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2013-05-22 01:49:22 PM

mdeesnuts: ringersol: tuna fingers: "I used to be the biggest apple fan, but that was many many years ago. Like 20. They've changed a lot, and not in a good way. (I'm old)."

20 years ago Mac OS was so weak and listless that it could get shown up by *Microsoft*.
With Windows 95: a mediocre, incremental improvement with an out-sized marketing campaign.

You may want to wipe off those rose colored glasses.  They seem to be smudged.

I lost what little respect I had for Apple when they abandoned PowerPC processors. Or Apple's consumers. Not sure which.


Apple had to change processors. The problem with PPC was that there was never a sure upgrade path. PPC chips were server chips stuffed into consumer laptops and desktops. IBM was never going to give them the time/money because compared to the server business Apple was small potatoes.

Intel gave Apple a constant stream of significant updates, worked with them on making more powerful, lower-voltage chips, and for the trouble, they got to draw in the people who needed Windows and x86 Linux. We wouldn't have a Macbook Air or a Mini the size of the current one if not for Intel.

Apple saw the curve and adjusted for it. I'll agree I felt like you did for, oh, a month or so. Then I tried an Intel Mac (and I tell you: it was WIERD seing a Pentium 4 in a PowerMac case in those developer units they sold for a short time) and i got over it. Beside, that was like 8 years ago now. Most people have adjusted too.
 
2013-05-22 01:58:54 PM

Enemabag Jones: As much as I find the Apple Religion irritating, the free market works well here.

Get an android if you don't want to deal with Apple's control fetish.

/Or learn how to tweak i-products.


The iPhone really helped Apple gain a nice foothold in the PC market. It's gone from 4% marketshare 7 years ago to around 10% marketshare today. In large part due to the iPhone's success.

With such a large market for iPhone apps, anyone who wants to get involved in developing for the iPhone must use a Mac. And once programmers started switching, they found the OS experience pretty good. And with virtualization they don't have to leave their Mac to run Windows or Linux, so there's no incentive to leave the Mac.
 
2013-05-22 02:02:24 PM
I never bother to update my apps. I have a bunch I don't even use anyway.

My nephew was using my Ipad last week and was shocked at how many updates I had. He was all like: "Why do you have hundreds of updates!?!??!?!"  I was all like: "They work fine the way they are and I gots things to do - I don't have time for that shiat."

The little bugger proceeded to hit "Update All" and for the next three hours my Ipad was frozen as it struggled to download all that junk.
 
2013-05-22 02:05:58 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Jim_Callahan: AverageAmericanGuy: As an American living overseas, I resent the fact that I have to pay taxes on my foreign earnings that I have to declare the balances of all my foreign bank accounts to the US Government.

Are you having to pay income taxes in your country of residence or something?  Because you definitely don't have to pay US sales or property taxes (on local property) and you're exempt from federal withholding, so even if you are that's a relatively small amount of double taxation.

Yes, I have to pay income tax (and sales tax and property tax) in my foreign tax home.


Wait, how do you pay US sales and property tax on foreign property?  Sales and property taxes are based on the physical location of where the property is used, so I don't know what jurisdiction in the US would even be able to claim you owe them tax on something that isn't within their land borders.  Unless the IRS has some foreign-based asset tax I'm not aware of (a quick Google search didn't reveal anything)?  And I'm just talking a tax on purchasing/owning real property, not taxes on rental income or the gains on the sale of that property, both of which I do understand.

I'm half calling bullshiat and half concerned as someone who dreams of one day owning a fabulous London condo.
 
2013-05-22 02:11:14 PM

Hoygal: AverageAmericanGuy: Jim_Callahan: AverageAmericanGuy: As an American living overseas, I resent the fact that I have to pay taxes on my foreign earnings that I have to declare the balances of all my foreign bank accounts to the US Government.

Are you having to pay income taxes in your country of residence or something?  Because you definitely don't have to pay US sales or property taxes (on local property) and you're exempt from federal withholding, so even if you are that's a relatively small amount of double taxation.

Yes, I have to pay income tax (and sales tax and property tax) in my foreign tax home.

Wait, how do you pay US sales and property tax on foreign property?  Sales and property taxes are based on the physical location of where the property is used, so I don't know what jurisdiction in the US would even be able to claim you owe them tax on something that isn't within their land borders.  Unless the IRS has some foreign-based asset tax I'm not aware of (a quick Google search didn't reveal anything)?  And I'm just talking a tax on purchasing/owning real property, not taxes on rental income or the gains on the sale of that property, both of which I do understand.

I'm half calling bullshiat and half concerned as someone who dreams of one day owning a fabulous London condo.


I pay income tax, sales tax, and property tax  to the country in which I live.

I also pay income tax to the US, in which I do not live.
 
2013-05-22 02:15:47 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: 1. So why not renounce that citizenship? Seems like you have no need to keep it. Then guess what whiner, you won't have to pay taxes to the US government.

2. Then why the hell haven't you renounced your US citizenship already Mr. Wants His Cake and Eat It Too? Also, I don't care how other nations do it, other nations don't have the political muscle flexed by the State Department to pull their citizens out of trouble either.

Guess what, decisions have consequences. Your decision to hold onto a citizenship you clearly don't use is what is obligating you to pay taxes to the US government.

If you're living in a foreign nation I'd say maybe your login is a little... misleading? I'll assume more "out of date" if you picked it up years ago before you decided to work in a foreign nation.


Holy farking shiat, stop talking.
 
2013-05-22 02:20:13 PM

Mr. Titanium: Diogenes: "I'm out of time but what I really wanted to ask was why the hell I have to keep updating apps on my iPhone all the time and why you don't fix that," the Arizona Republican said.

That poor chicken cloud.

Being old enough to have spent long hours with punch cards, I'll agree with the Senator to some extent.  If you write the app correctly the first time, it shouldn't need to be constantly updated.  Granted, sometimes you need to have updates to deal with improved technologies, but I get the feeling that a lot of these "upgrades" are correcting screw-ups they should have dealt with before  putting things on the market and/or trying to gather more marketing data.  If I spend money on an App, I have a right to expect it to be de -bugged and workable.  And if it's free, I will probably be even more incensed if it has problems.  Nobody is paying me to debug their software.

/end of rant.


I agree that too much poor quality software goes out, and developers are using us all as de facto beta testers.  But it sure is nice to have access to patches to real problems the minute they become available.

We have fixes for issues just sitting on the shelf because my customers would prefer "one off/hot fix/backports" that are untested because they're too friggin lazy to upgrade to versions in which the issues are fixed.  That makes zero sense to me.  Experience has shown me time and again you spend more time wrestling with a untested backport to get it to work than you would performing an orderly and timely upgrade.
 
2013-05-22 02:20:31 PM
At just reading the headline, my initial reaction was, "This must be on The Onion."
Sadly, it was not...
 
2013-05-22 02:33:40 PM

xrayspx: AverageAmericanGuy: dukeblue219: bedtundy: Hey, they make this stupid handy, little gadget for storing passwords --->  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgbRbYlojm8

Holy cow, that's a real product?? I thought it might be satire after the lady said "now I never have to worry about security or identity theft" as she writes every bit of personal information into her little book which she then carries in her purse!

Good grief.

It has a handsome leather cover, so those passwords are safe.

So does John McCain, I'm not putting my passwords in him either.  Wait...


My wife bought a dayplanner that had several pages like this at the beginning: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x375]

Seems legit.


Ellen has made some improvements to the password minder product line... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srh_TV_J144

/I want to know how they guarantee that you'll never lose a password again with this stupid notebook.  What if you lose the notebook, or someone else... steals it?
 
2013-05-22 02:51:16 PM

grokca: Old man yells at iCloud.


i229.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-22 03:13:39 PM

Muta: Forced, unnecessary upgrades are annoying.


Hey a cute movie of a puppy sleeping.  [clicks link then wait 20 minutes for Quicktime to update]


Holy crap, I haven't heard anyone mention Quicktime for years. They still pushing that crapware?
 
2013-05-22 03:14:01 PM

jjorsett: If you want no updates, you should be using Android.


That is the second funniest comment in the entire thread.
 
2013-05-22 03:21:16 PM
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this apple will need updating soon. they get brown pretty quick.
 
2013-05-22 03:37:29 PM
FIF!
 
2013-05-22 04:16:35 PM

Muta: Forced, unnecessary upgrades are annoying.


Senator McCain, is that you?

Seriously, how do you "know" that the upgrades is "unnecessary"? Do you work for Apple(Or any other software company)? Updates are there to fix bugs, patch security leaks, make the app work more smoothly, etc. You aren't going to get a fireworks show with each update. Hell, you might not even notice the difference, but they aren't updating things just to make you fill your Depends in frustration. Even when an app rolls out a "whole new look", there are usually a ton of behind the scenes fixes going on. Maybe you should try being grateful that the software companies are continually trying to improve their product. There are plenty where customer service is non-existent.

As far as "forced upgrades go, if that's really the case, maybe it's time to switch to Android. I can choose whether to update any app I want, when I want to, including most system updates. Of course, if Apple has the same policy, then you should really stop lying about the whole "forced update" thing.
 
2013-05-22 04:18:21 PM
You know what makes me want to agree with Senator McCain?  Java updates.  And I freakin' work for Larry.
 
2013-05-22 04:24:56 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I have a feeling this is nothing more than a dog and pony show.


Yeah, I caught that same show last time I was down in Tijuana. Esmerelda was absolutely A(+)mazing!
 
2013-05-22 04:28:37 PM

Molavian: tuna fingers: I used to be the biggest apple fan, but that was many many years ago. Like 20. They've changed a lot, and not in a good way. (I'm old).

What?  I've actually started going over to Apple products.  They used to be such weak sauce that I didn't consider them computers.  Now I run VMWare Fusion on my Mac and virtualize my work desktop.  It's pretty pimp.  I've done it on Windows and it's not quite as good.


Yeah, not impressed.. Whether it's VMWare, Paralells, BootCamp, all my laptop does is run hot enough to broil a leg of lamb and burn through hard drives. Not only that, but despite what people say, I can always tell that I'm on a VM. I have 6 GB of RAM, and have played with every possible balance of RAM between the OS and the VM, and none really work that well. Instead, I have a Windows laptop I bought used for $250 that works fine.
 
2013-05-22 04:30:41 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: As an American living overseas, I resent the fact that I have to pay taxes on my foreign earnings that I have to declare the balances of all my foreign bank accounts to the US Government.


Get used to it, it's the way it works for most countries. If you REALLY don't like it, you could renounce your American citizenship, but people have been playing the country hopping game for decades to try and find the right country to live in and the right one to claim citizenship in.
 
2013-05-22 04:38:45 PM

Hobodeluxe: [fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net image 480x416]

this apple will need updating soon. they get brown pretty quick.


That's racist!!
 
2013-05-22 05:38:29 PM
The solution to Android bossiness is to just go Android, and update you stuff when YOU feel like it.
 
2013-05-22 05:48:13 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Crotchrocket Slim: 1. So why not renounce that citizenship? Seems like you have no need to keep it. Then guess what whiner, you won't have to pay taxes to the US government.

2. Then why the hell haven't you renounced your US citizenship already Mr. Wants His Cake and Eat It Too? Also, I don't care how other nations do it, other nations don't have the political muscle flexed by the State Department to pull their citizens out of trouble either.

Guess what, decisions have consequences. Your decision to hold onto a citizenship you clearly don't use is what is obligating you to pay taxes to the US government.

If you're living in a foreign nation I'd say maybe your login is a little... misleading? I'll assume more "out of date" if you picked it up years ago before you decided to work in a foreign nation.

Holy farking shiat, stop talking.


Holy farking shiat at least offer a reason to hold onto US citizenship if you aren't using it instead of logging into an alt account.
 
2013-05-22 08:04:54 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-real-apple-tax-scandal-2013-05-2 2

This marketwatch article was really good. It laid out some great ideas that are heads and tails above Congressional ideas.
 
2013-05-22 11:46:52 PM

xenophon10k: Wow, McCain's come along way with technology in the last 5 years.


Yeah, maybe in a few more years he'll get a -real- smartphone! :)

/tends to steer clear of anything beginning wit hthe letter i and is made by Apple
//-really- dislikes iTunes
 
2013-05-23 09:51:28 AM

kbronsito: bedtundy: xenophon10k: Wow, McCain's come along way with technology in the last 5 years. Maybe he should give lessons to Gingrich.

You mean he's figured out how to get his phone to stop flashing  SUN 12:00 AM?

I sat next to him on a flight.... he was flying on coach. It was odd because I saw him in the waiting area and I was one of the last people to get a seat assigned... i figured I'd catch him sitting in first class, but when I didn't see him I got to my seat and there he was, flying coach. Maybe all of first class was sold, maybe he's to cheap to pay for his upgrade or maybe he's just trying to appear to be a man of the people. I was flying out AZ, so that gives him a big chance to seat next to contituents.

He spent most of the flight playing on his blackberry. I thougth about talking to him, but I was on my way back from Burning Man and looked like a no-good dirty hippie (I had showered at my hotel before the flight, but it takes a couple of showers to get all the playa dust out). I figured the old man probably didn't want to talk to a dirty hippie. I know my grandpa wouldn't have wanted to had he been sitting next to me. And the man did serve his country in 'nam and deserved a quiet flight if he wanted one.


Official travel is paid by their official accounts, and is reported annually. A number of news outlets compile and rank travel spending. Loathe be the member who is the most expensive traveler, thereby wasting taxpayer money on 1st class; reason #1 to fly coach.

Campaign travel is paid by the campaign, which needs that money for actual campaigning, not for extra legroom on a plane; reason #2 to fly coach.

They fly to their home districts/states almost every weekend, so they rack up enough FF miles to get upgraded regularly, so if you see one of them in 1st class, they probably got bumped there.

It used to be that travel wasn't reported. Those were the days of flying back every weekend on the private jets of whatever bigwig business buddies in the state had a plane.
 
2013-05-23 03:42:41 PM
McCain's time has come and gone.  Unfortunately he is not irrelevant.  I will be doing my best to make him so come election time.  2nd CD Tucson.
 
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