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2013-05-22 01:24:07 PM
This is a Social Welfare Organization:

www.laneseniormeals.org

This is NOT a Social Welfare Organization:


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-22 01:24:57 PM
Oh the places they'll go...in their own minds...
 
2013-05-22 01:26:53 PM
Conservatives create the vast majority of problems that they complain about.........personal responsibility my ass.
 
2013-05-22 01:27:09 PM
Yes, because Congress has one mind in total unity....
 
2013-05-22 01:27:12 PM
because they lack minds?
 
2013-05-22 01:27:35 PM
The IRS should move unilaterally to fix the law

Yeah, they should also fix the law that makes weed illegal.
 
2013-05-22 01:28:29 PM
Republicans are upset that their tax con was getting investigated.
 
2013-05-22 01:29:09 PM

Oh great, another helping from scandalDerp mountain.

Barachemian Rhapsody :

... is this real life

....yes

.... is this just fantasy?

Caught in a whargarbleslide

to escape from BENGHAZI!!!!

Open your eyes, sheeple!

Look up to Issa and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I'm just a lib-'ral, don't need no sympathy...

Because it's Benghazi come, Benghazi go

Little lies, little known

Anyway the ni-BONG goes doesn't really matter to the GOP!

to the GOOOOPPPPPP.....

OBamaaaaaa! Just Droned a maaaaaan!

Put a hellfire to his head, now he's preachin' to the dead

OBamaaaaaa!!! Your 2nd term had juuuuust begunnnn!

And now you've gone and pissed it all awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.....

Obamaaaaa!!!! OoooooOOOOOooooooOOOOOH! You didn't mean to make us cry!

If I'm not back again this time tomorrow. Carry on, carry on, as if Benghazi never mattered....

Too Laaate! Impeachment has come!

John Boehner's on the line, knowin' him he's likely cryin'....

Let's agree everybody, Issa's got to goooooooooo

Gonna leave logic behind to fiiiind "the Truth"

Obamaaaa.... oooOOooooooo (either way this job sucks)

This job sucks and they're really coming after me

(after me) (after meeeeeeeeee)

*guitar solo*

 I see a little teabagger of a man!

Soylndra! Soylndra! Will you Derp the herpaderp?!

IRS and AP. Very very frightening me!

Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal, Rush Limbaugh!)

I am John Carney, now the press hates me

He is John Carney, from a libby state!

Spare him this life from this blood-thirsty press!

Scandal come, scandal go, well Fox let it go...?
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let me goooo!)

WILL NOT LET HIM GO, WILL NOT LET HIM GO (Never)

No, no, no, no, no, nooooo

Oh right-wing media, right-wing media, right-wing media let this go

It won't be long before the GOP wants to impeach, Impeach, IMPEEEEEEACH!

*Change in tempo*

So you think you can impeach me and spit inspit in my eye?

So you think you can loath me and leave me to die?

Oh GOP - Can't do this to me GOP

Just gotta get out - Just gotta get Obamacare implemented!

Ohh yeah, Oohh yeah,
Nothing really matters,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
Nothing really matters...to the GOOPPPppppppppppp

Anyway bengazi blows.....

*gong*


A special thanks to somedude210, wessoman, KingKauff, Celerian, Almost Everybody Pops, deeyablo, Carolus99, Pants full of Macaroni!!, clkeagle, Summercat, ginko, Wyalt Derp and especially LasersHurt, for making all this possible!

 
2013-05-22 01:30:05 PM
because congress, IRS etc consists of human beings who are fickle minded, self serving and reactionary like pretty much every single human person who has ever lived?
 
2013-05-22 01:32:33 PM
the IRS should be investigating ALL 501c(4) organizations that are obviously political in nature, regardless of their party affiliation
 
2013-05-22 01:32:34 PM
Scrutinize everyone, or nobody. Selective, politically motivated and agenda-driven scrutiny is what got the IRS in trouble.

Thats all.
 
2013-05-22 01:32:42 PM

Smoking GNU: Oh great, another helping from scandalDerp mountain.

Barachemian Rhapsody :

... is this real life

....yes

.... is this just fantasy?

Caught in a whargarbleslide

to escape from BENGHAZI!!!!

Open your eyes, sheeple!

Look up to Issa and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I'm just a lib-'ral, don't need no sympathy...

Because it's Benghazi come, Benghazi go

Little lies, little known

Anyway the ni-BONG goes doesn't really matter to the GOP!

to the GOOOOPPPPPP.....

OBamaaaaaa! Just Droned a maaaaaan!

Put a hellfire to his head, now he's preachin' to the dead

OBamaaaaaa!!! Your 2nd term had juuuuust begunnnn!

And now you've gone and pissed it all awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.....

Obamaaaaa!!!! OoooooOOOOOooooooOOOOOH! You didn't mean to make us cry!

If I'm not back again this time tomorrow. Carry on, carry on, as if Benghazi never mattered....

Too Laaate! Impeachment has come!

John Boehner's on the line, knowin' him he's likely cryin'....

Let's agree everybody, Issa's got to goooooooooo

Gonna leave logic behind to fiiiind "the Truth"

Obamaaaa.... oooOOooooooo (either way this job sucks)

This job sucks and they're really coming after me

(after me) (after meeeeeeeeee)

*guitar solo*

 I see a little teabagger of a man!

Soylndra! Soylndra! Will you Derp the herpaderp?!

IRS and AP. Very very frightening me!

Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal, Rush Limbaugh!)

I am John Carney, now the press hates me

He is John Carney, from a libby state!

Spare him this life from this blood-thirsty press!

Scandal come, scandal go, well Fox let it go...?
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let me goooo!)

WILL NOT LET HIM GO, WILL NOT LET HIM GO (Never)

No, no, no, no, no, nooooo

Oh right-wing media, right-wing media, right-wing media let this go

It won't be long before the GOP wants to impeach, Impeach, IMPEEEEEEACH!

*Change in tempo*

So you think you can impeach me and spit inspit in my eye?

So you think you can loath me and leave me to die?

Oh GOP - Can't do this to me GOP

Just gotta get out - Just gotta get Obamacare implemented!

Ohh yeah, Oohh yeah,
Nothing really matters,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
Nothing really matters...to the GOOPPPppppppppppp

Anyway bengazi blows.....

*gong*


A special thanks to somedude210, wessoman, KingKauff, Celerian, Almost Everybody Pops, deeyablo, Carolus99, Pants full of Macaroni!!, clkeagle, Summercat, ginko, Wyalt Derp and especially LasersHurt, for making all this possible!


That's....beautiful.
 
2013-05-22 01:34:49 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Republicans are upset that their tax con was getting investigated.


Yes. They are. You figured it out, or is that the spin that Obama's minions are pushing?

Let TYRANNY RING!!! What a brave new world we live in. One where conservatives can be purged from the discussion and Obama is free to listen in on AP/FoxNews/ and your parents. Enjoy your little utopia.
 
2013-05-22 01:34:56 PM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-22 01:35:11 PM
The original law as passed by Congress, as several Democratic senators noted on Tuesday, says 501(c)(4) organizations must be "exclusively" devoted to charitable, educational or recreational purposes.

Define "educational" and the problem is solved.
 
2013-05-22 01:35:23 PM
Asking for more through examination of political groups and believing that this more intense scruitiny and enforcement should be applied evenly across the political spectrum isn't a contradiction idiotmitter.
 
2013-05-22 01:35:55 PM

kxs401: Smoking GNU: Oh great, another helping from scandalDerp mountain.

Barachemian Rhapsody :

... is this real life

....yes

.... is this just fantasy?

Caught in a whargarbleslide

to escape from BENGHAZI!!!!

Open your eyes, sheeple!

Look up to Issa and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I'm just a lib-'ral, don't need no sympathy...

Because it's Benghazi come, Benghazi go

Little lies, little known

Anyway the ni-BONG goes doesn't really matter to the GOP!

to the GOOOOPPPPPP.....

OBamaaaaaa! Just Droned a maaaaaan!

Put a hellfire to his head, now he's preachin' to the dead

OBamaaaaaa!!! Your 2nd term had juuuuust begunnnn!

And now you've gone and pissed it all awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.....

Obamaaaaa!!!! OoooooOOOOOooooooOOOOOH! You didn't mean to make us cry!

If I'm not back again this time tomorrow. Carry on, carry on, as if Benghazi never mattered....

Too Laaate! Impeachment has come!

John Boehner's on the line, knowin' him he's likely cryin'....

Let's agree everybody, Issa's got to goooooooooo

Gonna leave logic behind to fiiiind "the Truth"

Obamaaaa.... oooOOooooooo (either way this job sucks)

This job sucks and they're really coming after me

(after me) (after meeeeeeeeee)

*guitar solo*

 I see a little teabagger of a man!

Soylndra! Soylndra! Will you Derp the herpaderp?!

IRS and AP. Very very frightening me!

Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal, Rush Limbaugh!)

I am John Carney, now the press hates me

He is John Carney, from a libby state!

Spare him this life from this blood-thirsty press!

Scandal come, scandal go, well Fox let it go...?
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let me goooo!)

WILL NOT LET HIM GO, WILL NOT LET HIM GO (Never)

No, no, no, no, no, nooooo

Oh right-wing media, right-wing media, right-wing media let this go

It won't be long before the GOP wants to impeach, Impeach, IMPEEEEEEACH!

*Change in tempo*

So you think you can impeach me and spit inspit in my eye?

So you think you can loath me and leave me to die?

Oh GOP - Can't do this to me GOP

Just gotta get out - Just gotta get Obamacare implemented!

Ohh yeah, Oohh yeah,
Nothing really matters,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
Nothing really matters...to the GOOPPPppppppppppp

Anyway bengazi blows.....

*gong*


A special thanks to somedude210, wessoman, KingKauff, Celerian, Almost Everybody Pops, deeyablo, Carolus99, Pants full of Macaroni!!, clkeagle, Summercat, ginko, Wyalt Derp and especially LasersHurt, for making all this possible!

That's....beautiful.


It was ok the first time now it seems posted a few times a day.
 
2013-05-22 01:35:57 PM
A Democrat on the House's investigative committee raised the specter of a special prosecutor on Wednesday to investigate political targeting of conservative groups at the IRS from 2010 to 2012.
Rep. Stephen Lynch, Massachusetts Democrat, warned IRS and Treasury Department witnesses before the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform not to stonewall congressional efforts to get to the bottom of the scandal.

"We know where that will lead, it will lead to a special prosecutor. ... There will be hell to pay if that's the route that we choose to go down," he said.


Funny, people on here think it is just the repug's pissed off at the IRS.
Right now, it seems the Dem congress critters are more out for blood than the gop critters.
 
2013-05-22 01:36:09 PM
Let's make this simple: everyone pays taxes!
 
2013-05-22 01:37:09 PM
Horseshiat. The IRS SPECIFICALLY went after groups using words like Teaparty" and "Freedom" and such. Liberal groups applications sailed through.

Stop trying to excuse what happened here. What the IRS did was despicable and unAmerican. This same abuse can happen to YOU snowflakes when the Republicans get back the Whitehouse. You had better start thinking like responsible adults and demand the IRS officials responsible for this outrage be held accountable before it's YOUR pet cause on the chopping block.
 
2013-05-22 01:37:12 PM

BarkingUnicorn: The original law as passed by Congress, as several Democratic senators noted on Tuesday, says 501(c)(4) organizations must be "exclusively" devoted to charitable, educational or recreational purposes.

Define "educational" and the problem is solved.


Well, they're just trying to educate you on the right way to vote. Duh!
 
2013-05-22 01:37:16 PM

o5iiawah: Scrutinize everyone, or nobody. Selective, politically motivated and agenda-driven scrutiny is what got the IRS in trouble.

Thats all.


No. What got the IRS in trouble was not realizing just how crazy the Tebaggers are, and how they go insane over stuff like arugula and mustard. Because for most people, a blatantly political group registering for tax-exempt status is worthy of investigation. Just the IRS doing their job. Pity their funding for proper staffing and proper supervisors was cut.
 
2013-05-22 01:39:08 PM

Wellon Dowd: Let's make this simple: everyone pays taxes!


So crazy, it just might work.
 
2013-05-22 01:39:08 PM

Wellon Dowd: Let's make this simple: everyone pays taxes!


Whoa there, partner.....that's racist talk!
 
2013-05-22 01:39:15 PM
Sounds like dating a woman.
 
2013-05-22 01:40:14 PM
images.politico.com

"Hey Trevor, do I have to file an application to the IRS for my 501(c)(4)?"

cloudfront.mediamatters.org

"No. You don't need to apply to the IRS for 501(c)(4) status. The only benefit is a cheaper rate for buying stamps."

i.imgur.com

/them Tea Partiers is dum
 
2013-05-22 01:40:28 PM

mark12A: Horseshiat. The IRS SPECIFICALLY went after groups using words like Teaparty" and "Freedom" and such. Liberal groups applications sailed through.

Stop trying to excuse what happened here. What the IRS did was despicable and unAmerican. This same abuse can happen to YOU snowflakes when the Republicans get back the Whitehouse. You had better start thinking like responsible adults and demand the IRS officials responsible for this outrage be held accountable before it's YOUR pet cause on the chopping block.


As a responsible adult, anyone registering with Tea Party in their name is probably a group trying to avoid paying taxes, or is at least a political group not deserving tax exempt status (in other words trying to escape paying taxes).

The IRS should investigate such groups regardless of whether or not obviously political groups will whine.
 
2013-05-22 01:41:30 PM
There was a blip about this on PBS the other day, and the people interviewed suggested that all of these Tea Party groups were lumped together because they were similar in nature and the IRS dudes were hoping to get some efficiency through quantity.

If that is a true statement, then it is sad because the IRS will never attempt such efficiency methods again in order to maintain the appearance of impartiality.
 
2013-05-22 01:41:50 PM

earthwirm: HotWingConspiracy: Republicans are upset that their tax con was getting investigated.

Yes. They are. You figured it out, or is that the spin that Obama's minions are pushing?

Let TYRANNY RING!!! What a brave new world we live in. One where conservatives can be purged from the discussion and Obama is free to listen in on AP/FoxNews/ and your parents. Enjoy your little utopia.


You don't know what tyranny is.

BTW, everything he has done was made legal by your team. Not enjoying your little utopia?
 
2013-05-22 01:41:51 PM

mr lawson: Funny, people on here think it is just the repug's pissed off at the IRS.
Right now, it seems the Dem congress critters are more out for blood than the gop critters.


But the Dems might be doing it for actual principle (I hope) whilst the Repugs seem to be just interested on finding something to pin on 0bongo.
 
2013-05-22 01:43:20 PM
"The IRS should move unilaterally to fix the law sitting at the root of the agency's targeting of conservative groups, according to Senate Democrats who grilled the agency's two most recent chiefs at a Senate Finance Committee hearing on Tuesday."


Uhhhh...isn't that your job?
 
2013-05-22 01:43:45 PM

Jairzinho: But the Dems might be doing it for actual principle (I hope) whilst the Repugs seem to be just interested on finding something to pin on 0bongo.


no doubt. I was just pointing out it ain't just the repugs calling for heads to roll.
 
2013-05-22 01:44:31 PM

SuperNinjaToad: because congress, IRS etc consists of human beings who are fickle minded, self serving and reactionary like pretty much every single human person who has ever lived?


No, we won't do that. I'm tired of blaming everyone for problems that are being created by Republicans. Lets review quickly:

The IRS establishes guidelines to determine whether an organization can declare as tax exempt, based on the criteria that the organization is not created for political purposes. In previous election cycles, Republicans attempt to use this rule to delegitimize organizations that endorse liberals by claiming that the organization's support of Democrats is evidence that they should not be considered tax exempt. Obama is elected. A number of new organiazations which claim to be non-political sprout up and many of them have some variation of the words "Patriot", "Tea", or "Party" in their names which (perhaps) coincidentally is the name of the new anti-tax movement. These organizations file to be exempt from taxes. Since the IRS does not have the manpower to thoroughly check every organization to be sure they are in compliance with the guidelines, they set up a system that they believed would help them to detect organizations that were possibly political. Now, Republicans are claiming, with NO evidence, that this was done at the President's direction to intimidate Conservative organizations. That's funny, I remember when the Tea Party was not a division of the Republican party. I remember when I was told that the Tea party was a grass roots organization consisting of Democrats and Republicans who were tired of being overtaxed. Now, they tell me that a government probe of the Tea Party is an attack on Republicans.


/Go figure
 
2013-05-22 01:44:43 PM
A closer examination of all 501c organizations would be a good thing.  Or better yet, eliminating the catagory entirely and making it that political activities and advertising is never a tax exempt activity. However if we insist on maintaining this catagory then all applications should be subject to examination and meaningful questioning. Selecting out certain groups for delay, harrassment, and meaningless and potentially illegal information requests is not an examination and does nothing to expose abuses and illegal use of this status.
 
2013-05-22 01:44:51 PM

mark12A: Horseshiat. The IRS SPECIFICALLY went after groups using words like Teaparty" and "Freedom" and such. Liberal groups applications sailed through.


I forget.  Were these "targeted" groups granted tax exempt status or not?
 
2013-05-22 01:45:05 PM

Jairzinho: mr lawson: Funny, people on here think it is just the repug's pissed off at the IRS.
Right now, it seems the Dem congress critters are more out for blood than the gop critters.

But the Dems might be doing it for actual principle (I hope) whilst the Repugs seem to be just interested on finding something to pin on 0bongo.


They're all just interested in dog-piling on the IRS, instead of doing something useful like clarifying the rules regarding these types of organizations or funding the IRS so they don't have double the workload but only 80% of the resources...
 
2013-05-22 01:45:39 PM
Payback is a b-tch.

www.nypost.com
 
2013-05-22 01:46:55 PM
So let me get this straight Congress...
You want the Executive Office to interpret the law??  (of which the IRS belongs to...)

Reminds me of that app that helps me being lazy.
 
2013-05-22 01:46:57 PM
It isn't about the scrutiny of those applying for 501c4 status. It is about not applying the same scrutiny to ALL of those applying for 501c4 status. This would be wrong if the parties or political ideals were reversed.

If you don't think that this is wrong then you will have to accept it when the pendulum swings the other way and the IRS under a Republican administration targets the liberal causes.
 
2013-05-22 01:47:06 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: SuperNinjaToad: because congress, IRS etc consists of human beings who are fickle minded, self serving and reactionary like pretty much every single human person who has ever lived?

No, we won't do that. I'm tired of blaming everyone for problems that are being created by Republicans. Lets review quickly:

The IRS establishes guidelines to determine whether an organization can declare as tax exempt, based on the criteria that the organization is not created for political purposes. In previous election cycles, Republicans attempt to use this rule to delegitimize organizations that endorse liberals by claiming that the organization's support of Democrats is evidence that they should not be considered tax exempt. Obama is elected. A number of new organiazations which claim to be non-political sprout up and many of them have some variation of the words "Patriot", "Tea", or "Party" in their names which (perhaps) coincidentally is the name of the new anti-tax movement. These organizations file to be exempt from taxes. Since the IRS does not have the manpower to thoroughly check every organization to be sure they are in compliance with the guidelines, they set up a system that they believed would help them to detect organizations that were possibly political. Now, Republicans are claiming, with NO evidence, that this was done at the President's direction to intimidate Conservative organizations. That's funny, I remember when the Tea Party was not a division of the Republican party. I remember when I was told that the Tea party was a grass roots organization consisting of Democrats and Republicans who were tired of being overtaxed. Now, they tell me that a government probe of the Tea Party is an attack on Republicans.


/Go figure


Don't forget the double whammy of Citizen's United and "austerity", so the IRS now has twice as many applications to review and 20% less resources to review with.
 
2013-05-22 01:47:15 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: mark12A: Horseshiat. The IRS SPECIFICALLY went after groups using words like Teaparty" and "Freedom" and such. Liberal groups applications sailed through.

Stop trying to excuse what happened here. What the IRS did was despicable and unAmerican. This same abuse can happen to YOU snowflakes when the Republicans get back the Whitehouse. You had better start thinking like responsible adults and demand the IRS officials responsible for this outrage be held accountable before it's YOUR pet cause on the chopping block.

As a responsible adult, anyone registering with Tea Party in their name is probably a group trying to avoid paying taxes, or is at least a political group not deserving tax exempt status (in other words trying to escape paying taxes).

The IRS should investigate such groups regardless of whether or not obviously political groups will whine.


They are such obviously non qualifying political groups that none of their applications were actually denied by the IRS?
 
2013-05-22 01:47:24 PM

Dinjiin: There was a blip about this on PBS the other day, and the people interviewed suggested that all of these Tea Party groups were lumped together because they were similar in nature and the IRS dudes were hoping to get some efficiency through quantity.

If that is a true statement, then it is sad because the IRS will never attempt such efficiency methods again in order to maintain the appearance of impartiality.


I could see this happening as a way to deal with the flood of applications after Citizens United.  I'd like to see their criteria and what data they were using to do their filtering though.  If 75% of applications had "Tea Party" or "Freedom" in them, it would make sense that more of them would be picked up for scrutiny.

Unfortunately, I'd imagine that data either doesn't exist, or it is locked up tight.
 
2013-05-22 01:48:37 PM
Gee subtard, do you think it might have something to do with the dems controlling congress in 2010 and the republicans taking over after the 2010 elections in 2011?

The more you know.
 
2013-05-22 01:48:41 PM

Famous Thamas: I could see this happening as a way to deal with the flood of applications after Citizens United. I'd like to see their criteria and what data they were using to do their filtering though. If 75% of applications had "Tea Party" or "Freedom" in them, it would make sense that more of them would be picked up for scrutiny.


The only reason that efficiency was needed was due to the vague regulations regarding the tax status after Citizens United

Congress could easily clear this up by passing a damn law for it
 
2013-05-22 01:49:10 PM
The problem isn't that they were scrutinized. It is that the scrutiny fell majorly in one direction.   The IRS shouldn't be ued as a wing of any politcal party.
 
2013-05-22 01:49:23 PM
"When you say 'exclusively' ... What stronger word do you want us to use?" Senator Cardin says.

Well gee, considering section 501(c)(4) is sitting right next to section 501(c)(3), which lays out explicit standards on lobbying and election activity, I would say you can use words that are quite a bit stronger.  Since (c)(4) lacks such language, you could quite plausibly read "exclusively for the promotion of social welfare" as including at least some amount of political activity, and indeed Treasury and the IRS did.
 
2013-05-22 01:50:04 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: As a responsible adult, anyone registering with Tea Party in their name is probably a group trying to avoid paying taxes, or is at least a political group not deserving tax exempt status (in other words trying to escape paying taxes).

The IRS should investigate such groups regardless of whether or not obviously political groups will whine.


The problem is they should also investigate groups with names like "liberty" and "choice" because they're probably political too, just left leaning.  Stereotyping is wrong even when it works.
 
2013-05-22 01:51:15 PM

Whodat: the IRS under a Republican administration targets the liberal causes.


The IRS under Republican administrations already targets liberal causes, except they do it as a punitive measure instead of out of a desire to enforce the law as written. NAACP traditionally supports liberals? Better take a look at their tax-exempt status!
 
2013-05-22 01:51:28 PM
In the beginning it was simple.

If you were a charity dedicated to improving the social welfare, you could apply for 501c status and be tax free. If you were a political action commity dedicated to advancing a particular partisan agenda, you were a 527 and you paid taxes.

Then came Citizen's United. It allowed groups not dedicated to politics, spend on politics. All of a sudden, all the 527's wanted to be 501c's. Who's to say what's "improving the social welfare"? In the fever hot minds of some, advancing their political agenda is the highest form of helping others.

As a bonus, a 501c doesn't have to disclose donors. All of a sudden, your contribution to advance your political agenda was a charitible, tax free donation. And it's anonymous!

The fix is simple. Overturn Citizen's United and return it the way it was: If you're tax exempt, no political spending for you. No pay, no play. And if you do want to play in politics, be ready to be examined - no anonymous sock puppet for you. Stand for what you believe in - or sit down.
 
2013-05-22 01:51:55 PM

Whodat: It isn't about the scrutiny of those applying for 501c4 status. It is about not applying the same scrutiny to ALL of those applying for 501c4 status. This would be wrong if the parties or political ideals were reversed.

If you don't think that this is wrong then you will have to accept it when the pendulum swings the other way and the IRS under a Republican administration targets the liberal causes.


Yeah.  The IRS really should have gone after all those Liberal organizations that complain about being taxed enough already or those that want to eliminate taxes altogether.

But, I'm sure there are so many that they probably just figured that they should just scrutinize those poor, persecuted conservatives instead.
 
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