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2013-05-22 01:07:53 PM  

PsyLord: Candy?

Did he fill her full of Skittles and then taste the rainbow?

He was holding some Skittles so she shot him in self defense.



Going for a Zimmerman, eh? Well tough luck. If there is no tea, then you don't get the plea!
 
2013-05-22 01:08:48 PM  

groppet: My mom told me she was suprised that she wasent dating me. "She looks like one of those girls you would date." Thanks mom love you too.


Most moms are scary smart.
 
2013-05-22 01:14:47 PM  
FTA: "I feel a little betrayed by them," Arias said of the jury that found her guilty. "I was hoping they would see me for who I am"

They saw you for exactly who you are, sweetheart.  Exactly.  Who. You. Are.
 
2013-05-22 01:20:00 PM  
She is a pathological manipulator. Here statement boils down to:

I know I asked for the death penalty, but if you give me death you are REALLY hurting my POOR INNOCENT FAMILY so unless you all suck as humans you have to spare me.

If I was on the jury I would be asking the judge if "slow death" was an option.
 
2013-05-22 01:23:23 PM  
Eh, all things being equal, keeping her in jail might make for a good publicly available warning program.

Think of it as "Scared Straight" for guys who have had to file more than two restraining orders.
 
2013-05-22 01:26:33 PM  
Where are the Fark legal experts who were in every thread saying she'd was definitely getting acquitted?
 
2013-05-22 01:29:12 PM  
He used a Reeses cup so he could get some Reeses pieces..

I'd hit it then move to another country...
 
2013-05-22 01:31:46 PM  

NightOwl2255: Jodi Arias is a perfect example of a person that should never open her mouth in public. The first time the cops showed up at her door (or however it went down) she should have uttered one word, "lawyer" and then taken a vow of silence. Every time she talks she appears more crazy and more guilty than before.


Problem is she has a narcissistic personality disorder, so she can't shut up about herself and making herself seem great while tearing others apart.  That's why most of her defense consisted of slandering Travis with unsubstantiated claims such as he viewed child pornography (and legally, for now, she can because no law protects victims of crimes against hearsay, even from the perpetrator of the crime.)
 
2013-05-22 01:34:03 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: PsyLord:  She's not crazy, just a sociopath.

Can you explain what the difference would be? lol


Sociopaths are sane. They lack empathy and the ability to see situations from another's perspective. It is literally all about them. They see every situation in terms of how they can get maximum personal benefit from it. Everything bad is someone else's fault, and everything that doesn't go their way is a deliberate offense requiring retaliation. Like, for instance, a break up.
 
2013-05-22 01:41:01 PM  
Get close enough and you can hear the ocean.
 
2013-05-22 01:47:30 PM  

Jodi Arias' ass: Get close enough and you can hear the ocean.


Imagine what you'd be able to hear if you got close to HotKinkyJo's...
 
2013-05-22 01:47:49 PM  
It would be cool if the judge could somehow sentence her to never be able to speak about the case, ever again.

That would be the ultimate punishment.
 
2013-05-22 01:49:38 PM  

NightOwl2255: Jodi Arias is a perfect example of a person that should never open her mouth in public. The first time the cops showed up at her door (or however it went down) she should have uttered one word, "lawyer" and then taken a vow of silence. Every time she talks she appears more crazy and more guilty than before.


Since she is, in fact, crazy and guilty, I have no problem with her expressing such to the police/jury.
 
2013-05-22 01:59:52 PM  

plcow: I understand that she murdered somebody, but who cares?


People care because murder is bad.
 
2013-05-22 02:06:13 PM  
"I was hoping [the jury] would see me for who I am"  - Arias

Then you should be immensely pleased with the verdict so far.

A death sentence means all your hopes were fulfilled.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-22 02:07:55 PM  

PsyLord: She actually sounds pretty calm in the interview.  She also seems to have a persecution complex.  She's not crazy, just a sociopath.


^^THIS^^. Not what I would call "nuts" but goddamnit, she has NO compunction whatsoever. \
She would make an excellent gun-for-hire. She is the type to smile at you across a bar 5 minutes before putting the old 'double-tap' on ya.

/farking frightening
 
2013-05-22 02:08:03 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: PsyLord:  She's not crazy, just a sociopath.

Can you explain what the difference would be? lol


Crazy people don't comprehend reality.
 
2013-05-22 02:16:41 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: She shot him, stabbed him like 30 times and slit his throat ear to ear.  In self defense.  I'd like to be on that jury. Straight to the express line and a seat on ole Sparky.


Unfortunately, you would have been stuck in that jury box day in and day out for about five months before getting to make that decision. So not worth it.
 
2013-05-22 02:20:42 PM  
I do not pretend to know what is wrong with Jodi Arias nor, really, do I care. I will say that I think the world will be a little bit better place without her in it. She simply needs to be exterminated; like you would exterminate a common cockroach. Simply and dispassionately disposed of.
 
2013-05-22 02:29:37 PM  
when can we change her name to prisoner fistrider?
 
2013-05-22 02:38:49 PM  
The news said that she would be the third woman on Arizona death row if given death. Does anyone know who the others are? I'm curious is all.
 
2013-05-22 02:41:43 PM  

4seasons85!: The news said that she would be the third woman on Arizona death row if given death. Does anyone know who the others are? I'm curious is all.


No idea, but I actually think Arias might live longer if they sentence her to death.
 
2013-05-22 02:48:49 PM  

plcow: Who is she and why is she all over the news? I understand that she murdered somebody, but who cares?  Is she a celebrity?


Attractive white woman?
 
2013-05-22 02:57:40 PM  

umad: plcow: I understand that she murdered somebody, but who cares?

People care because murder is bad.


Also, she didn't just murder him. She murdered the everloving shiat out of him at least three times. Plus, sex.
 
2013-05-22 03:00:00 PM  

Pathman: I_Am_Weasel: Actually, I don't know how she deals with betrayal, but I'm willing to guess if you let me take a stab at it.

ok go on, take a shot.


OK, OK, I'mma gonna have to cut you off right there
 
2013-05-22 03:04:23 PM  

booger42: Pathman: I_Am_Weasel: Actually, I don't know how she deals with betrayal, but I'm willing to guess if you let me take a stab at it.

ok go on, take a shot.

OK, OK, I'mma gonna have to cut you off right there


not if i don't secretlydriveacrossarizonainarentalcarafterstealingmygrandparentsgunan dkillyouwithit you first!

/i'm good at puns!
 
2013-05-22 03:14:57 PM  

JohnCarter: For those wondering about the young lady


Jodi Arias is on trial for murdering her ex-boyfriend. However, she's already guilty of stealing our hearts. If Jodi Arias isn't the sexiest murderer of all-time, I'd be shocked.

On top of being sexy, Jodi Arias is a freak in the bedroom. That adds to the package even more!

Here are some Jodi Arias sex details:

- How many times did she allow boyfriends to use the backdoor before the dead ex-boyfriend? 4 times.
- Did the dead ex-boyfriend use lube when he went backdoor? No, but he might have used saliva.
- Did she enjoy him using candy in their sex life? Yes, she did get some pleasure from candy.
- Did the dead ex-boyfriend get to pop off on her face? Yes.
- Did she like it? Yes, as long as it didn't get in her eyes.

Wow, the dead ex-boyfriend sounds like a lucky guy. Well, other than being murdered, that is.

[www.everyjoe.com image 600x465]


Is that pic of her?
 
2013-05-22 03:19:33 PM  

doczoidberg: It's odd, but I lost sympathy for her when I saw the nude pics and found out that she has breast implants.


Hmmm, I'd like to judge for myself. Links?
 
2013-05-22 03:19:47 PM  

kbronsito: tricycleracer: She's going to fark then murder the entire jury?

that sequel is going to be awesome. There was an article about how she's donating her hair to a charity. So here's the pitch. The cancer patient that gets her hair becomes inhabited by Jodi, her cancer goes into remission and she begins to hunt down all the jurors and Nancy Grace.


And where do I donate again?
 
2013-05-22 03:26:27 PM  

Spanky McStupid: My favorite part of her begging was how she stated she donated her hair to Locks of Love and if she were spared she could grow more hair and donate it.  How magnanimous!  How noble!

Jodi Arias is a pathological liar.  She is also a murderer and she is playing the "I'm too pretty to execute" aspect but trust me, if she is "spared" and given life, there is no limit to the number of men willing to marry her.  She will eventually walk out of prison; meanwhile, Travis Alexander will remain very much dead.

Save taxpayers a butt-load of money and execute her.


After supporting her for 12-20 years and paying for all of her legal fees etc etc. There is no cheap way out.
 
2013-05-22 03:39:00 PM  

4seasons85!: The news said that she would be the third woman on Arizona death row if given death. Does anyone know who the others are? I'm curious is all.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/09/jodi-arias-possible-cellys_ n_ 2875762.html#slide=2221359
 
2013-05-22 03:40:24 PM  

4seasons85!: The news said that she would be the third woman on Arizona death row if given death. Does anyone know who the others are? I'm curious is all.


Pretty sure wikipedia would tell you. I recently researched another woman on death row in another state there. (curiosity piqued from one of those dramatic crime shows)
 
2013-05-22 04:27:07 PM  

Wogus: I do not pretend to know what is wrong with Jodi Arias nor, really, do I care. I will say that I think the world will be a little bit better place without her in it. She simply needs to be exterminated; like you would exterminate a common cockroach. Simply and dispassionately disposed of.


I'll pretend to know. Or at least pretend to have a pretty good guess. My armchair diagnosis is Borderline Personality Disorder. In Europe, they call it "Emotional Dysregulation Syndrome."

Her condition consists in extreme emotional lability arising from an imperfectly formed amygdala. In early childhood, maybe even prenatally, her body was flooded with stress hormones which diverted resources normally used to properly form the brain to other functions. As a result, she lacks the ability normal people have to control their emotional states. She experiences emotions more intensely than normal people's do, her emotions swing more wildly than normal people's do.

The same stressors which caused her amygdala to form improperly probably also caused her frontal cortex to form improperly. Impairment of her frontal cortex causes two deficits: 1) diminished ability to calculate the consequences of her actions, and 2) diminished impulse control. Her brain therefore has a triple whamny of fail: intense, uncontrollable emotions, inability to foresee outcomes of her actions, and poor impulse control.  So when she gets mad, for example, she gets really mad. Worse, she's significantly more likely to act inappropriately in her anger than are normal people.

People often mistakenly interpret her impulsive responses to intense emotion as calculated efforts to manipulate others. Someone in this very thread, for example, remarked that her request for the death penalty was part of her "pathological manipulation." More likely, it arose from the intense emotion associated with her murder conviction. She probably said it mainly to vent her own feelings, without contemplating how other people would react to it at all.

That isn't to say she isn't manipulative though. Borderline Personality Disorder is highly comorbid with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I don't fully understand the interplay, but I think it involves the ego's response to the poor self image arising from her self-destructive responses to her own intense emotions. To oversimplify, I think she hates the things she does so much, that she has constructed a false image of herself to project to the world. The narcissistic supply she gets from being told she's beautiful, from her sexual promiscuity, etc., replaces the real self-esteem that would derive from being better equipped to handle the world.

This same false self also serves as kind of an emotional armor. Highly emotional people who are also intelligent learn early in life that when certain other people pick up on your emotional lability, they use it as a weapon against you. So the "narcissistic mask," if you will, that she projects may also serve to conceal the sensitivity which makes her a target for interpersonal predators.

Is she like a cockroach? I don't know. Neither she nor a cockroach chose to be the way they are, so they have that much in common. But she is sentient, and therefore able to appreciate her own plight in a way that a cockroach cannot. She also has a much more complex nervous system than a cockroach, and a consequently greater capacity to suffer. Multiply her capacity to understand that she's about to die or go to prison forever by her already intense emotional lability, and her terror is probably off the charts.

To quote one expert who in turn was quoted by Psychology Today:

"People with BPD are like people with third degree burns over 90 percent of their body," says Marsha M. Linehan, Ph.D., founder of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. "Lacking emotional skin, they feel agony at the slightest touch or movement."

I for one agree with those hidden religious doctrines which exhort us universal compassion. It took a scientist to articulate those doctrines in a way a secularist like me could appreciate. Said Albert Einstein:

"A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "Universe," a part limited in time and space.  He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.  This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us.  Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures...".

I say Jodi Arias should die, but not for the same reasons you do. While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not. She needs to die because she's a danger to others, and a natural lifespan served in prison is too cruel a punishment. She might suffer more intensely as she awaits her execution than she would if she went to prison for life. But she won't suffer for as long. And maybe her victim's family can find some sense of equity in her death.

tl;dr: A bleeding heart's plaintive plea that it really wasn't Jodi's fault, so we should all feel sorry for her. Boo hoo hoo!
 
2013-05-22 05:09:22 PM  
bugontherug: Wogus: I do not pretend to know what is wrong with Jodi Arias nor, really, do I care. I will say that I think the world will be a little bit better place without her in it. She simply needs to be exterminated; like you would exterminate a common cockroach. Simply and dispassionately disposed of.

I'll pretend to know. Or at least pretend to have a pretty good guess. My armchair diagnosis is Borderline Personality Disorder. In Europe, they call it "Emotional Dysregulation Syndrome."  ...  I say Jodi Arias should die, but not for the same reasons you do. While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not. She needs to die because she's a danger to others, and a natural lifespan served in prison is too cruel a punishment. She might suffer more intensely as she awaits her execution than she would if she went to prison for life. But she won't suffer for as long. And maybe her victim's family can find some sense of equity in her death.


Excuse me? I didn't say why I think Jodi Arias should die; but it's certainly NOT for the sadistic reasons you seem to want to thrust on me (e.g. "While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing...).

Where the fark, exactly, is that coming from?
 
2013-05-22 05:09:57 PM  
 
2013-05-22 06:30:10 PM  

doczoidberg: Oh, for fark's sake.

You asked for it....

NSFW:

http://www.xerq.net/showthread.php?16033-Nudes-of-Jodi-Arias-who-mur de red-boyfriend


Good lord!
www.smugmug.com
 
2013-05-22 07:27:54 PM  
The jury isn't there for justice for Jodi Arias, the jury is there for justice for her victim.

You know, Jodi, the guy you shot the bajeezus out of before slitting his throat?  Remember him?
 
2013-05-22 07:38:46 PM  

bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.


I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-22 10:17:00 PM  

doczoidberg: Oh, for fark's sake.

You asked for it....

NSFW:

http://www.xerq.net/showthread.php?16033-Nudes-of-Jodi-Arias-who-mur de red-boyfriend


Photo3=Cutlet cooch
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-22 10:20:44 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.


I will concur with you. I have no problem, even though my Christianity nags at me, my 'human being' parts scream 'let her suffer'.
 
2013-05-22 10:20:56 PM  
That's one attention whore that I won't miss seeing or hearing about in the news and hopefully very soon.
 
2013-05-22 10:55:45 PM  

Wogus: bugontherug: Wogus: I do not pretend to know what is wrong with Jodi Arias nor, really, do I care. I will say that I think the world will be a little bit better place without her in it. She simply needs to be exterminated; like you would exterminate a common cockroach. Simply and dispassionately disposed of.

I'll pretend to know. Or at least pretend to have a pretty good guess. My armchair diagnosis is Borderline Personality Disorder. In Europe, they call it "Emotional Dysregulation Syndrome."  ...  I say Jodi Arias should die, but not for the same reasons you do. While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not. She needs to die because she's a danger to others, and a natural lifespan served in prison is too cruel a punishment. She might suffer more intensely as she awaits her execution than she would if she went to prison for life. But she won't suffer for as long. And maybe her victim's family can find some sense of equity in her death.

Excuse me? I didn't say why I think Jodi Arias should die; but it's certainly NOT for the sadistic reasons you seem to want to thrust on me (e.g. "While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing...).

Where the fark, exactly, is that coming from?


Key word there being "may." Certainly, comparing her to a cockroach was calculated to dehumanize her, normally a tactic used by sadists to justify hurting other people. My inference, wrong though it may have been, was reasonable.
 
2013-05-22 11:12:05 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.


She didn't think she was sick.

That word you used there; "chose." Which part of diminished ability to control emotions, diminished ability to foresee consequences, and diminished ability to control impulses don't you understand? If there is such a thing as free will at all, she had a seriously diminished version of it. And if there is a linkage between free will and moral responsibility, then she is, by virtue of her diminished self-control, less responsible for the things she does than are normal people. And if she is less responsible, she is less morally blameworthy.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.

I wouldn't say you're a bad person. It does suggest an egocentric inability to see the world through another's eyes. But that's hard for most people to do.

Have you experienced life with a diminished ability to regulate your emotions, a diminished ability to foresee the consequences of your actions, and a diminished ability to control your responses to impulses? Have you endured the lifetime of emotional torture a BPD expert described as the emotional equivalent of 3rd degree burns over 90% of the body?

A startlingly high number of borderlines, about 10%, commit suicide. Higher suicidality than any other mental health diagnosis. This is a condition that hurts a lot all the time. I've read one doctor who said of BPD that as regards mental health, it means "everything that can go wrong has gone wrong."
 
2013-05-22 11:18:33 PM  

gja: The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.

I will concur with you. I have no problem, even though my Christianity nags at me, my 'human being' parts scream 'let her suffer'.


What? A Christian rationalizing away why it's okay not to empathize with another human being? Why, I've never encountered that before.

"I was in prison, and you came to visit me... whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me."

"I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me... whatever you did not do for the least of these, you did not do for me."

Whatever you wish on Jodi Arias, you wish also on Christ.
 
2013-05-22 11:29:03 PM  

bugontherug: That word you used there; "chose." Which part of diminished ability to control emotions, diminished ability to foresee consequences, and diminished ability to control impulses don't you understand?


Pardon me for this bit of snark.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-05-22 11:32:22 PM  

bugontherug: gja: The My Little Pony Killer: bugontherug: While you may consider the intense emotional pain she would suffer awaiting her execution a good thing, I do not.

I don't see why you wouldn't.  She has had her entire life to deal with whatever emotional issues she has. She chose not only to not take care of herself, but to take her issues out on another person in the worst possible way.

I hope it hurts her every second of every day, and I don't think I'm a bad person for thinking so.

I will concur with you. I have no problem, even though my Christianity nags at me, my 'human being' parts scream 'let her suffer'.

What? A Christian rationalizing away why it's okay not to empathize with another human being? Why, I've never encountered that before.

"I was in prison, and you came to visit me... whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me."

"I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me... whatever you did not do for the least of these, you did not do for me."

Whatever you wish on Jodi Arias, you wish also on Christ.


Can't agree with you on that. She ceased being any semblance of human or humane, so that vacates that covenant (imvho)
 
2013-05-23 08:32:28 AM  

gja: Can't agree with you on that. She ceased being any semblance of human or humane, so that vacates that covenant (imvho)


Direct me to the Biblical passage which states "what you do to the least of these, except those who have ceased being human or humane, you do also to me."

I do not take Christ's exhortations to visit and take care of prisoners literally. Nobody can visit and take care of every prisoner in the world. But clearly your callous disregard for her suffering is incompatible with Christ's teachings.

Jodi Arias is sick and in prison. It is your Christian duty to take care of her. Whatever you regard as the extent of that duty--whether it be sending her a kind letter, donating to a prisoners' rights advocacy group, or even simply advocating yourself for humane prisoner treatment--characterizing her as less than human fails to meet that duty.
 

But I know. As a modern American Christian, you're imperfect and you're forgiven, so you need not even try to rise above your base emotions.
 
2013-05-23 08:34:44 AM  
The jury is hung. The judge sent them back, but if they can't come to a decision, the court will have to seat a new jury for the penalty phase, and we'll have to listen to this shiat ALL OVER AGAIN. (NOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo)
Or, the DA could offer a plea, life without parole and you don't appeal ever. Since a replay of the entire trial (guilt is a given, but the new jury would need to hear it all again to decide punishment) would be majorly expensive and would cause Airplane style mass suicides, it's looking like she's going to get life w/o.
 
2013-05-23 08:58:52 AM  
Why do I want that prosecutor Juan Martinez to totally sex me to quivering, sweaty exhaustion?
 
2013-05-23 03:17:30 PM  

PsyLord: She actually sounds pretty calm in the interview.  She also seems to have a persecution complex.  She's not crazy, just a sociopath.


unfarkingbelievable: Why do I want that prosecutor Juan Martinez to totally sex me to quivering, sweaty exhaustion?


She it totally, completely, farking crazy. Totally. Completely. farking. Crazy.

That is all.
 
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