Mentat: It doesn't sound from the article like they proved anything. If someone had the original emails, why were the quotes "poorly transcribed" in the first place? And the poor transcription was pretty blatant when you compare to the original emails. In some cases, it changed the entire meaning of the emails. At best, a reporter screwed up horribly and is trying to cover his back side. At worst, someone knowingly fed him false information and is now trying to shift the blame to the Administration. This whole thing has stung the Republicans pretty hard to the point where the top guys are starting to back off. This isn't going to get them their credibility back.
Phinn: Has anyone determined where Obama was and what he was doing between the time he was told the embassy was under attack and the time the ambassador was murdered?I heard the question asked, but I don't remember getting an answer.I ask because we were treated to those photos of Obama in the Situation Room being very presidential-looking when bin Ladin was being killed. Are there any photos of him dealing with the embassy murders in a similar manner?
Codenamechaz: So if I'm reading this right, they're saying the white house is lying because there's no way republicans would do something like make up a statement to make someone else look bad?
factoryconnection: Yeah none of this actually addresses embassy security or funding, just finger-pointing and ego-bruise salving and whatnot.
jpo2269: Halli,"Karl over the weekend tweeted, "I sincerely regret the error I made describing an email from Ben Rhodes. I should have stated, as I did elsewhere, the reporting was based on a summary provided by a source. I apologize for my mistake." He declined to comment further."It appears you are wrong in your assertion.
Phinn: vygramul: Ah, so now you're backing off your interpretation of the fifth. That's good that you can admit you're of the "guilty until proven innocent" crowd.Have you had a head injury recently?
Phinn: TheBigJerk: How the fark do you "poorly transcribe" an email?By only being given a chance to read and hand-copy it, rather than being handed a hard copy.
vygramul: FlashHarry: factoryconnection: Will we be seeing conservatives defending.... nay, hailing the efforts of the liberal, in-the-tank, lamestream MSM media like the WaPo and broadcast news outlets? Someone check the weather report for Hell!point of fact: the WaPo is a rightwing paper.Not even close.I dont know where the hell people get this unless they're using the conservative strategy of declaring someone impure and therefore their polar opposite because of a couple of statements inconsistent with their ideology.
zedster: I think the fact checker is ignoring intent and looking at semantics here which happens all the time
Astorix: mrshowrules: Codenamechaz: So if I'm reading this right, they're saying the white house is lying because there's no way republicans would do something like make up a statement to make someone else look bad?Basically the "no one could be this stupid" defense. You could use this defense retroactively:-Nixon would not have been so stupid as to record his meetings about bugging the hotel rooms-Certainly Bush wouldn't have been so stupid as to invade Iraq unless they were sure where the WMD's were-Reagan would never have been dumb enough to authorize giving arms to terrorists for hostagesAfter these true outlandish crimes and the fact that the Republicans tried so hard to steal Clinton's presidency over a bj I just can't muster up any excitement over this. The drone strikes concern me much more, but everybody is focused on this--comparatively speaking--trivial issue.
vygramul: thurstonxhowell: factoryconnection: FlashHarry: point of fact: the WaPo is a rightwing paper.Wait... what? Where does that put the WaTimes and the Examiner?The Post is right-leaning, the Examiner is right-wing, and the Times should not be called a newspaper.And that's why the Post endorsed Obama.
Phinn: Vodka Zombie: Phinn: Has anyone determined where Obama was and what he was doing between the time he was told the embassy was under attack and the time the ambassador was murdered?Do we know how much time passed between one and the other?If you start there, you may be able to find out what he was doing.Why don't you just tell me where he was, since you seem to know?
spentshells: This is actually why Ron Paul should have been elected. Americans would not have even been in that country.Too bad you all did not think this through. It is unfortunate Dr. Paul will be too old to run for office next time around. I told all my friends in the USA to write him in.
Phinn: Has anyone determined where Obama was and what he was doing between the time he was told the embassy was under attack and the time the ambassador was murdered?
factoryconnection: FlashHarry: point of fact: the WaPo is a rightwing paper.Wait... what? Where does that put the WaTimes and the Examiner?
James!: That article doesn't say what you think it says. He gave the Pinocchios to the White house.
unlikely: All of this is one round of stupid heaped on top of the last.
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