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(Salon)   Sen. Jim Inhofe: "The tornado aid which my state desperately needs is completely different than the hurricane aid in NJ and NY I voted against, because greedy Northeasterners and pork and futhermore comma"   (salon.com) divider line 299
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2013-05-21 03:37:50 PM
i haven't been paying attention to the news - am i correct to understand that a particularly fat dog landed on oklahoma?
 
2013-05-21 03:38:06 PM
It woudl be awesome if a Democratic senator put a hold on the Oklahoma tornado relief bill with the stipulation that if Inhofe get on his knees in front of the senate and beg forgiveness for being a complete asshole to the people in the Northeast that the bill would be allowed to pass.

/Infhofe is my senator.
//He's a complete embarrassment to the state.
 
2013-05-21 03:38:33 PM
"My daughter shouldn't have her life ruined by one mistake...she's not like one of these dirty sluts."
 
2013-05-21 03:38:45 PM
Because god hates the bible belt and its shiatty bible thumping residents and keeps trying to destroy it every farking year.
 
2013-05-21 03:39:17 PM

heap: i haven't been paying attention to the news - am i correct to understand that a particularly fat dog landed on oklahoma?


Mr. Herring, please report to thread 7760214. Your services are required.
 
2013-05-21 03:39:32 PM

s2s2s2: So what of this Virgin Islands pork he mentioned?
Also, who put all the pork in Sandy*?

*relief bill, that is.


/wiiiiiiink


The Virgin Islands pork was in an initial version but not in the final legislation. The final legislation did include paying for some damages to Smithsonian museums in DC.
 
2013-05-21 03:40:03 PM

MrSteve007: One would think that in an area of the country dubbed "Tornado Alley" - that you guys would at least build elementary schools with basements or some form of a shelter, other than an interior hallway.

While folks lobby for gun legislation in this country in an attempt to prevent another Sandyhook - why aren't folks demanding a basic change to the way we design and build public schools - to prevent another Plaza Towers?



/oh, that's right - demanding better building codes for public structures isn't nearly as sexy as "assault" weapons.


Because the federal government actually has the power to regulate firearm sales under the Commerce Clause, but has zero power to regulate local or state building codes?

Stupid meatsack hair creatures invent federalism and then wholly fail to apply it, except when it comes to taking slaves or forcing your females to breed.
 
2013-05-21 03:40:19 PM

steverockson: It woudl be awesome if a Democratic senator put a hold on the Oklahoma tornado relief bill with the stipulation that if Inhofe get on his knees in front of the senate and beg forgiveness for being a complete asshole to the people in the Northeast that the bill would be allowed to pass.

/Infhofe is my senator.
//He's a complete embarrassment to the state.


That's saying something, considering who the other one is.
 
2013-05-21 03:40:30 PM

sheep snorter: Because god hates the bible belt and its shiatty bible thumping residents and keeps trying to destroy it every farking year.


God and Santa Claus are doing a fundraiser in heaven right now to get them thumpers new trailers.  You... just shut up, libby meanie.
 
2013-05-21 03:40:38 PM

flondrix: Muta: I sooooo hope someone puts does one of those anonymous filibusters on the bill just for the lolz.

They can filibuster anonymously?


The world's finest deliberative body!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_hold
 
2013-05-21 03:41:26 PM
"Everybody was getting in and exploiting the tragedy that took place. That won't happen in Oklahoma."

The Oklahoma aid bill will contain exactly as much pork as congress chooses to put in it, just like any other bill.
 
2013-05-21 03:42:38 PM

coeyagi: sheep snorter: Because god hates the bible belt and its shiatty bible thumping residents and keeps trying to destroy it every farking year.

God and Santa Claus are doing a fundraiser in heaven right now to get them thumpers new trailers.  You... just shut up, libby meanie.


Whaaat! Santa is dead?  But who will bring us presents this christmas? Damn it! I'll have to start my shoplifting early to make sure the kids don't find out Santa is freaking dead.
 
2013-05-21 03:43:06 PM
I don't understand why federal money is needed for this at all. Surely the public buildings had insurance, so they will be rebuilt. If your house was destroyed and you don't have insurance you're an idiot with no foresight. Power lines are the responsibility of the power company. How much damage to public infrastructure can the tornado possibly have caused? They're destructive but it's very localized.

Not only should they not request federal money, they shouldn't receive it. I feel terrible for those who lost people, but it's not a federal emergency.
 
2013-05-21 03:43:54 PM

Serious Black: MrSteve007: One would think that in an area of the country dubbed "Tornado Alley" - that you guys would at least build elementary schools with basements or some form of a shelter, other than an interior hallway.

While folks lobby for gun legislation in this country in an attempt to prevent another Sandyhook - why aren't folks demanding a basic change to the way we design and build public schools - to prevent another Plaza Towers?

[i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

/oh, that's right - demanding better building codes for public structures isn't nearly as sexy as "assault" weapons.

There are several areas in the country where the ground will not allow people to build basements because it is too unstable. In particular, Oklahoma soil is mostly clay, which absorbs water and can quickly swell in size.


This article explains the problems with getting people underground in Oklahoma better than I could in two lines.
 
2013-05-21 03:44:24 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything


yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.
 
2013-05-21 03:44:24 PM
QUESTION: Are the Republicans packing the Oklahoma aid bill (that doesn't exist yet) with $60 billion of pork that has nothing to do with emergency disaster relief?
 
2013-05-21 03:44:37 PM

cbathrob: steverockson: It woudl be awesome if a Democratic senator put a hold on the Oklahoma tornado relief bill with the stipulation that if Inhofe get on his knees in front of the senate and beg forgiveness for being a complete asshole to the people in the Northeast that the bill would be allowed to pass.

/Infhofe is my senator.
//He's a complete embarrassment to the state.

That's saying something, considering who the other one is.


Don't get me wrong, they're both huge embarrassments (and I know Coburn personally, wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire), but Inhofe is probably the more dangerous of the two.
 
2013-05-21 03:45:04 PM
If I ever acquire the ability to raise people from the dead, I'm going to bring Bruce Lee back to life, take him to Senator's Inhofe's house and tell him: "Jim Inhofe is the man who killed your master!"
 
2013-05-21 03:45:36 PM

Serious Black: There are several areas in the country where the ground will not allow people to build basements because it is too unstable. In particular, Oklahoma soil is mostly clay, which absorbs water and can quickly swell in size.


Thank you for this.  I was wondering why they didn't make use of the school basement, on the assumption that all schools had basements.
 
2013-05-21 03:45:51 PM
Red state?  No relief for you.  Not yours.
 
2013-05-21 03:46:04 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I don't understand why federal money is needed for this at all. Surely the public buildings had insurance, so they will be rebuilt. If your house was destroyed and you don't have insurance you're an idiot with no foresight. Power lines are the responsibility of the power company. How much damage to public infrastructure can the tornado possibly have caused? They're destructive but it's very localized.

Not only should they not request federal money, they shouldn't receive it. I feel terrible for those who lost people, but it's not a federal emergency.


1. Insurance often doesn't cover acts of God.

2. Even if it does, that's a lot of paperwork and litigation to go through, because insurance companies are that evil.

3. Infrastructure can handle small catastrophes, but when everything takes one in the face at once, it creates a cascading collapse that will require a massive effort to put right.

4. The federal government can speed this along by giving a massive influx of cash and labor power, drastically cutting recovery time and making sure the people don't suffer needlessly.
 
2013-05-21 03:46:33 PM

SunsetLament: QUESTION: Are the Republicans packing the Oklahoma aid bill (that doesn't exist yet) with $60 billion of pork that has nothing to do with emergency disaster relief?


No, and they didn't for the Sandy relief bill.
 
2013-05-21 03:47:01 PM

sheep snorter: coeyagi: sheep snorter: Because god hates the bible belt and its shiatty bible thumping residents and keeps trying to destroy it every farking year.

God and Santa Claus are doing a fundraiser in heaven right now to get them thumpers new trailers.  You... just shut up, libby meanie.

Whaaat! Santa is dead?  But who will bring us presents this christmas? Damn it! I'll have to start my shoplifting early to make sure the kids don't find out Santa is freaking dead.


Santa Claus is an interdimensional being that can travel from the Earthly plane to the Heavenly one, so please, don't get the hussies at Fox News in a fuss about this: Santa LIVES!
 
2013-05-21 03:48:36 PM

s2s2s2: So what of this Virgin Islands pork he mentioned?


Are these so-called Virgin Islands anywhere near Whore Island?
 
2013-05-21 03:48:48 PM

skullkrusher: A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything

yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.


Does anyone get the distinct impression that someone switched the Decaf and Regular at SK's office today?
 
2013-05-21 03:48:59 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I don't understand why federal money is needed for this at all. Surely the public buildings had insurance, so they will be rebuilt. If your house was destroyed and you don't have insurance you're an idiot with no foresight. Power lines are the responsibility of the power company. How much damage to public infrastructure can the tornado possibly have caused? They're destructive but it's very localized.

Not only should they not request federal money, they shouldn't receive it. I feel terrible for those who lost people, but it's not a federal emergency.


Some insurance does not cover "Act of God".
 
2013-05-21 03:49:12 PM

pacified: Let the free market deal with this.

Ronald Reagan told us long ago that the most dangerous 9 words in English are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".

Private corporations and capitalists will help people in OK better than FEMA.


Yes, let's base our country around the gibberish spouted by a demented old traitor, and put our citizens' lives in the hands of organizations that care only about profit. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
 
2013-05-21 03:49:46 PM

coeyagi: skullkrusher: A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything

yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.

Does anyone get the distinct impression that someone switched the Decaf and Regular at SK's office today?


nah, just got a kickass job offer today and I'm pumped and ready to fight. HUZZAH!

oh, and Omen deserves it
 
2013-05-21 03:50:57 PM

skullkrusher: A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything

yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.


Just because *you* say this, does not make it true.
 
2013-05-21 03:51:08 PM
"I would never stuff a relief bill for my own state with pork the way I stuff relief bills for other states with pork!  That would be irresponsible!"
 
2013-05-21 03:51:27 PM

Dog Welder: s2s2s2: So what of this Virgin Islands pork he mentioned?

Are these so-called Virgin Islands anywhere near Whore Island?


Whore Island?  What do they got there?

/Apes, but they're not so big.
 
2013-05-21 03:51:36 PM
ok stop you are making me blush


i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-21 03:52:29 PM
The political reality is they have to be hypocritical assholes. We Oklahoman's demand both ideological purity and government money. Trust me, us liberals are simply reviled here. I mean loathed to an unhealthy and unbalanced degree in the state. But if you peak under the conservative dress, you don't have to stare to long to see that the state loves a liberal government spending money and dictating personal lives. And since the entire state seems to suffer from texas envy, we try to beat them at conservatism. Never mind the fact that we suckle the sweet government teet with the best of them. We just want to pretend we want what we say is true, even if we would screech if any actual budget balancing happened. Because prosperity Jesus, in his infinite financial wisdom, said so. mammon.
 
2013-05-21 03:53:13 PM

Zeppelininthesky: skullkrusher: A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything

yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.

Just because *you* say this, does not make it true.


I would tend to agree. I am sure some facts and figures could be summoned to lend credence to one side of the argument or the other, but I sure as hell am not going to be bothered to track that sh*t.
 
2013-05-21 03:54:14 PM
There may be stupider people in Congress, but no one out-sluts Jim Inhofe.
 
2013-05-21 03:54:58 PM

skullkrusher: coeyagi: skullkrusher: A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything

yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.

Does anyone get the distinct impression that someone switched the Decaf and Regular at SK's office today?

nah, just got a kickass job offer today and I'm pumped and ready to fight. HUZZAH!

oh, and Omen deserves it


Are you admitting to Personal attacks/namecalling ?
 
2013-05-21 03:55:34 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Power lines are the responsibility of the power company.


And if the power company doesn't have the money, what then?  Oklahoma goes back to the 19th century?
 
2013-05-21 03:57:06 PM
I already did the "hey guys, remember the people in Oklahoma are people, too, with families, and they need help" thing this morning.

So, for what it's worth (nothing) you have my blessing to say terrible things about the people that voted for these men, and how they deserve whatever misery comes their way.
 
2013-05-21 03:57:45 PM

skullkrusher: A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything

yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.


This.  I'm only a few miles from Manasquan, NJ, where Sandy completely flattened dozens of houses--not counting 3 blocks' worth that burned to the ground because the firetrucks couldn't get past the farking Atlantic Ocean streaming across the road.  I've been in a number of charity events since then, since I miraculously had zero damage.  In fact, I was in a charity event for Sandy just this past Saturday that was the culmination of months of planning and marketing, coupled with aggressive recruiting.  They got an estimated 1600-1900 motorcycles, at least another 1,000 people who came to the barbecue afterwards, and raised...$27,695.

If for some reason you think that's better than what FEMA could do, you're seriously deluded.
 
2013-05-21 03:57:56 PM

flondrix: Oklahoma goes back to the 19th century?


You mean more so?
 
2013-05-21 03:58:06 PM

Jackson Herring: ok stop you are making me blush


LIBS LIBS EVERYWHERE LOADIN MY BILL WITH PORK
 
2013-05-21 03:58:51 PM

MrSteve007: One would think that in an area of the country dubbed "Tornado Alley" - that you guys would at least build elementary schools with basements or some form of a shelter, other than an interior hallway.

While folks lobby for gun legislation in this country in an attempt to prevent another Sandyhook - why aren't folks demanding a basic change to the way we design and build public schools - to prevent another Plaza Towers?



/oh, that's right - demanding better building codes for public structures isn't nearly as sexy as "assault" weapons.


There's only so much that can be designed for. Where do we draw the line - 50 year storm, 300, 700, 1700 year storm? (That's generally "probability of no more than one happening in the next...").

FYI, structural design for tornado shelters is based on a wind speed of 250 mph (160 psf, not including additional factors like surface roughness, gust effect or directionality factors). That's above the speeds seen yesterday (I think). Non-shelter buildings would only be designed for 120 mph, though.

Plaza Towers, however, was built 57 years ago. New codes did it no good, and because we let our infrastructure rot after the 50s and 60s it was never replaced. (I'd bet it was designed to last no more than 50 years; most stuff on the West coast is, and most of it is in a seventh decade.)

We need to invest in infrastructure. This time, let's keep it up to date shall we?
 
2013-05-21 03:58:52 PM
Look kids, stop picking on Uncle Jim.

Let's do a breakdown of this:

1) The Northeast (blue states) receives less federal funding than red states and therefore has PROVEN that they can get by with less federal spending on them, even though they are soulless Godless heathens without the least bit of work ethic.

2) The Red States receive more federal funding than the Northeast, which shows that they are dependent on federal spending and continually need it, even though they are God-fearing angels who really are bootstrappy but it's Fartbotox keeping them down...somehow.

So, there you have it, Red States need it because they have shown themselves to be deficient in self-sufficiency, despite their entire schtick of loving small government.  The Aristocrats.
 
2013-05-21 03:59:20 PM
flondrix:

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Power lines are the responsibility of the power company.

And if the power company doesn't have the money, what then? Oklahoma goes back to the 19th century?


As someone who spent their time reading by hurricane lamp and shiatting in an outhouse after hurricane Agnes...

/ not *entirely* joking, but intended for humorous effect.
 
2013-05-21 03:59:22 PM

Serious Black: There are several areas in the country where the ground will not allow people to build basements because it is too unstable. In particular, Oklahoma soil is mostly clay, which absorbs water and can quickly swell in size.


Not to mention that public schools, like most government buildings, generally get screwed on land choice.  I'm from Indiana, the older schools built before the 70's all had basements the newer ones just don't.  Hell, there was a special education facility in my county that had a hill built over it just to protect it from tornadoes.  This was before the integration push and things have changed since then but last I remember the building, still with hill on top, was purely administrative. (I can't remember the name of the building at the moment elm something I think.)

I once heard my dad, who was an elementary school principal at the time explain funding like this:  If we put seat belts in every school bus we have it would cost X amount of dollars and save approximately one child per year (I was 8 or 9 at the time, don't know if he was talking about the state or the nation).  The cost is prohibitive, inefficient, and no taxpayer would agree to it, unless you're the parent of that one child.  Same goes for basements and tornado proofing and lord knows how many other things.  The town of Moore just won the sucks to be you lottery that every district plays.
 
2013-05-21 04:00:00 PM

Ayn Rand's Social Worker: [farm5.static.flickr.com image 500x375]


It's rare that I fav someone solely because of a username, so congrats on being the first to achieve that feat.  I lol'd at your pic, too
 
2013-05-21 04:00:22 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I already did the "hey guys, remember the people in Oklahoma are people, too, with families, and they need help" thing this morning.

So, for what it's worth (nothing) you have my blessing to say terrible things about the people that voted for these men, and how they deserve whatever misery comes their way.


No they don't deserve it sadly they got it anyway. Who knows maybe something good will come out of all of it at least that's what I tell myself so I can deal...
 
2013-05-21 04:01:30 PM
"There's always a lot of theater right before Christmas time... We shouldn't be talking about it right before Christmas" Link

We shouldn't be talking about this right before Memorial day.
 
2013-05-21 04:01:59 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I don't understand why federal money is needed for this at all. Surely the public buildings had insurance, so they will be rebuilt. If your house was destroyed and you don't have insurance you're an idiot with no foresight. Power lines are the responsibility of the power company. How much damage to public infrastructure can the tornado possibly have caused? They're destructive but it's very localized.

Not only should they not request federal money, they shouldn't receive it. I feel terrible for those who lost people, but it's not a federal emergency.


You have no concept of FEMA, or emergency aid. It's called the UNITED States of America. We are one country.

What do you think federal taxes and federal outlays are for? To line the pockets of Obama's buddies?
 
2013-05-21 04:03:25 PM

neversubmit: skullkrusher: coeyagi: skullkrusher: A Dark Evil Omen: Leftist activists operating through the existing Occupy and other networks > FEMA > Red Cross > Everyone and everything else in the known universe > Capitalist anything

yeah you keep saying that. No one believes you.
Occupy Sandy did not do more good than the Red Cross and FEMA. It is simply not true. The only people who WOULD accept that are idiots and liars.

This is not to diminish the incredible generosity of the people involved with Occupy Sandy and other grassroots efforts - they gave out of the goodness of their hearts and made a difference in the places they served. It is to diminish bald faced liars like you.

Stop making a farking ass of yourself.

Does anyone get the distinct impression that someone switched the Decaf and Regular at SK's office today?

nah, just got a kickass job offer today and I'm pumped and ready to fight. HUZZAH!

oh, and Omen deserves it

Are you admitting to Personal attacks/namecalling ?


nope. Can't win with arguments so gonna try to play the mod game?
 
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