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YoOjo: From Twitter user Boya Dee - 'Ohhhhh myyyy God!!!! I just see a man with his head chopped off right in front of my eyes!'Oh my God!!!! The way Feds took them out!!! It was a female police officer she come out the whip and just started bussssin shots!!'Mate ive seen alot of s*** im my time but that has to rank sumwhere in the top 3. I couldnt believe my eyes. That was some movie s***.'The two black bredas run this white guy over over then hop out the car and start chopping mans head off with machete!!'People were asking whyyy whyyy they were just saying we've had enough! They looked like they were on sutn! Then they start waving a recolver'Then boydem turn up!! Woolwich feds didnt want it... They had to wait for armed response.. Helicopters everyting...'Then thats how u know they were on sutn cos they actually went for armed feds with just two machete and an old rusty lookin revolver'The first guy goes for the female fed with the machete and she not even ramping she took man out like robocop never seen nutn like it'Then the next breda try buss off the rusty 45 and it just backfires and blows mans finger clean off... Feds didnt pet to just take him out!!'These times i was just going to the shop for some fruit and veg and i see all that!'
jst3p: dittybopper: fireclown: dittybopper: Yes, too smart and too decent. Right. Followed UK politics at all? Ever watched Prime Minister's Questions?I know that a lot of brit politicians consider PM questions to be a waste of the PMs time in that he or she has to spend hours prepping, but I would LOVE to see it instituted here in the US.I actually like the idea myself. It just seems so AMERICAN to hurl hostile questions at the head of the government.It would never work for the same reason our presidential debates are awful: pivot.
super_grass: A note to all the fark racists: two people do not represent more than a million followers, and it's not fair to judge an entire faith based on two people. Do McVeigh or abortion clinic bombers represent all christians? No.The victims in the long run will of course be immigrants as racist, right-wing parties like UKIP try to use this excuse to clamp down on immigration.
humanshrapnel: That was the last time I even bothered with watching something like that. You just can't unsee that shiat.
serialsuicidebomber: Word to the wise:Guys, if a muslim asks you 'Wanna neck?' he might not be gay.
willfullyobscure: Just soooo relieved it was white guys this time you guys. So happy.
Katolu: AirForceVet: Fade2black: Nothing to be outraged about here, Liberals. He wasn't white and he didn't use a gun.Crawl back under your rock.No shiat, what a dick.
Savage Belief: Wow. I thought only US cops shot people for filming them.
lockers: From the brilliant analysis: "The case for this being a jihadist attack, following the ideology of al-Qaeda, is compelling - even if the police won't yet say so officially."I like how lone nutjob is now equivalent to insidious terrorist plot. I guess when you have a permanent war on an imagined political phantom, every minor crime must be part of it to encourage it's maintenance. I see the same shiat on the local news and refuse to accept this as terrorism at all.
vernonFL: lennavan: What a Cobra meeting might look like:[cartoonoveranalyzations.files.wordpress.com image 400x308]
lennavan: What a Cobra meeting might look like:
Greymalkin: To state that Islam is not related to terrorism in a significant way is just delusional, and yes there are non-muslim terrorists, eg. the aforementioned communist/marxist ones in Turkey, the IRA, ETA etc, but the number of terrorists in the world today that are muslim so far outweighs the others, that being terrorist and not muslim is noteworthy by its exception.
Sir_Spanksalot: Don't like the western world?? Then get out! Sick of you Shiatholes trying to turn western nations into the crap holes you fled.
bleckdoyle: CEGORACH: Get out of the Middle East and within a month or two you'll never see another terrorist action because they will be too busy killing each other for the next fifty years to worry about coming over to your nation, and your domestic crop will all bugger off back home to lend a hand. Give them five years of it and you can even help install a few strongmen and then it's back to business as usual.You need to study Islam a bit. This was another tiny part of a large war that has been going on since Islam was founded 1400 years ago. It is a war that will never end until Islam is de-legitimated and left on the trash heap of history. Islam means "submission" and its goal is to make the entire world Muslim. There will always be Muslims and Leftists who will find excuses and rationalizations for Muslims subjugating, repressing, beating, maiming, torturing and killing non-believers, as well as other Muslims. The fact is that the religion was founded on violence and terror and justifies violence and terror to achieve its goals. It is estimated that over 200 million people have died in Muslim wars of conquest since the 700s. Those wars of conquest are continuing to this day. Just ask non-believers places like Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Mali, Indonesia, Thailand, Nigeria, Kenya, Pakistan, Egypt, Lebanon, Bangladesh, India, East Timor, Sri Lanka, Syria, Israel, The Philippines, Macedonia, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Spain, Russia, China, India, etc.Islam cannot exist in harmony with other religions and cultures because it is a supremacist ideology which exhorts its followers to make the entire world submit to Islam, one way or the other.Open your eyes.Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in A ...
gadian: high capacity fire arms
Mellotiger: untaken_name: Mellotiger: Has terrorism ever worked? Even once in the modern era? I mean, these are not small groups terrorists go up against, do they really expect millions of people to be like "oh man, we better do what these people say or they will kill a few of us every now and then!" It really just doesn't seem likely.I dunno, 12 guys from Saudi Arabia managed to cost America untold billions of dollars and an ever-increasing number of their rights. Supposedly, terrorists hate us for our freedom, and now we're no longer free, so they have accomplished their mission. If that's not "working", I have no idea what "working" would look like.Point taken, but I don't think the right to not be searched before boarding an airplane is what they wanted to change. We still have religious freedom, women are still driving cars and voting, media is still "westernized"....isn't that the things they are against? Did they really go through all that just to tighten up flight security and make wire-taps a bit more common? I doubt it. That's why I say it didn't work.
cegorach: you're just as backwards-ass ignorant as some AK-toting hick from a hillside in Afghanistan.
PartTimeBuddha: Bontesla: Implicit in using fear as leverage in order to achieve a political goal is some sort of plan.This is the problem I'm having with it. Where is the fear? What am I meant to be afraid of?
JabbaTheButt: Wake up. As this murderer said, Islam is at war with the West.
weltallica: [i.imgur.com image 512x384]White IRA terrorists kill thousands in bombings over the decades, and no one worries. But if two black men kill one white man, and cry "something something Allah"... then EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS.
The_Original_Roxtar: does the UK have a method of legally getting a concealed pistol permit?
Bontesla: lennavan: Bontesla: Murdering the cadet was the goal - and he justified that goal politically.If murder was the sole goal, then why did he stick around and seek out cameras to make a statement?Bontesla: But how is this attack being used as leverage to prevent the British soldiers from killing his people?You don't understand how the threat of beheading random citizens in the streets until British soldiers stop killing his people counts as leverage?I can't help you dude. You're too far derp.Why did he stick around? Some people like to explain their motivation. Some people like a grand exit. Some people are nutters. I never argued that he was a man without reasons - merely that his reasons don't quite fit terrorism.I understand the point that you're trying to make: he committed an act that creates fear and that act was motivated by a political reason therefore he committed the act in an attempt to achieve his political goal.His rantings could be interpreted to be an act of retribution. He wasn't making a specific threat or promise that every would be subject to something similar until the British stopped killing his med. He wasn't working with anyone to carry out goals (that we know of). Effectively, the threat ended with him. Either he had no goal or the murder was the goal.
Bontesla: lennavan: Bontesla: **SNIP**His rantings could be interpreted to be an act of retribution. He wasn't making a specific threat or promise that every would be subject to something similar until the British stopped killing his med. He wasn't working with anyone to carry out goals (that we know of). Effectively, the threat ended with him. Either he had no goal or the murder was the goal.
StrikitRich: I'm sure mere bullets won't stop The Kurgan
super_grass: *Sign*A lot of sheltered people here, being bigoted as fark.Would you support eugenics against black people because you heard reports of them committing a crime?
omnibus_necanda_suntAnd nobody gives a shiat about the Balkans.
OnlyM3: super_grass2013-05-22 04:10:25 PMA note to all the fark racists: two people do not represent more than a million followers, and it's not fair to judge an entire faith based on two people. Do McVeigh or abortion clinic bombers represent all christians? No.From the same person who spent weeks searching Tea-Party protests for the 1 racist (who was kicked the fark out) in order to flood fark with that one image.... while ignoring the hundreds of black faces protesting peacefully.
super_grass2013-05-22 04:10:25 PMA note to all the fark racists: two people do not represent more than a million followers, and it's not fair to judge an entire faith based on two people. Do McVeigh or abortion clinic bombers represent all christians? No.
AdolfOliverPanties: And exactly WHERE was Obama? Doing nothing...AGAIN!
Joe BlowmeBut it's only terrorism when muslims do it? Your beyond a stupid douche.
omnibus_necanda_sunt: And for Christ's sake, don't pretend there isn't a strong undercurrent of racism involved in Islamophobia. How many times does "white people" come to mind when you say the word "Muslim"? The Daily Show did an entire bit on how freaking weird white Muslims are and how America had trouble assimilating it post-Boston.And nobody gives a shiat about the Balkans.
omnibus_necanda_sunt: 21-7-b: at the moment we have nothing to go on, but it's likely something, or someone, radicalized them.Meth?
Smeggy Smurf: DeadPuppySociety: Smeggy Smurf: Religion of PeaceAren't they all?I'm pretty sure Pastafarians practice peace
super_grass: A note to all the fark racists...
Smeggy Smurf: Religion of Peace
fireclown: Wow. When I read the headline, I thought that this was some kind of charity pig roast or something. This is simply awful. Best wishes to all involved.
gadian: James!: "strong indications that it is a terrorist incident"Aw, I'm sorry. You didn't say "terrorist act" that'll be 9 months of scandal.Came here to say basically the same thing, but insinuate that the English are too smart and too decent for that.
ChipNASA: Smeggy Smurf: Religion of Peaces/ftfy
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