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2013-05-22 09:27:59 AM
3 votes:
a suspect has been shot in Orlando by an agent "conducting official duties"

i guess execution is now an official duty
2013-05-22 09:26:37 AM
3 votes:
Conspiracy theories start with and are bolstered by poor journalism.
2013-05-22 09:25:54 AM
3 votes:
From the comments:
 "Would that be an admission of guilt by the not so dearly departed and an indication that there was more involved in this plot than a couple rogue chechens as the obozo regime and his minions would have us believe?"

Just imagine having a mind like that. And despair.
2013-05-22 09:21:33 AM
3 votes:

skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....


He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.
2013-05-22 09:21:06 AM
3 votes:
img.pandawhale.com
2013-05-22 09:47:41 AM
2 votes:
Lets see... an MMA fighter that beat a guy unconscious over a parking spot and "flipped out" while being interviewed.  Roid rage maybe?
2013-05-22 09:27:00 AM
2 votes:

JPSimonetti: Isn't there a point at which your body is legally considered a lethal weapon? I remember reading a story a long time ago about a golden glove boxer an Army Ranger that killed some guy in a drunken brawl and he was charged with using a deadly weapon. Would that justify lethal force by law enforcement? I don't know.


And now you have the plot of Con Air
2013-05-22 09:24:09 AM
2 votes:
he wasnt a suspect was he?
2013-05-22 11:48:23 AM
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: I'm pretty sure the police can pat you down any time they talk to you.  Maybe not if they come to your house or other private building, but if a cop stops you on the street to "chat" with you, they can pat you down for their safety.  Pretty bullshiat to me, but that's always been my take on it.


Unless it's a "Terry stop" (i.e., unless the officer has reasonable suspicion that you're involved in criminal activity) you're under no obligation to "chat."  Patting you down would constitute unreasonable search/seizure.

/At least, that's how it works in theory.  In reality, you'd get your ass kicked for asserting your rights, you'd be charged with resisting arrest and felonious assault on a police officer, you'd lose your job and never be employable again, and the officer would be commended.
2013-05-22 11:36:17 AM
1 votes:

UrukHaiGuyz: CrazyCracka420: Magnus: skankboy: king_nacho: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

uh, where did you read he was unarmed?

uh, he was being interviewed for hours by the FBI.  You don't think they do a pat down?

uhhhhhh

uhhh

Depends on where the interview takes place.  If the FBI comes to you home to do an interview, they have no authority to do a pat down.  If you go to their office, they can since it is FBI property.  If they do a field interview with no probable cause that you have engaged in any criminal activity, no they cannot.

I'm pretty sure the police can pat you down any time they talk to you.  Maybe not if they come to your house or other private building, but if a cop stops you on the street to "chat" with you, they can pat you down for their safety.  Pretty bullshiat to me, but that's always been my take on it.

How does that square even a little bit with the 4th Amendment? I think they can ask and you can refuse, but they don't handle rejection well.


They can ask.  You can refuse.  And that could possibly be used as rationalization of their probable cause. It hopefully wouldn't pass a court review, but it happens all the time and courts tend to give LE lots of leeway in their discretion.  Ain't that a helluva Catch-22?
2013-05-22 11:31:40 AM
1 votes:

namatad: "as shot and killed after attacking an FBI agent during questioning in Florida"
Wait wait wait wait.
So while in FBI custody, they murdered him?
NICE
If only there were secure rooms for questioning. Some kind of "restraining" devices. Or glass walls. Or other "PEOPLE" who could have been in the room to assist.
What a bunch of tools.

But at least he is dead, so there is no way to find out if Obama was behind everything. We need to get this INFO to RUSH!


Read the Orlando Sentinel article linked to earlier.  He was confessing to participating in a triple homicide.  He was in his own home.  He charged them with a knife.  Monday morning quarterbacking doesn't make this a police abuse of power.  Just based on what's in the article, this looks like a justified police involved self-defense shooting.  These things DO happen on occasion.  It's the nature of the work.
2013-05-22 11:28:21 AM
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: Magnus: skankboy: king_nacho: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

uh, where did you read he was unarmed?

uh, he was being interviewed for hours by the FBI.  You don't think they do a pat down?

uhhhhhh

uhhh

Depends on where the interview takes place.  If the FBI comes to you home to do an interview, they have no authority to do a pat down.  If you go to their office, they can since it is FBI property.  If they do a field interview with no probable cause that you have engaged in any criminal activity, no they cannot.

I'm pretty sure the police can pat you down any time they talk to you.  Maybe not if they come to your house or other private building, but if a cop stops you on the street to "chat" with you, they can pat you down for their safety.  Pretty bullshiat to me, but that's always been my take on it.


Not anytime.  They have to have probable cause that you are engaged in criminal activity.  But one man's probable cause is another cop's suspect-signed-a-confession-but-my-police-dog-ate-it.
2013-05-22 11:15:30 AM
1 votes:
www.biography.com
2013-05-22 10:41:34 AM
1 votes:
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
2013-05-22 10:12:09 AM
1 votes:
My completely uninformed and spurious guess is that this guy was already unstable and prone to violence, based on the fact that he committed some serious unlicensed fist dentistry on man over a parking space.

When you take someone that unstable and apply large amounts of psychological pressure, like an FBI interrogation, you are probably more likely to see a spectacular blow out then get the desired results.

My Guess is that the agents shifted from "friendly" questions to hardball, throwing around words like "Obstruction" and threatened him with jail time if he didn't start answering their questions; and he panicked and did the first thing that came to mind which was punch the problem until it goes away.
2013-05-22 10:01:55 AM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: Chechnya and may have been heading back to the lawless Russian region today.

That's a strange bit of editorializing.


Not only that, but some lawless regions are better than others.

Lawless region 1:

thefatguy.com

Lawless region 2:

3.bp.blogspot.com

I'd much rather visit Lawless Region 1.
2013-05-22 09:55:19 AM
1 votes:
He was Dornered.
2013-05-22 09:45:54 AM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: reillan: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.

/He's never unarmed. A law enforcement officer can use deadly force to protect himself and others, even if the suspect doesn't have a weapon. Such as, if there was a struggle for the officers weapon, or the suspect was tying to grab it, or go for another weapon, or, maybe in this case, the guy was a islamic fundie with bad ass fighting skills, your average officer had no hope of overcoming. If you are in a position where you have to defend yourself, and the suspect is seriously going to kick your ass and you have 0 hope of winning a fight due to his skills, yes, you can shoot the prick. Police officers in the line of duty have no reason or are bound by no law to back off from an arrest or a interview. If the suspect changes it to a violent confrontation, and he gets killed? His bad.




People should know when they are conquered.
2013-05-22 09:40:45 AM
1 votes:

skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....


He was coming right at him.
2013-05-22 09:39:51 AM
1 votes:
It's not the media calling him an MMA fighter, it's how he represented himself to his buddy. This turd left a guy toothless and unconscious over a freaking parking space, I'd think the law enforcement officer had every reason to shoot him if he felt threatened.
2013-05-22 09:35:39 AM
1 votes:

reillan: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.




/He's never unarmed. A law enforcement officer can use deadly force to protect himself and others, even if the suspect doesn't have a weapon. Such as, if there was a struggle for the officers weapon, or the suspect was tying to grab it, or go for another weapon, or, maybe in this case, the guy was a islamic fundie with bad ass fighting skills, your average officer had no hope of overcoming. If you are in a position where you have to defend yourself, and the suspect is seriously going to kick your ass and you have 0 hope of winning a fight due to his skills, yes, you can shoot the prick. Police officers in the line of duty have no reason or are bound by no law to back off from an arrest or a interview. If the suspect changes it to a violent confrontation, and he gets killed? His bad.
2013-05-22 09:35:14 AM
1 votes:

Pick: Good! Saved the taxpayer's a ton of money.


Saved the taxpayer's what?
2013-05-22 09:35:14 AM
1 votes:

Pick: Good! Saved the taxpayer's a ton of money.


Except that in general death penalty cases cost the taxpayers two to four times as much compared to life imprisonment cases.
2013-05-22 09:34:43 AM
1 votes:

BitwiseShift: Why the Florida tag for a Boston Herald story.

When Joe Dweasel calls Chechnya a lawless Russian region as an aside you figger he's been snorting that tabloid ink again.

His interesting angle that it was an FBI hit is about all he's got going.


prolly cause it happened in Florida
2013-05-22 09:30:55 AM
1 votes:
2013-05-22 09:29:46 AM
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: Chechnya and may have been heading back to the lawless Russian region today.

That's a strange bit of editorializing.


Just a tad yellow, no?
2013-05-22 09:27:44 AM
1 votes:

PC LOAD LETTER: Conspiracy theories start with and are bolstered by poor journalism.


But we have to fill the news cycles with something, otherwise we can't have 24/7 news!
2013-05-22 09:24:22 AM
1 votes:
Gonna make questioning him kind of hard there Lou.
2013-05-22 09:24:11 AM
1 votes:
Chechnya and may have been heading back to the lawless Russian region today.

That's a strange bit of editorializing.
2013-05-22 09:23:25 AM
1 votes:

encyclopediaplushuman: Frankly, media, I don't give a damn.

inb4 conspiracy nuts


It is a weird story, though.
2013-05-22 09:21:02 AM
1 votes:
It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....
 
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