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(Christian Post)   Jodi Arias feels betrayed by jury. And you know how she deals with betrayal   (christianpost.com) divider line 109
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2013-05-23 03:35:12 PM  

gja: The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.

I will concur with you. I have no problem, even though my Christianity nags at me, my 'human being' parts scream 'let her suffer'.


I'd would dearly love to plunge her syringe.
 
2013-05-23 03:42:43 PM  

bugontherug: The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

She didn't think she was sick.

That word you used there; "chose." Which part of diminished ability to control emotions, diminished ability to foresee consequences, and diminished ability to control impulses don't you understand? If there is such a thing as free will at all, she had a seriously diminished version of it. And if there is a linkage between free will and moral responsibility, then she is, by virtue of her diminished self-control, less responsible for the things she does than are normal people. And if she is less responsible, she is less morally blameworthy.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.

I wouldn't say you're a bad person. It does suggest an egocentric inability to see the world through another's eyes. But that's hard for most people to do.

Have you experienced life with a diminished ability to regulate your emotions, a diminished ability to foresee the consequences of your actions, and a diminished ability to control your responses to impulses? Have you endured the lifetime of emotional torture a BPD expert described as the emotional equivalent of 3rd degree burns over 90% of the body?

A startlingly high number of borderlines, about 10%, commit suicide. Higher suicidality than any other mental health diagnosis. This is a condition that hurts a lot all the time. I've read one doctor who said of BPD that as regards mental health, it means "everything that can go wrong has gone wrong."


Psychobabble. Excuse-ridden psychological bullshiat. The vast majorit don't believe in or give a rat's ass about any of that nonsense.

She murdered her boyfriend in a terrifying, cruel, excessive, and horrible manner. She needs to pay and pay and pay and pay. She needs to be locked up, totally alone, for many years so she can experience that hopelessness. Then, she needs to know that she is going to be killed, for several months at least, so she can experience that terror.

Then, justice will have been served.
 
2013-05-23 03:44:09 PM  

bugontherug: gja: The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.

I will concur with you. I have no problem, even though my Christianity nags at me, my 'human being' parts scream 'let her suffer'.

What? A Christian rationalizing away why it's okay not to empathize with another human being? Why, I've never encountered that before.

"I was in prison, and you came to visit me... whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me."

"I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me... whatever you did not do for the least of these, you did not do for me."

Whatever you wish on Jodi Arias, you wish also on Christ.


Who was nothing more than another human being, like Arias.
 
2013-05-23 03:46:23 PM  

bugontherug: gja: Can't agree with you on that. She ceased being any semblance of human or humane, so that vacates that covenant (imvho)

Direct me to the Biblical passage which states "what you do to the least of these, except those who have ceased being human or humane, you do also to me."

I do not take Christ's exhortations to visit and take care of prisoners literally. Nobody can visit and take care of every prisoner in the world. But clearly your callous disregard for her suffering is incompatible with Christ's teachings.

Jodi Arias is sick

Satan with tits (if you believe in that nonsense) and in prison. It is your Christian duty to take care of her. Whatever you regard as the extent of that duty--whether it be sending her a kind letter, donating to a prisoners' rights advocacy group, or even simply advocating yourself for humane prisoner treatment--characterizing her as less than human fails to meet that duty.
 

But I know. As a modern American Christian, you're imperfect and you're forgiven, so you need not even try to rise above your base emotions.


Fixed.
 
2013-05-23 06:18:44 PM  

bugontherug: The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

She didn't think she was sick.

That word you used there; "chose." Which part of diminished ability to control emotions, diminished ability to foresee consequences, and diminished ability to control impulses don't you understand? If there is such a thing as free will at all, she had a seriously diminished version of it. And if there is a linkage between free will and moral responsibility, then she is, by virtue of her diminished self-control, less responsible for the things she does than are normal people. And if she is less responsible, she is less morally blameworthy.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.

I wouldn't say you're a bad person. It does suggest an egocentric inability to see the world through another's eyes. But that's hard for most people to do.

Have you experienced life with a diminished ability to regulate your emotions, a diminished ability to foresee the consequences of your actions, and a diminished ability to control your responses to impulses? Have you endured the lifetime of emotional torture a BPD expert described as the emotional equivalent of 3rd degree burns over 90% of the body?

A startlingly high number of borderlines, about 10%, commit suicide. Higher suicidality than any other mental health diagnosis. This is a condition that hurts a lot all the time. I've read one doctor who said of BPD that as regards mental health, it means "everything that can go wrong has gone wrong."


I don't buy the excuse that mental illness trumps responsibility.  People with BPD still have the ability to think critically.
 
2013-05-23 06:19:39 PM  

bugontherug: Whatever you wish on Jodi Arias, you wish also on Christ.


Christ never stabbed, shot, or slit anybody's throat, much less all three at once.

Please, troll harder.
 
2013-05-23 06:20:22 PM  

bugontherug: bugontherug: That word you used there; "chose." Which part of diminished ability to control emotions, diminished ability to foresee consequences, and diminished ability to control impulses don't you understand?

Pardon me for this bit of snark.


No.  This is Fark. Own your words or keep your damn mouth shut.
 
gja
2013-05-23 08:43:22 PM  

bugontherug: gja: Can't agree with you on that. She ceased being any semblance of human or humane, so that vacates that covenant (imvho)

Direct me to the Biblical passage which states "what you do to the least of these, except those who have ceased being human or humane, you do also to me."

I do not take Christ's exhortations to visit and take care of prisoners literally. Nobody can visit and take care of every prisoner in the world. But clearly your callous disregard for her suffering is incompatible with Christ's teachings.

Jodi Arias is sick and in prison. It is your Christian duty to take care of her. Whatever you regard as the extent of that duty--whether it be sending her a kind letter, donating to a prisoners' rights advocacy group, or even simply advocating yourself for humane prisoner treatment--characterizing her as less than human fails to meet that duty.
 

But I know. As a modern American Christian, you're imperfect and you're forgiven, so you need not even try to rise above your base emotions.


I don't care what YOU think. As she is just the embodiment of evil I cannot see her as a brother or sister of man.
She has placed herself in the class of 'personification of evil'.
Immoral, unrepentant, compunction-less, soulless, dead, evil, unapologetic, and completely in denial of what she has done.

My "base emotion"? No no no no no, you would not like my most base, animalistic and visceral reaction and what I would do to her (or have done to her).
The desire to see her locked up for life and never allowed even 1 moment of joy is a result of, and testament to, my capacity for restraint.

She reaps what she has sown.
"As you sow so shall you reap" Galatians VI
 
2013-05-23 10:05:51 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I don't buy the excuse that mental illness trumps responsibility.  People with BPD still have the ability to think critically.


Plus, a danger to society is a danger to society. They need to be removed regardless of their reasons for being the way they are.
 
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