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2013-05-22 05:20:25 PM  

hockeyfarker: farkers would also rather discuss hockey than read about ESPN doing whatever the fark they do.

where hockey thread
where


6pm EDT

Do not fret or worry.
 
2013-05-22 05:22:23 PM  
ESPN tried to turn bowling into an in your face game. I'm glad they failed
 
2013-05-22 05:22:32 PM  

hockeyfarker: farkers would also rather discuss hockey than read about ESPN doing whatever the fark they do.

where hockey thread
where


No. Wait. Time zones are hard. That's 7pm EDT. I think. I'm in Central, so I'm not always sure whether I should hokey or pokey. My bad.
 
2013-05-22 05:22:46 PM  

Gunny Highway: spman: Also, does ESPN 2 still show Magic the Gathering?

Replaced by Cross Fit championships.  I still miss the Mini Golf championships.


Mini Golf was funny especially when they took it so serious.
 
2013-05-22 05:23:41 PM  

chevydeuce: PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!

Actually, it's Glendale.  Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.

Glendale is ~20 miles from downtown Phoenix and maybe 30-40 from Scottsdale/Tempe (going off memory of when I lived there 20+ years ago)....if you're major league sports franchise can't create enough excitement to attract fans from that relatively short distance, you might want to rethink your business plan (like having an ice hockey team in a farking desert).


Actually, it would help even more if the previous owner weren't embezzling the fark out of the franchise.
 
2013-05-22 05:24:10 PM  

Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.


People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.
 
2013-05-22 05:30:38 PM  

chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.


Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?
 
2013-05-22 05:34:25 PM  

chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.


List of Stanley Cup winners over the past 10 years:

2003 - New Jersey
2004 - Tampa Bay
2005 - Die in a fire Bettman
2006 - Carolina
2007 - Anaheim

2008 - Detroit
2009 - Pittsburgh
2010 - Chicago
2011 - Boston
2012 - LA Kings

Nine different champions, four of them in "non-traditional" hockey markets.

What's the problem again?
 
2013-05-22 05:34:30 PM  
Their parents didn't want them to play football because of all the brain injuries, but they still wanted them to be tough
 
2013-05-22 05:35:29 PM  
your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.
 
2013-05-22 05:37:09 PM  

hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.


...I hated that year.
 
2013-05-22 05:37:32 PM  

hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.


ASSuming you're from Calgary or at least a Flames fan?
 
2013-05-22 05:38:16 PM  

chevydeuce: If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most. In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.


People learn. People grow. I live in Dallas. I can tell you that the Stars have brought hockey to a large population that had probably never thought about it before. We now have 6 Stars Centers where you can free skate, sign up for a league, attend a camp, or watch the Stars practice. And there are tons of kids who grew up in Dallas who have always played hockey & have always had a hockey team in their town. We may even have a player or two heading to the NHL soon.

I mean, we're not breaking attendance records or anything. We were 25th in the league last year (home attendance percentage), but our team was mediocre at best, so I think that's to be expected. Teams with worse attendance percentages: St Louis, Colorado, NYI, Phoenix, & Columbus. I count 3 cold weather markets in that list, with St Louis being on the bubble. Hm! Looks like freezing your ass off half the year isn't the only factor in a successful hockey team.
 
2013-05-22 05:38:39 PM  

hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.


What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.
 
2013-05-22 05:38:41 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?


No...I can't, because I don't know their story or history.  But how do their numbers compare to the number of Northeastern born/raised Americans, Canadians, Russians, Swedes, etc that are playing?

The NFL has had a few Nigerians play...doesn't mean the NFL is huge in Nigeria.
 
2013-05-22 05:40:34 PM  

chevydeuce: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?

No...I can't, because I don't know anything about hockey.


FTFY.
 
2013-05-22 05:43:15 PM  
I would watch any sport...ANY SPORT...than sit and watch hours of 3 or 4 screeching idiots arguing about some stupid shiat invented controversy.

Give me back my Australian Rules Football. Any sport, please.
 
2013-05-22 05:44:02 PM  

PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.


4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.
 
2013-05-22 05:45:00 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I would watch any sport...ANY SPORT...than sit and watch hours of 3 or 4 screeching idiots arguing about some stupid shiat invented controversy.

Give me back my Australian Rules Football. Any sport, please.


It would be wrong of you to Google vipbox.

Very wrong.
 
2013-05-22 05:45:35 PM  

Di Atribe: chevydeuce: If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most. In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

People learn. People grow. I live in Dallas. I can tell you that the Stars have brought hockey to a large population that had probably never thought about it before. We now have 6 Stars Centers where you can free skate, sign up for a league, attend a camp, or watch the Stars practice. And there are tons of kids who grew up in Dallas who have always played hockey & have always had a hockey team in their town. We may even have a player or two heading to the NHL soon.

I mean, we're not breaking attendance records or anything. We were 25th in the league last year (home attendance percentage), but our team was mediocre at best, so I think that's to be expected. Teams with worse attendance percentages: St Louis, Colorado, NYI, Phoenix, & Columbus. I count 3 cold weather markets in that list, with St Louis being on the bubble. Hm! Looks like freezing your ass off half the year isn't the only factor in a successful hockey team.


When I went to school in Dallas, Stars games were some of the most fun I've had. I still say hockey is best sport to watch live. Exciting as hell, loud as fark, and everyone's just getting drunk and having an awesome time (except for that douchebag kid on the front row who always insisted on banging the glass).

I love going to hockey games. Pisses me off that Houston never got a pro-level team.
 
2013-05-22 05:48:14 PM  

Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.


Ouch.  That's almost as bad as getting your nuts kicked in every year as a Sharks fan.
 
2013-05-22 05:49:15 PM  
chevydeuce:

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

The idea is the future. For the surviving teams in the sunbelt, one day all the potential fans will have grown up with a hockey team in their city.
 
2013-05-22 05:52:26 PM  

unyon: degenerate-afro: I watched the PBA from time to time when it was on over the air TV, but since it went to cable I haven't watched it at all.  I also use to watch PBR.  I miss ABC's wide world of sports.

Did you watch PBA and PBR on PBS?

/loves PBR- Any sport that ends every 8 seconds with a cowboy dick down in the dirt is ok with me


I'll watch billiards, darts and even curling honestly.  I just like sports in general.  Although I'm one of those weird people who like Tennis more than Soccer or any motor sport (drag racing, NASCAR, F1, etc)
 
2013-05-22 05:54:48 PM  
I'm young, fark it.

THIS IS OUR YEAR!

/go cowboys because fark you.
 
2013-05-22 05:54:59 PM  

PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?

No...I can't, because I don't know anything about hockey.

FTFY.


That may very well be....So I'll ask, why then is hockey considered to be a second rate sport?  Even all the hockey fans right here on Fark biatch and complain because people don't watch or it's not on TV or it doesn't get its due on mainstream sports channels/websites?  Why have many hockey fans and broadcasters been making the same arguments that I am over the years about expansion into too many non-hockey markets?  I don't care if you like hockey....more power to you and I hope whatever team you root for wins the Cup next year and every year after that.  But it doesn't change the fact that it's a niche sport that will never thrive in places that haven't grown up with it, like it does in cold weather climes....
 
2013-05-22 05:57:23 PM  

PowerSlacker: TheShavingofOccam123: I would watch any sport...ANY SPORT...than sit and watch hours of 3 or 4 screeching idiots arguing about some stupid shiat invented controversy.

Give me back my Australian Rules Football. Any sport, please.

It would be wrong of you to Google vipbox.

Very wrong.


Hmmmmmmm.....should I....I've been very sorry before....

thethunderchild.com

Thought it over...I'll pass....
 
2013-05-22 06:00:22 PM  
The PBT peaked with Ernie Schlegel's sequins.

And check out that Earl Anthony. It's like, how much more bland could he be and the answer is...none more bland.
 
2013-05-22 06:00:23 PM  

scottydoesntknow: When I went to school in Dallas, Stars games were some of the most fun I've had. I still say hockey is best sport to watch live.


I went all the time in college. It's where I learned to love hockey. I haven't been in a while, though. Very sad story. :(
 
2013-05-22 06:06:04 PM  

chevydeuce: PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?

No...I can't, because I don't know anything about hockey.

FTFY.

That may very well be....So I'll ask, why then is hockey considered to be a second rate sport?  Even all the hockey fans right here on Fark biatch and complain because people don't watch or it's not on TV or it doesn't get its due on mainstream sports channels/websites?  Why have many hockey fans and broadcasters been making the same arguments that I am over the years about expansion into too many non-hockey markets?  I don't care if you like hockey....more power to you and I hope whatever team you root for wins the Cup next year and every year after that.  But it doesn't change the fact that it's a niche sport that will never thrive in places that haven't grown up with it, like it does in cold weather climes....


ESPN doesn't broadcast it, and until the Vancouver Olympics, downplayed it entirely. As noted in TFA, they're now realizing that was a mistake, along with other sports and leagues, especially since NBC and CBS have come out with their own all-sports networks, and FOX is giving it a second go.
 
2013-05-22 06:07:57 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: ESPN doesn't broadcast it, and until the Vancouver Olympics, downplayed it entirely. As noted in TFA, they're now realizing that was a mistake, along with other sports and leagues, especially since NBC and CBS have come out with their own all-sports networks, and FOX is giving it a second go.


Hockey is one of the Big 4. I have never, and will never, consider it second tier.  I think most sports fans see it that ways.
 
2013-05-22 06:08:00 PM  
Bowling broadcasts cost ESPN basically nothing and run only as counterprogramming to very popular sports on other channels (Sundays during NFL season, basically).
 
2013-05-22 06:12:37 PM  

degenerate-afro: I'll watch billiards, darts and even curling honestly. I just like sports in general. Although I'm one of those weird people who like Tennis more than Soccer or any motor sport (drag racing, NASCAR, F1, etc)


I think this is a MUCH more fun & interesting topic than piffling about where hockey should be played. Let's talk about less than mainstream sports we like to watch instead.

I like tennis when it's a big tourney & Rafael Nadal is playing.
Curling
Gymnastics
Figure skating (even though I kind of don't think it's a "sport" since the judging is mostly subjective)
Car racing but ONLY if I'm watching with someone who can answer questions
Skiing
The end of golf tournaments
Swimming (half-naked hotties, hello)
 
2013-05-22 06:15:11 PM  

Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.


5. moving to Switzerland during the second round. Convincing a local bar to stay "open" way past closing time on a weekday, in order to watch game 7 of the SCF, going home at 5AM, and then going to work.


I don't care that we lost to a Florida team. a team with Martin St. Louis in the best year of his career kinda hurt. good job on that one, Flames management.
 
2013-05-22 06:20:50 PM  
I would love to see rugby played regularly on ESPN. Get Six Nations, TRC, Heniken Cup and Super Rugby, as well as Super League and NRL, that would be awesome.
 
2013-05-22 06:22:49 PM  

PowerSlacker: Actually, it's Glendale. Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.


The problem with this argument is that they spent 8 years right in Phoenix and never managed to gain any traction. The move out of town hurt them, but I have trouble believing that had they stayed there, they'd be a great success story.
 
2013-05-22 06:23:39 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I would love to see rugby played regularly on ESPN. Get Six Nations, TRC, Heniken Cup and Super Rugby, as well as Super League and NRL, that would be awesome.


Hopefully Fox will move those events from Fox Soccer Plus to Fox Sports 1 or 2 so people can actually see them.
 
2013-05-22 06:24:36 PM  

Gulper Eel: The PBT peaked with Ernie Schlegel's sequins.

And check out that Earl Anthony. It's like, how much more bland could he be and the answer is...none more bland.


2.bp.blogspot.com

"One more time, sweetness."
 
2013-05-22 06:26:25 PM  

nyihockey: PowerSlacker: Actually, it's Glendale. Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.

The problem with this argument is that they spent 8 years right in Phoenix and never managed to gain any traction. The move out of town hurt them, but I have trouble believing that had they stayed there, they'd be a great success story.


I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.  The arena in Phoenix (where the Suns play, can't remember the current sponsor's name) was awful for hockey from what I've heard from friends who went there.
 
2013-05-22 06:28:32 PM  
 
2013-05-22 06:28:40 PM  

hockeyfarker: 5. moving to Switzerland during the second round.


the best part about this was how it's not like I missed the only time the Flames went past the first round of the playoffs for more than a decade before or after that year. move to Europe, they said. see the world, they said
 
2013-05-22 06:31:55 PM  

Di Atribe: I went all the time in college. It's where I learned to love hockey. I haven't been in a while, though. Very sad story. :(


Out of context, I'd think you were talking about a lesbian bar.

// in my head, you are
// found out my mom loved hockey (shut up) as a kid; now her boss owns the Ducks
 
2013-05-22 06:32:37 PM  

hockeyfarker: Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.

5. moving to Switzerland during the second round. Convincing a local bar to stay "open" way past closing time on a weekday, in order to watch game 7 of the SCF, going home at 5AM, and then going to work.

I don't care that we lost to a Florida team. a team with Martin St. Louis in the best year of his career kinda hurt. good job on that one, Flames management.


...ouch.  I feel your pain.
 
2013-05-22 06:33:12 PM  

chevydeuce: National Ice Golf Ball Kicking Association (NIGBKA)


NIGBKA please.

// no, I kind of want that to be a real sport, though
// Kickstart it?
 
2013-05-22 06:36:31 PM  

Di Atribe: degenerate-afro: I'll watch billiards, darts and even curling honestly. I just like sports in general. Although I'm one of those weird people who like Tennis more than Soccer or any motor sport (drag racing, NASCAR, F1, etc)

I think this is a MUCH more fun & interesting topic than piffling about where hockey should be played. Let's talk about less than mainstream sports we like to watch instead.

I like tennis when it's a big tourney & Rafael Nadal is playing.
Curling
Gymnastics
Figure skating (even though I kind of don't think it's a "sport" since the judging is mostly subjective)
Car racing but ONLY if I'm watching with someone who can answer questions
Skiing
The end of golf tournaments
Swimming (half-naked hotties, hello)


I love that NBC sports has cycling. They don't have the Giro which sucks, but it does go against Tour Of California. I'd like a lot more auto racing. V8 Supercars from Australia, ALMS & WEC. X games are ok, but it needs more of a "season." I could do without poker and UFC. Show us some rugby.

I will be spending roughly a billion hours this Sunday watching races, Monaco, Indy 500 & the Coke 600. I'm going to need a lot of beer.
A LOT of beer.
 
2013-05-22 06:44:09 PM  

Decillion: The idea is the future. For the surviving teams in the sunbelt, one day all the potential fans will have grown up with a hockey team in their city.


If these teams were smart (and maybe some did this or something similar, I don't know) they would have had promotions where if you bought a ticket package, they'd put a kid in minor hockey for free. Hockey is expensive as fark to play but if you get kids playing it, you're more likely to get not only the kids as fans, but the parents too. The problem is, sports owners aren't looking at 10-20 years down the road. The team is an investment to them and they are hoping to cash out before an investment in young fans pays off.
 
2013-05-22 06:49:06 PM  
mahler.ca
 
2013-05-22 06:52:43 PM  
And since this is now the default hockey thread, Vancouver has chosen a nude erection for its coaching staff.
 
2013-05-22 06:52:55 PM  
"Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!"

You think that Vancouver shouldn't have a hockey team? A city that had a riot when they lost in the finals? Twice? They just can't possibly care because they don't get a pile of snow, can they?

Weather is irrelevant. Do some of the teams from Bettman's Southern experiment need to be moved or folded? Yes. Is it because they are in warm climates? Hell no.
 
2013-05-22 06:58:49 PM  

PowerSlacker: 1.  Welcome to yesterday, subby.
2.  I'd rather watch the PBA than any of ESPN's talk shows about sports.


Do you watch the PBA before, or after the paint has finished drying?
 
2013-05-22 06:59:44 PM  

crotchgrabber: I love that NBC sports has cycling. They don't have the Giro which sucks, but it does go against Tour Of California. I'd like a lot more auto racing. V8 Supercars from Australia, ALMS & WEC. X games are ok, but it needs more of a "season." I could do without poker and UFC. Show us some rugby.


My dad is a cyclist, so for some reason, I never got into it on TV. Tour de France is amazeballs, though.

Agreed on poker & UFC. Also, I'd like to add rugby to my list. Oh man is that fun to watch. Plus, rugby guys.....


Dr Dreidel: Out of context, I'd think you were talking about a lesbian bar.


Not everyone in college is a lezzie, hello! However, we do have one of the greatest ever here in Denton:

i27.photobucket.com

/have heard stories
//never been inside
///take that in all ways possible
 
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