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2013-05-21 08:29:32 AM  
I wonder if his son knows of his father's secret desire to marry him?
 
2013-05-21 08:31:10 AM  
Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!
 
2013-05-21 08:35:30 AM  
So has he already married his daughters?
 
2013-05-21 08:35:37 AM  

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Look up the term 'chav.'
 
2013-05-21 08:40:13 AM  
From the comments:

"no1 said anything about ppl being able to marry their own kids u numpty"

Numpty, my new favorite insult.
 
2013-05-21 08:49:39 AM  
the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

www.biography.com
 
2013-05-21 09:06:10 AM  
That's a mind-blowingly fallacious argument.
 
2013-05-21 09:11:41 AM  
To be fair he looks lost and confused.  Does he know what year it is?
i1.mirror.co.uk
 
2013-05-21 09:19:10 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: To be fair he looks lost and confused.  Does he know what year it is?
[i1.mirror.co.uk image 615x409]


Judging by his appearance, and his views on social policy, I'd say he probably thinks it's 1865.
 
2013-05-21 09:57:09 AM  
Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.
 
2013-05-21 10:17:31 AM  

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Same party, different name.
 
2013-05-21 10:18:06 AM  
I didn't personally teabag Hitler to death to see this disgusting filth, up with which I will not put!

/monster raving loony.
 
2013-05-21 10:18:18 AM  
So he's against gay marriage because people could use it to "avoid" inheritance taxes? You Brits are so quaint. Let me just pinch those rosy cheeks.
 
2013-05-21 10:23:34 AM  
I find it fascinating that the opponents of equality have no coherent arguments against marriage equality itself. All they have are objections to ridiculous straw men that they're afraid that marriage equality might somehow lead to -- including "undermining traditional marriage", whatever that means.
 
2013-05-21 10:23:44 AM  
The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?
 
2013-05-21 10:26:02 AM  

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Oh, plenty. We have a "Coalition for Marriage" which is basically the same as your "National Association for Marriage", a fundie Christian political party, creationist schools - the works. It's just that usually our mainstream politicians have the sense to stay the hell away from them, so they don't tend to get that much media attention. Usually.
 
2013-05-21 10:27:42 AM  
Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*
 
2013-05-21 10:29:06 AM  

lilbjorn: Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!

Same party, different name.


The Conservative Party is still far more left wing than the Republicans.
 
2013-05-21 10:30:25 AM  

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Yeah, the conservative party is about 50% "traditionalist" bigots/xenophobes and 50% big business friendly - but the big business wing has always dominated the donations coming in, and hence have tended to control the party. This is why the EU has always been a big bone of contention, as half the party sees it has helped build exports and business links to Europe and make it easier to get in talent from the EU when needed, and the other half "dirty foreigners coming here and taking our jerrrbs"
 
2013-05-21 10:30:48 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

derpy hyperbole
 
2013-05-21 10:32:24 AM  
"In a blistering, foul-mouthed rant, the former Cabinet minister said the Prime Minister had "f****d things up"

If I'm ever mentioned in a news piece, I'd like the pharse "in a blistering, foul-mouthed rant" to be part of it.


"Thanks for the weather, Pat.  And this from closer to home:  Local yob, Louisiana_Sitar_Club, made known his intent to donate half his annual salary to Habitat for Humanity in a blistering foul-mouthed rant."
 
2013-05-21 10:32:55 AM  

jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*


They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.
 
2013-05-21 10:33:30 AM  
Wait, that wasn't the right word...
 
2013-05-21 10:37:59 AM  

ImpendingCynic: The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?


The greatest danger, and one we Torries are altogether opposed to, is the further loosening of the public morals that have shielded the Kingdom through the darkest of days. The grand old Anglican values of propriety, prudence, honour, and duty stand threatened by this most pernicious creep of base turpitude. When Hitler was bombing London, and the bread lines stretched for miles during the lulls between the ghastly explosions, from Tooting High Street to Piccadilly we stood firm in the knowledge that no one of us cowering in the rubble would stoop to such strange and depraved behaviour as to ask his own son to marry him! By the Queen's honour, with what fantastical perversions will Labour bedevil us next, I ask?
 
2013-05-21 10:39:21 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*

They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.


static.diary.ru

This man likes the cut of your jib.
 
2013-05-21 10:40:10 AM  

ImpendingCynic: The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?


Yes. You are just reencoding discrimination into the law.
 
2013-05-21 10:41:56 AM  
Ooh, are we forced gay marrying British people? Because I call Emma Watson.

Because Emma Watson.
 
2013-05-21 10:42:40 AM  
lesbian queen

A great movie and band name
 
2013-05-21 10:45:08 AM  

Cheron: lesbian queen

A great movie and band name


Its taken, I'm sure.
 
2013-05-21 10:49:47 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.


frog14.myweb.uga.edu


Have at it.
 
2013-05-21 10:52:06 AM  

ImpendingCynic: The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?


Came here to say this but probably less coherently. Well done.

The comments prompt the inevitable question though. The actual argument raised was clearly rubbish, as ImpendingCynic has well demonstrated. This guy is both well educated and very experienced in politics. He's either senile or he's trying too hard to come up with something that sounds credible because his real fears about the legislation are undescribable.

My personal theory relates to the real winners and losers from marriage reform allowing gay marriage. The real winners are the relatively small number of gay folks wanting to marry. I have no reason to deny them this; I am a happily married heterosexual bloke in a marriage which, while raising a family of my wife's kids and grandkids, will never produce my own children and I'm cool with that. So the thought that marriage is all about procreating one's own genetics is meaningless in the context of my marriage. And yet no one objects to our situation. So I don't object to Adam and Steve celebrating their eternal love. And in response to the crap that the gays want to ruin marriage, marriage has long been ruined by heterosexual couples divorcing rather than take their vows seriously, so if your issue is that traditional marriage is under threat you've obviously never  heard of The Kardashians. The fact is no one loses if gays marry.

No, that's not true.

The big losers are the probably millions of gay folks who've done "the right thing" and married heterosexually anyway because they can't admit who they are, and, let's face it, many communities wouldn't let them do this even if they were strong enough to be themselves. So they live a lie.

Adam and Steve getting married on their front lawn over the road from my place would be fine. I'd try to get an invite if I could. Because it is no threat to me or my marriage in any way, and celebrating loving relationships while dancing to decent dance music is a fine way to spend an evening.

But if I was gay and living a lie, it would be a disaster.

Now I'm not saying that every opponent of gay marriage is living their own lie. But I am saying that a hell of a lot of them know the real statistics about marriages that might be under threat when gay marriage is legalised. It's threatening only to those who are living a lie or those who would be embarrassed by members of their own religious and social communities taking the opportunity to own up to themselves and their families, come out and leave their wives (/beards).

My personal suspicion is that the Catholic church, with its focus on confession, is all too aware that many of its pillars are men who crave cock or their wives who crave pussy. They can't handle the truth or they wouldn't fear it as they so do.

If you're pro-family yet oppose gay marriage and thus deny the many children of parents in same-sex relationships the delight of seeing their parents marry their life partner, you're not pro-family at all. You're pathetic.
 
2013-05-21 10:52:27 AM  

Deathfrogg: CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.

[frog14.myweb.uga.edu image 401x534]


Have at it.


\o/

I'm destroying Traditional Marriage™
 
2013-05-21 10:52:38 AM  
www.bbc.co.uk
 
2013-05-21 10:54:46 AM  

Cythraul: Judging by his appearance, and his views on social policy, I'd say he probably thinks it's 1865.


How dare  you besmirch the good name of Baron Tebbit by suggesting he's a lilly-livered modernising liberal!
 
2013-05-21 11:06:04 AM  
 the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

As an American, I hate to have to a Brit, but: the Act of Settlement contains a relentlessly deterministic mechanism for deciding who exactly is the next person in line to sit on the throne - if the correct conditions are met, a 35 stone, tattooed, bull-dyke she-beast with enough piercings to make metal detectors go off for miles around, dragging a virtual BDSM harem along behind her in chains would be the next monarch under current British law, and no one could do a goddamn thing about it.
 
2013-05-21 11:06:07 AM  
He told the Big Issue: "It would lift my worries about inheritance tax because maybe I'd be allowed to marry my son. Why not?
"Why shouldn't a mother marry her daughter? Why shouldn't two elderly sisters living together marry each other?"


But enough about David Cameron's secret sexual fantasies...
 
2013-05-21 11:08:05 AM  
i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 11:09:56 AM  
I wonder if he's harboring a secret desire to do so. That's so messed up even the Greeks didn't think of that one.
 
2013-05-21 11:10:15 AM  
i14.photobucket.com

/and possibly get divorced
 
2013-05-21 11:10:40 AM  
memecreator.eu
 
2013-05-21 11:10:52 AM  

doyner: That's a mind-blowingly fallacious argument.


What you did there. I see mit.
 
2013-05-21 11:11:02 AM  
i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 11:11:47 AM  
i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 11:13:46 AM  
media.twirlit.com
 
2013-05-21 11:14:13 AM  
If he's farking his son he should marry him.
 
2013-05-21 11:14:13 AM  

Cythraul: I wonder if his son knows of his father's not-so-secret desire to marry him?


FTFY. Seriously, he's aired his deepest, darkest desire in a national publication. I don't think Tebbit's homosexual tendencies can be denied any more. England has a new queen, and her name is Norma(n)!
 
2013-05-21 11:16:14 AM  
Does anyone recall the Stephen Colbert mocking of Jeremy Irons about this?  It was hysterical.  Funniest take I have ever seen done by him.
 
2013-05-21 11:16:49 AM  
"When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?"

Finally, someone thinks of the children.
 
2013-05-21 11:17:31 AM  
Sounds like gramps has been refusing to take his medication, again.

katherinegscott.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-21 11:17:46 AM  

Cythraul: CapeFearCadaver: jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*

They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.

[static.diary.ru image 704x368]

This man likes the cut of your jib.


/also likes the cut of your jib
 
2013-05-21 11:18:46 AM  

CrazyCracka420: Cythraul: CapeFearCadaver: jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*

They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.

[static.diary.ru image 704x368]

This man likes the cut of your jib.

/also likes the cut of your jib


SOB...lmftfm

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

/so that's what the Preview button is for...
 
2013-05-21 11:19:53 AM  

Gergesa: Does anyone recall the Stephen Colbert mocking of Jeremy Irons about this?  It was hysterical.  Funniest take I have ever seen done by him.


Aw, come on. Not fair to tease with no linky.
 
2013-05-21 11:25:45 AM  

namegoeshere: Gergesa: Does anyone recall the Stephen Colbert mocking of Jeremy Irons about this?  It was hysterical.  Funniest take I have ever seen done by him.

Aw, come on. Not fair to tease with no linky.


Oh alright here

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/425101/april- 04 -2013/koko---jeremy-irons-on-gay-marriage
 
2013-05-21 11:30:57 AM  
Don't laugh. That's what it could lead to

/slippery slope
 
2013-05-21 11:34:27 AM  

WorldCitizen: So has he already married his daughters?


Well, that is hunky dory according to the bible...

(v 30-37 has the good stuff)
 
2013-05-21 11:34:31 AM  

Gergesa: namegoeshere: Gergesa: Does anyone recall the Stephen Colbert mocking of Jeremy Irons about this?  It was hysterical.  Funniest take I have ever seen done by him.

Aw, come on. Not fair to tease with no linky.

Oh alright here

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/425101/april- 04 -2013/koko---jeremy-irons-on-gay-marriage


Ahh that was great, thanks.
 
2013-05-21 11:34:51 AM  
He won't HAVE to marry his son, but why shouldn't he be allowed to marry his son? Just because you think it's icky? Men are not allowed to marry their daughter or sister because their kids would have flippers. But there's not much danger of that in a homosexual marriage. So why shouldn't they be able to marry? What about old spinster sisters living together? If they could marry, it would help them out financially, with inheritance, with end-of-life decisions, etc.
 
2013-05-21 11:37:21 AM  
When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?

Yes.  Agin, current British law is completely unambiguous on this point
 
2013-05-21 11:38:39 AM  
Numpty?
 
2013-05-21 11:39:10 AM  

Gergesa: Does anyone recall the Stephen Colbert mocking of Jeremy Irons about this?  It was hysterical.  Funniest take I have ever seen done by him.


It is really depressing when a good actor comes out as a bigot - you would like to think inherently that the empathy needed to get in lots of other peoples shoes and bring their characters alive with enough integrity to make them believable would make it hard to be mindlessly and reflexively hateful and thoughtless on such topics, but I guess not.
 
2013-05-21 11:41:32 AM  
If gay marriage means a father being able to marry his own son, then he must've already married his daughter.....and if he denies he's married his daughter, then he's a liar, as well as a perv.

\the Fark universe thanks you for not thinking your "clever" argument all the way through.
 
2013-05-21 11:46:20 AM  

WoodenNickel: He won't HAVE to marry his son, but why shouldn't he be allowed to marry his son? Just because you think it's icky? Men are not allowed to marry their daughter or sister because their kids would have flippers. But there's not much danger of that in a homosexual marriage. So why shouldn't they be able to marry? What about old spinster sisters living together? If they could marry, it would help them out financially, with inheritance, with end-of-life decisions, etc.


The flipper thing isn't a justification either. Not unless we're gonna ban men's jeans and steralize people over 35.
 
2013-05-21 11:46:38 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.


CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.


I wanna marry a lighthouse keeper and keep him company.
 
2013-05-21 11:53:02 AM  
If stupid were gravity, this guy would be a Black Hole.
 
2013-05-21 11:53:26 AM  
What a Lesbian Queen (oh the horror) may look like

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 11:54:51 AM  
It's hilarious to watch the Conservatives implode over this. Their party appears to be comprised of a majority who are moderate,  reasonable people who favour small government and fiscal responsibility and a minority who are frothing at the mouth homophobes, bigots, euroskeptics and closet racists. The so called "swivel eyed loons" of the party.

So their electoral base has fractured and they're practically handing Labour the next government on a silver plate and wrapped in a bow.

The best thing the conservatives could do at this point is kick the loons out. Let them go to UKIP (basically a pasteurized version of the BNP - a racist and nationalistic), lick their wounds and come back a reformed and saner party.
 
2013-05-21 11:56:09 AM  

Cythraul: I wonder if his son knows of his father's secret desire to marry him?


That's what I was wondering.

I would love to see that interview.
 
2013-05-21 11:58:01 AM  
"It would lift my worries about inheritance tax because maybe I'd be allowed to marry my son. Why not?"

Incest law /= marriage law.  Why do you insist on conflating them?

"When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?"

Are you seriously talking about limiting a population's human rights based off of an unrealistic fear about the line of succession of a powerless figurehead that is maintained only for tradition's sake?

"Lord Tebbit warned that disunity over gay marriage and Europe would push voters in the direction of UKIP, who are just two points behind the Conservatives in a recent opinion poll."

Argument from consequence isn't your friend.

"It's like one of my colleagues said: we've got to make these same sex marriages available to all."

Yes.  Good job.
 
2013-05-21 11:59:09 AM  
Apparently it's not just in the US where rich old white men are farking things up for everyone.
 
2013-05-21 12:04:15 PM  

drxym: It's hilarious to watch the Conservatives implode over this. Their party appears to be comprised of a majority who are moderate, reasonable people who favour small government and fiscal responsibility and a minority who are frothing at the mouth homophobes, bigots, euroskeptics and closet racists. The so called "swivel eyed loons" of the party.


So the former being like US Democrats and the latter being like US Republicans...
 
2013-05-21 12:06:05 PM  
In a blistering, foul-mouthed rant, the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

How does he know the current Queen isn't gay? Can you imagine how awesome that would be if she came out?
 
2013-05-21 12:07:03 PM  

doubled99: Don't laugh. That's what it could lead to

/slippery slope


Even if it does, meh. Alberta's run by conservatives and has had the Adult Interdependent Relationships Act for over a decade and we haven't been smited (smote? smitten?) for it yet.
 
2013-05-21 12:10:28 PM  

Aussie_As: ImpendingCynic: The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?

Came here to say this but probably less coherently. Well done.

The comments prompt the inevitable question though. The actual argument raised was clearly rubbish, as ImpendingCynic has well demonstrated. This guy is both well educated and very experienced in politics. He's either senile or he's trying too hard to come up with something that sounds credible because his real fears about the legislation are undescribable.

My personal theory relates to the real winners and losers from marriage reform allowing gay marriage. The real winners are the relatively small number of gay folks wanting to marry. I have no reason to deny them this; I am a happily married heterosexual bloke in a marriage which, while raising a family of my wife's kids and grandkids, will never produce my own children and I'm cool with that. So the thought that marriage is all about procreating one's own genetics is meaningless in the context of my marriage. And yet no one objects to our situation. So I don't object to Adam and Steve celebrating their eternal love. And in response to the crap that the gays want to ruin marriage, marriage has long been ruined by heterosexual couples divorcing rather than take their vows seriously, so if your issue is that traditional marriage is under threat you've obviously never  heard of The Kardashians. The fact is no one loses if gays marry.

No, that's not true.

The big losers are the probably millions of gay folks who've done "the right thing" and married heterosexually anyway because ...


You Sir, plus many internets to you.

Much better than I could ever hope to express and poses an interesting argument. Its the perfect post.
 
2013-05-21 12:12:06 PM  
If you want to use the slippery slope argument to address polgamy, fine.  Arguing against any other point on the curve except the the one adjacent to where you are now is just plain derp.
Derpity derp at that.
 
2013-05-21 12:15:46 PM  

Gergesa: namegoeshere: Gergesa: Does anyone recall the Stephen Colbert mocking of Jeremy Irons about this?  It was hysterical.  Funniest take I have ever seen done by him.

Aw, come on. Not fair to tease with no linky.

Oh alright here

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/425101/april- 04 -2013/koko---jeremy-irons-on-gay-marriage


Thanks : )
 
2013-05-21 12:19:31 PM  
The nonsense about marrying his son and people avoiding inheritance taxes is just more of the usual desperation from a bigot.  And, if he's just trying to use hyperbole to make the point that changes to the law need to be carefully considered, then it's almost forgivable.

But the stuff about a "lesbian queen" just baffles me.  Of everything in the world that could possibly happen, THIS is one of the major scenarios that he's most concerned with?  Does he sit up at night writing royal family erotic fan fiction or something?

Besides being the rantings of an angry old man who wants to marry his son, the potential of a lesbian queen is not even a current issue.  Unless there's some sort of hilarious "King Ralph"-style accident, the first four people in line to the throne are heterosexual males, three of whom are already married and have children (or a baby on the way).  Of the next several people in line, there are a bunch of children, a few more married men, and a couple of old ladies.  The only real potential lesbian queens within the next couple of decades are Beatrice or Eugenie.  So, if Tebbit has done any actual thinking about this scenario of his, he's basically saying that he thinks Beatrice and/or Eugenie are gay.  They're both cute, so I can forgive him for thinking about this, but he's still a dirty old man.
 
2013-05-21 12:21:01 PM  

WorldCitizen: drxym: It's hilarious to watch the Conservatives implode over this. Their party appears to be comprised of a majority who are moderate, reasonable people who favour small government and fiscal responsibility and a minority who are frothing at the mouth homophobes, bigots, euroskeptics and closet racists. The so called "swivel eyed loons" of the party.

So the former being like US Democrats and the latter being like US Republicans...


My poor dad, a lifetime proud fiscal conservative/social mind-your-own-fecking-business officially changed his voter registration from Republican (as it's been since his 18th birthday) to Independent due to the Whackadoodles who have ruined his party.
 
2013-05-21 12:24:24 PM  

doyner: That's a mind-blowingly fallacious fellatious argument.


FTFY
 
2013-05-21 12:30:52 PM  

CrazyCracka420: [media.twirlit.com image 580x364]


I always imagined that the guy with the microphone sounded like a grown-up version of Froggy from the "Little Rascals."
 
2013-05-21 12:30:59 PM  

Perducci: But the stuff about a "lesbian queen" just baffles me. Of everything in the world that could possibly happen, THIS is one of the major scenarios that he's most concerned with? Does he sit up at night writing royal family erotic fan fiction or something?


Based on what I saw around the royal wedding, I assumed that the only two things British people do when they're alone is write royal family erotic fan fiction and masturbate to royal family erotic fan fiction.
 
2013-05-21 12:33:10 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Perducci: But the stuff about a "lesbian queen" just baffles me. Of everything in the world that could possibly happen, THIS is one of the major scenarios that he's most concerned with? Does he sit up at night writing royal family erotic fan fiction or something?

Based on what I saw around the royal wedding, I assumed that the only two things British people do when they're alone is write royal family erotic fan fiction and masturbate to royal family erotic fan fiction.



And with all the inbreeding that has gone in during the past few centuries within European aristocracy, I'm not surprised that Lors What's-his-name is talking about marrying a family member.
 
2013-05-21 12:34:22 PM  

CrazyCracka420: CrazyCracka420: Cythraul: CapeFearCadaver: jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*

They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.

[static.diary.ru image 704x368]

This man likes the cut of your jib.

/also likes the cut of your jib

SOB...lmftfm

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/so that's what the Preview button is for...


I took it to mean you had something you wanted to share with us given your personal endorsement.

Or, put another way...

arch.413chan.net
 
2013-05-21 12:35:09 PM  
which is totally cool and all...  I have a friend who is gay.
 
2013-05-21 12:38:39 PM  
Also...you guys are harshing on this dude, but in fairness, THIS is his son.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-21 12:44:04 PM  

phalamir: the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

As an American, I hate to have to a Brit, but: the Act of Settlement contains a relentlessly deterministic mechanism for deciding who exactly is the next person in line to sit on the throne - if the correct conditions are met, a 35 stone, tattooed, bull-dyke she-beast with enough piercings to make metal detectors go off for miles around, dragging a virtual BDSM harem along behind her in chains would be the next monarch under current British law, and no one could do a goddamn thing about it.


Am I the only one who thinks that would be farking epic?
 
2013-05-21 12:48:13 PM  

czetie: I find it fascinating that the opponents of equality have no coherent arguments against marriage equality itself.



Sure they do!  Why just the other day my co-worker explained to me how gay marriage is single handedly ruining the US economy!
 
2013-05-21 12:52:58 PM  
He told the Big Issue: "It would lift my worries about inheritance tax because maybe I'd be allowed to marry my son daughter. Why not?
"Why shouldn't a mother marry her daughter son? Why shouldn't two elderly sisters siblings living together marry each other?"


Clearly, we need to ban heterosexual marriage.
 
2013-05-21 01:04:14 PM  

wambu: "When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?"

Finally, someone thinks of the children.


Sounds to me that it's time to do away with monarchy entirely to remove even the slightest chance of any queens sitting on the throne.
 
2013-05-21 01:12:15 PM  

WorldCitizen: So has he already married his daughters?


He's not in to the opposite sex (NTTAWWT).
 
2013-05-21 01:39:08 PM  

seventypercent: Numpty?


Scottish word for idiot.
 
2013-05-21 01:47:54 PM  
If they currently have a problem with mothers marrying their sons and father marrying their daughters to avoid inheritance tax then he has a point.

So, is this currently a problem?

Otherwise he is just another hateful idiot.
 
2013-05-21 02:03:00 PM  

CrazyCracka420: Cythraul: CapeFearCadaver: jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*

They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.

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This man likes the cut of your jib.

/also likes the cut of your jib


never mind the damn jib its that gown that's divine
 
2013-05-21 02:13:20 PM  
If gay marriage is legalized, someone could marry Jesus against his will! Do we want the son of God to play catcher? Hells no!
 
2013-05-21 02:16:53 PM  
There already was a gay Queen.

/miss you Freddie
 
2013-05-21 02:18:55 PM  
Is his son hot?
 
2013-05-21 02:23:02 PM  

Farking Canuck: If they currently have a problem with mothers marrying their sons and father marrying their daughters to avoid inheritance tax then he has a point.

So, is this currently a problem?

Otherwise he is just another hateful idiot.


It wouldn't even be an issue if it was an issue, because they could just pass a law to cover that loophole.
 
2013-05-21 02:33:48 PM  

phalamir: When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?

Yes.  Agin, current British law is completely unambiguous on this point


Which will be lucky for Prince Harry if William and his family snuff it .
 
2013-05-21 02:34:49 PM  

offmymeds: Sounds like gramps has been refusing to take his medication, again.


Meh. We just use tasers for that now.
 
2013-05-21 02:37:57 PM  

drxym: It's hilarious to watch the Conservatives Republicans implode over this. Their party appears to be comprised of a majority who are moderate,  reasonable people who favour small government and fiscal responsibility and a minority who are frothing at the mouth homophobes, bigots, euroskeptics xenophobes and closet racists. The so called "swivel eyed loons" of the party.

So their electoral base has fractured and they're practically handing Labour the Democrats the next government on a silver plate and wrapped in a bow.

The best thing the conservatives Republicans could do at this point is kick the loons out. Let them go to UKIP the Tea Party (basically a pasteurized version of the

BNP farking Illinois Nazis - a racist and nationalistic), lick their wounds and come back a reformed and saner party.

Ain't gonna happen here, ain't gonna happen in the US either. As with Labour in the 80's, most of the Conservative party have decided that they'll only win by appealing to the extremes (ie the people who'll never vote for the other side) and ignoring the middle (who actually decide elections).
 
2013-05-21 02:45:14 PM  

orbister: drxym: It's hilarious to watch the Conservatives Republicans implode over this. Their party appears to be comprised of a majority who are moderate,  reasonable people who favour small government and fiscal responsibility and a minority who are frothing at the mouth homophobes, bigots, euroskeptics xenophobes and closet racists. The so called "swivel eyed loons" of the party.

So their electoral base has fractured and they're practically handing Labour the Democrats the next government on a silver plate and wrapped in a bow.

The best thing the conservatives  Republicans could do at this point is kick the loons out. Let them go to UKIPthe Tea Party (basically a pasteurized version of theBNP farking Illinois Nazis - a racist and nationalistic), lick their wounds and come back a reformed and saner party.

Ain't gonna happen here, ain't gonna happen in the US either. As with Labour in the 80's, most of the Conservative party have decided that they'll only win by appealing to the extremes (ie the people who'll never vote for the other side) and ignoring the middle (who actually decide elections).


Labour did kick the extremists out in the 80s. There comes a point where the sane(ish) members of a party can no longer deny the damage caused by the lunatic fringe.
 
2013-05-21 03:08:50 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: To be fair he looks lost and confused.  Does he know what year it is?

i1.mirror.co.uk

"Where's Bobby? I want some fried chicken! The woman who comes in to clean steals from me! Who the hell are you people? Get out of my house!"
 
2013-05-21 04:26:43 PM  
It's the poor man's Donald Rumsfield.
 
2013-05-21 05:44:18 PM  

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Where do you think your morons ancestors came from? Mostly Europe.
 
2013-05-21 06:38:39 PM  

drxym: It's hilarious to watch the Conservatives implode over this. Their party appears to be comprised of a majority who are moderate,  reasonable people who favour small government and fiscal responsibility and a minority who are frothing at the mouth homophobes, bigots, euroskeptics and closet racists. The so called "swivel eyed loons" of the party.

So their electoral base has fractured and they're practically handing Labour the next government on a silver plate and wrapped in a bow.

The best thing the conservatives could do at this point is kick the loons out. Let them go to UKIP (basically a pasteurized version of the BNP - a racist and nationalistic), lick their wounds and come back a reformed and saner party.


The only problem with that plan is the grass roots Conservative party, the membership (rather than the Parliamentary Conservative party, those actually elected to Westminster) seem to tend more to the swivel-eyed-loon side of things.

Never underestimate the Blue Rinse Bridage!
 
2013-05-21 06:39:36 PM  

Amy Winehouse's Ghost: It's the poor man's Donald Rumsfield.


I'm not sure he likes poor people very much.
 
2013-05-21 06:43:23 PM  
That's not how it works at all.  He will, however, be required to marry Rick Santorum's dog.
 
2013-05-21 07:02:21 PM  

I Ate Shergar: Labour did kick the extremists out in the 80s. There comes a point where the sane(ish) members of a party can no longer deny the damage caused by the lunatic fringe.


After being trounced in the 1983 election (Gerald Kaufman described his party's manifesto as "the longest suicide note in history") they did indeed start dealing with the nutters, but Mrs T still managed to thrash them again, and while John major's win was a bit of a surprise in 92, it wasn't until Tony Blair made the entire party his biatches with the Clause 4 vote that the lunatic fringe were fully quashed.

Crazies like Tony Benn still think that more extremist policies are needed to win, despite the evidence of every election, ever, anywhere.
 
2013-05-21 07:03:10 PM  

I Ate Shergar: Labour did kick the extremists out in the 80s. There comes a point where the sane(ish) members of a party can no longer deny the damage caused by the lunatic fringe.


Exactly. The Labour party of the 70s, 80s and 90s were basically socialists in the proper sense of the word and the union's biatches. Unsurprisingly they were completely toxic to voters who were fed up of industrial strife and were happy for the conservatives to reform the country in ways which were long overdue. Labour had to throw out these dinosaurs to stand a chance of being relected.

I see the same implosion happening in the Conservatives at the moment. They're going to lose the next election and probably drag the Liberals down with them even though they don't deserve it. The result will be a Labour landslide and a Conservative party wondering what the heck happened. The answer is of course is they allowed their lunatic fringe to hijack the agenda. They have to reform these people or throw them out. Let UKIP have them. UKIP is a flash in the pan, holds policies deeply repugnant to mainstream politics and will likely wither away when they don't have the Right wing press on their side or the government to snipe at.
 
2013-05-21 07:45:12 PM  
What kind of a world do we live in where a gay man is forbidden from marrying his gay son?  If that's how this "equal rights" shiat is going to workout, then I want none of it.  All or nothing, I say.  If you're just going to put arbitrary restrictions on marriage, then what good is it?  I mean, fine, if my son is 12, then I get it.  If my son is a 2 year old iguana, fine.  But if my iguana son is an adult, then I should be allowed to legally gay marry my adult iguana son.  PERIOD.  Screw you old man.  Go suck some spotted dick.  You know you want to.  Suck it.  Like an iguana cloaca.
 
2013-05-21 08:25:12 PM  

drxym: The result will be a Labour landslide and a Conservative party wondering what the heck happened.


I'm not really seeing Milliband as a 'landslide' sort of leader. I know people seem to hate the coalition but...


drxym: The answer is of course is they allowed their lunatic fringe to hijack the agenda.


I'm not really sure that's true either. The lunatic fringe are making a lot of noise at the moment, certainly, but the agenda seems to be to get this law through (and it's about time IMHO).
I'm not old enough to remember the 70s, but I don't remember there being a lefty-socialist-loon spinoff party like UKIP cropping up.

I get the feeling we're in new territory here. Farage seems to be pulling off his man of the people act for now and it's really hard to see exactly WTF is going to happen. I bet we end up with another coalition at the next election. I wouldn't like to put money on who exactly it would be made up of though.
 
2013-05-21 11:28:38 PM  

ginandbacon: From the comments:

"no1 said anything about ppl being able to marry their own kids u numpty"

Numpty, my new favorite insult.


www.bitcandy.com
What a numpty might look like.
 
2013-05-22 12:41:59 AM  

PsiChick: phalamir: the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

As an American, I hate to have to a Brit, but: the Act of Settlement contains a relentlessly deterministic mechanism for deciding who exactly is the next person in line to sit on the throne - if the correct conditions are met, a 35 stone, tattooed, bull-dyke she-beast with enough piercings to make metal detectors go off for miles around, dragging a virtual BDSM harem along behind her in chains would be the next monarch under current British law, and no one could do a goddamn thing about it.

Am I the only one who thinks that would be farking epic?


Nope.
 
2013-05-22 12:56:14 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.


I don't care who you're in love with, you can't marry a snapping turtle!
 
2013-05-22 02:04:37 AM  

Gordon Bennett: seventypercent: Numpty?

Scottish word for idiot.


Pronounced with an umpty.
 
2013-05-22 04:44:38 AM  

Gothnet: I'm not really seeing Milliband as a 'landslide' sort of leader. I know people seem to hate the coalition but...


Milliband is without doubt one of the creepiest leaders I've ever seen. He doesn't appear to be looking at people but through them as if they're meaningless to him and perhaps they are.

But people won't be voting for him, they'll be voting against the Conservatives. And in a Weeners the post system the fact that the Conservative's voting base is undermined by UKIP means Labour will win by a landslide. I can't see the Conservatives recovering substantially from their doldrums whether they call a snap election with a bunch of rash promises about a EU referendum or whether they cling on. I reckon their best hope when they are swept from power is to purge their ranks of the loons and start afresh like Labour did.
 
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