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(Gothamist)   The real reason the NYPD likes stop-and-frisk is not to keep weapons off the street: It's free weed   (gothamist.com) divider line 25
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2013-05-22 03:55:42 PM
5 votes:
If they decriminalized weed in NY, the cops would have almost nothing to do.
2013-05-22 03:50:53 PM
5 votes:
HOLY CRAP look at the minority to white ratio.

This policy is complete madness.

They are targeting minorities.
2013-05-22 04:19:42 PM
3 votes:
Remember everyone: racism is dead and gone, and you're the real racist for looking at statistics that clearly demonstrate otherwise.
2013-05-22 05:38:47 PM
2 votes:

iheartscotch: cman: HOLY CRAP look at the minority to white ratio.

This policy is complete madness.

They are targeting minorities.

Remember, the police are the only people that some people say should have guns.


Yes, because the proper response to a police officer stopping you to do a constitutionally impermissible pat-down is to gun that farker down in his tracks. Clearly that is the solution with the least complicating or problematic consequences.

Here he is, folks, yet another responsible, law-abiding gun owner who thinks the solution to life's ordinary dilemmas is to shoot them.
2013-05-22 05:35:48 PM
2 votes:

Elandriel: cman: HOLY CRAP look at the minority to white ratio.

This policy is complete madness.

They are targeting minorities.

This!  This is profiling, through and through.  The NYPD has become truly despicable.


In all the IRS threads I was told by liberals that profiling was OK in order to single out certain groups.

What's the problem here then?
2013-05-22 04:25:13 PM
2 votes:
How can anyone with a moral bone in their body support this?

It is literally indefensible. There is no possible way to say that there is anything to this but racial profiling and intimidation.
2013-05-22 04:01:19 PM
2 votes:

cman: HOLY CRAP look at the minority to white ratio.

This policy is complete madness.

They are targeting minorities.


This!  This is profiling, through and through.  The NYPD has become truly despicable.
2013-05-22 08:09:16 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: nburghmatt: PortWineBoy: Nib: dj_bigbird:
If you say "no" and they search and find weed, once they pull it out of your pocket it's in open view.  You get arrested.  You also get charged with perjury for lying to the cop which is the real trigger for the arrest.

perjury happens in court, when you lie under oath. lying to a cop is completely legal, it just pisses them off.

"Making false statements to police" and "obstructing an investigation" are real things.


Yep, hence...
Do not talk to the police part 1
2013-05-22 08:07:53 PM
1 votes:

miss diminutive: Remind me never to travel to New York as a black person.


Or as any person that values things like, their rights.
2013-05-22 07:32:52 PM
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: iheartscotch: hardinparamedic: iheartscotch: Remember, the police are the only people that some people say should have guns.

I get the feeling you're inferring that people should use their firearms to attack police by that statement. Otherwise,

Nope. I'm just implying that the police are less than reliable concerning corruption.

So why were you implying, in a thread about police abusing their authority, that minority New Yorkers would be better off if they were permitted to carry firearms?


I read it as sarcastic criticism of the notion that cops are more trustworthy than citizens, not an exhortation to carry weapons.
2013-05-22 07:24:28 PM
1 votes:

iheartscotch: gilgigamesh: iheartscotch: hardinparamedic: iheartscotch: Remember, the police are the only people that some people say should have guns.

I get the feeling you're inferring that people should use their firearms to attack police by that statement. Otherwise,

Nope. I'm just implying that the police are less than reliable concerning corruption.

So why were you implying, in a thread about police abusing their authority, that minority New Yorkers would be better off if they were permitted to carry firearms?

I am a black guy who lives in a state that allows you to conceal carry with a permit. If I got stopped for questioning while unarmed, I would probably get hassled a bit and lose some time from my day.

If I got stopped and the cops found a concealed gun on me that I had every right to possess, I would count myself lucky to walk away alive.

Cops don't like it when you are an armed minority, and they won't hesitate to explain it to you directly.

I am implying that any citizen of the United States , without a felony on their record, with a valid conceal carry licence, to carry a firearm. No matter if that person is white, black, yellow, mango or tangerine.

If anyone who has a conceal carry gets stopped; it causes a little delay in there day.

/ I'm not advocating someone shoot a police officer in anyway; I'm not implying one should or would use a gun to shoot a police officer


No, he's saying that he wouldn't put it past some pig to make his day a living hell simply by virtue of being an armed minority. Hell, I'm white and almost got shot by a cop who, if not for his partner, might have gone totally off the deep end and shot me.

The thing about your average cop is that they are the types of personalities that would LEAST trust with a weapon, let alone arrest powers.
2013-05-22 06:46:59 PM
1 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: AbbeySomeone: tinfoil-hat maggie: er marriage not marge
/I need to drink more to get over this hangover.

I was hoping for a pic of what an interracial Marge may look like.

LoL, I'm sorta curious myself now : )


Here ya go :)

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2013-05-22 06:18:48 PM
1 votes:
I'd like to see the numbers on racial break-down of poverty in NYC next to those arrest numbers too.

It could be racism, or it could be good old fashioned oppression of the under-class.
2013-05-22 05:59:03 PM
1 votes:

iheartscotch: gilgigamesh: iheartscotch: cman: HOLY CRAP look at the minority to white ratio.

This policy is complete madness.

They are targeting minorities.

Remember, the police are the only people that some people say should have guns.

Yes, because the proper response to a police officer stopping you to do a constitutionally impermissible pat-down is to gun that farker down in his tracks. Clearly that is the solution with the least complicating or problematic consequences.

Here he is, folks, yet another responsible, law-abiding gun owner who thinks the solution to life's ordinary dilemmas is to shoot them.

Not what I said at all.

I was implying that the police are less than reliable.

Also, some people FREAKED when Arizona passed its "Papers, please" law; I figured that some of those same people would be on the same page here.


This is a thread about police abusing their authority, not being unreliable. "Some people say police are the only people who should have guns" implies you think other people should have guns. Why? In the context of this thread, that must mean to deal with abusive police.

Backtrack all you want. Your statement speaks for itself.
2013-05-22 05:52:20 PM
1 votes:
I'm still astonished that these have not been challenged in the SCOTUS.  They are CLEARLY 4th Amendment violations.
2013-05-22 05:49:52 PM
1 votes:

Nib: dj_bigbird: If they decriminalized weed in NY, the cops would have almost nothing to do.

It is decriminalized in NY actually.


Not with 5000 arrests for it, it's not.
2013-05-22 05:48:02 PM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: fawlty: FTFA: Surveys have shown that whites use marijuana at higher rates than blacks or Hispanics, yet of the 26,225 marijuana-related stops made in 2012, only 8.7% involved whites-61.4% involved blacks or Hispanics.

and

For instance, blacks or Latinos make up only 7.8% of the residents in the 17th Precinct, which covers Kips Bay, Turtle Bay, and Murray Hill. But 74% of those stopped in that precinct were people of color. In Greenwich Village's 6th Precinct, that number was 83.5%, despite the fact that only 8% of the neighborhood's population has that racial makeup.

This from a liberal Mayor in a liberal city.  Now, explain to me again how "progressives" are such better, more tolerant and understanding, people than conservatives.

ha has a couple of liberal leanings. he's mostly a fascist authoritarian.


Authoritarian is not a left v right issue.
2013-05-22 05:43:42 PM
1 votes:
This is also a great way to "sell" tickets to the policeman's ball.
2013-05-22 05:42:32 PM
1 votes:

fawlty: FTFA: Surveys have shown that whites use marijuana at higher rates than blacks or Hispanics, yet of the 26,225 marijuana-related stops made in 2012, only 8.7% involved whites-61.4% involved blacks or Hispanics.

and

For instance, blacks or Latinos make up only 7.8% of the residents in the 17th Precinct, which covers Kips Bay, Turtle Bay, and Murray Hill. But 74% of those stopped in that precinct were people of color. In Greenwich Village's 6th Precinct, that number was 83.5%, despite the fact that only 8% of the neighborhood's population has that racial makeup.

This from a liberal Mayor in a liberal city.  Now, explain to me again how "progressives" are such better, more tolerant and understanding, people than conservatives.


ha has a couple of liberal leanings. he's mostly a fascist authoritarian.
2013-05-22 05:37:23 PM
1 votes:
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2013-05-22 05:37:20 PM
1 votes:

iheartscotch: Remember, the police are the only people that some people say should have guns.


I get the feeling you're inferring that people should use their firearms to attack police by that statement. Otherwise,

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2013-05-22 05:36:24 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: Surveys have shown that whites use marijuana at higher rates than blacks or Hispanics, yet of the 26,225 marijuana-related stops made in 2012, only 8.7% involved whites-61.4% involved blacks or Hispanics.

and

For instance, blacks or Latinos make up only 7.8% of the residents in the 17th Precinct, which covers Kips Bay, Turtle Bay, and Murray Hill. But 74% of those stopped in that precinct were people of color. In Greenwich Village's 6th Precinct, that number was 83.5%, despite the fact that only 8% of the neighborhood's population has that racial makeup.

This from a liberal Mayor in a liberal city.  Now, explain to me again how "progressives" are such better, more tolerant and understanding, people than conservatives.
2013-05-22 05:31:09 PM
1 votes:
It's really sad stories like this are true.
2013-05-22 05:30:00 PM
1 votes:
ecx.images-amazon.com

I think she's hiding something. Get in there and check it out Lou.
2013-05-22 04:22:24 PM
1 votes:
Remind me never to travel to New York as a black person.
 
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