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(Gawker)   We secretly replaced the person in charge of delivering the opening prayer at the House of Representatives with an Atheist. Let's see if anyone notices   (gawker.com) divider line 156
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2013-05-22 06:06:52 PM
Hmmm, a little early in the day for popcorn, but what the hell.
 
2013-05-22 06:15:31 PM
why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.
 
2013-05-22 06:17:37 PM
How many lawmakers audibly gasped and reflexively made the sign of the cross?
 
2013-05-22 06:23:48 PM
THROW HIM INTO THE POND!
 
2013-05-22 06:30:06 PM

Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.


Voters might disagree.
 
2013-05-22 06:32:40 PM

fusillade762: Hmmm, a little early in the day for popcorn, but what the hell.


Early in the day? I already ate dinner. Bring on the main event.
 
2013-05-22 06:39:26 PM
I hope he managed to deliver an upper decker in the house toilet while he was at it
 
2013-05-22 06:49:15 PM

Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.


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2013-05-22 06:57:37 PM

GleeUnit: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

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You realize 3/4th of presidents are more Ford than Kennedy in the "excitement" department, right? Obama's fairly boring, despite being "hep" (singing Al Green, posing as Superman) - he's my dad, 8 years younger.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-05-22 07:32:54 PM
I can't wait to see the right wing outrage over this tomorrow.
 
2013-05-22 07:35:58 PM
And yet his speech was more Christ-like than anything Santorum, Huckabee, Palin, et al would ever say
 
2013-05-22 07:38:23 PM

Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.


That should be the case, but for several states, it isn't. Which States Ban Atheists From Holding Office?
 
2013-05-22 07:42:55 PM
Dr Dreidel:
 Obama's fairly boring, despite being "hep

Obama has hepatitis? Just where was he on 9/11/2012?
 
2013-05-22 07:43:56 PM

GleeUnit: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

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2094?
 
2013-05-22 07:45:30 PM
"I would like to ask that you take a moment to look around the room at all of the men and women here, in this moment, sharing together this extraordinary experience of being alive and of dedicating ourselves to working toward improving the lives of the people of our state."

This seems like a generous way to describe the Arizona House of Representatives
 
2013-05-22 07:47:30 PM

GleeUnit: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

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I, for one, welcome our new roboprexy overlords.
 
2013-05-22 07:48:09 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: And yet his speech was more Christ-like than anything Santorum, Huckabee, Palin, et al would ever say


NO shiat. This, that and this again.

/and I am a believer in a higher being
//I like this dude and would vote for him
 
2013-05-22 07:48:19 PM

God-is-a-Taco: Dr Dreidel:
 Obama's fairly boring, despite being "hep

Obama has hepatitis? Just where was he on 9/11/2012?


No, no, 'Hep is an obscure Kenyan disease.
 
2013-05-22 07:48:28 PM
So unlike most atheists he wasn't pompous and annoying about it?
 
2013-05-22 07:49:39 PM

Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.


No, in several states atheists are not allowed to run for office.
 
2013-05-22 07:49:46 PM
I'm getting tired of Fark functioning as my "Remember what I saw on Gawker yesterday?" website.

I know, I know.  No one cares.
 
2013-05-22 07:50:01 PM

Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.


And they say satire is dead.
 
2013-05-22 07:50:16 PM
I like the way he handled it.  Well played, sir.

/Fellow Atheist
 
2013-05-22 07:50:32 PM

Outrageous Muff: So unlike most atheists he wasn't pompous and annoying about it?


I love when someone who claims to have a direct relationship and daily conversations with the all-powerful creator of the Universe calls other people pompous and annoying.
 
2013-05-22 07:51:03 PM
Secular humanism ≠ atheism.
 
2013-05-22 07:52:07 PM

GleeUnit: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

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I dunno, if Buchanan was in the closet at all then he was leaning right up against the door threatening to fall out, and the first atheist president was probably Lincoln.

/And only probably because Jefferson was right on the line
 
2013-05-22 07:52:26 PM
Wait there is a Hispanic Atheist non Catholic out there
 
2013-05-22 07:53:43 PM

that was my nickname in highschool: Secular humanism ≠ atheism.


how do you figure?

/but not all atheists are humanists, etc
 
2013-05-22 07:54:23 PM

Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.


leftistmoon.files.wordpress.com

Inform this individual.
 
2013-05-22 07:55:08 PM

WordyGrrl: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

That should be the case, but for several states, it isn't. Which States Ban Atheists From Holding Office?


Fascinating.  Don't think any of those laws would pass US Constitutional muster but it's a good reminder of the long road ahead for secularists.

Also, that speech was awesome.  Reminded me of Vonnegut's quote about the meaning of life told to him by his son: "To help one another get through this thing, whatever it is."
 
2013-05-22 07:55:57 PM

Dimensio: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

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Inform this individual.


And pretty much a guarantee that if the actual Jesus were to appear, that fine gentleman would call him a turrist
 
2013-05-22 07:56:20 PM

Dimensio: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

[leftistmoon.files.wordpress.com image 468x340]

Inform this individual.


This guy, too, while you're at it.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-22 07:56:59 PM
The impulse toward religious bigotry is so strong, 60 legislators gave in to it. And they sort of have an important role in protecting the freedom of religion.
 
2013-05-22 07:57:14 PM
www.texaspoker.dk
 
2013-05-22 07:58:00 PM

gimmegimme: Dimensio: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

[leftistmoon.files.wordpress.com image 468x340]

Inform this individual.

This guy, too, while you're at it.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x254]


Snopes is your friend, pal.
 
2013-05-22 07:58:06 PM
Why the hell do legislative bodies waste time on things like opening prayers, "sense of the senate" resolutions, naming official state [lunch meat, color, geometric shape, etc.], and other such crap that's completely pointless.
 
2013-05-22 08:00:34 PM
Guess he wasn't hoping for reelection
 
2013-05-22 08:00:36 PM

vpb: I can't wait to see the right wing outrage over this tomorrow.


You think they'd wait that long?
 
2013-05-22 08:01:06 PM

Dimensio: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

[leftistmoon.files.wordpress.com image 468x340]

Inform this individual.


He already knows. See the free shirt he got for buying all those Stupidity Offsets?
 
2013-05-22 08:01:30 PM

Outrageous Muff: So unlike most atheists he wasn't pompous and annoying about it?


Funny how 100% of the plane crashes you see in the news ended in a crash.
 
2013-05-22 08:02:01 PM

Voiceofreason01: that was my nickname in highschool: Secular humanism ≠ atheism.

how do you figure?

/but not all atheists are humanists, etc



There's plenty of room to reject mythology/the supernatural yet still believe in a higher power.

When I take the time to think about it, I find myself somewhere in that area.
 
2013-05-22 08:02:42 PM

WordyGrrl: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

That should be the case, but for several states, it isn't. Which States Ban Atheists From Holding Office?


South Carolina is easiest enough to get around.  I believe in a Supreme Being, myself.  As for the others, "All Hail Satan, My Dark Lord and Master" meets with their requirements.
 
2013-05-22 08:02:45 PM

chrylis: GleeUnit: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

[1.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn.com image 600x519]

2094?


That is because there will be a two year extension on the 2044 to 2048 presidential term to avoid the early parts of future primary campaigns conflicting with the FIFA World Cup finals..
 
2013-05-22 08:02:58 PM
What he said:

This room in which there are many challenging debates, many moments of tension, of ideological division, of frustration. But this is also a room where, as my Secular Humanist tradition stresses, by the very fact of being human, we have much more in common than we have differences. We share the same spectrum of potential for care, for compassion, for fear, for joy, for love.

Carl Sagan once wrote, "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." There is, in the political process, much to bear. In this room, let us cherish and celebrate our shared humanness, our shared capacity for reason and compassion, our shared love for the people of our state, for our Constitution and for our democracy - and let us root our policymaking process in these values that are relevant to all Arizonans regardless of religious belief or nonbelief. In gratitude and in love, in reason and in compassion, let us work together for a better Arizona.


Probably the most, and possibly the only, intelligent words ever spoken in the Arizona legislature. I'll be surprised if his house doesn't get burned down.
 
2013-05-22 08:04:49 PM

nytmare: Outrageous Muff: So unlike most atheists he wasn't pompous and annoying about it?

Funny how 100% of the plane crashes you see in the news ended in a crash.


gifrific.com
 
2013-05-22 08:04:50 PM

Dr Dreidel: gimmegimme: Dimensio: Weaver95: why would this even be a problem?  we aren't a theocracy....atheists are just as welcome in office as anyone else.

[leftistmoon.files.wordpress.com image 468x340]

Inform this individual.

This guy, too, while you're at it.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x254]

Snopes is your friend, pal.


Hmmm...it looks like Snopes didn't investigate, only the Snopes message board.  There and elsewhere, it seems as though opinion is very much divided on the matter.  Unlike believers in religion, I care that what I believe is true.  So I'll instead ask folks to inform this guy:

upload.wikimedia.org

Proof.
 
2013-05-22 08:05:04 PM

jshine: Why the hell do legislative bodies waste time on things like opening prayers, "sense of the senate" resolutions, naming official state [lunch meat, color, geometric shape, etc.], and other such crap that's completely pointless.


osteodiet.com

Because governing is hard. They've earned a break.... and a bonus.
...and they've already solved all the big problems anyway.
 
2013-05-22 08:05:58 PM

Dr Dreidel: Snopes is your friend, pal.


Simply says there's no documentation of his having said it...but also says he has never denied it.
 
2013-05-22 08:06:05 PM
How Onionesque.
 
2013-05-22 08:07:11 PM

Arachnophobe: vpb: I can't wait to see the right wing outrage over this tomorrow.

You think they'd wait that long?


Republican Rep. Steve Smith on Wednesday said the prayer offered by Democratic Rep. Juan Mendez at the beginning of the previous day's floor session wasn't prayer at all. So he asked other members to join him in a second daily prayer in "repentance."

Repentance? Dude, nobody got smote with a bolt of lightning; so either God was okay with Mendez's invocation...or, you know, there isn't anyone up there to complain.....
 
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