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2013-05-22 03:28:04 PM  
I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.
 
2013-05-22 04:00:17 PM  
I hope that blowhard Berman is the first to go.

back back back back back back out the front door dumb ass.
 
2013-05-22 04:05:22 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.


I love sports and I will tell you why. Humans are competitive by nature. We are survivors. Sports emulate our natural instinct to be the best. Professional athletes spend their entire lives pushing themselves to be the greatest. They are walking examples of physical perfection engaging in competition against each other at the epitome of their abilities.

There's an expression in football that on "any given Sunday" you never know what to expect. Anything can happen. Aside from the occasional crooked ref or fixed game, sports provide one of the most exciting, genuine spectacles of entertainment. When you go to a stadium or sit down on your couch to watch a game, you truly never know what to expect and it is that uncertainty where lies its beauty.
 
2013-05-22 04:05:26 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.

doing whatever it is that I don't like to do.

Fixed, now relatable for everyone.
 
2013-05-22 04:11:45 PM  

umadbro: When you go to a stadium or sit down on your couch to watch a game, you truly never know what to expect and it is that uncertainty where lies its beauty.


Agree


but Berman still gotta go
 
2013-05-22 04:11:46 PM  
At least watching a nail rust might prove to have some value scientifically.  The rest? Meh, go outside and kick a golf ball around on the ice yourself, why watch other people get paid to do it?
 
2013-05-22 04:15:31 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.


Because they made some stupid laws saying we can't have gladiators fighting to the death in a coliseum anymore, so now we have quench our thirst for blood using other avenues.

Also:

www.animateit.net
 
2013-05-22 04:31:48 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.


Can't help but think of my dad every time I watch the Tigers play.
 
2013-05-22 04:36:04 PM  

Calmamity: At least watching a nail rust might prove to have some value scientifically.  The rest? Meh, go outside and kick a golf ball around on the ice yourself, why watch other people get paid to do it?


There's a lot more science to be found in a typical major sport than there is in a lump of iron oxidizing.  Kinematics, biology, psychology, sociology, game theory, the list goes on.
 
2013-05-22 04:40:56 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.


It's like reality TV but less fixed and the acting is better.
 
2013-05-22 04:41:38 PM  
I watched the PBA from time to time when it was on over the air TV, but since it went to cable I haven't watched it at all.  I also use to watch PBR.  I miss ABC's wide world of sports.
 
2013-05-22 04:42:57 PM  
Could have gotten in while the price was low.

Suck it, ESPN.
 
2013-05-22 04:43:31 PM  

Calmamity: At least watching a nail rust might prove to have some value scientifically.  The rest? Meh, go outside and kick a golf ball around on the ice yourself, why watch other people get paid to do it?


Because no matter how much I practice kicking the golf ball around the ice, I do not possess the inate talent/ability to do it as well as the players in the National Ice Golf Ball Kicking Association (NIGBKA), so I want to watch real professionals do it as well as it can be done.
 
2013-05-22 04:43:34 PM  

fatalvenom: Could have gotten in while the price was low.

Suck it, ESPN.


On the NHL that is.
 
2013-05-22 04:44:26 PM  
so does this mean I am not going to be getting The Ocho in my cable line up any time soon?

4.bp.blogspot.com

damn.
 
2013-05-22 04:44:36 PM  
It's all going towards a la carte and pay-per-view. Cable is dying, especially with just about everything you can buy now being internet connected.

Down the road, ESPN will give you a choice: Either pay them x monthly for their full slate, or pay y for specific events. The monthly will be way cheaper if you watch a bunch of games.
 
2013-05-22 04:45:18 PM  

degenerate-afro: I watched the PBA from time to time when it was on over the air TV, but since it went to cable I haven't watched it at all.  I also use to watch PBR.  I miss ABC's wide world of sports.


Did you watch PBA and PBR on PBS?

/loves PBR- Any sport that ends every 8 seconds with a cowboy dick down in the dirt is ok with me
 
2013-05-22 04:45:34 PM  
Who does subby think he is? I am!
 
2013-05-22 04:48:53 PM  
I'd rather watch the PBA Tour than hockey.  In fact, I do watch PBA Tour and not hockey.
 
2013-05-22 04:51:29 PM  

chevydeuce: Calmamity: At least watching a nail rust might prove to have some value scientifically.  The rest? Meh, go outside and kick a golf ball around on the ice yourself, why watch other people get paid to do it?

Because no matter how much I practice kicking the golf ball around the ice, I do not possess the inate talent/ability to do it as well as the players in the National Ice Golf Ball Kicking Association (NIGBKA), so I want to watch real professionals do it as well as it can be done.


You know, it actually does sound like a sport worth watching.
 
2013-05-22 04:51:35 PM  

umadbro: When you go to a stadium or sit down on your couch to watch a game, you truly never know what to expect


I'm a Phillies fan.  I know precisely what to expect.
 
2013-05-22 04:53:06 PM  

Calmamity: At least watching a nail rust might prove to have some value scientifically.  The rest? Meh, go outside and kick a golf ball around on the ice yourself, why watch other people get paid to do it?


Because the people getting paid to do it are getting paid to do it because they're really damn good at it.
 
2013-05-22 04:53:10 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I'd rather watch the PBA Tour than hockey.  In fact, I do watch PBA Tour and not hockey.


Same here....

/if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team
 
2013-05-22 04:56:12 PM  
Isnt PBA usually on on Sundays.  Go after that "I dont watch football but I like competitions" demographic.
 
2013-05-22 04:56:55 PM  

chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team


Don't tell us, tell Gary Bettman.

/disgruntled hockey fan
 
2013-05-22 04:58:23 PM  

Calmamity: At least watching a nail rust might prove to have some value scientifically.  The rest? Meh, go outside and kick a golf ball around on the ice yourself, why watch other people get paid to do it?


It's called "having fun." Sometimes, people do it for entertainment.

And this. The entire post is dead-on, but this sentence is what keeps me coming back:

umadbro: sports provide one of the most exciting, genuine spectacles of entertainment.


That being said, no one is asking you to like it.
 
2013-05-22 04:59:10 PM  

chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team


Why not?
 
2013-05-22 04:59:36 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Who does subby think he is? I am!


i63.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-22 05:00:20 PM  

Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?


It is just one of the many things hockey fans complain about.  Dont pay it any attention.
 
2013-05-22 05:01:24 PM  
1.  Welcome to yesterday, subby.
2.  I'd rather watch the PBA than any of ESPN's talk shows about sports.
 
2013-05-22 05:01:30 PM  
It's still okay. ESPN still has poker and that Hooter's Girls beauty contest to fall back on.
 
2013-05-22 05:01:45 PM  

Gunny Highway: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

It is just one of the many things hockey fans complain about.  Dont pay it any attention.


I'm not a hockey fan....
 
2013-05-22 05:01:53 PM  
The problem with Bowling as a sport which makes it different than all other sports is that it has upper limits for how good you can be. Once you get your aim, spin, and form down pat, you can hit that strike 9 times out of 10. Granted, it takes a long time and a lot of skill to perfect it, but the guys competing in the PBA are all in the upper echelons of Pro Bowlers, and are, for the most part, all about as good as you're ever going to be. It's just not exciting to watch Bowling on TV when you know the score is going to end up being like 286 to 294. With any other sport, you can continually improve your ability infinitely, but with bowling not so much. Once you can bowl that 300, or close enough to it, on a fairly regular basis, then you're basically done.
 
2013-05-22 05:02:48 PM  

Di Atribe: It's called "having fun." Sometimes, people do it for entertainment.


Pfft. "Entertainment". Please. Entertainment for the unwashed, mentally deficient masses, maybe HEY-YO AMIRITE *invisible high-fives*

Oh look, I'd love to stay and chat for longer but I see a new documentary on 15th century Chilean horticulture is available on Netflix. Enjoy your balls of baskets or whatever that thing is called tonight.
 
2013-05-22 05:03:07 PM  

chevydeuce: Rapmaster2000: I'd rather watch the PBA Tour than hockey.  In fact, I do watch PBA Tour and not hockey.

Same here....

/if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team


Location: Imperial, CA
 
2013-05-22 05:03:28 PM  
Also, does ESPN 2 still show Magic the Gathering?
 
2013-05-22 05:04:15 PM  

chevydeuce: Gunny Highway: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

It is just one of the many things hockey fans complain about.  Dont pay it any attention.

I'm not a hockey fan....


...okay.  Then explain your thinking.
 
2013-05-22 05:04:38 PM  

Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?


Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!
 
2013-05-22 05:04:43 PM  

chevydeuce: Gunny Highway: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

It is just one of the many things hockey fans complain about.  Dont pay it any attention.

I'm not a hockey fan....


So you're just a troll.
 
2013-05-22 05:05:02 PM  

spman: Also, does ESPN 2 still show Magic the Gathering?


Replaced by Cross Fit championships.  I still miss the Mini Golf championships.
 
2013-05-22 05:06:25 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.


I'll spend time, but mostly to kill time.  It's a boob-tube diversion. Background noise. Neither worse nor better than reality TV. I don't spend much money on it.

At my level of fan (which is a fair bit of the audience), there's substitution effects the more everything becomes about millions and millons of $.  I started watching my local MLS team (actively enough to go to several games a year) because they were free on an antenna.  I have no clue who's playing for my local baseball team because they're cable-only.  Now that NCAA bowl games are entirely ESPN... I just don't watch them.  If there's lacrosse or aussie-rules or tennis or whatever... I'll watch it instead.
 
2013-05-22 05:07:39 PM  

chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!


Actually, it's Glendale.  Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.
 
2013-05-22 05:10:28 PM  

PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!

Actually, it's Glendale.  Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.


I actually did not know that - I do know that the Tampa Bay Rays have a similar issue; by the time you get from Tampa down to the stadium you could have driven to Orlando.
 
2013-05-22 05:11:58 PM  

chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!


Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.
 
2013-05-22 05:12:04 PM  
Jesus Di, relax.

None of us are going to come to your house and waterboard you until you hate sports.

Go to the games, have a good time.
 
2013-05-22 05:13:00 PM  

Calmamity: None of us are going to come to your house and waterboard you until you hate sports.


This is a joke, right?
 
2013-05-22 05:13:50 PM  

Calmamity: At least watching a nail rust might prove to have some value scientifically.  The rest? Meh, go outside and kick a golf ball around on the ice yourself, why watch other people get paid to do it?


I can sit around listening to myself play guitar, which I do at a mediocre level. Why would I bother going out and spending money to see a talented live blues band?
 
2013-05-22 05:15:39 PM  

PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!

Actually, it's Glendale.  Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.


Glendale is ~20 miles from downtown Phoenix and maybe 30-40 from Scottsdale/Tempe (going off memory of when I lived there 20+ years ago)....if you're major league sports franchise can't create enough excitement to attract fans from that relatively short distance, you might want to rethink your business plan (like having an ice hockey team in a farking desert).
 
2013-05-22 05:18:25 PM  

chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!


In what way is the product diluted?  A badly run business will probably shut down, a correctly run one probably will not.  The level of snow and ice that naturally occurs has very little bearing on the economic viability of, for example, the Los Angeles Kings.  The ice that they play on does not happen naturally and has to be maintained by artificial means (as is true of all professional hockey arenas, even in snowy areas) and yet the people still show up.  Your argument is tantamount to "Los Angeles shouldn't get a football team because they have to water their lawns."
 
2013-05-22 05:19:11 PM  
farkers would also rather discuss hockey than read about ESPN doing whatever the fark they do.

where hockey thread
where
 
2013-05-22 05:20:25 PM  

hockeyfarker: farkers would also rather discuss hockey than read about ESPN doing whatever the fark they do.

where hockey thread
where


6pm EDT

Do not fret or worry.
 
2013-05-22 05:22:23 PM  
ESPN tried to turn bowling into an in your face game. I'm glad they failed
 
2013-05-22 05:22:32 PM  

hockeyfarker: farkers would also rather discuss hockey than read about ESPN doing whatever the fark they do.

where hockey thread
where


No. Wait. Time zones are hard. That's 7pm EDT. I think. I'm in Central, so I'm not always sure whether I should hokey or pokey. My bad.
 
2013-05-22 05:22:46 PM  

Gunny Highway: spman: Also, does ESPN 2 still show Magic the Gathering?

Replaced by Cross Fit championships.  I still miss the Mini Golf championships.


Mini Golf was funny especially when they took it so serious.
 
2013-05-22 05:23:41 PM  

chevydeuce: PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!

Actually, it's Glendale.  Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.

Glendale is ~20 miles from downtown Phoenix and maybe 30-40 from Scottsdale/Tempe (going off memory of when I lived there 20+ years ago)....if you're major league sports franchise can't create enough excitement to attract fans from that relatively short distance, you might want to rethink your business plan (like having an ice hockey team in a farking desert).


Actually, it would help even more if the previous owner weren't embezzling the fark out of the franchise.
 
2013-05-22 05:24:10 PM  

Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.


People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.
 
2013-05-22 05:30:38 PM  

chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.


Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?
 
2013-05-22 05:34:25 PM  

chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.


List of Stanley Cup winners over the past 10 years:

2003 - New Jersey
2004 - Tampa Bay
2005 - Die in a fire Bettman
2006 - Carolina
2007 - Anaheim

2008 - Detroit
2009 - Pittsburgh
2010 - Chicago
2011 - Boston
2012 - LA Kings

Nine different champions, four of them in "non-traditional" hockey markets.

What's the problem again?
 
2013-05-22 05:34:30 PM  
Their parents didn't want them to play football because of all the brain injuries, but they still wanted them to be tough
 
2013-05-22 05:35:29 PM  
your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.
 
2013-05-22 05:37:09 PM  

hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.


...I hated that year.
 
2013-05-22 05:37:32 PM  

hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.


ASSuming you're from Calgary or at least a Flames fan?
 
2013-05-22 05:38:16 PM  

chevydeuce: If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most. In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.


People learn. People grow. I live in Dallas. I can tell you that the Stars have brought hockey to a large population that had probably never thought about it before. We now have 6 Stars Centers where you can free skate, sign up for a league, attend a camp, or watch the Stars practice. And there are tons of kids who grew up in Dallas who have always played hockey & have always had a hockey team in their town. We may even have a player or two heading to the NHL soon.

I mean, we're not breaking attendance records or anything. We were 25th in the league last year (home attendance percentage), but our team was mediocre at best, so I think that's to be expected. Teams with worse attendance percentages: St Louis, Colorado, NYI, Phoenix, & Columbus. I count 3 cold weather markets in that list, with St Louis being on the bubble. Hm! Looks like freezing your ass off half the year isn't the only factor in a successful hockey team.
 
2013-05-22 05:38:39 PM  

hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.


What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.
 
2013-05-22 05:38:41 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?


No...I can't, because I don't know their story or history.  But how do their numbers compare to the number of Northeastern born/raised Americans, Canadians, Russians, Swedes, etc that are playing?

The NFL has had a few Nigerians play...doesn't mean the NFL is huge in Nigeria.
 
2013-05-22 05:40:34 PM  

chevydeuce: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?

No...I can't, because I don't know anything about hockey.


FTFY.
 
2013-05-22 05:43:15 PM  
I would watch any sport...ANY SPORT...than sit and watch hours of 3 or 4 screeching idiots arguing about some stupid shiat invented controversy.

Give me back my Australian Rules Football. Any sport, please.
 
2013-05-22 05:44:02 PM  

PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.


4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.
 
2013-05-22 05:45:00 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I would watch any sport...ANY SPORT...than sit and watch hours of 3 or 4 screeching idiots arguing about some stupid shiat invented controversy.

Give me back my Australian Rules Football. Any sport, please.


It would be wrong of you to Google vipbox.

Very wrong.
 
2013-05-22 05:45:35 PM  

Di Atribe: chevydeuce: If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most. In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

People learn. People grow. I live in Dallas. I can tell you that the Stars have brought hockey to a large population that had probably never thought about it before. We now have 6 Stars Centers where you can free skate, sign up for a league, attend a camp, or watch the Stars practice. And there are tons of kids who grew up in Dallas who have always played hockey & have always had a hockey team in their town. We may even have a player or two heading to the NHL soon.

I mean, we're not breaking attendance records or anything. We were 25th in the league last year (home attendance percentage), but our team was mediocre at best, so I think that's to be expected. Teams with worse attendance percentages: St Louis, Colorado, NYI, Phoenix, & Columbus. I count 3 cold weather markets in that list, with St Louis being on the bubble. Hm! Looks like freezing your ass off half the year isn't the only factor in a successful hockey team.


When I went to school in Dallas, Stars games were some of the most fun I've had. I still say hockey is best sport to watch live. Exciting as hell, loud as fark, and everyone's just getting drunk and having an awesome time (except for that douchebag kid on the front row who always insisted on banging the glass).

I love going to hockey games. Pisses me off that Houston never got a pro-level team.
 
2013-05-22 05:48:14 PM  

Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.


Ouch.  That's almost as bad as getting your nuts kicked in every year as a Sharks fan.
 
2013-05-22 05:49:15 PM  
chevydeuce:

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

The idea is the future. For the surviving teams in the sunbelt, one day all the potential fans will have grown up with a hockey team in their city.
 
2013-05-22 05:52:26 PM  

unyon: degenerate-afro: I watched the PBA from time to time when it was on over the air TV, but since it went to cable I haven't watched it at all.  I also use to watch PBR.  I miss ABC's wide world of sports.

Did you watch PBA and PBR on PBS?

/loves PBR- Any sport that ends every 8 seconds with a cowboy dick down in the dirt is ok with me


I'll watch billiards, darts and even curling honestly.  I just like sports in general.  Although I'm one of those weird people who like Tennis more than Soccer or any motor sport (drag racing, NASCAR, F1, etc)
 
2013-05-22 05:54:48 PM  
I'm young, fark it.

THIS IS OUR YEAR!

/go cowboys because fark you.
 
2013-05-22 05:54:59 PM  

PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?

No...I can't, because I don't know anything about hockey.

FTFY.


That may very well be....So I'll ask, why then is hockey considered to be a second rate sport?  Even all the hockey fans right here on Fark biatch and complain because people don't watch or it's not on TV or it doesn't get its due on mainstream sports channels/websites?  Why have many hockey fans and broadcasters been making the same arguments that I am over the years about expansion into too many non-hockey markets?  I don't care if you like hockey....more power to you and I hope whatever team you root for wins the Cup next year and every year after that.  But it doesn't change the fact that it's a niche sport that will never thrive in places that haven't grown up with it, like it does in cold weather climes....
 
2013-05-22 05:57:23 PM  

PowerSlacker: TheShavingofOccam123: I would watch any sport...ANY SPORT...than sit and watch hours of 3 or 4 screeching idiots arguing about some stupid shiat invented controversy.

Give me back my Australian Rules Football. Any sport, please.

It would be wrong of you to Google vipbox.

Very wrong.


Hmmmmmmm.....should I....I've been very sorry before....

thethunderchild.com

Thought it over...I'll pass....
 
2013-05-22 06:00:22 PM  
The PBT peaked with Ernie Schlegel's sequins.

And check out that Earl Anthony. It's like, how much more bland could he be and the answer is...none more bland.
 
2013-05-22 06:00:23 PM  

scottydoesntknow: When I went to school in Dallas, Stars games were some of the most fun I've had. I still say hockey is best sport to watch live.


I went all the time in college. It's where I learned to love hockey. I haven't been in a while, though. Very sad story. :(
 
2013-05-22 06:06:04 PM  

chevydeuce: PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.

Can you explain how players who have grown up in Texas, Southern California, Nevada, Tennessee, and North Carolina are now playing in the NHL?

No...I can't, because I don't know anything about hockey.

FTFY.

That may very well be....So I'll ask, why then is hockey considered to be a second rate sport?  Even all the hockey fans right here on Fark biatch and complain because people don't watch or it's not on TV or it doesn't get its due on mainstream sports channels/websites?  Why have many hockey fans and broadcasters been making the same arguments that I am over the years about expansion into too many non-hockey markets?  I don't care if you like hockey....more power to you and I hope whatever team you root for wins the Cup next year and every year after that.  But it doesn't change the fact that it's a niche sport that will never thrive in places that haven't grown up with it, like it does in cold weather climes....


ESPN doesn't broadcast it, and until the Vancouver Olympics, downplayed it entirely. As noted in TFA, they're now realizing that was a mistake, along with other sports and leagues, especially since NBC and CBS have come out with their own all-sports networks, and FOX is giving it a second go.
 
2013-05-22 06:07:57 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: ESPN doesn't broadcast it, and until the Vancouver Olympics, downplayed it entirely. As noted in TFA, they're now realizing that was a mistake, along with other sports and leagues, especially since NBC and CBS have come out with their own all-sports networks, and FOX is giving it a second go.


Hockey is one of the Big 4. I have never, and will never, consider it second tier.  I think most sports fans see it that ways.
 
2013-05-22 06:08:00 PM  
Bowling broadcasts cost ESPN basically nothing and run only as counterprogramming to very popular sports on other channels (Sundays during NFL season, basically).
 
2013-05-22 06:12:37 PM  

degenerate-afro: I'll watch billiards, darts and even curling honestly. I just like sports in general. Although I'm one of those weird people who like Tennis more than Soccer or any motor sport (drag racing, NASCAR, F1, etc)


I think this is a MUCH more fun & interesting topic than piffling about where hockey should be played. Let's talk about less than mainstream sports we like to watch instead.

I like tennis when it's a big tourney & Rafael Nadal is playing.
Curling
Gymnastics
Figure skating (even though I kind of don't think it's a "sport" since the judging is mostly subjective)
Car racing but ONLY if I'm watching with someone who can answer questions
Skiing
The end of golf tournaments
Swimming (half-naked hotties, hello)
 
2013-05-22 06:15:11 PM  

Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.


5. moving to Switzerland during the second round. Convincing a local bar to stay "open" way past closing time on a weekday, in order to watch game 7 of the SCF, going home at 5AM, and then going to work.


I don't care that we lost to a Florida team. a team with Martin St. Louis in the best year of his career kinda hurt. good job on that one, Flames management.
 
2013-05-22 06:20:50 PM  
I would love to see rugby played regularly on ESPN. Get Six Nations, TRC, Heniken Cup and Super Rugby, as well as Super League and NRL, that would be awesome.
 
2013-05-22 06:22:49 PM  

PowerSlacker: Actually, it's Glendale. Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.


The problem with this argument is that they spent 8 years right in Phoenix and never managed to gain any traction. The move out of town hurt them, but I have trouble believing that had they stayed there, they'd be a great success story.
 
2013-05-22 06:23:39 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I would love to see rugby played regularly on ESPN. Get Six Nations, TRC, Heniken Cup and Super Rugby, as well as Super League and NRL, that would be awesome.


Hopefully Fox will move those events from Fox Soccer Plus to Fox Sports 1 or 2 so people can actually see them.
 
2013-05-22 06:24:36 PM  

Gulper Eel: The PBT peaked with Ernie Schlegel's sequins.

And check out that Earl Anthony. It's like, how much more bland could he be and the answer is...none more bland.


2.bp.blogspot.com

"One more time, sweetness."
 
2013-05-22 06:26:25 PM  

nyihockey: PowerSlacker: Actually, it's Glendale. Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.

The problem with this argument is that they spent 8 years right in Phoenix and never managed to gain any traction. The move out of town hurt them, but I have trouble believing that had they stayed there, they'd be a great success story.


I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.  The arena in Phoenix (where the Suns play, can't remember the current sponsor's name) was awful for hockey from what I've heard from friends who went there.
 
2013-05-22 06:28:32 PM  
 
2013-05-22 06:28:40 PM  

hockeyfarker: 5. moving to Switzerland during the second round.


the best part about this was how it's not like I missed the only time the Flames went past the first round of the playoffs for more than a decade before or after that year. move to Europe, they said. see the world, they said
 
2013-05-22 06:31:55 PM  

Di Atribe: I went all the time in college. It's where I learned to love hockey. I haven't been in a while, though. Very sad story. :(


Out of context, I'd think you were talking about a lesbian bar.

// in my head, you are
// found out my mom loved hockey (shut up) as a kid; now her boss owns the Ducks
 
2013-05-22 06:32:37 PM  

hockeyfarker: Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.

5. moving to Switzerland during the second round. Convincing a local bar to stay "open" way past closing time on a weekday, in order to watch game 7 of the SCF, going home at 5AM, and then going to work.

I don't care that we lost to a Florida team. a team with Martin St. Louis in the best year of his career kinda hurt. good job on that one, Flames management.


...ouch.  I feel your pain.
 
2013-05-22 06:33:12 PM  

chevydeuce: National Ice Golf Ball Kicking Association (NIGBKA)


NIGBKA please.

// no, I kind of want that to be a real sport, though
// Kickstart it?
 
2013-05-22 06:36:31 PM  

Di Atribe: degenerate-afro: I'll watch billiards, darts and even curling honestly. I just like sports in general. Although I'm one of those weird people who like Tennis more than Soccer or any motor sport (drag racing, NASCAR, F1, etc)

I think this is a MUCH more fun & interesting topic than piffling about where hockey should be played. Let's talk about less than mainstream sports we like to watch instead.

I like tennis when it's a big tourney & Rafael Nadal is playing.
Curling
Gymnastics
Figure skating (even though I kind of don't think it's a "sport" since the judging is mostly subjective)
Car racing but ONLY if I'm watching with someone who can answer questions
Skiing
The end of golf tournaments
Swimming (half-naked hotties, hello)


I love that NBC sports has cycling. They don't have the Giro which sucks, but it does go against Tour Of California. I'd like a lot more auto racing. V8 Supercars from Australia, ALMS & WEC. X games are ok, but it needs more of a "season." I could do without poker and UFC. Show us some rugby.

I will be spending roughly a billion hours this Sunday watching races, Monaco, Indy 500 & the Coke 600. I'm going to need a lot of beer.
A LOT of beer.
 
2013-05-22 06:44:09 PM  

Decillion: The idea is the future. For the surviving teams in the sunbelt, one day all the potential fans will have grown up with a hockey team in their city.


If these teams were smart (and maybe some did this or something similar, I don't know) they would have had promotions where if you bought a ticket package, they'd put a kid in minor hockey for free. Hockey is expensive as fark to play but if you get kids playing it, you're more likely to get not only the kids as fans, but the parents too. The problem is, sports owners aren't looking at 10-20 years down the road. The team is an investment to them and they are hoping to cash out before an investment in young fans pays off.
 
2013-05-22 06:49:06 PM  
mahler.ca
 
2013-05-22 06:52:43 PM  
And since this is now the default hockey thread, Vancouver has chosen a nude erection for its coaching staff.
 
2013-05-22 06:52:55 PM  
"Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!"

You think that Vancouver shouldn't have a hockey team? A city that had a riot when they lost in the finals? Twice? They just can't possibly care because they don't get a pile of snow, can they?

Weather is irrelevant. Do some of the teams from Bettman's Southern experiment need to be moved or folded? Yes. Is it because they are in warm climates? Hell no.
 
2013-05-22 06:58:49 PM  

PowerSlacker: 1.  Welcome to yesterday, subby.
2.  I'd rather watch the PBA than any of ESPN's talk shows about sports.


Do you watch the PBA before, or after the paint has finished drying?
 
2013-05-22 06:59:44 PM  

crotchgrabber: I love that NBC sports has cycling. They don't have the Giro which sucks, but it does go against Tour Of California. I'd like a lot more auto racing. V8 Supercars from Australia, ALMS & WEC. X games are ok, but it needs more of a "season." I could do without poker and UFC. Show us some rugby.


My dad is a cyclist, so for some reason, I never got into it on TV. Tour de France is amazeballs, though.

Agreed on poker & UFC. Also, I'd like to add rugby to my list. Oh man is that fun to watch. Plus, rugby guys.....


Dr Dreidel: Out of context, I'd think you were talking about a lesbian bar.


Not everyone in college is a lezzie, hello! However, we do have one of the greatest ever here in Denton:

i27.photobucket.com

/have heard stories
//never been inside
///take that in all ways possible
 
2013-05-22 07:03:31 PM  

old_toole: I hope that blowhard Berman is the first to go.


I always liked how he'd "predict" the draft pick -- "call me crazy guys, but...with the 13th pick, I'm getting a weird feeling the ___ are gonna take Joe Blow" -- and for years people thought he was some kind of draft savant.

and then Rich Eisen said, "yeah, the dirty little secret is, the NFL regularly gave us [ESPN] the pick before it was announced, so that the truck could get the video ready....some people would use the ifnromation to make themselves look smarter.  no names mentioned, Boomer."
 
2013-05-22 07:04:45 PM  

Di Atribe: /have heard stories
//never been inside
///take that in all ways possible


I went to a hardware store/bike rental shop/pub in Ireland.  The American hippie telling the locals that "we shake hands like this in the State" made me want to stand up and apologize when she left.  The "this" was a Native American, grab the other person's forearm shake.  I went outside for a smoke instead.

The place you posted looks amazing.
 
2013-05-22 07:05:22 PM  

PowerSlacker: I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. The arena in Phoenix (where the Suns play, can't remember the current sponsor's name) was awful for hockey from what I've heard from friends who went there.


That may be. A quick look a wikipedia says it was a major issue. Which begs the question why would they move the team to an arena that couldn't handle hockey?

I'm not against teams in warm climate. Enough of them have survived to prove it can work. But you need a good ownership group that is committed to build a following from the ground up. Maybe hockey in Phoenix could work, but this incarnation is a massive failure and I doubt they'll take another shot at it once this team leaves.
 
2013-05-22 07:06:23 PM  

nyihockey: good ownership group that is committed to build a following from the ground up

 
2013-05-22 07:11:40 PM  

chevydeuce: Gunny Highway: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

It is just one of the many things hockey fans complain about.  Dont pay it any attention.

I'm not a hockey fan....


With that logic, if a city does not average 70°F for a high temperature in the middle of February, they shouldn't have a basketball team.

Also, all baseball and football domes should be demolished.
/Seriously.
 
2013-05-22 07:14:48 PM  

soopey: Also, all baseball and football domes should be demolished.


I am not a big baseball in domes guy but this Spring in Minnesota and Colorado sucked.
 
2013-05-22 07:20:53 PM  

Gunny Highway: soopey: Also, all baseball and football domes should be demolished.

I am not a big baseball in domes guy but this Spring in Minnesota and Colorado sucked.


As a baseball fan in Canada, retractable roofs are where it is at. The best of both worlds. You can have a great afternoon in the sun, but when it is bad you have shelter and very few lost games.
 
2013-05-22 07:30:22 PM  

Di Atribe: take that in all ways possible


Yeeeeah, you do.

// nothing but love, Texas

Gunny Highway: The place you posted looks amazing.


www.droidforums.net
 
2013-05-22 07:44:08 PM  

degenerate-afro: I watched the PBA from time to time when it was on over the air TV, but since it went to cable I haven't watched it at all.  I also use to watch PBR.  I miss ABC's wide world of sports.


This times infinity
 
2013-05-22 07:49:28 PM  

"Sports are the only thing you really need to watch live, and one of the last remaining arguments for why you need to subscribe to cable."


I don't need to watch it as they want me to think. I love watching live sports but the cable bill was just too high for the few channels I did watch. I cut the cord and now watch mainly movies on Amazon Prime or Netflix. The only sports I tend to catch are any playoffs, and NFL games which thankfully are three games on Sunday between the networks. I'm not going to pay cable $100/month just so I can watch the few live sports on ESPN that I like.

 
2013-05-22 07:56:38 PM  

chevydeuce: Rapmaster2000: I'd rather watch the PBA Tour than hockey.  In fact, I do watch PBA Tour and not hockey.

Same here....

/if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team


4 of the bottom 5 franchises in average attendance(as a % of capacity) have annual snowfall over that mark.

Outside of Phoenix, the rest of the non-snow teams all do either excellent to relatively well.  The Kings, Sharks, and Panthers are basically guaranteed sell outs.  The Lightning and Predators do very well.  The Hurricanes, Ducks, and Stars do fairly well(and the Ducks had one of the longest home sellout streaks in the NHL going in mid-decade 00s).  Only Phoenix is truly awful.  Maybe Phoenix is just not a good market.  The Cardinals and DBacks struggle for years at a time, the post Nash Suns aren't doing so well.  Hmm, nine non-snow teams, 5 are doing ridiculously well, 3 more aren't struggling to get by but could do better, and 1 is awful.  Maybe it's the city, not the ice.

Of course, it doesn't help that of all the cities in any major sport, Phoenix was hit the hardest by the housing and economic crash.  Harder than any area where a Florida or California team resides(the other hardest hit regions outside of the Phoenix/Vegas areas).
 
2013-05-22 08:08:55 PM  

skinink: "Sports are the only thing you really need to watch live, and one of the last remaining arguments for why you need to subscribe to cable."
I don't need to watch it as they want me to think. I love watching live sports but the cable bill was just too high for the few channels I did watch. I cut the cord and now watch mainly movies on Amazon Prime or Netflix. The only sports I tend to catch are any playoffs, and NFL games which thankfully are three games on Sunday between the networks. I'm not going to pay cable $100/month just so I can watch the few live sports on ESPN that I like.


Are you including the cost of your internet in the $100/mo?

Factoring in the discount from my package internet/tv deal, if I dropped TV and picked up Netflix and Hulu+ I'd save $25/mo.  It's not a huge amount, though it does add up over time, but I still have access to more channels(some of them good ones not available on Hulu+) and regional sports networks.  At this point, I don't feel the cost is too damn high, though maybe in the future it will be.
 
2013-05-22 08:31:12 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I don't think I will ever understand why people spend so much money and time watching sports.


I don't think I'll ever understand geeky douche bags with no athleticism. Enjoy your comic books.
 
2013-05-22 08:37:30 PM  
It doesn't snow in San Jose and LA, guess both those teams should be contracted, the hell with their dedicated fanbases and constant sell out games! Shut up Chevy, you don't know what you're talking about.
 
2013-05-22 08:55:19 PM  

chevydeuce: Rapmaster2000: I'd rather watch the PBA Tour than hockey.  In fact, I do watch PBA Tour and not hockey.

Same here....

/if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team


WTF? Why do you hate L.A.?
 
2013-05-22 09:13:46 PM  

chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner! It's farking Phoenix!

Absolutely nothing you said has anything to do with the climate of the team's home.

People who live in cold climates have grown up with cold climate activities....people who live in warm climates have grown up with warm climate activities.  I understand there are transplants and all that, but the native population is still pretty large, comparatively.  If they don't know the history of hockey, don't have the knowledge of the game, etc, they are going to be ambivalent, at the most.  In the areas that hockey has always been big, it's still big, but when you're depending on teams in Phoenix or Tampa Bay, you're going to be disappointed in the results.


Why does Dallas have Minnesota's old team, then? Under your reasoning, that would never happen.

/Because you're talking out of your five-hole, that's why.
 
2013-05-22 09:45:44 PM  

dywed88: Gunny Highway: soopey: Also, all baseball and football domes should be demolished.

I am not a big baseball in domes guy but this Spring in Minnesota and Colorado sucked.

As a baseball fan in Canada, retractable roofs are where it is at. The best of both worlds. You can have a great afternoon in the sun, but when it is bad you have shelter and very few lost games.


Can't let you Canadians have all the fun as far as those are concerned

a.espncdn.com
 
2013-05-22 10:12:12 PM  

hockeyfarker: Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.

5. moving to Switzerland during the second round. Convincing a local bar to stay "open" way past closing time on a weekday, in order to watch game 7 of the SCF, going home at 5AM, and then going to work.


I don't care that we lost to a Florida team. a team with Martin St. Louis in the best year of his career kinda hurt. good job on that one, Flames management.


6) Living a year in Australia and having several friends over for game 7 at 3 or so in the morning and sharing an 80 dollar AUD case of blue (which I hate but my girlfriend bought me thinking she was doing me a favour... Cause it's Canadian eh?) And having them watch me have a mild tantrum.
 
2013-05-22 11:14:42 PM  

inclemency: 6) Living a year in Australia and having several friends over for game 7 at 3 or so in the morning and sharing an 80 dollar AUD case of blue (which I hate but my girlfriend bought me thinking she was doing me a favour... Cause it's Canadian eh?) And having them watch me have a mild tantrum.


Youtube video of your tantrum?
 
2013-05-22 11:45:57 PM  

inclemency: hockeyfarker: Gunny Highway: PowerSlacker: hockeyfarker: your list is wrong. Tampa Bay did not win the Stanley Cup.

What hurts more?
1.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team.
2.  Losing the Cup to a farking Florida team coached by Torts.
3.  Watching Darryl Sutter win the cup with LA after the Flames let him go.

4. Being the dork at the Senior Class of 2004 event sitting on the back of the swanky boat dinner with the hand held television watching your team lose. In Rhode Island.

5. moving to Switzerland during the second round. Convincing a local bar to stay "open" way past closing time on a weekday, in order to watch game 7 of the SCF, going home at 5AM, and then going to work.


I don't care that we lost to a Florida team. a team with Martin St. Louis in the best year of his career kinda hurt. good job on that one, Flames management.

6) Living a year in Australia and having several friends over for game 7 at 3 or so in the morning and sharing an 80 dollar AUD case of blue (which I hate but my girlfriend bought me thinking she was doing me a favour... Cause it's Canadian eh?) And having them watch me have a mild tantrum.


7) Enjoying my team winning the Stanley Cup that year while breaking up with my biatch of a girlfriend.
 
2013-05-23 12:32:38 AM  

Di Atribe: Car racing but ONLY if I'm watching with someone who can answer questions


what farking questions can you have about car racing?

"What happens if someone turns right instead?"
"What car is the chick in?"
"What logo is fastest?"
"Do they need a rear facing child seat in those things?"
"How many people had to be lifeflighted out today?"

Really, what?
 
2013-05-23 01:47:40 AM  

poughdrew: inclemency: 6) Living a year in Australia and having several friends over for game 7 at 3 or so in the morning and sharing an 80 dollar AUD case of blue (which I hate but my girlfriend bought me thinking she was doing me a favour... Cause it's Canadian eh?) And having them watch me have a mild tantrum.

Youtube video of your tantrum?


I wish.
 
2013-05-23 08:46:02 AM  
What else is ESPN going to show?  They keep losing the rights to sports that were used to fill that time to other networks.
 
2013-05-23 10:03:58 AM  

groppet: Gunny Highway: spman: Also, does ESPN 2 still show Magic the Gathering?

Replaced by Cross Fit championships.  I still miss the Mini Golf championships.

Mini Golf was funny especially when they took it so serious.


Didn't they wear 'putting' gloves? I can't remember,  I was amused by how serious they took it too but I think the winner took home a good chunk of change.
 
2013-05-23 10:21:41 AM  

Emperor_Tod: What else is ESPN going to show?  They keep losing the rights to sports that were used to fill that time to other networks.


It's kind of amazing if you think about it:
NFL playoffs - nothing on ESPN or ABC
MLB playoffs - 1 game on ESPN (none in recent years)
NBA playoffs - half on ESPN/ABC, no Finals games on ESPN
NHL playoffs - nothing on ESPN or ABC
NCAA tournament - nothing on ESPN or ABC

Of the big six team sports (counting college basketball and football), the only one which plays its title games on ESPN is college football.
 
2013-05-23 10:53:22 AM  
Can some hockey fan explain to me why the Blue Jackets are doing so terribly as a franchise?  On paper it sounds great--they have the whole state to draw from and it's a cold-weather state.  It seemed a lot more obvious for an expansion team than Florida.
 
2013-05-23 11:26:21 AM  

swankywanky: PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!

Actually, it's Glendale.  Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.

I actually did not know that - I do know that the Tampa Bay Rays have a similar issue; by the time you get from Tampa down to the stadium you could have driven to Orlando.


Someone failed basic geography.
 
2013-05-23 12:10:44 PM  

Tradskinzd: swankywanky: PowerSlacker: chevydeuce: Di Atribe: chevydeuce: /if it doesn't snow at least 12" a year in a metropolitan area, it shouldn't have a farking hockey team

Why not?

Because it dilutes the product if a large portion of the population in the surrounding area don't give two farks about your team....The teams biatch because nobody pays attention to their team...well no shiat Mr. Phoenix Coyotes owner!  It's farking Phoenix!

Actually, it's Glendale.  Were the Coyotes located in Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tempe, they would be much better off.

I actually did not know that - I do know that the Tampa Bay Rays have a similar issue; by the time you get from Tampa down to the stadium you could have driven to Orlando.

Someone failed basic geography.


nope, (and was being facetious about the I-4 drive), but ex is from Clearwater and I lived down that way for a bit - and the #1 complaint I always heard was "I'd go to more game, but it's such a pain to get to with traffic."   Football people will drive to knowing they are going to tailgate and spend some time.  Baseball crowds don't generally do this.
 
2013-05-23 01:48:17 PM  

derpy: Di Atribe: Car racing but ONLY if I'm watching with someone who can answer questions

what farking questions can you have about car racing?

"What happens if someone turns right instead?"
"What car is the chick in?"
"What logo is fastest?"
"Do they need a rear facing child seat in those things?"
"How many people had to be lifeflighted out today?"

Really, what?


Hehehe

i27.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-23 04:15:43 PM  
Which is kind of funny, because when ever I see ESPN on a TV set when I go out at lunch during the day, ESPN only seems to show talking heads talking about sports instead of actually, you know, showing sports.
 
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