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(Lancashire Evening Post)   Parents of identical Down's Syndrome twins applied for state benefits for their children - one child was accepted the other refused by the authorities   (lep.co.uk) divider line 69
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2013-05-22 12:22:03 PM  
Wasn't only one WTC Twin Tower insured?

Somehow seems relevent
 
2013-05-22 12:22:44 PM  
That's just retarded.

/ticket please
 
2013-05-22 12:22:53 PM  
Two Down, one to go.
 
2013-05-22 12:23:21 PM  
This thread will be comprised of three kinds of posts.

I can count to potato shops

Stupid English socialized medicine!!!!

Dumbasses, you already have three kids, and you're old, so why did you get pregnant again?

/3 is the number of the counting, and the number of the count shall be 3
 
2013-05-22 12:23:31 PM  
Handicapable vs. Handicapped  ... Gufus and Dufus?
 
2013-05-22 12:23:32 PM  
There can be only one
 
2013-05-22 12:24:24 PM  
One keeps coming tardy to the testing?
 
2013-05-22 12:24:24 PM  
Arthur was accepted and Alfie refused.

What's it all about?
 
2013-05-22 12:25:51 PM  

FrancoFile: This thread will be comprised of three kinds of posts.

I can count to potato shops

Stupid English socialized medicine!!!!
Dumbasses, you already have three kids, and you're old, so why did you get pregnant again?

/3 is the number of the counting, and the number of the count shall be 3


Lets go with that one, America will definitely raise the bar on stupid
 
2013-05-22 12:26:11 PM  

Devolving_Spud: Arthur was accepted and Alfie refused.


You never know why Russel Brand turns down a script.
 
2013-05-22 12:27:06 PM  
Are the parents brother and sister or something?  All the kids have severe medical issues.
 
2013-05-22 12:27:24 PM  
Too many chromosomes in kids these days. I blame the parents.
 
2013-05-22 12:29:59 PM  
I wonder if they finish each others retarded sentences?

Do they feel each others pain or any at all?

I wonder if they ever switched places on a date?
 
2013-05-22 12:30:02 PM  
Why is this a problem? They also get less child benefit for subsequent children, on the grounds that childcare material is reusable. You don't need to make your property safe twice for two disabled kids.
 
2013-05-22 12:30:15 PM  
They should have tried Massachusetts Maine for commonwealth state benefits, not the UK.
 
2013-05-22 12:30:17 PM  
Technically,  I don't think children belong to 'parents'.    Recently the talking heads determined they belong to the community as a whole.   Thus, if the State or local Government said one of your kids qualifies and another doesn't .... then you should follow thier quidelines.

They know what is best for your family.   Not you.
 
2013-05-22 12:32:14 PM  
I suspect a computer or a claims rep discarded one of the applications as duplicate. It happens. And less likely although still possible, it may be that the system hasn't performed the correct application standardizations.
On the plus side, the U.S. system is currently undergoing or has undergone standardization and uniforms entry and acceptance requirements to prevent exactly this type of thing from occuring, both cases, including review of rejections.
I have two good friends who were twins and orphans. They therefore received U.S. social security orphans benefits. However, the initial application for one was rejected as a duplicate. Then it was discovered that the social security computer database at the time couldn't handle two people with the same birthday, address, and last name and kept throwing up errors. Thus one was classified as adult disabled and the other as an orphan. The one listed as adult disabled got some funny looks when many years later the company he worked for did a background check for security clearance. Good times...
 
2013-05-22 12:32:25 PM  

darth_badger: Handicapable vs. Handicapped  ... Gufus and Dufus?


Niiiice!
 
2013-05-22 12:34:55 PM  
Down and Downer.

i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2013-05-22 12:36:15 PM  
If at first you don't succeed, try, trisomy again...
 
2013-05-22 12:36:45 PM  
Odd. FWIW, though, the mother isn't quite right about them being assessed separately rather than as twins - the caseworker can consider whether the resources being used for one child can be shared (nobody needs two disabled ramps, for example) as part of their assessment.

nitefallz: Are the parents brother and sister or something?  All the kids have severe medical issues.


The identical twin boys have the same issues, I don't see anything indicating the other kids are sick.
 
2013-05-22 12:40:30 PM  

FrancoFile: This thread will be comprised of three kinds of posts.

I can count to potato shops

Stupid English socialized medicine!!!!

Dumbasses, you already have three kids, and you're old, so why did you get pregnant again?

/3 is the number of the counting, and the number of the count shall be 3


What about mentioning that these people will never contribute to society and are a drain on our already stretched resources?
 
2013-05-22 12:41:00 PM  

phlegmmo: Two Down, one to go.


nice! I feel somewhat bad for finding this so amusing...
 
2013-05-22 12:42:55 PM  
Because the Govt is more retarded than both down syndrome twins?
 
2013-05-22 12:43:38 PM  
I don't need to buy a ticket, I got the season pass.
 
2013-05-22 12:43:53 PM  
Disregarding the furor that comes on the topic of socialized medicine, I think any side can agree that there is a severe problem with a paper-pusher being the one in charge of the decisions.
 
2013-05-22 12:44:13 PM  
stop having crotch fruit.  how selfish of them to burden society with identical wastes of resources that will never positively contribute, just drain drain drain.

the state should have mandated an abobo for her, especially since she has 3 kids already.

I can also count to potato.  End Socialism.
 
2013-05-22 12:44:26 PM  
already have 3 kids you cant afford ? best plan of action, have some more, and dont bother to abort the twin downies, more benefits !!  man these people suck ! stop having kids you cant afford people !!!
 
2013-05-22 12:44:44 PM  

btraz70: phlegmmo: Two Down, one to go.

nice! I feel somewhat bad for finding this so amusing...


Win/win

: )
 
2013-05-22 12:48:56 PM  

Mimic_Octopus: already have 3 kids you cant afford ? best plan of action, have some more, and dont bother to abort the twin downies, more benefits !!  man these people suck ! stop having kids you cant afford people !!!


How the hell do you know they can't afford the kids? DLA is a standalone benefit, you get it if you're disabled, not poor
 
2013-05-22 12:49:03 PM  
So the state-run benefits department just randomly sorts applicants into 2 piles, approves one, and rejects the other.

This will never happen under Obamacare.
 
2013-05-22 12:51:24 PM  

WrathofDog: I suspect a computer or a claims rep discarded one of the applications as duplicate. It happens. And less likely although still possible, it may be that the system hasn't performed the correct application standardizations.
On the plus side, the U.S. system is currently undergoing or has undergone standardization and uniforms entry and acceptance requirements to prevent exactly this type of thing from occuring, both cases, including review of rejections.
I have two good friends who were twins and orphans. They therefore received U.S. social security orphans benefits. However, the initial application for one was rejected as a duplicate. Then it was discovered that the social security computer database at the time couldn't handle two people with the same birthday, address, and last name and kept throwing up errors. Thus one was classified as adult disabled and the other as an orphan. The one listed as adult disabled got some funny looks when many years later the company he worked for did a background check for security clearance. Good times...


It does sound like that upper level managers are looking into the situation as well... Hum. Mayhap the outrage is a tad early.
 
2013-05-22 12:52:02 PM  

nitefallz: Are the parents brother and sister or something?  All the kids have severe medical issues.


That is the other shoe there falling.  Maybe the state is tired of these two pumping out defective kids and then making the state pony up for the care?
 
2013-05-22 12:53:49 PM  
Government competency on full display.
 
2013-05-22 12:54:13 PM  

GORDON: So the state-run benefits department just randomly sorts applicants into 2 piles, approves one, and rejects the other.

This will never happen under Obamacare.


How is that any different from what health insurance companies already do?
 
2013-05-22 12:55:51 PM  

FarkinNortherner: Odd. FWIW, though, the mother isn't quite right about them being assessed separately rather than as twins - the caseworker can consider whether the resources being used for one child can be shared (nobody needs two disabled ramps, for example) as part of their assessment.

nitefallz: Are the parents brother and sister or something?  All the kids have severe medical issues.

The identical twin boys have the same issues, I don't see anything indicating the other kids are sick.



reading fail on my part methinks
 
2013-05-22 12:58:07 PM  
facepalms.
 
2013-05-22 12:58:48 PM  
This is what the state should be willing to pay for for these kids. Otherwise, you are on your own.

media.stylespress.com
 
2013-05-22 12:59:42 PM  
i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-22 01:00:48 PM  
One ups, one downs
 
2013-05-22 01:03:04 PM  
Double Downs
 
2013-05-22 01:04:56 PM  

Matthew Keene: This is what the state should be willing to pay for for these kids. Otherwise, you are on your own.

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Inclined to agree.  There's simply no point to maintain them from a society standpoint. Back in the day the parents would have already drowned them.
 
2013-05-22 01:07:03 PM  

netcentric: Technically,  I don't think children belong to 'parents'.    Recently the talking heads determined they belong to the community as a whole.   Thus, if the State or local Government said one of your kids qualifies and another doesn't .... then you should follow thier quidelines.

They know what is best for your family.   Not you.


You're right. The state should just write them a blank check. The parents will know how best to spend the state's money. Not the state.
 
2013-05-22 01:14:57 PM  

Grumpy Cat: Too many chromosomes in kids these days. I blame the parents.


The chromosome count.. IS TOO DAMNED HIGH.

/too lazy to do an actual 'shop.
 
2013-05-22 01:18:28 PM  
One kid has the smarts, the other has the conscience. The smart one should set up the stupid one to slip and fall off the rail. Then the smart kid can finally be complete.

/hate the smart kid character
//hope he gets his due in third book
///who are the Dunyain?!?!
 
2013-05-22 01:32:02 PM  
I can think of one possibility why the 2nd boy might have been refused.  Maybe it's a family allowance.  For instance, I daresay the parents would hire just one nurse who would care for both boys.  If true, then they're playing the media outrage for all it's worth that they were told they couldn't double dip.

On the other hand, some consumables couldn't be shared; each boy will have to undergo his own medical tests, etc.

A compromise figure of 1.5x or something would seem to be in order.  (I'd be astonished that this has never come up before, though... a family trying to claim two allowances.)
 
2013-05-22 01:32:44 PM  

xaldin: Inclined to agree.  There's simply no point to maintain them from a society standpoint. Back in the day the parents would have already drowned them.


It was a more humane time back then. We would get the suffering over quickly. Now we drag it out for decades under the premise that life is sacred or some other such bullshiat.
 
2013-05-22 01:34:54 PM  

Lord Apathy: nitefallz: Are the parents brother and sister or something?  All the kids have severe medical issues.

That is the other shoe there falling.  Maybe the state is tired of these two pumping out defective kids and then making the state pony up for the care?


Where are you getting that the others kids have severe medical issues?  The article doesn't say anything about the older siblings having medical issues.
 
2013-05-22 01:35:03 PM  
Let me guess... they were trying again for a girl and got this double-bonus instead.

Would they have stopped at 2 kids if one had been a girl? Its sad but if letting parents select for gender will in the end reduce total population, I'm beginning to be all for it.

/& those two are not going to be little, cute, and relatively easy to handle forever... A woman who works at my local municipality had a cute little 'Downs' son many years ago. Now the guy is huge, outweighs her and is depressingly hard to handle.
I see her hanging around long after her work-day is over; I strongly suspect she hates going home. Sad.
 
2013-05-22 01:37:44 PM  

Wodan11: each boy will have to undergo his own medical tests, etc.


If they're really identical twins, I don't see why you need to run tests on both of them....
 
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