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(Minnesota Public Radio)   Boss shows employees porn and asks them to hook him up with their friends. Judges "not sure" if that's sexual harassment   (minnesota.publicradio.org) divider line 25
    More: Asinine, Minnesota Supreme Court, Brian Zapolski, MHRA, silica fume  
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2013-05-22 03:50:41 PM  
"The fact that Zapolski directed inappropriate, sexual comments at both male and female employees... cannot support the district court's determination that the conduct was not sufficiently severe..."

What is Zapolski swings both ways, AC-DC?
 
2013-05-22 03:52:15 PM  
So I can sexually harass women in the workplace if I do the same to men?

Cool. Good to know.

Guys like playing grab-ass anyways, so its not gonna be hard to convince them to do shiat like that.
 
2013-05-22 04:11:36 PM  
So this is the douchebag loophole to sexual harassment laws ?
 
2013-05-22 05:04:44 PM  
I thought it was only sexual harassment if you tie the abuse to a job or promotion? In other words, its NOT legal to whip out your dick and say "suck this or you're fired" it IS legal (however inappropriate) to whip out your dick and say "suck this".

I could be wrong.
 
2013-05-22 05:10:35 PM  

vernonFL: I thought it was only sexual harassment if you tie the abuse to a job or promotion? In other words, its NOT legal to whip out your dick and say "suck this or you're fired" it IS legal (however inappropriate) to whip out your dick and say "suck this".

I could be wrong.


Yeah, depending on if you are the big boss or a lowly employee with an employee hand book and a HR department and such.

/I'd like to know more about the background of this before I made up my mind
//did they quit because of this?
//were they fired for just cause and thought this was an ace up their sleeve?
////circumstances of the case?
 
2013-05-22 05:49:14 PM  

vernonFL: I thought it was only sexual harassment if you tie the abuse to a job or promotion? In other words, its NOT legal to whip out your dick and say "suck this or you're fired" it IS legal (however inappropriate) to whip out your dick and say "suck this".

I could be wrong.


Well - it would likely be called a hostile work environment by a reasonable person, which is the usual standard, even if there was no overt threat of demotion/termination.  Sorry - no whipping it out.  (Note the "or" below).

From the EEOC:
It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person's sex. Harassment can include "sexual harassment" or unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature.

Harassment does not have to be of a sexual nature, however, and can include offensive remarks about a person's sex. For example, it is illegal to harass a woman by making offensive comments about women in general.

Both victim and the harasser can be either a woman or a man, and the victim and harasser can be the same sex.

Although the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.
 
2013-05-22 05:50:07 PM  

vernonFL: I thought it was only sexual harassment if you tie the abuse to a job or promotion? In other words, its NOT legal to whip out your dick and say "suck this or you're fired" it IS legal (however inappropriate) to whip out your dick and say "suck this".

I could be wrong.


I think your example would be sexual harassment. However, if you tell me as dirty joke today, you can't complain about me telling you a dirty joke tomorrow. I think.
 
2013-05-22 05:59:08 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: vernonFL: I thought it was only sexual harassment if you tie the abuse to a job or promotion? In other words, its NOT legal to whip out your dick and say "suck this or you're fired" it IS legal (however inappropriate) to whip out your dick and say "suck this".

I could be wrong.

I think your example would be sexual harassment. However, if you tell me as dirty joke today, you can't complain about me telling you a dirty joke tomorrow. I think.


The original example is criminal and you can get fired for it, regardless of it's status in regards to sexual harassment.

Laws vary and I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure if I tell you a dirty joke every day and you eventually claim it created a hostile working environment but you were too afraid to confront me (particularly if you had noticed others face negative consequences for confronting me) it can be sexual harassment.

The best way for (a man) avoiding sexual harassment accusations:

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-22 06:06:51 PM  
Is this sexual harassment week on fark?  At least with this one is there's no question on who's right.
 
2013-05-22 06:09:42 PM  
what about sexual hisassment?
 
2013-05-22 07:31:29 PM  
BBB funnels more funding to local GOP candidate to defund local public radio in 3 ... 2 ... 1.
 
2013-05-22 07:36:05 PM  
 
2013-05-22 07:37:45 PM  

russlar: what about sexual hisassment?


That's always allowed.
 
2013-05-22 08:01:39 PM  

valkore: What every company's sexual harassment policy video should be (NSFW-ish)


As funny as that was, it actually does a good job of showing "This is definitely not cool. Do not do this to any co-worker." Some people need to have it spelled out in basic ABCs, ala "Do not try to have sex with anyone you work with. It almost NEVER works out for the best."

/Weird factoid: when I was in broadcast school, we were actually required to mispronounce the word as "harris-ment" because the correct pronunciation sounds like "Her-Ass-Ment." I still hear that intentional mispronunciation of "harris-ment" used on air every rare once in a while.
 
2013-05-22 08:41:20 PM  

WordyGrrl: /Weird factoid: when I was in broadcast school, we were actually required to mispronounce the word as "harris-ment" because the correct pronunciation sounds like "Her-Ass-Ment." I still hear that intentional mispronunciation of "harris-ment" used on air every rare once in a while.



I prefer the intentional mispronounciation.  It sounds so much more romantic.
 
2013-05-22 08:48:05 PM  

WordyGrrl: /Weird factoid: when I was in broadcast school, we were actually required to mispronounce the word as "harris-ment" because the correct pronunciation sounds like "Her-Ass-Ment." I still hear that intentional mispronunciation of "harris-ment" used on air every rare once in a while.


I've only heard "ha-RASS-ment."  "Harris-ment" sounds British, and "her-ass-ment" sounds like a 12 year-old.
 
2013-05-22 08:58:17 PM  
Sexual harrassment via a third party?
 
2013-05-22 09:07:05 PM  
Was I wrong, was I not supposed to do that?
 
2013-05-22 09:56:33 PM  
Didnt Michael Scott do both of these things?
 
2013-05-22 10:12:30 PM  
The old "cup check" is now worth its weight in gold.
 
2013-05-22 10:50:42 PM  
Corporate personhood trumps individual rights; your indignation is invalid.
 
2013-05-23 01:43:29 AM  
The fact that the Minnesota Supreme Court had to overrule the morons at the district cout on something pretty damned clear-cut should be a call to someone in the legislature to investigate why the district court could make such a bone-headed ruling.
 
2013-05-23 03:09:06 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-23 08:41:52 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: WordyGrrl: /Weird factoid: when I was in broadcast school, we were actually required to mispronounce the word as "harris-ment" because the correct pronunciation sounds like "Her-Ass-Ment." I still hear that intentional mispronunciation of "harris-ment" used on air every rare once in a while.

I've only heard "ha-RASS-ment."  "Harris-ment" sounds British, and "her-ass-ment" sounds like a 12 year-old.


Never underestimate the allure of the challenge to cuss secretly on air and get away with it. "The weather forecast for the capital shiatty..." "Your station for the best tits of the 70s, 80s and today."
 
2013-05-23 08:31:26 PM  

WordyGrrl: BarkingUnicorn: WordyGrrl: /Weird factoid: when I was in broadcast school, we were actually required to mispronounce the word as "harris-ment" because the correct pronunciation sounds like "Her-Ass-Ment." I still hear that intentional mispronunciation of "harris-ment" used on air every rare once in a while.

I've only heard "ha-RASS-ment."  "Harris-ment" sounds British, and "her-ass-ment" sounds like a 12 year-old.

Never underestimate the allure of the challenge to cuss secretly on air and get away with it. "The weather forecast for the capital shiatty..." "Your station for the best tits of the 70s, 80s and today."


I gotta admit that'd be pretty ballsy fun
www.thefreshvince.com

/I've done the meow game a few times during stints as tech support
//QA fortunately never heard those calls or never called me to the carpet for it
 
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