-22 08:49:46 PM  
weltallica

These men accomplished everything they set out to do.

at this stage we're pulling theories out of the air.

but, out of thin air, i will suggest that they may not have accomplished their goals, or accomplished them yet. they killed the guy, then found someone with a camera and hung about. so, imo, they either wanted to die or they wanted to go to trial. they didn't die and they haven't been tried yet.
 
2013-05-22 08:50:30 PM  

Highroller48: 20 minutes for the cops to arrive? Wow...This woman likely saved a lot of lives.


20 minutes for armed cops to arrive. London police are unarmed except for special units.  That it takes a long time to get someone with a gun shows how rarely they're needed.
 
2013-05-22 08:50:31 PM  
www.shakesmyhead.com
 
2013-05-22 08:51:12 PM  
Bunch of farking pussies over there. They would have been beaten to death before they finished stabbing the dude if that happened in America.
 
2013-05-22 08:51:27 PM  

Apos: Where the hell were the coppers for twenty minutes-at Cadbury's?!
Remarkable display of bravery from the locals.


Not to mention restraint.  Could've very easily become a bloody-minded mob, instead of such a controlled response.  Here's to civilization.
 
2013-05-22 08:52:06 PM  

js34603: I have to say there is no way I'm approaching and conversing with a guy who just decapitated someone in the street. So I guess this lady is really brave...since she survived.

/I feel like in America these guys might have been armed with more than cleavers and a revolver


A bag full of pressure cookers, maybe a gun so they can ambush a cop to steal another gun.

/If you outlaw pressure cookers, only outlaws will make corned beef in an easy and convenient manner.
 
2013-05-22 08:52:11 PM  
I still find it amazing how normal, everyday people are standing up in the face of violence to help those in need.  Here, this woman risked her life to confront an armed attacker; in the Boston marathon, people ran towards the explosions to help the injured.  It's almost as if we, as a society, are being tested in the crucible of others' hate, and are are being given a passing grade.  Perhaps there's hope for us yet.

In her place, I'm pretty sure I'd have just shiat all over myself and started crying, but then I do that pretty often anyway so it may not mean a whole lot.
 
2013-05-22 08:52:19 PM  
To run towards danger to stop bad guys rather than from it is the definition of heroic. How many of us would? Some of the farkers with combat experience or law enforcement backgrounds perhaps. This is a middle aged den mother. Good on her.
 
2013-05-22 08:52:49 PM  
Dayum.

What calmness, presence and rationale thought in the face of clear and present danger.

This women is a true badass.
 
2013-05-22 08:53:56 PM  
Can Muslims stop being such farking assholes? It's getting out of hand. They destroyed the once advanced and civilized middle east and north Africa and now they are trying to fark up the rest of the world with their backwards and regressive religion. It's really starting to piss me off having to hear about some dipshiat Muslim murdering innocent people because of their fairy tales.
 
2013-05-22 08:54:36 PM  
Christians kill millions of islamists over the centuries.
Islamists kill thousands of Christians in one year via the Saudis. Then kill a few thousand more via Dictator Bush jr.

Please won't 'Murica donate some christians to the Islamists to balance out the death numbers and peace shall be achieved.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-22 08:54:58 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I don't know where all the hate for Muslims is coming from. I love going to Muslims and seeing all the fascinating exhibits.  And there are so many kinds, practically a Muslim for every taste.  Most of the time, you can't go wrong with a visit to the Muslim.  Where else can you get so many hours of entertainment and education for such little money?


No, no, no - you're thinking of those grand tombs. The most famous of which is the Taj Mahal, but the Muslim at Halicarnassus was one of the seven wonders of the world.

I think the word you're looking for is mussels.
 
2013-05-22 08:55:10 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Draft all the Cub Scout leaders and send them to Afghanistan, they'll sort things quickly.


Hundreds of years of tribal warfare? hahahahahahaha... oh wow...
 
2013-05-22 08:55:19 PM  

Coach_J: Dayum.

What calmness, presence and rationale thought in the face of clear and present danger.

This women is a true badass.


This.
Plus she entered the scene when she thought it was just an accident and was trying to help.
 
2013-05-22 08:55:44 PM  
Has the woman been arrested yet for infringing on their cultural heritage?

I was told this kind of thing was impossible in Britain since they have no guns there.

Religion of Peas.

/I miss any of the major troll arguments?
 
2013-05-22 08:56:12 PM  
The best and worst of Humanity in one tableau.
 
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