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(Pro Football Talk)   Cowboys want Romo to emulate Peyton Manning, stop emulating Mark Sanchez   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com ) divider line
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2013-05-22 03:38:23 PM  
And I want Jerry Jones to emulate Anne Frank... go hide in your room and keep quiet.
 
2013-05-22 03:48:01 PM  
Mark Sanchez has won a playoff game.
 
2013-05-22 03:49:01 PM  

Weigard: Mark Sanchez has won a playoff game.


Romo has too. Keep up.
 
2013-05-22 03:50:07 PM  

Di Atribe: Weigard: Mark Sanchez has won a playoff game.

Romo has too. Keep up.


i291.photobucket.com
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2013-05-22 03:51:25 PM  
So they want him to throw the soul crush season ending pick in the playoffs, not the regular season?
 
2013-05-22 03:57:32 PM  
That's racist
 
2013-05-22 04:00:03 PM  
There are a few things wrong with this subject, this article & its subsequent sharing with the Farkiverse.

1) Jerry made the remark about "Peyton Manning Time" about a month ago. Is it just now news because Manning acknowledged the remark?

2) I think we all know that Peyton Manning is awesome and more QB's could stand to emulate him. I realize this is Fark, but seriously, really not news, guys.

3) Jerry running his mouth about putting in "Peyton Manning Time" is a big swing from "We're gonna make this team Romo-friendly." It kind of throws Romo under the bus, no matter what. If the Cowboys suck or are mediocre again, "Well I guess Romo should've done more Peyton Manning-ing." If they are successful, "Look how acting like Peyton Manning benefited the team." And I don't care if you guys like Romo or the Cowboys or whatever. You don't undermine your QB like that. But I'm not going to try to figure that out because....

4) Nobody in that front office has any idea what's going on. They've been asked repeatedly who is calling the plays next season. There has been not one single direct answer. You guys know I follow the Cowboys. I read articles, listen to press conferences, and no amount of Sherlocking is going to make any of this make sense. There could be something genius brewing under the gauzy facade, but that's fairly unlikely.
 
2013-05-22 04:00:03 PM  
So they want him to...aww, nuts.
 
2013-05-22 04:00:40 PM  

timujin: And I want Jerry Jones to emulate Anne Frank... go hide in your room and keep quiet.


I'm told this is the year Jerry turns it all around.
 
2013-05-22 04:01:58 PM  

Treygreen13: Di Atribe: Weigard: Mark Sanchez has won a playoff game.

Romo has too. Keep up.

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Well I mean seriously, if you're gonna come in here & compare Romo to Sanchez, the least you can do is get your shiat straight.
 
2013-05-22 04:07:18 PM  
Did Romo butt-fumble when I wasn't looking?

Comparisons between him and Sanchez are inappropriate until Romo does something remotely as epicly failtastic.
 
2013-05-22 04:08:26 PM  
I have no doubt Tony Romo can emulate Peyton Maning.

I have serious doubts, however, that he could emulate Peyton Manning. Or Eli "Two-Rings" Manning. The closest would be Archie in his prime, because that's a dude who spent a lot of time running like hell thanks to no O-line, and trying to make something out of nothing.
 
2013-05-22 04:09:39 PM  

Di Atribe: Well I mean seriously, if you're gonna come in here & compare Romo to Sanchez, the least you can do is get your shiat straight.


Exactly. Sanchez has won FOUR playoff games, more than Romo, Wilson, and Matt Ryan combined.
 
2013-05-22 04:13:11 PM  

IAmRight: Di Atribe: Well I mean seriously, if you're gonna come in here & compare Romo to Sanchez, the least you can do is get your shiat straight.

Exactly. Sanchez has won FOUR playoff games, more than Romo, Wilson, and Matt Ryan combined.


That's right. Compare Romo to a guy with an equal number of skins on his wall:

Tebow.
 
2013-05-22 04:15:30 PM  

Di Atribe: There are a few things wrong with this subject, this article & its subsequent sharing with the Farkiverse.

1) Jerry made the remark about "Peyton Manning Time" about a month ago. Is it just now news because Manning acknowledged the remark?

2) I think we all know that Peyton Manning is awesome and more QB's could stand to emulate him. I realize this is Fark, but seriously, really not news, guys.

3) Jerry running his mouth about putting in "Peyton Manning Time" is a big swing from "We're gonna make this team Romo-friendly." It kind of throws Romo under the bus, no matter what. If the Cowboys suck or are mediocre again, "Well I guess Romo should've done more Peyton Manning-ing." If they are successful, "Look how acting like Peyton Manning benefited the team." And I don't care if you guys like Romo or the Cowboys or whatever. You don't undermine your QB like that. But I'm not going to try to figure that out because....

4) Nobody in that front office has any idea what's going on. They've been asked repeatedly who is calling the plays next season. There has been not one single direct answer. You guys know I follow the Cowboys. I read articles, listen to press conferences, and no amount of Sherlocking is going to make any of this make sense. There could be something genius brewing under the gauzy facade, but that's fairly unlikely.


It's become clear it's all politics, and aligning with Jerry - a man who has lost a coherent, achievable vision.  It's not about winning, and hasn't been for a while.  Every season, it dips a bit further into desperation.  At this point, they've lost the idea of actual "football operations" or "team".  They have a talented (if flawed) QB, and enough talent and name recognition to build a long-term engine.  But they're all swimming in Jello - no support structure, no direction, no "in-charge" coach at the top, and no consistency in direction and philosophy

I've been a Cowboys fan all of my life, but I see zero ways out of this until Jerry is out.  I can't muster any more enthusiasm for this team until there's a change at the top.
 
2013-05-22 04:16:29 PM  

IAmRight: Exactly. Sanchez has won FOUR playoff games, more than Romo, Wilson, and Matt Ryan combined.


Comparing "playoff wins" when talking about individual players is dumb. People don't win games, TEAMS do.

But if we want to talk individual stats, we can do that.

Romo QB rating for 2012: 90.5
Sanchez QB rating for 2012: 66.9

Yeah, comparable players. Totally.
 
2013-05-22 04:16:50 PM  

IAmRight: Di Atribe: Well I mean seriously, if you're gonna come in here & compare Romo to Sanchez, the least you can do is get your shiat straight.

Exactly. Sanchez has won FOUR playoff games, more than Romo, Wilson, and Matt Ryan combined.


Further proving that number of playoff wins doesn't prove anything.
 
2013-05-22 04:17:10 PM  
Is Sanchez *really* that awful? QBs are pretty reliant on the talent around them.

And Romo is underrated. There. I said it. A career passer rating of 95.6 and a 177-91 TD/INT ratio elevates him.
 
2013-05-22 04:20:42 PM  

Wadded Beef: Is Sanchez *really* that awful? QBs are pretty reliant on the talent around them.


Sanchez is pretty awful.
s10.postimg.org
 
2013-05-22 04:21:09 PM  

Khellendros: I've been a Cowboys fan all of my life, but I see zero ways out of this until Jerry is out. I can't muster any more enthusiasm for this team until there's a change at the top.


I still have enthusiasm for the team. I haven't run out yet. But I've learned to be realistic about them. It's gone from "Yeah, this is our year!" to "I hope we don't fark up too badly."

I agree with everything else you said. Jerry has deviated so far off track that nobody knows where we are any more.
 
2013-05-22 04:23:00 PM  

Treygreen13: IAmRight: Di Atribe: Well I mean seriously, if you're gonna come in here & compare Romo to Sanchez, the least you can do is get your shiat straight.

Exactly. Sanchez has won FOUR playoff games, more than Romo, Wilson, and Matt Ryan combined.

Further proving that number of playoff wins doesn't prove anything.


Of course it's stupid. But you guys were the ones that demanded accuracy in inane statements, so I brought the accuracy.

If we want to get technical, I'd point out that Sanchez has a better postseason winning percentage than Peyton, so maybe Romo should strive to be more like him.

/I don't think Romo is a bad QB
//I don't think Sanchez is as terrible as people make him out to be, either - there's no talent on that offense.
 
2013-05-22 04:24:41 PM  

Neeek: Did Romo butt-fumble when I wasn't looking?

Comparisons between him and Sanchez are inappropriate until Romo does something remotely as epicly failtastic.


Well, when it comes to each player's most embarrassing moment, it's -

i63.photobucket.com

vs.

3.bp.blogspot.com

YMMV.

/really ought to be a gif of Romo's bobble somewhere, hmm
 
2013-05-22 04:25:35 PM  
ESPN now reporting Michael Crabtree has a torn Achilles and is out for six months.
 
2013-05-22 04:35:42 PM  

robsul82: /really ought to be a gif of Romo's bobble somewhere, hmm


Don't think anyone has video from that angle. I've seen sort of an overhead shot. I'm the guy that can throw together gifs but I am *not* going to do that one.

Anyway, the Romo snap fumble really speaks to the fact that he isn't a great field-goal holder.
 
2013-05-22 04:36:06 PM  

IAmRight: Of course it's stupid. But you guys were the ones that demanded accuracy in inane statements, so I brought the accuracy.


Yeah, as soon as I posted that primary comment, I realized my tactical mistake. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND I AM SORRY


robsul82: /really ought to be a gif of Romo's bobble somewhere, hmm


And while we're talking honesty, let's point out the differences in these two scenarios.

One was acting in the role of quarterback, the other was not.

One was committed in the first year of active play, while the other occurred in that player's 4th.

One made a concerted effort to correct the mistake, while the other fumbled the ball away to the other team and I believe that other team scored.

So are they really comparable? I mean..... are they, rob?
 
2013-05-22 04:37:42 PM  
Wow, lots of Romo butthurt in this thread.

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2013-05-22 04:38:34 PM  

Di Atribe: So are they really comparable? I mean..... are they, rob?


Hey, I didn't pass judgment!  lol
 
2013-05-22 04:42:41 PM  

abhorrent1: Wow, lots of Romo butthurt in this thread.

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How is stating facts "butthurt?" Are you one of those people who hears something they don't like and just starts quacking "BUTTHURT BUTTHURT BUTTHURT" all over the place because it's easier than dealing with reality? Because if it is, boy have I got a website for you.
 
2013-05-22 04:45:51 PM  

robsul82: Di Atribe: So are they really comparable? I mean..... are they, rob?

Hey, I didn't pass judgment!  lol


Suuuuuuuuuuuuure

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2013-05-22 04:48:47 PM  

Di Atribe: robsul82: Di Atribe: So are they really comparable? I mean..... are they, rob?

Hey, I didn't pass judgment!  lol

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure

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YMMV is exactly that, lady!  Haha.
 
2013-05-22 04:55:27 PM  
Does that mean that "Jerrah" is going to let him call his own farkin' plays?
 
2013-05-22 04:59:55 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: Does that mean that "Jerrah" is going to let him call his own farkin' plays?


I think Jerrah finally realized that being the 2nd worst rushing team in the league isn't working out so well for the Cowboys. While Romo is (at times) absurdly elusive and can make something out of nothing, he can't make something out of nothing for 3 quarters for 16 games.
 
2013-05-22 05:02:09 PM  
Dear Mr. Jones,

Please sell the Cowboys and buy the Houston Texans.  That team is on the verge of being consistently successful and I think they need your "special" skills and experience to get them over that final hurdle.

Sincerely,

All Indianapolis Colts Fans

P.S. QBs don't win playoff games, football teams win football games.
P.P.S   The above line isn't really for you Mr. Jones, rather knuckleheads who overstate the importance of the QB position as it relates to wins and losses
 
2013-05-22 05:10:35 PM  

robsul82: So they want him to...aww, nuts.


No, that was Favre.
 
2013-05-22 05:32:35 PM  

Coach_J: P.P.S   The above line isn't really for you Mr. Jones, rather knuckleheads who overstate the importance of the QB position as it relates to wins and losses


It's perfectly fine to do it as long as you acknowledge that you're trolling rather than actually thinking there's significant value in W-L defining a QB.
 
2013-05-22 05:44:54 PM  
He's a 33 year old QB. At this stage in his career, he is who he is. He's not going to suddenly make a huge shift in his preparation or playing aptitude, whether that's emulating Peyton Manning or emulating Joey Harrington.
 
2013-05-22 05:46:50 PM  
While we are comparing all things Romo vs all things Sanchez, let's take a look at offensive weapons:

Tony Romo

RB
DeMarco Murray
Felix Jones

WR
Dez Bryant
Miles Austin
Kevin 'one big game' Ogletree

TE
Jason Witten

vs

Mark Sanchez

RB
Shonn Greene
Bilal Powell

WR
Jeremy Kerley

TE
Jeff Cumberland

BTW I'm only listing people who played for at least half the season and had some sort of impact so no Holmes, Keller or Edwards.
 
2013-05-22 05:58:52 PM  
OK. That's it. Enough already.

I call for the immediate adoption of a "Romo Ratio".

You have a thread that bags on Romo, and it ain't like that's hard to do....you have to have a thread with a similar number of comments/responses making fun of some OTHER facet of the Cowboys organization before you can have another anti-Romo thread.

Lets face it gang, and be real. There's problems in every NFL locker room. There's problems in every NFL organization. Of all the problems the Cowboys have, Romo ain't anyplace near the top right now.  Yea, the whole 'aw shucks' thing he does gets old fast, but for farks sake, he ain't Tebow.

Let it go a bit already, or at least be fair. Pick and Jerrah and Jerrah's kydz that are mucking it up worse every day a couple of times. Even Romo needs a rest every so often. Sheesh!

*feels dirty
 
2013-05-22 06:00:50 PM  

Gonz: I have no doubt Tony Romo can emulate Peyton Maning.

I have serious doubts, however, that he could emulate Peyton Manning.


huh?
 
2013-05-22 06:02:23 PM  

Di Atribe: Treygreen13: Di Atribe: Weigard: Mark Sanchez has won a playoff game.

Romo has too. Keep up.

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Well I mean seriously, if you're gonna come in here & compare Romo to Sanchez, the least you can do is get your shiat straight.


How many times has Romo gotten to the NFC Championship game?  Sanchez has at least gotten to the AFC Championship game, twice, consecutively.
 
2013-05-22 06:02:55 PM  

Uncle Pooky: Gonz: I have no doubt Tony Romo can emulate Peyton Maning.

I have serious doubts, however, that he could emulate Peyton Manning.

huh?


Spelling of "Manning".

/took a couple seconds to notice it myself
 
2013-05-22 06:04:43 PM  

ManateeGag: How many times has Romo gotten to the NFC Championship game? Sanchez has at least gotten to the AFC Championship game, twice, consecutively.


I hate the goddamn Cowboys, but this is a ridiculous comparison. A team achievement isn't an individual achievement.
 
2013-05-22 06:08:36 PM  

kronicfeld: ManateeGag: How many times has Romo gotten to the NFC Championship game? Sanchez has at least gotten to the AFC Championship game, twice, consecutively.

I hate the goddamn Cowboys, but this is a ridiculous comparison. A team achievement isn't an individual achievement.


yeah, but if Romo had a ring and Sanchez did not, it would be the very first argument.
 
2013-05-22 06:16:05 PM  

Di Atribe: I still have enthusiasm for the team. I haven't run out yet. But I've learned to be realistic about them. It's gone from "Yeah, this is our year!" to "I hope we don't fark up too badly."


With parity, nearly all of us have had at least a number of seasons with that feeling. "I know we're not winning the Super Bowl but please just don't embarrass me." Now, my team historically sucked for decades, but yours has a genuine history so you must get more sh*t-talking than I can imagine. I don't even think being a girl helps when it comes to being the recipient of Cowboy hate.

I also think Romo gets a largely unfair rap. For starters, most of his blunders occurred either on national TV or as ESPN documented every screw-up on shows meant to cover the entire league, but were entirely centered on him. Not the FO, not the ways other players failed him, but just Tony Romo. Am pretty sure there was a camera guy and correspondent stuffed in the locker room toilets to document whether last night was chili night. I think most people who watch football regularly understand that he's a good but somewhat flawed player. He's also perfectly serviceable. The true hate is unjustified. At least Tebow gave him a break from some really undeserved scrutiny. But I guess that's the scrutiny you should expect when you sign with "America's Team" (Christ I hate that).

/all these words were posted by a man who genuinely dislikes the Cowboys
//you're one of my favorite Farkers though, so there's that  :)
 
2013-05-22 06:16:16 PM  

ManateeGag: yeah, but if Romo had a ring and Sanchez did not, it would be the very first argument.


First argument for what? My guess is that as soon as Romo has a ring (keep hope alive!), people just might get off his back.
 
2013-05-22 06:23:16 PM  

dickfreckle: //you're one of my favorite Farkers though, so there's that :)


You were right on all points, IMNHO, but this was favorite part. OH YOU!

Ahem. Anyway. People biatch about ESPN until they tell them something they want to hear & then they gulp it down, hook line & sinker. It's a ton of confirmation bias. I bring up facts & make valid arguments only to get called "butthurt." Outside of Fark, I take way more shiat than my male counterparts. Inside of Fark, it's dark and smells like bourbon & broken dreams. Can't remember where I was going with that.... hm.....

/FTR, I hate the America's team thing, too
 
2013-05-22 06:36:53 PM  
Jerry would've loved having Favre, Romo would be better off playing less hero-ball and more game-manager type stuff
 
2013-05-22 06:42:57 PM  

kronicfeld: ManateeGag: How many times has Romo gotten to the NFC Championship game? Sanchez has at least gotten to the AFC Championship game, twice, consecutively.

I hate the goddamn Cowboys, but this is a ridiculous comparison. A team achievement isn't an individual achievement.


Just do what I do when local Cowboys fans start to rag on Romo for playoff wins.

"You know, you make a great point. Romo just isn't a good player until he gets a ring. I'll drink to that!"
*clink*
"Now, we can all agree that Jason Witten is a total beast, amirite? Ha yeah that guy is a guaranteed HoF inductee."
*clink*
"Man, it must be the beers but I can't remember how many rings Jason Witten has. Do you guys remember?"
 
2013-05-22 06:51:19 PM  

kronicfeld: ManateeGag: How many times has Romo gotten to the NFC Championship game? Sanchez has at least gotten to the AFC Championship game, twice, consecutively.

I hate the goddamn Cowboys, but this is a ridiculous comparison. A team achievement isn't an individual achievement.


Hey, some people are so awesome they win conference championships by themselves.

www.posters.ws
 
2013-05-22 06:52:01 PM  

Neeek: Did Romo butt-fumble when I wasn't looking?

Comparisons between him and Sanchez are inappropriate until Romo does something remotely as epicly failtastic.


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