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2013-05-22 12:25:53 PM
unrealitymag.com
 
2013-05-22 12:27:57 PM
Given that a lot of us have Neanderthal DNA, our ancestors must have killed and ate them right after sexy-time.
 
2013-05-22 12:39:15 PM
Zug zug.
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-22 12:47:32 PM
That's not the dumbest hypothesis I've ever heard, but it's certainly in the running.
 
2013-05-22 12:52:30 PM

Cythraul: Given that a lot of us have Neanderthal DNA, our ancestors must have killed and ate them right after sexy-time.


The "neandertal DNA in humans" thing is largely the result of misinterpretation in the popular press.  Humans and neandertals both have  Homo ergaster DNA, but specific alleles persisted at different frequencies in the two clades.  The geographic distribution of so-called "neandertal DNA" is not consistent with what we would expect if it was the result of interbreeding, but perfectly consistent with differences in persistence in both neandertals and humans of the genes that both inherited from their MRCA.

(Not that this rules out the possibility of neandertal/human hybrids, but it doesn't lend support to that hypothesis either.)
 
2013-05-22 12:56:05 PM

FloydA: Cythraul: Given that a lot of us have Neanderthal DNA, our ancestors must have killed and ate them right after sexy-time.

The "neandertal DNA in humans" thing is largely the result of misinterpretation in the popular press.  Humans and neandertals both have  Homo ergaster DNA, but specific alleles persisted at different frequencies in the two clades.  The geographic distribution of so-called "neandertal DNA" is not consistent with what we would expect if it was the result of interbreeding, but perfectly consistent with differences in persistence in both neandertals and humans of the genes that both inherited from their MRCA.

(Not that this rules out the possibility of neandertal/human hybrids, but it doesn't lend support to that hypothesis either.)


I saw a National Geographic piece just yesterday that implied that it was highly likely that there was interbreeding between us and Neanderthals.

They need to update their shiat.
 
2013-05-22 01:30:50 PM
Lana?
upload.wikimedia.org

img381.imageshack.us

images.wikia.com
 
2013-05-22 01:57:44 PM
I got the reference, subby.  But then I am very old.
 
2013-05-22 01:58:53 PM

gameshowhost: [unrealitymag.com image 400x270]


Funniest moment in the whole (bad) movie.
 
2013-05-22 01:58:55 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-22 01:59:10 PM
Damn, time has not been good to Wanda Sykes...
 
2013-05-22 01:59:20 PM

FloydA: Cythraul: Given that a lot of us have Neanderthal DNA, our ancestors must have killed and ate them right after sexy-time.

The "neandertal DNA in humans" thing is largely the result of misinterpretation in the popular press.  Humans and neandertals both have  Homo ergaster DNA, but specific alleles persisted at different frequencies in the two clades.  The geographic distribution of so-called "neandertal DNA" is not consistent with what we would expect if it was the result of interbreeding, but perfectly consistent with differences in persistence in both neandertals and humans of the genes that both inherited from their MRCA.

(Not that this rules out the possibility of neandertal/human hybrids, but it doesn't lend support to that hypothesis either.)


God, Schmod, I want my monkey boy.
 
2013-05-22 02:00:29 PM

Jubeebee: Zug zug.
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 154x158]


Me not that kind of orc!
 
2013-05-22 02:01:13 PM

Cythraul: I saw a National Geographic piece just yesterday that implied that it was highly likely that there was interbreeding between us and Neanderthals.

They need to update their shiat.


Why does one thing eliminate the possibility of the other?
 
2013-05-22 02:02:20 PM

texdent: Lana?
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No dude, Lana:

cineplex.media.baselineresearch.com


GORDON: I got the reference, subby.  But then I am very old.


I hear you. But barely.
 
2013-05-22 02:03:54 PM

GORDON: I got the reference, subby.  But then I am very old.


same here :(
 
2013-05-22 02:04:42 PM

gameshowhost: [unrealitymag.com image 400x270]


Best part about that movie was Nook (Asian guy) speaking perfect English.  Rest of it was... meh.

Hard to believe they got any big name stars to do that movie.  Did Ringo Star lose a bet?
 
2013-05-22 02:05:49 PM
Ul! Lana, ul!

Araka!
 
2013-05-22 02:05:53 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-22 02:06:30 PM
Yeah, so up until 20 years ago, humans also hunted and ate other HUMANS, so I'm not sure why this would be "shocking" in any way.
 
2013-05-22 02:07:05 PM
Atuk alunda Lana.
 
2013-05-22 02:07:37 PM

MrCheeks: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x254]


Came here for this.

/danger zone
 
2013-05-22 02:07:46 PM

bedtundy: gameshowhost: [unrealitymag.com image 400x270]

Best part about that movie was Nook (Asian guy) speaking perfect English.  Rest of it was... meh.

Hard to believe they got any big name stars to do that movie.  Did Ringo Star lose a bet?


Funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life, up to that point:

The group falls into a soup of dinosaur muck... all the caveman are saying, "Ewww, caca... caca..." and the asian guy looks at the camera and say, "Yeah.... shiat."

Funnier since, to my knowledge, that was the first mainstream/slang usage of the word "caca" in America.  Even though it is spanish or something.
 
2013-05-22 02:11:01 PM
giant short facet hyena

And although Stewart isn't considers the new hypothesis "unlikely," he agreed that all hypotheses "need to be voiced and considered."


And although Jacob_Roberson isn't considers NBC's editing "crap quality," he agreed that all Larry O'Hanlon "need to be hunted down and cannibalized."
 
2013-05-22 02:11:28 PM

GORDON: Funnier since, to my knowledge, that was the first mainstream/slang usage of the word "caca" in America.  Even though it is spanish or something.


It was in common use prior to that.
 
2013-05-22 02:11:54 PM

Hollie Maea: Yeah, so up until 20 years ago, humans also hunted and ate other HUMANS, so I'm not sure why this would be "shocking" in any way.


If you think cannibalism doesn't exist anymore, you would be gravely mistaken.
 
2013-05-22 02:13:38 PM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 540x360]


That guy totally looks like George Harrison
 
2013-05-22 02:17:24 PM

Famous Thamas: If you think cannibalism doesn't exist anymore, you would be gravely mistaken.


I'm pretty sure it does, but it's very isolated these days.  Twenty years ago is the last incident for which I personally know some of the participants.
 
2013-05-22 02:17:36 PM

ahchoo: GORDON: I got the reference, subby.  But then I am very old.

same here :(


Yeah.

/lawn, off
 
2013-05-22 02:20:12 PM

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 540x360]

That guy totally looks like George Harrison


web.mit.edu
 
2013-05-22 02:20:15 PM
I loved this movie (I was about 10 when it came out and didn't really know who Ringo was)

My friend and I stayed up watching it on Beta tape, and kept rewinding the part where John Matuszak farted Ringo off the edge of the rock/bed

/hilarious to a 10 year old
//huge Beatles fan now
///wanted to zug zug Lana
 
2013-05-22 02:24:47 PM

Jubeebee: Zug zug.
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 154x158]


Darbu!
 
2013-05-22 02:26:55 PM
So you said "Atuk fark, shiat Lana"?

That makes exactly zero sense.
 
2013-05-22 02:27:43 PM

Cythraul: FloydA: Cythraul: Given that a lot of us have Neanderthal DNA, our ancestors must have killed and ate them right after sexy-time.

The "neandertal DNA in humans" thing is largely the result of misinterpretation in the popular press.  Humans and neandertals both have  Homo ergaster DNA, but specific alleles persisted at different frequencies in the two clades.  The geographic distribution of so-called "neandertal DNA" is not consistent with what we would expect if it was the result of interbreeding, but perfectly consistent with differences in persistence in both neandertals and humans of the genes that both inherited from their MRCA.

(Not that this rules out the possibility of neandertal/human hybrids, but it doesn't lend support to that hypothesis either.)

I saw a National Geographic piece just yesterday that implied that it was highly likely that there was interbreeding between us and Neanderthals.

They need to update their shiat.


If only they read Fark..
 
2013-05-22 02:30:49 PM

GORDON: I got the reference, subby.  But then I am very old.


I too am ashamed that I was able to translate the headline.
 
2013-05-22 02:31:13 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

I really enjoyed that film.
It was something my whole family could watch together (some insight to how i was raised) and laugh our selves to tears. 
I was 8
 
2013-05-22 02:33:17 PM
Haha, at my house we will still occasionally ask "Ool?" when we mean "Is dinner almost ready?"
 
2013-05-22 02:33:40 PM

Jubeebee: Zug zug.
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 154x158]


Ready to work!
 
2013-05-22 02:34:37 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: So you said "Atuk fark, shiat Lana"?

That makes exactly zero sense.


It does if you read the article.
 
2013-05-22 02:34:58 PM
What a stupid farking article.

FTA: That doesn't disprove the hypothesis either, it just means we'll have to see if any evidence is found to back it up.
Translation: The body of evidence collected in the past 80 years doesn't show anything like this, it's just this idea I gots one night while high on angel dust.

/Sigh... Anthropology...
//Pretty sure someone's named all the spiders already.
///Studied Anthro, loved every second of it.
 
2013-05-22 02:35:00 PM

bedtundy: gameshowhost: [unrealitymag.com image 400x270]

Best part about that movie was Nook (Asian guy) speaking perfect English.  Rest of it was... meh.

Hard to believe they got any big name stars to do that movie.  Did Ringo Star lose a bet?


Oh c'mon....the Asian guy is EVAN frikkin' KIM...!   Mr. Loo from The Kentucky Fried Movie???

i1168.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-22 02:35:29 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: So you said "Atuk fark, shiat Lana"?

That makes exactly zero sense.


Didn't click the link, eh?

/subby
 
2013-05-22 02:39:31 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Jubeebee: Zug zug.
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 154x158]

Ready to work!


Dabu!
 
2013-05-22 02:39:46 PM
Cythraul:

I saw a National Geographic piece just yesterday that implied that it was highly likely that there was interbreeding between us and Neanderthals.

They need to update their shiat.


Well, it's an active debate in paleoanthropology right now.  It's not impossible, but the evidence is not very convincing.  It's not that they are out of date, so much as they have taken a side in an ongoing debate.

It's not really surprising that Nat Geo "chose a side" in the debate, and TBH it's not a surprise that they chose the more "controversial" and "prurient" side.  Their job is to sell magazines, after all.  Dry discussions about cladogenic events and possible reticulation don't quite seem to have the draw of "we farked some neandertals!" at least not with the general public.  Nat Geo is a great organization, but remember that they are "popularizers of science," rather than scientists, so take their articles with a grain of salt - there's usually a lot more (or a lot less) to the story than you'll get out of them.  (Popularizations of science are good things; don't get me wrong.)

Note: I am absolutely certain that we tried to mate with neandertals; I'm sure we boinked them and they boinked us.  I am just not convinced that there were any fertile hybrid offspring resulting from those matings.
 
2013-05-22 02:47:20 PM

threadjackistan: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Jubeebee: Zug zug.
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 154x158]

Ready to work!

Dabu!


Lok'tar!
 
2013-05-22 02:48:25 PM

FloydA: Cythraul:

I saw a National Geographic piece just yesterday that implied that it was highly likely that there was interbreeding between us and Neanderthals.

They need to update their shiat.

Well, it's an active debate in paleoanthropology right now.  It's not impossible, but the evidence is not very convincing.  It's not that they are out of date, so much as they have taken a side in an ongoing debate.



Hmm, that's odd. I was under the impression that we had neanderthal DNA. Even Fark links seem to mention that now and then.
Can you recommend any links that disagree?
It kind of angers me that I've been (admittedly passively) learning something incorrect.
 
2013-05-22 02:49:05 PM
Ringo is the MAN!

Of all the beatles he scored the hottest wife of them all.

Barbara Bach in The Spy Who Loved Me = awesome
 
2013-05-22 02:50:24 PM
This issue may have been covered in the movie "Quest for Fire", but all I seem to remember of that was Rae Dawn Chong running around in nothing but body paint.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-22 02:52:52 PM

Mach10: What a stupid farking article.

FTA: That doesn't disprove the hypothesis either, it just means we'll have to see if any evidence is found to back it up.
Translation: The body of evidence collected in the past 80 years doesn't show anything like this, it's just this idea I gots one night while high on angel dust.

/Sigh... Anthropology...
//Pretty sure someone's named all the spiders already.
///Studied Anthro, loved every second of it.


On the other hand, there is zero chance that Humans didn't eat Neanderthals, Humans, bugs, Giant Sloths, and anything else they could get their paws on.
 
2013-05-22 02:58:22 PM
God-is-a-Taco:

Hmm, that's odd. I was under the impression that we had neanderthal DNA. Even Fark links seem to mention that now and then.
Can you recommend any links that disagree?
It kind of angers me that I've been (admittedly passively) learning something incorrect.


It's not that you've learned something that is incorrect.  Rather, you've heard one side of an ongoing debate.  It's possible that humans and neandertals did interbreed, but it is not "settled science," as it is often described.

The disagreement stems from questions about the sources of the similarity.  To use an analogy, I have some of the same DNA as my cousin, but that's not because my dad screwed his mom or his dad screwed my mom (or because I screwed him).  Rather, it's because he and I share a grandfather and we both inherited some of grandpa's DNA.

The same might be true of humans and neandertals.  The reason that we have some of the same DNA as they do might be because we both descend from a shared ancestor (Homo ergaster) and some of that ancestor's genes persist in both of its descendant lineages.

We can't "rule out" the interbreeding hypothesis, but it has received a lot more hype than the evidence really merits (in my opinion).  It's certainly not a settled issue.

/I don't have my references with me at the moment, sorry, but I will try to find something to back me up later this evening.
//if I'm sober.
///so good luck ;-)
 
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