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(Washington Post)   Washington Post: Sure, Oklahoma, you had some pretty bad tornadoes. But we've got tornado problems, too. Why, we've had two in the past year alone and another one could be really, really bad for us. Keep us in your hearts as you rebuild   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 84
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2013-05-22 12:36:05 PM
That seemed like a ridiculous amount of effort to say "Don't forget that tornadoes happen here too".
 
2013-05-22 12:44:13 PM

wxboy: That seemed like a ridiculous amount of effort to say "Don't forget that tornadoes happen here too".


WaPo may be a nationally-read paper, but around these parts, it's still a "local" paper. Sometimes, they write about national stories with a local focus. We'll all get over it, possibly by reading any one of a thousand articles about the OK situations, and probably a few hundred about $your_locale's tornado preparedness.

Tornadoes, like earthquakes, are a risk in all 50 states; some areas just see them more often than others. FEMA can scream about this all they want, but a story like this in a paper like that can't be a bad thing.
 
2013-05-22 12:53:23 PM
This is an article in the Capital Weather Gang blog. Every day the CWG have to think of about 5 articles to write. Since tornadoes are in the news they wrote about tornadoes in this area. I don't see the problem.
 
2013-05-22 12:53:50 PM

Dr Dreidel: wxboy: That seemed like a ridiculous amount of effort to say "Don't forget that tornadoes happen here too".

WaPo may be a nationally-read paper, but around these parts, it's still a "local" paper. Sometimes, they write about national stories with a local focus. We'll all get over it, possibly by reading any one of a thousand articles about the OK situations, and probably a few hundred about $your_locale's tornado preparedness.

Tornadoes, like earthquakes, are a risk in all 50 states; some areas just see them more often than others. FEMA can scream about this all they want, but a story like this in a paper like that can't be a bad thing.


Yes, but I think 5 maps (one animated) and 2 charts to make the point is overdoing it.  Any one of them would have been sufficient.
 
2013-05-22 12:54:10 PM
I didn't RTFA, but the mid Atlantic kinda has a similar geography (on a smaller scale) to the midwest, in that there are mountains to the west, and warm air coming from the south and cold air coming from the north, which is what causes severe thunderstorms and tornadoes to form.

/not a meteorologist.
 
2013-05-22 01:27:58 PM
Pardon me if I pull a Kinnison on this issue, but what the fark do you expect when you live in Tornado Alley? YOU GET GODDAMN TORNADOES EVERY YEAR, IDIOT! MOVE YOUR ASS OUT OF THERE!


/zero sympathy
//well, close to zero
///I'm sorry their pets died
 
2013-05-22 02:15:11 PM
Are we reading the same article, subby? Seemed more like a "Tornadoes are happening. Let's talk about tornado statistics in our area."
 
2013-05-22 02:15:58 PM

wxboy: Dr Dreidel: wxboy: That seemed like a ridiculous amount of effort to say "Don't forget that tornadoes happen here too".

WaPo may be a nationally-read paper, but around these parts, it's still a "local" paper. Sometimes, they write about national stories with a local focus. We'll all get over it, possibly by reading any one of a thousand articles about the OK situations, and probably a few hundred about $your_locale's tornado preparedness.

Tornadoes, like earthquakes, are a risk in all 50 states; some areas just see them more often than others. FEMA can scream about this all they want, but a story like this in a paper like that can't be a bad thing.

Yes, but I think 5 maps (one animated) and 2 charts to make the point is overdoing it.  Any one of them would have been sufficient.


CWG blog's thing is data. they lurve data. You know Planet Money on NPR, and their schtick on economics? young, hip, data driven? CWG is the same for weather.
 
2013-05-22 02:17:25 PM
For you folks that don't live in DMV, people round these parts tend to panic at any weather or geologic event of any kind other than "sunny", so this is merely WaPo's response to the number of concerned readers who may or may not be experiencing tornado panic due to events that happened halfway across the country and are exceedingly unlikely to happen here.  Still, the conditions do sometimes occur so it's not unreasonable to get some information out there.
 
2013-05-22 02:18:45 PM
How many F5 and EF5 tornados have hit Moore, OK?
 
2013-05-22 02:20:52 PM
Subby should feel bad for that dumb headline.
 
2013-05-22 02:21:42 PM

vernonFL: I didn't RTFA, but the mid Atlantic kinda has a similar geography (on a smaller scale) to the midwest, in that there are mountains to the west, and warm air coming from the south and cold air coming from the north, which is what causes severe thunderstorms and tornadoes to form.

/not a meteorologist.


Biggest difference that I can see is that the Atlantic generally acts as a relatively constant in terms of surface air temperature.  That's not the case when you have the whole Heartland baking and a powerful high pressure comes blasting out of the Rockies.

/also not a meteorologist
 
2013-05-22 02:22:17 PM
And by "Atlantic" I mean that big ocean thing.
 
2013-05-22 02:22:41 PM
How DARE a local paper compose of analysis of tornado risk now that the dangers of tornadoes are elevated in the minds of their readers.

When people say "east-coast bias" I hear "nowheresville butthurt".
 
2013-05-22 02:24:15 PM
All newspapers put on a local spin. "Blizzards! Can it happen in Honolulu?"

/Hardly ever any tornadoes in the PNW.
//Just earthquakes that hit every ~270 years.
///last one was in 1700
 
2013-05-22 02:27:08 PM
The fark is this retarded headline on about? Because there was a really nasty twister in Oklahoma a D.C. based newspaper isn't allowed to write an article about D.C. based tornadoes? Is that the gist of this?
 
2013-05-22 02:27:19 PM
Not to jump on the bandwagon, AND yes it's not 1.3 miles wide and 22 FRECKING MILES OF DESTRUCTION, but this was pretty bad and let's not even talk about La Plata getting his almost EVERY Summer

Maryland may not have as large a number of tornadoes as states in Tornado Alley, but it still ranks No. 3 on a new list of the top tornado states.

Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/weather/weather-blog/bal-wx-maryland - ranks-third-on-list-of-top-tornado-states-20120315,0,2161160.story#ixz z2U2zGWA00


cnsmaryland.org

BEFORE

www.astro.umd.edu

AFTER

www.astro.umd.edu

" 1992 tan Mercury Sable, was apparently lifted over 8 stories over one of the campus dormitories before landing in a tree in a parking lot killing sisters Colleen and Erin Marlatt.


ww1.hdnux.com
 
2013-05-22 02:29:07 PM

Carn: For you folks that don't live in DMV, people round these parts tend to panic at any weather or geologic event of any kind other than "sunny", so this is merely WaPo's response to the number of concerned readers who may or may not be experiencing tornado panic due to events that happened halfway across the country and are exceedingly unlikely to happen here.  Still, the conditions do sometimes occur so it's not unreasonable to get some information out there.


No offense but hearing this area referred to as DMV is more annoying than people standing on the left side of Metro escalators.
 
2013-05-22 02:32:36 PM

gopher321: Pardon me if I pull a Kinnison on this issue, but what the fark do you expect when you live in Tornado Alley? YOU GET GODDAMN TORNADOES EVERY YEAR, IDIOT! MOVE YOUR ASS OUT OF THERE!


Kinison lived in Tulsa for a while, and like most folks that live(d) in OK, it's not like he had a huge choice in the matter.  So this:

/zero sympathy
//well, close to zero
///I'm sorry their pets died


Makes you kinda a douche
 
2013-05-22 02:33:24 PM

Dr Dreidel: wxboy: That seemed like a ridiculous amount of effort to say "Don't forget that tornadoes happen here too".

WaPo may be a nationally-read paper, but around these parts, it's still a "local" paper. Sometimes, they write about national stories with a local focus. We'll all get over it, possibly by reading any one of a thousand articles about the OK situations, and probably a few hundred about $your_locale's tornado preparedness.

Tornadoes, like earthquakes, are a risk in all 50 states; some areas just see them more often than others. FEMA can scream about this all they want, but a story like this in a paper like that can't be a bad thing.


the Big T may be a risk across america but they seem to happen every damn year in a few spots. just as California forests go to flame every year and tourists get sun burned in FLA. every. farking. year.
 
2013-05-22 02:33:47 PM
Forever alone...
userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2013-05-22 02:35:03 PM

Rapmaster2000: How DARE a local paper compose of analysis of tornado risk now that the dangers of tornadoes are elevated in the minds of their readers.


This.

Though, it was getting a little obnoxious on their Twitter feed, when all I wanted to do was check the forecast for today.

/"Twitter feed" is also obnoxious
 
2013-05-22 02:35:10 PM

Carn: exceedingly unlikely to happen here


The fundamental problem is that people actually live on the east coast. A "weak" EF2 going through downtown Baltimore for five minutes is gonna due a farkton more damage than an EF5 that never hits anything but cornfields in Buttfark, KS for half an hour.

That's what some people tend to forget. While the East coast may not be prone to particularly powerful weather, it does happen on occasion and when it does the population density becomes a serious problem.
 
2013-05-22 02:36:03 PM

yequalsy: Carn: For you folks that don't live in DMV, people round these parts tend to panic at any weather or geologic event of any kind other than "sunny", so this is merely WaPo's response to the number of concerned readers who may or may not be experiencing tornado panic due to events that happened halfway across the country and are exceedingly unlikely to happen here.  Still, the conditions do sometimes occur so it's not unreasonable to get some information out there.

No offense but hearing this area referred to as DMV is more annoying than people standing on the left side of Metro escalators.


Sorry, the greater DC, Northern Virginia, and Southern Maryland Metropolitan area.
 
2013-05-22 02:36:59 PM
Was that the WaPo equivalent of "Pray for Omarion?"
 
2013-05-22 02:37:37 PM
Sounds like something Bloomberg would say. "Look at us! We're victims too!"
 
2013-05-22 02:38:39 PM

skozlaw: Carn: exceedingly unlikely to happen here

The fundamental problem is that people actually live on the east coast. A "weak" EF2 going through downtown Baltimore for five minutes is gonna due a farkton more damage than an EF5 that never hits anything but cornfields in Buttfark, KS for half an hour.

That's what some people tend to forget. While the East coast may not be prone to particularly powerful weather, it does happen on occasion and when it does the population density becomes a serious problem.


Yeah that derecho was pretty nutty.  Several houses are still being rebuilt in my neighborhood because they were crushed by trees.  Sandy took quite the dump on the states further north also.
 
2013-05-22 02:39:18 PM
Which of you farkers wrote this article?

FTA:With that I will leave you with one more map.  The map fails to illustrate any new information as it is just showing tornado warnings issued color-coded by year.  I just thought it looked rad.

/Last paragraph.
 
2013-05-22 02:39:47 PM
Ah, D.C.
professional victims
 
2013-05-22 02:39:51 PM

Uisce Beatha: gopher321: Pardon me if I pull a Kinnison on this issue, but what the fark do you expect when you live in Tornado Alley? YOU GET GODDAMN TORNADOES EVERY YEAR, IDIOT! MOVE YOUR ASS OUT OF THERE!

Kinison lived in Tulsa for a while, and like most folks that live(d) in OK, it's not like he had a huge choice in the matter.  So this:

/zero sympathy
//well, close to zero
///I'm sorry their pets died

Makes you kinda a douche


Knowing this makes Kinison an even bigger douche than he already was.
 
2013-05-22 02:40:21 PM
skozlaw: That's what some people tend to forget. While the East coast may not be prone to particularly powerful weather, it does happen on occasion and when it does the population density becomes a serious problem.

Pucker Factor of EF 4


en.es-static.us


/Rolled right through Miami in the middle of the day.
 
2013-05-22 02:41:48 PM
How can children move out on their own? That is a pathetic thing to say that you have zero sympathy for those children who lost their lives.
 Most young adults also would not have the ability to afford that type of move.

Screw you from Moore, Ok.
 
2013-05-22 02:43:03 PM
haha at subby's dumb headline and the scorn

/continue scorn
 
2013-05-22 02:43:23 PM

Carn: For you folks that don't live in DMV, people round these parts tend to panic at any weather or geologic event of any kind other than "sunny", so this is merely WaPo's response to the number of concerned readers who may or may not be experiencing tornado panic due to events that happened halfway across the country and are exceedingly unlikely to happen here.  Still, the conditions do sometimes occur so it's not unreasonable to get some information out there.


I am not trying to turn this into a regional "fight", but Iw as in tulsa soon after 9/11.

there was tons of shiat int he news and from peoplr about how crucial their oil infrastructure is and what a great target it would be for terrorists.

Point is that any "big" news will have peopel looking at how or if it would happen locally.  WaPo for being a big paper does a lot of "local" stuff.
 
2013-05-22 02:44:03 PM
Ya know?

I can't really hate on the Post for using the tornado in Oklahoma to raise awareness and explain the need for preparedness in their own area.  I'm sure lots of papers around the country that are in areas prone to tornadoes are doing the same thing, Subby.  So, you know, try not to be a dick, okay?

I can't imagine the outcome if a strong twister ripped through the DC area.  That body count and damage would be pretty extreme I think.  It would be like a strong earthquake hitting New York or Chicago.  Sure, it's a very distant possibility, but it's not impossible.  You want to hope it doesn't happen, but if it does, you kind of want to know what the hell to do.
 
2013-05-22 02:44:17 PM

Rapmaster2000: Knowing this makes Kinison an even bigger douche than he already was.


Knowing Kinison lived in OK as a kid makes him a bigger douche?  Wow, interesting valuation system there.
 
2013-05-22 02:45:54 PM
Excuse me, but the only people that matter are the employees of the largest employer in America, the federal government.  The rest of us are shoe scrapings.

/ Wash. D.C. is all that matters now, it's the whole country
 
2013-05-22 02:50:02 PM

Uisce Beatha: Rapmaster2000: Knowing this makes Kinison an even bigger douche than he already was.

Knowing Kinison lived in OK as a kid makes him a bigger douche?  Wow, interesting valuation system there.



You said this:  Kinison lived in Tulsa for a while, and like most folks that live(d) in OK, it's not like he had a huge choice in the matter.

But Kinison's "joke" was that the people of Ethiopia just needed to move - the people that were being forcibly held in refugee camps far from their homes by a communist dictatorship engaged in a war with separatists.  The Ethiopians didn't exactly have a huge choice in the matter either.

Maybe Kinison knew he was making an ignorant joke for dickheads.  Perhaps it's just the level of respect he had for his fans.
 
2013-05-22 02:51:04 PM

liam76: Carn: For you folks that don't live in DMV, people round these parts tend to panic at any weather or geologic event of any kind other than "sunny", so this is merely WaPo's response to the number of concerned readers who may or may not be experiencing tornado panic due to events that happened halfway across the country and are exceedingly unlikely to happen here.  Still, the conditions do sometimes occur so it's not unreasonable to get some information out there.

I am not trying to turn this into a regional "fight", but Iw as in tulsa soon after 9/11.

there was tons of shiat int he news and from peoplr about how crucial their oil infrastructure is and what a great target it would be for terrorists.

Point is that any "big" news will have peopel looking at how or if it would happen locally.  WaPo for being a big paper does a lot of "local" stuff.


I think you're right, same thing goes on in many/most regions.  It's just my opinion that weather related panic in DC is a bit higher than elsewhere.
 
2013-05-22 02:52:01 PM
Hey hey hey there is that big sinkhole downtown that is going to ruin everyones commute. We need FEMA and the Red Cross downtown STAT! Wait their offices are downtown NVM.
 
2013-05-22 02:54:26 PM

Rapmaster2000: But Kinison's "joke" was that the people of Ethiopia just needed to move


So Kinison makes an obviously douchey joke, but it's worse because he grew up in OK, because, what, there are natural disasters there?  So where else can someone not live in order to not make douchey jokes even more douchey?  Cali sees earthquakes, fires, and mudslides, so anyone from there must be out, as must Fl, La, and TX from the hurricanes, I suppose.  Anywhere else?
 
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2013-05-22 02:58:39 PM

gopher321: Pardon me if I pull a Kinnison on this issue, but what the fark do you expect when you live in Tornado Alley? YOU GET GODDAMN TORNADOES EVERY YEAR, IDIOT! MOVE YOUR ASS OUT OF THERE!


Because anywhere you go has something.  I would rather deal with hurricanes than something that comes with less warning, but there are always floods, earthquakes, sinkholes, fires etc.
 
2013-05-22 02:59:58 PM
EF 4 tornado + no basements = lots o' death. I feel bad for these people but Moore has been hit by a tornado 4 times since 1998. That is an absurd idea. I would be outta there.
 
2013-05-22 03:00:51 PM
That was a lot of butthurt over a local-oriented article that said nothing you implied it did, subby.
 
2013-05-22 03:01:38 PM
While it's true that a tornado can occur just about anywhere, the frequency and severity is much worse in those flat states with no tall buildings.

Here in NJ, we really don't have problems with serious natural disasters.  The worst we've seen in recent times are hurricanes (I'm looking at you, Sandy!!)

I can only remember a handful of tornados and they were minor, and very few structures damaged.  Really, I think most of the damage caused by Sandy was wind related.  And it was possitively frightening.  It sounded like a fleet of trucks drving by for 2 days.  I can't even imagine what a tornado is like.
 
2013-05-22 03:01:39 PM
www.dvdclassik.com

Mr. President, we've got to close the tornado gap!
 
2013-05-22 03:09:18 PM

yequalsy: Carn: For you folks that don't live in DMV, people round these parts tend to panic at any weather or geologic event of any kind other than "sunny", so this is merely WaPo's response to the number of concerned readers who may or may not be experiencing tornado panic due to events that happened halfway across the country and are exceedingly unlikely to happen here.  Still, the conditions do sometimes occur so it's not unreasonable to get some information out there.

No offense but hearing this area referred to as DMV is more annoying than people standing on the left side of Metro escalators.


No it's not. It's become an acceptable term to describe the area since DC and Maryland finally opened their arms to embrace our (Northern) Virginia neighbors.
 
2013-05-22 03:09:18 PM
It's not like they don't have properties in Oklahoma (and all over the US for that matter) that would easily withstand an F5 tornado, or anything....


www.siloforsale.com

images.forbes.com
 
2013-05-22 03:13:15 PM
t.qkme.me
 
2013-05-22 03:14:31 PM

Uisce Beatha: Rapmaster2000: But Kinison's "joke" was that the people of Ethiopia just needed to move

So Kinison makes an obviously douchey joke, but it's worse because he grew up in OK, because, what, there are natural disasters there?  So where else can someone not live in order to not make douchey jokes even more douchey?  Cali sees earthquakes, fires, and mudslides, so anyone from there must be out, as must Fl, La, and TX from the hurricanes, I suppose.  Anywhere else?


Oy vey.  It has nothing to do with Oklahoma.
 
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