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(The Daily Beast)   Mitt Romney's chief strategist, who saw nothing wrong with Mark Sanford running for Congress after sex scandal, sees major problems with Anthony Weiner running for NYC mayor after sex scandal   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 75
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2013-05-21 02:18:40 PM
"Stuart Stevens was the chief strategist for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign."

Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?
 
2013-05-21 02:20:53 PM
You mean the same brilliant strategist behind ORCA?

Not sure why inshould give 2 farks about what this guy thinks.
 
2013-05-21 02:22:28 PM

Car_Ramrod: "Stuart Stevens was the chief strategist for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign."

Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?


I would.  Who wouldn't be proud of being able to keep a job while doing fark all?    Most farkers aspire to the amount of nothing that man did.
 
2013-05-21 02:27:03 PM
Well, if this dude is not from NYC it doesn't really matter does it?
 
2013-05-21 02:27:59 PM

EvilEgg: Car_Ramrod: "Stuart Stevens was the chief strategist for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign."

Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?

I would.  Who wouldn't be proud of being able to keep a job while doing fark all?    Most farkers aspire to the amount of nothing that man did.


That's true. Hell, I probably could've done a better job running Romney's campaign, and I wanted him to only see the White House on a tour.
 
2013-05-21 02:28:23 PM

Car_Ramrod: Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?


His grandfather was the captain of the Hindenburg and his father was the driving force behind New Coke in 1985.
 
2013-05-21 02:28:27 PM
Is hide the weenie the same as show the weenie?
 
2013-05-21 02:32:29 PM
Both show huge deficiencies in judgment. Only one is a sex scandal.
 
2013-05-21 02:56:27 PM
1. Romney's campaign strategist is already starting with a disadvantage
2. Sanford's cardinal sin WAS HYPOCRISY as well
3. The guy may actually still have a point about Anthony Weiner, assuming his characterization is correct.  The funny thing is that Sanford is a pain-in-the-ass, stubborn lawmaker that is persona non grata to his own party as well.

Damn these dudes may be two sides of the same coin!
 
2013-05-21 03:05:02 PM
To be fair to the author, he wasn't arguing that the "scandal" disqualified Weiner.  He was arguing, instead, that Weiner would be a poor choice with or without any scandal
 
2013-05-21 03:06:21 PM
www.dudelol.com
 
2013-05-21 03:12:59 PM
Here's a guy who regularly condescended to every member of Congress but whose intellectual talents were such that he originally aspired to be a weatherman.

nesncom.files.wordpress.com

/I don't know, maybe reading score results is loftier than reading the weather
 
2013-05-21 03:15:13 PM

robsul82: Here's a guy who regularly condescended to every member of Congress but whose intellectual talents were such that he originally aspired to be a weatherman.

[nesncom.files.wordpress.com image 476x355]

/I don't know, maybe reading score results is loftier than reading the weather


I think a meteorologist is a real sciency type guy.  So it's not as bad a talking head.
 
2013-05-21 03:25:41 PM

EvilEgg: robsul82: Here's a guy who regularly condescended to every member of Congress but whose intellectual talents were such that he originally aspired to be a weatherman.

[nesncom.files.wordpress.com image 476x355]

/I don't know, maybe reading score results is loftier than reading the weather

I think a meteorologist is a real sciency type guy.  So it's not as bad a talking head.


Tom Skilling will beat the crap out of anyone talking smack about weathermen. His Twitter and Facebook feeds are chock full of amazingness and encyclopedic weather knowledge.

tapchicago.com
 
2013-05-21 03:26:35 PM

EvilEgg: robsul82: Here's a guy who regularly condescended to every member of Congress but whose intellectual talents were such that he originally aspired to be a weatherman.

[nesncom.files.wordpress.com image 476x355]

/I don't know, maybe reading score results is loftier than reading the weather

I think a meteorologist is a real sciency type guy.  So it's not as bad a talking head.


That, and the fact that it's always the weatherman that gets the sweet, sweet intern lovin'.
 
2013-05-21 03:32:19 PM
While Weiner shouldn't run, this guy shouldn't opine.
 
2013-05-21 03:35:44 PM
Hey I'm on TF again after another sponsorship so my views matter more than the liter scum

OVEN IS THE HITLER IN OBAMA'S JEW
 
2013-05-21 03:37:03 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: While Weiner shouldn't run, this guy shouldn't opine.


This. Thank you.
 
2013-05-21 03:52:57 PM

EvilEgg: Car_Ramrod: "Stuart Stevens was the chief strategist for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign."

Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?

I would.  Who wouldn't be proud of being able to keep a job while doing fark all?    Most farkers aspire to the amount of nothing that man did.


I don't think you realize that some people have to work really hard to be that incompetent.
 
2013-05-21 03:57:25 PM

Car_Ramrod: "Stuart Stevens was the chief strategist for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign."

Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?


I would, it would really up my liberal cred.
 
2013-05-21 04:01:36 PM

robsul82: Here's a guy who regularly condescended to every member of Congress but whose intellectual talents were such that he originally aspired to be a weatherman.

[nesncom.files.wordpress.com image 476x355]

/I don't know, maybe reading score results is loftier than reading the weather


It gets you premium dick.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-05-21 04:02:02 PM

BunkoSquad: Car_Ramrod: Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?

His grandfather was the captain of the Hindenburg and his father was the driving force behind New Coke in 1985.


I had a prof. once say of Robert McNamara:

"He was chairman of Ford when the build the Edsel, Secretary of Defense during the Vietnam War and Head of the World Bank when the ran out of money."
 
2013-05-21 04:02:34 PM

Captain Dan: To be fair to the author, he wasn't arguing that the "scandal" disqualified Weiner.  He was arguing, instead, that Weiner would be a poor choice with or without any scandal


But a poor choice for whom?
 
2013-05-21 04:03:34 PM
Subby, you don't get it.  For there to be moral equivalence between Anthony Weiner and Mark Sanford, Weiner would have had to marry everyone he showed his boner to.  And that would be polygamy and therefore illegal.

Check and mate.
 
2013-05-21 04:07:07 PM
He then accidentally strangled himself with his shoelaces.
 
2013-05-21 04:08:12 PM
Anthony Weiner has been pretty popular in NYC for a few years. When the "scandal" broke it was more "HAHA his penis!" than any real outrage.
 
2013-05-21 04:08:27 PM

what_now: I had a prof. once say of Robert McNamara:

"He was chairman of Ford when the build the Edsel, Secretary of Defense during the Vietnam War and Head of the World Bank when the ran out of money."


It's a shame he didn't live long enough to be part of Team Mitt 2012
 
2013-05-21 04:11:25 PM
Mitt Romney's Chief Strategist.........sucks at his job.
 
2013-05-21 04:11:28 PM

Girl From The North Country: You mean the same brilliant strategist behind ORCA?

Not sure why inshould give 2 farks about what this guy thinks.


"The boss just told us he's never going to release his tax returns.  What should we do?"

"We could campaign on the idea that the wealthy are being unfairly taxed."

"BRILLIANT!"
 
2013-05-21 04:15:50 PM

EvilEgg: robsul82: Here's a guy who regularly condescended to every member of Congress but whose intellectual talents were such that he originally aspired to be a weatherman.

[nesncom.files.wordpress.com image 476x355]

/I don't know, maybe reading score results is loftier than reading the weather

I think a meteorologist is a real sciency type guy.  So it's not as bad a talking head.


Seriously.  Intellectually speaking, I would place your average meteorologist over a politician any day.
 
2013-05-21 04:17:34 PM
Hey Weiner-

You were a firebrand and I loved you. That was before your dick-tweeting. You showed an incredible lack of character and I'll never believe anything you say again, so go away. And for christ's sake, start doing right by your wife, you schmuck.
 
2013-05-21 04:18:24 PM

BunkoSquad: Car_Ramrod: Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?

His grandfather was the captain of the Hindenburg and his father was the driving force behind New Coke in 1985.


And his brother told Steve Bartman to try and catch that baseball back in 2003.
 
2013-05-21 04:23:55 PM
It's as if we have a shortage of Americans who are willing to occupy a public office and we are therefore left with less than desirable choices.

USA USA USA!
 
2013-05-21 04:26:43 PM

Isitoveryet: It's as if we have a shortage of Americans who are willing to occupy a public office and we are therefore left with less than desirable choices.

USA USA USA!


Pretty much anyone who actually should be in office is considered "unelectable".
 
2013-05-21 04:37:37 PM
Not really a surprise.  Fox News already was pushing this back when Weiner announced his intentions.  Apparently a crotch shot on Twitter is worse than using taxpayer dollars to bang your mistress in Argentina.
 
2013-05-21 04:38:20 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Isitoveryet: It's as if we have a shortage of Americans who are willing to occupy a public office and we are therefore left with less than desirable choices.

USA USA USA!

Pretty much anyone who actually should be in office is considered "unelectable".


It's depressing.
Hell, even if we did manage to get someone in with a brain & a heart, self respect & respect for others, they'd be chewed up, spit out & crucified by the "K Street" whores.
 
2013-05-21 04:43:23 PM
Wait, the Romney campaign had a strategy?
 
2013-05-21 04:47:45 PM

Fart_Machine: Fox News already was pushing back when Weiner announced his intentions

started "ramming his business down their throats"

/Had to use their favorite metaphor for not getting their way.
//It's what they would want, really
 
2013-05-21 04:49:28 PM
Actually, it wouldn't be such a bad thing to prevent a total shiatbag like Weiner from becoming Mayor of the most powerful city in the country, but maybe that's just me.

And Mittens' former Chief Derpster, apparently.
 
2013-05-21 04:51:30 PM
www.dachworld.com

Weinergate
 
2013-05-21 04:52:21 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Wait, the Romney campaign had a strategy?


Not having a strategy is a type of strategy...
 
2013-05-21 04:56:53 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Hey Weiner-

You were a firebrand and I loved you. That was before your dick-tweeting. You showed an incredible lack of character and I'll never believe anything you say again, so go away. And for christ's sake, start doing right by your wife, you schmuck.


Yeah, it wasn't the actual dick-tweeting, it was the week plus of "Well, how do you know that was my dick and my Twitter account?" that ultimately turned us libs against him.

Or as I believe I put it at the time, "Fark you, Anthony Weiner, for giving Breitbart something to be right about."
 
2013-05-21 05:04:38 PM
IOKIYAR
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2013-05-21 05:06:11 PM
both men lied. only one of them improperly spent tax payer money seeing his mistress, stuck his dick in said mistress and abandoned the state of which he was the chief executive officer for a week to do so.

meh. both electorates deserve better.
 
2013-05-21 05:13:20 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Hey Weiner-

You were a firebrand and I loved you. That was before your dick-tweeting. You showed an incredible lack of character and I'll never believe anything you say again, so go away. And for christ's sake, start doing right by your wife, you schmuck.


So you're saying a man cannot be a good politician/lawmaker and also enjoy admiration from a woman other than his wife. What a very American thing to think.

Your comment about him doing right by his wife is rather regressive. If his wife doesn't like his actions, she's free to kick his ass out. Give the woman some credit for being able to make decisions in her own interest rather than imposing your quaint notions of how her husband should behave.
 
2013-05-21 05:15:49 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Wait, the Romney campaign had a strategy?


It was to not be black.
 
2013-05-21 05:16:54 PM

sammyk: Well, if this dude is not from NYC it doesn't really matter does it?


Pretty much.  In actually, Weiner just has to snap his fingers and the Mayor's Office is his.   Yeah, the other candidates involved are that farking weak.
 
2013-05-21 05:20:35 PM

Mithiwithi: Or as I believe I put it at the time, "Fark you, Anthony Weiner, for giving Breitbart something to be right about."


That really was the worst part of the whole thing.
 
2013-05-21 05:20:47 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Hey Weiner-

You were a firebrand and I loved you. That was before your dick-tweeting. You showed an incredible lack of character and I'll never believe anything you say again, so go away. And for christ's sake, start doing right by your wife, you schmuck.



What?? You mutherfarkers are a trip. By no means am I excusing the dick tweet, but there's ONE person who that should matter too...HIS WIFE. If she can forgive him for actions that fall short of infidelity, then why are you all so torn up about it? Smart people do dumb shiat sometimes. Stop with this judgemental bullshiat about small stuff. You're going to get some asshole elected who is going to do far worse because instead of worrying about policies you'll be checking the internet to make sure the other guy doesn't have any dick pics. This is the bullshiat that got GWB elected the first time. Its not up to a politician to be the shining example of nuclear family life. He has a farking job, just like the guy in the butcher shop and the women in the bank. Unless he is engaging in activity that DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS some policy that he is pushing or some law that he sponsored, STFU about their personal lives.

/end rant
 
2013-05-21 05:24:38 PM

Car_Ramrod: "Stuart Stevens was the chief strategist for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign."

Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?


That was my first thought, too, but then I realized that the right wing noise machine still devotes plenty of time to the "wisdom" of Karl Rove, Donny Rumsfeld, Michele Bachmann, Dick Cheney, Dick Morris, Sarah Palin and plenty of others whose combined streaks of being 180owrong on pretty much everything have been solidified for over a decade.

Tweet your dick as a Democrat?  You're out.  Everyone (rightly so, imho) thinks you're unreliable and exhibit extremely poor self control

WMDs?  Vaccines cause autism? ACORN? Death panels?  "the" math?  Romney wins OR, PA, OH, FL, VA, NV, NH and NM?  Unskewed?  Study it out?  Oh, you're welcome here in the GOP's talking room where being horribly, laughably and publicly wrong are not seen as any hinderance to your career fleecing the rubes.
 
2013-05-21 05:26:37 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Soup4Bonnie: Hey Weiner-

You were a firebrand and I loved you. That was before your dick-tweeting. You showed an incredible lack of character and I'll never believe anything you say again, so go away. And for christ's sake, start doing right by your wife, you schmuck.


What?? You mutherfarkers are a trip. By no means am I excusing the dick tweet, but there's ONE person who that should matter too...HIS WIFE. If she can forgive him for actions that fall short of infidelity, then why are you all so torn up about it? Smart people do dumb shiat sometimes. Stop with this judgemental bullshiat about small stuff. You're going to get some asshole elected who is going to do far worse because instead of worrying about policies you'll be checking the internet to make sure the other guy doesn't have any dick pics. This is the bullshiat that got GWB elected the first time. Its not up to a politician to be the shining example of nuclear family life. He has a farking job, just like the guy in the butcher shop and the women in the bank. Unless he is engaging in activity that DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS some policy that he is pushing or some law that he sponsored, STFU about their personal lives.

/end rant


I dunno. A lot of people became computer image forensic experts overnight only to have their expertise discredited once he was done lying. Those people are probably pretty pissed.
 
2013-05-21 05:31:34 PM

ox45tallboy: That, and the fact that it's always the weatherman that gets the sweet, sweet intern lovin'.


hindsightsports.com
 
2013-05-21 05:33:48 PM
Is the Anthony Weiner thing really a sex scandal?  Both show a stunning lack of judgement...

I think Sanford's election is more about the GOP's pathological need to do whatever they imagine makes the libruls all mad.
 
2013-05-21 05:35:40 PM
Meh, let Weiner run just for the lolz.

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

A slimy horn-dog politician named Weiner who looks like Quagmire?  Comedy gold.
 
2013-05-21 06:00:31 PM

HortusMatris: Meh, let Weiner run just for the lolz.

[wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 335x188]

A slimy horn-dog politician named Weiner who looks like Quagmire?  Comedy gold.


img.washingtonpost.comwww.nypost.com

The heat is on!  the heat is oh-on!
 
2013-05-21 06:03:34 PM

Car_Ramrod: EvilEgg: robsul82: Here's a guy who regularly condescended to every member of Congress but whose intellectual talents were such that he originally aspired to be a weatherman.

[nesncom.files.wordpress.com image 476x355]

/I don't know, maybe reading score results is loftier than reading the weather

I think a meteorologist is a real sciency type guy.  So it's not as bad a talking head.

Tom Skilling will beat the crap out of anyone talking smack about weathermen. His Twitter and Facebook feeds are chock full of amazingness and encyclopedic weather knowledge.

[tapchicago.com image 718x469]


Agreed, but he is an absolute minority in his profession.
 
2013-05-21 06:05:37 PM

thamike: HortusMatris: Meh, let Weiner run just for the lolz.

[wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 335x188]

A slimy horn-dog politician named Weiner who looks like Quagmire?  Comedy gold.

[img.washingtonpost.com image 228x341][www.nypost.com image 300x300]

The heat is on!  the heat is oh-on!


Egads!

Have they ever been seen in the same room together?
 
2013-05-21 06:16:04 PM
It's been said several times before, but I'll say it again.

Sanford doesn't deserve to hold office not because he had an affair. That happens, and I'd like to think that a person can be separately judged by their personal and professional foibles. The problem is that the man lied about his location to his staff, and his security detail.  While governor of the state, he then disappeared off the grid for days, emerging only when the media caught wind. I can tolerate adulterers in office if they're good at their jobs. But this is an unforgivable offence and a dangerous dereliction of duty.
 
2013-05-21 06:20:26 PM
Hmmm, if the choice is between a guy who had an affair and lied about it (no not Clinton, the other guy), and a pervy Twitter weirdo who tried to deflect the press by alleging Breitbart must have hacked his account, I know who I'd pick.
 
2013-05-21 06:20:32 PM

Nebulious: It's been said several times before, but I'll say it again.

Sanford doesn't deserve to hold office not because he had an affair. That happens, and I'd like to think that a person can be separately judged by their personal and professional foibles. The problem is that the man lied about his location to his staff, and his security detail.  While governor of the state, he then disappeared off the grid for days, emerging only when the media caught wind. I can tolerate adulterers in office if they're good at their jobs. But this is an unforgivable offence and a dangerous dereliction of duty.


That, and:

1) He stole from the public till to make that trip.  I don't want to hear that he paid the money back.  If the only penalty for theft is you have to return the loot, there is no incentive not to steal.

2) The Publicans are the ones herping and derping about "family values".  Clearly "family values" has nothing to do with marital fidelity and everything to do with them Feelthy Queers.
 
2013-05-21 06:23:20 PM
So when are we getting the Wiener for Mayor yard sign/bumper sticker Photoshop contest?
 
2013-05-21 06:35:37 PM

Lollipop165: Anthony Weiner has been pretty popular in NYC for a few years. When the "scandal" broke it was more "HAHA his penis!" than any real outrage.


As it really should have been. He didn't actually hurt anyone (other than his wife - that must have sucked for her), he didn't cost taxpayers money.  Really, he just embarrassed himself.

The worst part of it, to me, was "this guy is someone who I think SHOULD be in politics and he gave up too easily."  I don't live in NYC anymore, but I'd like to see him win. That said, I think the job is Christine Quinn's, unless she's caught with a live boy or a dead girl.
 
2013-05-21 06:47:28 PM
The point is how much Weiner lied to the press.
As the administration is now learning lying to the press is not a good idea.
 
2013-05-21 07:35:34 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: The point is how much Weiner lied to the press.
As the administration is now learning lying to the press is not a good idea.


Hey why don't you ask Jonathan Karl about how getting a scoop on a forged memo is not a good idea?
 
2013-05-21 08:09:46 PM
Mitt Romney's Chief Strategist should never admit any of that ever again.
 
2013-05-21 08:12:34 PM

BMFPitt: So when are we getting the Wiener for Mayor yard sign/bumper sticker Photoshop contest?


There was a race where  Wiener and Hickey were running together.  I really wish I still had one of the signs, which hung in my old kitchen for some time.  Mostly because I have the maturity of a 12-year-old boy.
 
2013-05-21 08:15:37 PM

Car_Ramrod: "Stuart Stevens was the chief strategist for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign."
Who in their right mind would brag about something like that?


But he did ski 100 miles across the North Pole...which I guess means.....something?

i2.crtcdn1.net
 
2013-05-21 09:00:19 PM

fusillade762: Philip Francis Queeg: Wait, the Romney campaign had a strategy?

It was to not be black.


And by the way, he was AMAZING at that.
 
2013-05-21 11:32:47 PM
tenpoundsofcheese (farkied: It ain't cheese): The point is how much Weiner lied to the press.
As the administration is now learning lying to the press is not a good idea.


Except of course when the press *wants* to be lied to.  See:  bush, george w.

/IOKIYAR
 
2013-05-22 12:29:17 AM

serpent_sky: That said, I think the job is Christine Quinn's, unless she's caught with a live boy or a dead girl.


If it's a she, wouldn't it be live girl or dead boy?
 
2013-05-22 01:27:13 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Soup4Bonnie: Hey Weiner-

You were a firebrand and I loved you. That was before your dick-tweeting. You showed an incredible lack of character and I'll never believe anything you say again, so go away. And for christ's sake, start doing right by your wife, you schmuck.


What?? You mutherfarkers are a trip. By no means am I excusing the dick tweet, but there's ONE person who that should matter too...HIS WIFE. If she can forgive him for actions that fall short of infidelity, then why are you all so torn up about it? Smart people do dumb shiat sometimes. Stop with this judgemental bullshiat about small stuff. You're going to get some asshole elected who is going to do far worse because instead of worrying about policies you'll be checking the internet to make sure the other guy doesn't have any dick pics. This is the bullshiat that got GWB elected the first time. Its not up to a politician to be the shining example of nuclear family life. He has a farking job, just like the guy in the butcher shop and the women in the bank. Unless he is engaging in activity that DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS some policy that he is pushing or some law that he sponsored, STFU about their personal lives.

/end rant

 
2013-05-22 05:22:53 AM
Romney, the best flip-flopper of them all.  One of his aides must have told him that badmouthing Wiener would be a good career move.

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point he was at a public event (speech, for example) and just flat-out said, "Now, what is it you want me to say so you'll like me more and vote for me?  I'll say it."
 
2013-05-22 06:11:58 AM
I don't get it, Wiener probably deserved what he received, but he was not in an actual relationship with other women, and didn't forsake his job duties.

I could even forgive what's his name for screwing hookers, because he didn't involve girlfriends that would cause trouble.  It was efficient penis management.

Unlike Sanford who didn't keep things in control and fell in love with the girlfriend.  Then abandon his job for a few weeks.  The screwing around thing could be forgivable....going on leave isn't.

/She is hot.
 
2013-05-22 06:57:41 AM

Alphax: serpent_sky: That said, I think the job is Christine Quinn's, unless she's caught with a live boy or a dead girl.

If it's a she, wouldn't it be live girl or dead boy?


Surely being caught with a live girl would just increase her ratings?
 
2013-05-22 07:00:19 AM

xria: Alphax: serpent_sky: That said, I think the job is Christine Quinn's, unless she's caught with a live boy or a dead girl.

If it's a she, wouldn't it be live girl or dead boy?

Surely being caught with a live girl would just increase her ratings?


Point taken.
 
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