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2013-05-22 09:21:02 AM
It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....
 
2013-05-22 09:21:06 AM
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2013-05-22 09:21:33 AM

skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....


He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.
 
2013-05-22 09:22:21 AM
Isn't there a point at which your body is legally considered a lethal weapon? I remember reading a story a long time ago about a golden glove boxer that killed some guy in a drunken brawl and he was charged with using a deadly weapon. Would that justify lethal force by law enforcement? I don't know.
 
2013-05-22 09:22:30 AM
Frankly, media, I don't give a damn.

inb4 conspiracy nuts
 
2013-05-22 09:23:25 AM

encyclopediaplushuman: Frankly, media, I don't give a damn.

inb4 conspiracy nuts


It is a weird story, though.
 
2013-05-22 09:24:09 AM
he wasnt a suspect was he?
 
2013-05-22 09:24:11 AM
Chechnya and may have been heading back to the lawless Russian region today.

That's a strange bit of editorializing.
 
2013-05-22 09:24:15 AM

JPSimonetti: Isn't there a point at which your body is legally considered a lethal weapon? I remember reading a story a long time ago about a golden glove boxer that killed some guy in a drunken brawl and he was charged with using a deadly weapon. Would that justify lethal force by law enforcement? I don't know.


no
 
2013-05-22 09:24:22 AM
Gonna make questioning him kind of hard there Lou.
 
2013-05-22 09:25:38 AM
"Oh man, I'm glad you're here. I think I finally pieced together a pretty solid case for this whole thing being put together to take away essential Americ*BLAM*"
 
2013-05-22 09:25:54 AM
From the comments:
 "Would that be an admission of guilt by the not so dearly departed and an indication that there was more involved in this plot than a couple rogue chechens as the obozo regime and his minions would have us believe?"

Just imagine having a mind like that. And despair.
 
2013-05-22 09:26:26 AM

darth_badger: Gonna make questioning him kind of hard there Lou.


"His name was...Julio Iglesias!"

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2013-05-22 09:26:37 AM
Conspiracy theories start with and are bolstered by poor journalism.
 
2013-05-22 09:27:00 AM

JPSimonetti: Isn't there a point at which your body is legally considered a lethal weapon? I remember reading a story a long time ago about a golden glove boxer an Army Ranger that killed some guy in a drunken brawl and he was charged with using a deadly weapon. Would that justify lethal force by law enforcement? I don't know.


And now you have the plot of Con Air
 
2013-05-22 09:27:44 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Conspiracy theories start with and are bolstered by poor journalism.


But we have to fill the news cycles with something, otherwise we can't have 24/7 news!
 
2013-05-22 09:27:59 AM
a suspect has been shot in Orlando by an agent "conducting official duties"

i guess execution is now an official duty
 
2013-05-22 09:28:10 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Conspiracy theories start with and are bolstered by poor journalism.


From what I understand there are reports coming in that the suspect was hatless, I repeat, hatless.
 
2013-05-22 09:29:35 AM

skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....


uh, where did you read he was unarmed?
 
2013-05-22 09:29:46 AM

Rapmaster2000: Chechnya and may have been heading back to the lawless Russian region today.

That's a strange bit of editorializing.


Just a tad yellow, no?
 
2013-05-22 09:29:54 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: PC LOAD LETTER: Conspiracy theories start with and are bolstered by poor journalism.

But we have to fill the news cycles with something, otherwise we can't have 24/7 news!


This just in, cute kittens playing with puppy in new viral video.
 
2013-05-22 09:30:43 AM

Rapmaster2000: Chechnya and may have been heading back to the lawless Russian region today.

That's a strange bit of editorializing.



Why?  I LOVED Xena, Warrior Princess.
 
2013-05-22 09:30:51 AM

F22raptom: JPSimonetti: Isn't there a point at which your body is legally considered a lethal weapon? I remember reading a story a long time ago about a golden glove boxer that killed some guy in a drunken brawl and he was charged with using a deadly weapon. Would that justify lethal force by law enforcement? I don't know.

no


De La Hoya once said on The Rome Show that his hands were registered deadly weapons, because of his punching power, he could kill a man.

I laughed.  Then a year or two later, the drag photos popped up on the web.  I laughed harder.

Off topic, but whatever.
 
2013-05-22 09:30:55 AM
 
2013-05-22 09:31:41 AM

reillan: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.


I've known plenty of "MMA" fighters that couldn't get out of a wet paper bag if they had to.  I think the media calls everyone who is enrolled in a martial arts school these days "MMA" fighters.  Just like every gun is an AK-47, every martial artist is an "MMA" fighter.
 
2013-05-22 09:32:05 AM
Why the Florida tag for a Boston Herald story.

When Joe Dweasel calls Chechnya a lawless Russian region as an aside you figger he's been snorting that tabloid ink again.

His interesting angle that it was an FBI hit is about all he's got going.
 
2013-05-22 09:32:12 AM

JPSimonetti: Isn't there a point at which your body is legally considered a lethal weapon? I remember reading a story a long time ago about a golden glove boxer that killed some guy in a drunken brawl and he was charged with using a deadly weapon. Would that justify lethal force by law enforcement? I don't know.


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2013-05-22 09:32:30 AM

Famous Thamas: reillan: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.

I've known plenty of "MMA" fighters that couldn't get out of a wet paper bag if they had to.  I think the media calls everyone who is enrolled in a martial arts school these days "MMA" fighters.  Just like every gun is an AK-47, every martial artist is an "MMA" fighter.


That was part of my point ;)
 
2013-05-22 09:32:36 AM
Good! Saved the taxpayer's a ton of money.
 
2013-05-22 09:34:07 AM

Rapmaster2000: Chechnya and may have been heading back to the lawless Russian region today.

That's a strange bit of editorializing.


That's what is known as objective reporting these days.
 
2013-05-22 09:34:43 AM

BitwiseShift: Why the Florida tag for a Boston Herald story.

When Joe Dweasel calls Chechnya a lawless Russian region as an aside you figger he's been snorting that tabloid ink again.

His interesting angle that it was an FBI hit is about all he's got going.


prolly cause it happened in Florida
 
2013-05-22 09:35:14 AM

Pick: Good! Saved the taxpayer's a ton of money.


Except that in general death penalty cases cost the taxpayers two to four times as much compared to life imprisonment cases.
 
2013-05-22 09:35:14 AM

Pick: Good! Saved the taxpayer's a ton of money.


Saved the taxpayer's what?
 
2013-05-22 09:35:39 AM

reillan: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.




/He's never unarmed. A law enforcement officer can use deadly force to protect himself and others, even if the suspect doesn't have a weapon. Such as, if there was a struggle for the officers weapon, or the suspect was tying to grab it, or go for another weapon, or, maybe in this case, the guy was a islamic fundie with bad ass fighting skills, your average officer had no hope of overcoming. If you are in a position where you have to defend yourself, and the suspect is seriously going to kick your ass and you have 0 hope of winning a fight due to his skills, yes, you can shoot the prick. Police officers in the line of duty have no reason or are bound by no law to back off from an arrest or a interview. If the suspect changes it to a violent confrontation, and he gets killed? His bad.
 
2013-05-22 09:35:47 AM
Oddly written story, and the Weeners immediately brings the derp
 
2013-05-22 09:36:00 AM

Famous Thamas: I've known plenty of "MMA" fighters that couldn't get out of a wet paper bag if they had to. I think the media calls everyone who is enrolled in a martial arts school these days "MMA" fighters. Just like every gun is an AK-47, every martial artist is an "MMA" fighter.


I sat through a martial arts class once for those people and thought "Wow, these guys suck"

I mean the instructor obviously knew his shiat, but 2/3 of the rest of those people there. They genuinely sucked
 
2013-05-22 09:36:21 AM
Pretty bizarre twist.  It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.  Also, what IS American law enforcement's fascination with shooting unarmed people?
 
2013-05-22 09:37:46 AM

Scorpius.Raven: Oddly written story, and the Weeners immediately brings the derp


Yay filter, I forgot about you.

/meant the prima opinionating on the linked article
 
2013-05-22 09:38:11 AM

king_nacho: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

uh, where did you read he was unarmed?


uh, he was being interviewed for hours by the FBI.  You don't think they do a pat down?

uhhhhhh

uhhh
 
2013-05-22 09:38:19 AM

Pick: Good! Saved the taxpayer's a ton of money.


Best hope that you never stand wrongly or falsely accused of something.
 
2013-05-22 09:38:56 AM

F22raptom: JPSimonetti: Isn't there a point at which your body is legally considered a lethal weapon? I remember reading a story a long time ago about a golden glove boxer that killed some guy in a drunken brawl and he was charged with using a deadly weapon. Would that justify lethal force by law enforcement? I don't know.

no


I would agree with you, but you're wrong.  If there is a huge difference in size between the officer and the violent suspect, and the officer has NO chance of winning a fight, and are in fear of their lives, yes, they can use lethal force. Or, and im guessing here, if the suspect has mad fighting skills that over match the officers, and he fears for his life, well, bye. It's happened before, will happen again, and the courts uphold the officer shooting someone who can overcome them.
 
2013-05-22 09:39:51 AM
It's not the media calling him an MMA fighter, it's how he represented himself to his buddy. This turd left a guy toothless and unconscious over a freaking parking space, I'd think the law enforcement officer had every reason to shoot him if he felt threatened.
 
2013-05-22 09:40:22 AM

nekom: Pretty bizarre twist.  It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere.  Also, what IS American law enforcement's fascination with shooting unarmed people?


They make easy practice targets?
 
2013-05-22 09:40:45 AM

skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....


He was coming right at him.
 
2013-05-22 09:45:27 AM

vudukungfu: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was coming right at him.


The suspect was armed with a frying pan so it was an even match
 
2013-05-22 09:45:54 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: reillan: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.

/He's never unarmed. A law enforcement officer can use deadly force to protect himself and others, even if the suspect doesn't have a weapon. Such as, if there was a struggle for the officers weapon, or the suspect was tying to grab it, or go for another weapon, or, maybe in this case, the guy was a islamic fundie with bad ass fighting skills, your average officer had no hope of overcoming. If you are in a position where you have to defend yourself, and the suspect is seriously going to kick your ass and you have 0 hope of winning a fight due to his skills, yes, you can shoot the prick. Police officers in the line of duty have no reason or are bound by no law to back off from an arrest or a interview. If the suspect changes it to a violent confrontation, and he gets killed? His bad.




People should know when they are conquered.
 
2013-05-22 09:47:41 AM
Lets see... an MMA fighter that beat a guy unconscious over a parking spot and "flipped out" while being interviewed.  Roid rage maybe?
 
2013-05-22 09:49:11 AM
The FBI in Florida confirmed to the Herald this morning that the suspect, now identified as Ibragim Todashev, has been shot in Orlando by an agent "conducting official duties."

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2013-05-22 09:50:31 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Bit'O'Gristle: reillan: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

He was an MMA fighter.  He's never unarmed.

/He's never unarmed. A law enforcement officer can use deadly force to protect himself and others, even if the suspect doesn't have a weapon. Such as, if there was a struggle for the officers weapon, or the suspect was tying to grab it, or go for another weapon, or, maybe in this case, the guy was a islamic fundie with bad ass fighting skills, your average officer had no hope of overcoming. If you are in a position where you have to defend yourself, and the suspect is seriously going to kick your ass and you have 0 hope of winning a fight due to his skills, yes, you can shoot the prick. Police officers in the line of duty have no reason or are bound by no law to back off from an arrest or a interview. If the suspect changes it to a violent confrontation, and he gets killed? His bad.

People should know when they are conquered.


lol
 
2013-05-22 09:50:58 AM

skankboy: king_nacho: skankboy: It is appears he was unarmed... Interesting....

uh, where did you read he was unarmed?

uh, he was being interviewed for hours by the FBI.  You don't think they do a pat down?

uhhhhhh

uhhh


I don't know how the FBI handle interviews in a persons' home so I don't know if they pat them down or not, or if they search every couch cushion to make sure there isn't a knitting needle nearby that could be used as a weapon. So far the only info says there was a violent confrontation, the FBI agent sustained non life threatening injuries and the person they were questioning is dead.
 
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