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2013-05-22 06:11:09 AM  

suicide: HotWingAgenda: "She stayed in character for the whole thing. Oliver thought she was the real Queen, and well, that's good enough for us,"

That is horribly depressing.  I get that parents lie to their kids all the time, but going out of your way to publicize the fact that you tricked your kid into believing he will be buried as an actual English knight?

Yeah, this is kinda farked up. I get that everyone's heart was in the right place and that you can't really tell a kid with a horrible disease "Well, we can't give you what you wanted, but here's an actor", but it is kinda shiatty to go along with an act instead of seeing what they could do about his *next* biggest wish or something. Nice things are nice but maybe in time they'll wish they did something more legitimate. But what do I know, I don't even have a kid, let alone one with a terminal health problem. Just struck me as weird, is all.


FTFA: Mirren brought Oliver and his family to Gielgud Theatre to see her play the Queen in Peter Morgan's The Audience.

Since she hosted them at a play she was acting in, I'm guessing that a kid without disabilities /might/ have figured out she was an actress. The parents, rather than say "Yay! Let's deceive Jr." were more acknowledging that their child couldn't really understand the difference, and that was fine, because it made him really happy for a day. Kudos for Mirren, taking time out of her day and life, to make a kid happy.
 
2013-05-22 06:31:51 AM  
You can bet your ass she put 100% of her acting MOJO into the performance. Helen Mirren doesn't do half-way shiat. Lucky nurses. What an honor to have seen it.
 
2013-05-22 06:36:30 AM  
Oh crap. I just noticed If you zoom in really close you can see the netting on the front of that cheap wig. Plus in the second photo she is stealing the kids wheelchair. fark her.
 
2013-05-22 06:41:08 AM  

HotWingAgenda: "She stayed in character for the whole thing. Oliver thought she was the real Queen, and well, that's good enough for us,"

That is horribly depressing.  I get that parents lie to their kids all the time, but going out of your way to publicize the fact that you tricked your kid into believing he will be buried as an actual English knight?


"Rover went to live on a farm, kids".

The kid's a cancer-stricken Downie. I doubt he'll be scanning the pages of the newspaper, even the Daily Fail, and will discover his folks' cunning plan. He'll be lucky to say "Today is July First".
 
2013-05-22 06:49:28 AM  
Helen Mirren is about as awesome as it gets. Especially the verbal beatdown she gave the drummers outside the theater, detailed in another, related story on that page.
 
2013-05-22 06:52:49 AM  

HotWingAgenda: "She stayed in character for the whole thing. Oliver thought she was the real Queen, and well, that's good enough for us,"

That is horribly depressing.  I get that parents lie to their kids all the time, but going out of your way to publicize the fact that you tricked your kid into believing he will be buried as an actual English knight?


He better really die at this point, or he's going to feel like real asshole later on.

Brought to you by the "Make a Wish/Receive a Lie Foundation"
 
2013-05-22 06:56:58 AM  

MmmmBacon: Helen Mirren is about as awesome as it gets. Especially the verbal beatdown she gave the drummers outside the theater, detailed in another, related story on that page.


A true Lady of class.  Wish we had more of them.
 
2013-05-22 07:01:52 AM  
Hehe. You people still have a Queen.

/tourists come to see the buildings and shiat, not the actual monarchs
 
2013-05-22 07:06:43 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the queen

/useless waste of tax money
//of course, if we had one here in the US, the Republicans would likely be all for it


C'mon Obama is doing is doing the best he can to become king
 
2013-05-22 07:07:50 AM  

Onkel Buck: MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the queen

/useless waste of tax money
//of course, if we had one here in the US, the Republicans would likely be all for it

C'mon Obama is doing is doing the best he can to become king


(Fox 'News' viewer detected)
 
2013-05-22 07:19:12 AM  

Mugato: Hehe. You people still have a Queen.

/tourists come to see the buildings and shiat, not the actual monarchs


Word.

Remember the so called "Royal Wedding" a couple years ago.  Nobody gave a sh*t about that, at least here in the States.
 
2013-05-22 07:23:34 AM  

The Muthaship: Mugato: Hehe. You people still have a Queen.

/tourists come to see the buildings and shiat, not the actual monarchs

Word.

Remember the so called "Royal Wedding" a couple years ago.  Nobody gave a sh*t about that, at least here in the States.


I'm sure some did, but I think that due to the time difference, it was happening at or just before the crack of dawn.
 
2013-05-22 07:26:38 AM  

Alphax: I'm sure some did, but I think that due to the time difference, it was happening at or just before the crack of dawn.


Sorry, I was being sarcastic.  It was huge, and people set their alarms to get up and watch it live.  People are infatuated with them even here.
 
2013-05-22 07:35:50 AM  

The Muthaship: Alphax: I'm sure some did, but I think that due to the time difference, it was happening at or just before the crack of dawn.

Sorry, I was being sarcastic.  It was huge, and people set their alarms to get up and watch it live.  People are infatuated with them even here.


I never understood the ridiculous amounts of hype that got. Even when most people I knew who lived in that neck of the woods were more happy to have the day than really caring about why. 

Although I did love the stories:
Is the future queen pregnant? 
Does the Queen hate the newest addition to the family?
The royal princes throw a bachelor party - reports show that someone received a hand job from another individual dressed in a suit of armor.
 
2013-05-22 07:51:57 AM  
Unfortunately impersonating the Queen is the one thing they still have the death penalty for in Great Britain.  Mirren's head will be planted on a spike over at The Tower at noon tomorrow.
 
mhd
2013-05-22 07:56:48 AM  

The Muthaship: Remember the so called "Royal Wedding" a couple years ago. Nobody gave a sh*t about that, at least here in the States.


6-7am, 23 million viewers.
 
2013-05-22 08:13:18 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the queen

/useless waste of tax money
//of course, if we had one here in the US, the Republicans would likely be all for it

The Royal family brings in an incredibly high amount of tourist money.

She's also 87 years old and her health isn't the best any more.


neither is the boy's... maybe she could empathize. or she could have invited the boy to buckingham and had one of her other useless relatives fill in for tea with him.
 
2013-05-22 08:13:35 AM  

mhd: The Muthaship: Remember the so called "Royal Wedding" a couple years ago. Nobody gave a sh*t about that, at least here in the States.

6-7am, 23 million viewers.


You're ruining the narrative.
 
2013-05-22 08:28:21 AM  
Wow.  Gawker commenters make Fark's look like the Harvard Debate Club.  Scroll down the list for the comment about Steve from Blue's Clues.
 
2013-05-22 08:39:54 AM  

ng2810: At least with the Royals, they come from respectable families that (for the most part) have had great leadership skills and some semblance of honor. Loyalty is something that America is starting to run out of, and at least in the UK the loyalty that most people have to their Queen is something that unites generations.


You do realize who you are talking to? An American. You know, people who belong to a nation which was created because the King was being neither honorable or loyal to his own subjects from across the pond.
 
2013-05-22 08:43:05 AM  
MaudlinMutantMollusk:

/no, I'm sorry. Hereditary monarchy is as silly to me as religion
//what real purpose does a primarily symbolic monarch serve?


It allows people to support the country as a whole while still being critical of the policies of the elected government.  Not that people can't do that anyway, but it makes it rhetorically easier to dodge the accusations of "OMGTHETREASONS!" when they say strenuously disapprove of the policies of elected officials.

/Hail the King
//Damn the man
///Hail to the King, baby
 
2013-05-22 08:52:20 AM  

deaccessioned: MaudlinMutantMollusk:

/no, I'm sorry. Hereditary monarchy is as silly to me as religion
//what real purpose does a primarily symbolic monarch serve?

It allows people to support the country as a whole while still being critical of the policies of the elected government.  Not that people can't do that anyway, but it makes it rhetorically easier to dodge the accusations of "OMGTHETREASONS!" when they say strenuously disapprove of the policies of elected officials.

/Hail the King
//Damn the man
///Hail to the King, baby


The trait "Hereditary Monarchy" gives the British +5 morale and +.25% crit chance during times of war.  That's a real purpose.

When player Winston Churchill activated "For King and Country", you cannot deny it was super effective.
 
2013-05-22 08:55:05 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Benevolent Misanthrope: MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the queen

/useless waste of tax money
//of course, if we had one here in the US, the Republicans would likely be all for it

You know, you're right. She should just get off the national teat. Yep, she should take back all that property and its revenue she gives to the Nation from her inherited holdings, and give the English back their civil list. I'm sure that would work out well, financially.

So you're supporting the concept we fought a war to dump?

/no, I'm sorry. Hereditary monarchy is as silly to me as religion
//what real purpose does a primarily symbolic monarch serve?


We fought the idea of a government we had no say in, we didn't fight the idea of a monarch with no power whatsoever. The colonists would probably have been happy if they just gave us a few seats in Parliament, and things would have ended right there.

And there are very good reason to separate the roles of Head of State and Head of Government- besides both roles being full time jobs, it separates politics and patriotism remarkably well- when they get conflated, as they often do here, calling the President a bad name can get you branded an unpatriotic traitor. When you call the British PM a traitorous twit, it's politics as usual. You also avoid the political protests that can accompany a foreign trip. Again, think of Bush. Goodwill trips to foreign Countries resulted in massive protests following him everywhere- that happens much less when it's a non-political Head of State doing that kind of trip, and a partisan Head of Government drawing the flack. It doesn't have to be a hereditary monarch (BTW Canada, whatever happened to that Shatner as Gov. General idea?), but if you have a hereditary monarchy in place, why not continue your history and traditions?

But no, all those countries with separate Head of State roles- Governors General, Presidents (many countries have a political PM and a ceremonial Presidency), Constitutional Monarchs...

Seriously, there's real value to the arrangement. Besides the fact that if you ended the monarchy, Elizabeth Windsor would take all of her land, right now producing substantial revenues for the British Government, and retire to enjoying all of those revenues and being one of the richest people on the planet earth.
 
2013-05-22 09:00:18 AM  
To be honest, I'd rather be visited by Helen Mirren playing the Queen rather than the Queen herself.
 
j4x
2013-05-22 09:06:43 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Benevolent Misanthrope: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Benevolent Misanthrope: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the queen

/useless waste of tax money
//of course, if we had one here in the US, the Republicans would likely be all for it

The Royal family brings in an incredibly high amount of tourist money.

She's also 87 years old and her health isn't the best any more.

But she's not the last of them

/and how much does the "Royal Family" bring in vs their cost?
//how much would it be if their properties were like our national parks?
///royalty is an absurd and outdated concept on any level

Says the guy from California.

The royals bring in way more than they cost. Not even counting the tourist money, the last figure I saw was that they give the State huge revenues from private land holdings, and the State gives them about 20% back in Civil List income. And no, that doesn't count state-owned properties and parks, just the land holdings that belong to the family privately.

I live in one of her dominions. Her job is pretty-much like the ceremonial side of the White House, only bigger. There's no real power, so it really doesn't bother methat she's a hereditary monarch.

Whatever

/defend pointlessness if you will
//it remains pointless
///WTF does being from California have to do with it?

The California comment was to point out that you're a self-appointed advocate for a group of people (the oppressed masses yearning to breathe free under a monarchy) you really have nothing to do with. You have no dog in this fight - why the passion?

Because I think "Her Majesty" could have been a bit more human under the circumstances. Where I live is totally irrelevant, as is your "self-apointed advocate" comment

/It's my personal opinion, and I shall express it as I will


How many fedoras do you own?
 
2013-05-22 09:28:31 AM  

kbronsito: neither is the boy's... maybe she could empathize. or she could have invited the boy to buckingham and had one of her other useless relatives fill in for tea with him.


Too bad her dream wasn't to meet a dying young boy with Down's Syndrome and they could have killed two birds with one stone.
 
2013-05-22 09:36:28 AM  
What 10 year old has a dream of meeting the Queen? Not Batman, not Scarlett Johansson but the farking Queen?
 
2013-05-22 09:59:08 AM  
A 10-year-old with cancer and Downs. Draw your own conclusions.
 
2013-05-22 10:02:43 AM  

Valiente: A 10-year-old with cancer and Downs. Draw your own conclusions.


God reeeeeally hates that kid?
 
2013-05-22 10:10:51 AM  

HotWingAgenda: "She stayed in character for the whole thing. Oliver thought she was the real Queen, and well, that's good enough for us,"

That is horribly depressing.  I get that parents lie to their kids all the time, but going out of your way to publicize the fact that you tricked your kid into believing he will be buried as an actual English knight?


I tend to disagree. This is a kid who has apparently suffered a great deal in his short life and who will in all likelihood be dead soon. Letting the kid keep that moment for his few remaining days seems a lot kinder to me than letting him know that he really met Helen Mirren instead of the Queen and wasn't really knighted. What would be the point of telling him the truth? Letting him know that life can be cruel? He's got Down Syndrome and several flavors of cancer - developmentally disabled or not, he's probably learned that lesson. Honesty is all well and good, but despite the saying, it's not always the best policy.
 
2013-05-22 10:15:10 AM  

mekki: You do realize who you are talking to? An American. You know, people who belong to a nation which was created because the King was being neither honorable or loyal to his own subjects from across the pond.


Well to be fair the king had very little to do with it.  But it is much harder to build momentum to make a new democratic body when your enemy is a somewhat less representative democratic body.  easier to just rail against "tyrants."
 
2013-05-22 10:22:03 AM  

Mugato: What 10 year old has a dream of meeting the Queen? Not Batman, not Scarlett Johansson but the farking Queen?


A fabulous 10 year old?
 
2013-05-22 10:23:49 AM  

Mugato: What 10 year old has a dream of meeting the Queen? Not Batman, not Scarlett Johansson but the farking Queen?


An English one?
 
2013-05-22 10:37:13 AM  

fusillade762: Neeek: fusillade762: Atomic Spunk: Too bad she didn't show up in this outfit:
[binside.typepad.com image 500x870]

What are those from?

SNL.

Digital Short: Helen Mirren's Magical Bosom


That gave me such a wonderful boner
 
2013-05-22 10:43:43 AM  

mekki: ng2810: At least with the Royals, they come from respectable families that (for the most part) have had great leadership skills and some semblance of honor. Loyalty is something that America is starting to run out of, and at least in the UK the loyalty that most people have to their Queen is something that unites generations.

You do realize who you are talking to? An American. You know, people who belong to a nation which was created because the King was being neither honorable or loyal to his own subjects from across the pond.


Oh come on. George III had completely lost the plot by that point.

The Parliament was being neither honorable nor loyal to the British subjects in the colonies.
 
2013-05-22 11:06:50 AM  
The Queen doesn't have time - even it would have been a nice gesture but yikes! She does it once there will be a line around the block.

And good on Dame Mirren for stepping up.

Besides you think Obama would take time away from his golf games or shooting hoops?
Nah me neither.
 
2013-05-22 11:22:59 AM  

Krusty's Wench: MmmmBacon: Helen Mirren is about as awesome as it gets. Especially the verbal beatdown she gave the drummers outside the theater, detailed in another, related story on that page.

A true Lady of class.  Wish we had more of them.


Her majesty's a pretty nice girl
but she doesn't have a lot to say.
Her majesty's a pretty nice girl
but she changes from day to day.

I wanna tell her that I love her a lot,
but I gotta get a belly full of wine.
Her majesty's a pretty nice girl,
someday I'm gonna make her mine.
Oh yeah, someday I'm gonna make her mine.
 
2013-05-22 11:26:41 AM  

douchebag/hater: The Queen doesn't have time - even it would have been a nice gesture but yikes! She does it once there will be a line around the block.

And good on Dame Mirren for stepping up.

Besides you think Obama would take time away from his golf games or shooting hoops?
Nah me neither.


Pretty much every single celebrity and athlete that gets hit up for these make-a-wish deals is busy.... many of them doing things that require more effort than being a glorified rubber-stamping figurehead. It's not like athletes have practices and endorsement commitments they have to attend. I'm sure Helen Mirren has sh*t she has to do also. And every single one that agrees to one of these wish deals risks having a line around the corner with more kids asking to meet them.
 
2013-05-22 11:37:03 AM  

ng2810: At least with the Royals, they come from respectable families that (for the most part) have had great leadership skills and some semblance of honor. Loyalty is something that America is starting to run out of, and at least in the UK the loyalty that most people have to their Queen is something that unites generations.


You must be visualizing the Hollywood version of a royal families.  The true history of pretty much all monarch is one of cousin farking, back stabbing, theocratic oppression, screwing over the serfs and proving they have a bigger dick by sending some 'loyal' subjects to die in the farking dirt.
 
2013-05-22 11:43:28 AM  

The Muthaship: Mugato: Hehe. You people still have a Queen.

/tourists come to see the buildings and shiat, not the actual monarchs

Word.

Remember the so called "Royal Wedding" a couple years ago.  Nobody gave a sh*t about that, at least here in the States.


It was fun until the Princess was kidnapped...

upload.wikimedia.org

/Not tradition...
//At all...
 
2013-05-22 11:44:10 AM  
 
2013-05-22 11:52:00 AM  

what_now: mekki: ng2810: At least with the Royals, they come from respectable families that (for the most part) have had great leadership skills and some semblance of honor. Loyalty is something that America is starting to run out of, and at least in the UK the loyalty that most people have to their Queen is something that unites generations.

You do realize who you are talking to? An American. You know, people who belong to a nation which was created because the King was being neither honorable or loyal to his own subjects from across the pond.

Oh come on. George III had completely lost the plot by that point.

The Parliament was being neither honorable nor loyal to the British subjects in the colonies.


Well, they did have the gall to think maybe we should pay for the part of the Seven Years War fought in our sphere.  We happily settled the new lands and kicked out the Indians against the British promises but they were the ones acting without honor.
 
2013-05-22 11:53:35 AM  

wingnut396: ng2810: At least with the Royals, they come from respectable families that (for the most part) have had great leadership skills and some semblance of honor. Loyalty is something that America is starting to run out of, and at least in the UK the loyalty that most people have to their Queen is something that unites generations.

You must be visualizing the Hollywood version of a royal families.  The true history of pretty much all monarch is one of cousin farking, back stabbing, theocratic oppression, screwing over the serfs and proving they have a bigger dick by sending some 'loyal' subjects to die in the farking dirt.


Except the East Roman Empire, they were more into screwing each other over for the purple slippers then screwing the serfs.  The least safe place was the Imperial Palace.
 
2013-05-22 11:57:15 AM  
DarkLancelot:

Well, they did have the gall to think maybe we should pay for the part of the Seven Years War fought in our sphere.  We happily settled the new lands and kicked out the Indians against the British promises but they were the ones acting without honor.

We also negotiated the peace treaty w/o inviting our French allies, who would have wanted to get the own concessions during those negotiations (thanks for the help France, we got ours... so fark you!). Face it people... the founding fathers were dicks.
 
2013-05-22 12:01:23 PM  

Nurglitch: To be honest, I'd rather be visited by Helen Mirren playing the Queen rather than the Queen herself.


So.  Much.  THIS!

(Thanks again for the TF, MaudlinMutantMollusk.)
 
2013-05-22 12:05:38 PM  

Rann Xerox: Nurglitch: To be honest, I'd rather be visited by Helen Mirren playing the Queen rather than the Queen herself.

So.  Much.  THIS!

(Thanks again for the TF, MaudlinMutantMollusk.)


I will second that THIS.

/like discovering it's not Santa, but actually Robert Downey Jr
 
2013-05-22 12:50:22 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the queen

/useless waste of tax money
//of course, if we had one here in the US, the Republicans would likely be all for it


Oh come on, like there's any other reason to give a shiat about visiting your country for tourism.
 
2013-05-22 01:25:58 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: F*ck the queen

/useless waste of tax money
//of course, if we had one here in the US, the Republicans would likely be all for it

The Royal family brings in an incredibly high amount of tourist money.

She's also 87 years old and her health isn't the best any more.

But she's not the last of them

/and how much does the "Royal Family" bring in vs their cost?
//how much would it be if their properties were like our national parks?
///royalty is an absurd and outdated concept on any level

Says the guy from California.

The royals bring in way more than they cost. Not even counting the tourist money, the last figure I saw was that they give the State huge revenues from private land holdings, and the State gives them about 20% back in Civil List income. And no, that doesn't count state-owned properties and parks, just the land holdings that belong to the family privately.

I live in one of her dominions. Her job is pretty-much like the ceremonial side of the White House, only bigger. There's no real power, so it really doesn't bother methat she's a hereditary monarch.


1) Wouldn't the state get even MORE revenue from the queen's holdings if the state, y'know, actually OWNED them?
2) Exactly how much does the Queen bring in?  I'd just like to know what the going rate is for an English subject's dignity.
 
2013-05-22 01:38:34 PM  
wildsnowllama:

Because in California (aka Hollywood) we worship and idolize random human beings because they can sing, dance or giggle their ass the right way.

At least with the Royals, they come from respectable families that (for the most part) have had great leadership skills and some semblance of honor. Loyalty is something that America is starting to run out of, and at least in the UK the loyalty that most people have to their Queen is something that unites generations.

Respectable families? The Nazi sympathizers?


Nah, he's probably talking about that guy who killed half of his wives because he couldn't get them pregnant, and then stole a bunch of stuff from the church.  Or maybe he's talking about the guy who killed his young nephews so he could sit on the fancy chair.  One of those, probably.
 
2013-05-22 02:15:25 PM  
Don't know about you, but I'd hit that so hard, I'd break my hip
 
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