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(Mirror.co.uk)   Confused former UK Cabinet minister thinks gay marriage will force him to marry his son   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 115
    More: Dumbass, Norman Tebbit, UKIP, European Election, Ed Miliband, Same-sex marriage legislation  
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2013-05-21 08:29:32 AM
I wonder if his son knows of his father's secret desire to marry him?
 
2013-05-21 08:31:10 AM
Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!
 
2013-05-21 08:35:30 AM
So has he already married his daughters?
 
2013-05-21 08:35:37 AM

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Look up the term 'chav.'
 
2013-05-21 08:40:13 AM
From the comments:

"no1 said anything about ppl being able to marry their own kids u numpty"

Numpty, my new favorite insult.
 
2013-05-21 08:49:39 AM
the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

www.biography.com
 
2013-05-21 09:06:10 AM
That's a mind-blowingly fallacious argument.
 
2013-05-21 09:11:41 AM
To be fair he looks lost and confused.  Does he know what year it is?
i1.mirror.co.uk
 
2013-05-21 09:19:10 AM

Marcus Aurelius: To be fair he looks lost and confused.  Does he know what year it is?
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Judging by his appearance, and his views on social policy, I'd say he probably thinks it's 1865.
 
2013-05-21 09:57:09 AM
Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.
 
2013-05-21 10:17:31 AM

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Same party, different name.
 
2013-05-21 10:18:06 AM
I didn't personally teabag Hitler to death to see this disgusting filth, up with which I will not put!

/monster raving loony.
 
2013-05-21 10:18:18 AM
So he's against gay marriage because people could use it to "avoid" inheritance taxes? You Brits are so quaint. Let me just pinch those rosy cheeks.
 
2013-05-21 10:23:34 AM
I find it fascinating that the opponents of equality have no coherent arguments against marriage equality itself. All they have are objections to ridiculous straw men that they're afraid that marriage equality might somehow lead to -- including "undermining traditional marriage", whatever that means.
 
2013-05-21 10:23:44 AM
The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?
 
2013-05-21 10:26:02 AM

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Oh, plenty. We have a "Coalition for Marriage" which is basically the same as your "National Association for Marriage", a fundie Christian political party, creationist schools - the works. It's just that usually our mainstream politicians have the sense to stay the hell away from them, so they don't tend to get that much media attention. Usually.
 
2013-05-21 10:27:42 AM
Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*
 
2013-05-21 10:29:06 AM

lilbjorn: Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!

Same party, different name.


The Conservative Party is still far more left wing than the Republicans.
 
2013-05-21 10:30:25 AM

Aarontology: Check it out. They have morons across the pond too!


Yeah, the conservative party is about 50% "traditionalist" bigots/xenophobes and 50% big business friendly - but the big business wing has always dominated the donations coming in, and hence have tended to control the party. This is why the EU has always been a big bone of contention, as half the party sees it has helped build exports and business links to Europe and make it easier to get in talent from the EU when needed, and the other half "dirty foreigners coming here and taking our jerrrbs"
 
2013-05-21 10:30:48 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com

derpy hyperbole
 
2013-05-21 10:32:24 AM
"In a blistering, foul-mouthed rant, the former Cabinet minister said the Prime Minister had "f****d things up"

If I'm ever mentioned in a news piece, I'd like the pharse "in a blistering, foul-mouthed rant" to be part of it.


"Thanks for the weather, Pat.  And this from closer to home:  Local yob, Louisiana_Sitar_Club, made known his intent to donate half his annual salary to Habitat for Humanity in a blistering foul-mouthed rant."
 
2013-05-21 10:32:55 AM

jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*


They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.
 
2013-05-21 10:33:30 AM
Wait, that wasn't the right word...
 
2013-05-21 10:37:59 AM

ImpendingCynic: The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?


The greatest danger, and one we Torries are altogether opposed to, is the further loosening of the public morals that have shielded the Kingdom through the darkest of days. The grand old Anglican values of propriety, prudence, honour, and duty stand threatened by this most pernicious creep of base turpitude. When Hitler was bombing London, and the bread lines stretched for miles during the lulls between the ghastly explosions, from Tooting High Street to Piccadilly we stood firm in the knowledge that no one of us cowering in the rubble would stoop to such strange and depraved behaviour as to ask his own son to marry him! By the Queen's honour, with what fantastical perversions will Labour bedevil us next, I ask?
 
2013-05-21 10:39:21 AM

CapeFearCadaver: jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*

They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.


static.diary.ru

This man likes the cut of your jib.
 
2013-05-21 10:40:10 AM

ImpendingCynic: The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?


Yes. You are just reencoding discrimination into the law.
 
2013-05-21 10:41:56 AM
Ooh, are we forced gay marrying British people? Because I call Emma Watson.

Because Emma Watson.
 
2013-05-21 10:42:40 AM
lesbian queen

A great movie and band name
 
2013-05-21 10:45:08 AM

Cheron: lesbian queen

A great movie and band name


Its taken, I'm sure.
 
2013-05-21 10:49:47 AM

CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.


frog14.myweb.uga.edu


Have at it.
 
2013-05-21 10:52:06 AM

ImpendingCynic: The only way it's possible for this to end up with a father marrying his own son is if it's currently possible for a father to marry his own daughter. Is that possible? Then you have bigger problems.

I never understood the movement to ban gay marriage "because it will lead to polygamy, incest, bestiality" blah blah. Write the law limiting marriage to two humans of consensual age, and optionally no blood relation within n-degrees.

Done. Was that so difficult?


Came here to say this but probably less coherently. Well done.

The comments prompt the inevitable question though. The actual argument raised was clearly rubbish, as ImpendingCynic has well demonstrated. This guy is both well educated and very experienced in politics. He's either senile or he's trying too hard to come up with something that sounds credible because his real fears about the legislation are undescribable.

My personal theory relates to the real winners and losers from marriage reform allowing gay marriage. The real winners are the relatively small number of gay folks wanting to marry. I have no reason to deny them this; I am a happily married heterosexual bloke in a marriage which, while raising a family of my wife's kids and grandkids, will never produce my own children and I'm cool with that. So the thought that marriage is all about procreating one's own genetics is meaningless in the context of my marriage. And yet no one objects to our situation. So I don't object to Adam and Steve celebrating their eternal love. And in response to the crap that the gays want to ruin marriage, marriage has long been ruined by heterosexual couples divorcing rather than take their vows seriously, so if your issue is that traditional marriage is under threat you've obviously never  heard of The Kardashians. The fact is no one loses if gays marry.

No, that's not true.

The big losers are the probably millions of gay folks who've done "the right thing" and married heterosexually anyway because they can't admit who they are, and, let's face it, many communities wouldn't let them do this even if they were strong enough to be themselves. So they live a lie.

Adam and Steve getting married on their front lawn over the road from my place would be fine. I'd try to get an invite if I could. Because it is no threat to me or my marriage in any way, and celebrating loving relationships while dancing to decent dance music is a fine way to spend an evening.

But if I was gay and living a lie, it would be a disaster.

Now I'm not saying that every opponent of gay marriage is living their own lie. But I am saying that a hell of a lot of them know the real statistics about marriages that might be under threat when gay marriage is legalised. It's threatening only to those who are living a lie or those who would be embarrassed by members of their own religious and social communities taking the opportunity to own up to themselves and their families, come out and leave their wives (/beards).

My personal suspicion is that the Catholic church, with its focus on confession, is all too aware that many of its pillars are men who crave cock or their wives who crave pussy. They can't handle the truth or they wouldn't fear it as they so do.

If you're pro-family yet oppose gay marriage and thus deny the many children of parents in same-sex relationships the delight of seeing their parents marry their life partner, you're not pro-family at all. You're pathetic.
 
2013-05-21 10:52:27 AM

Deathfrogg: CapeFearCadaver: Imma marry a turtle and live happily ever after.

[frog14.myweb.uga.edu image 401x534]


Have at it.


\o/

I'm destroying Traditional Marriage™
 
2013-05-21 10:52:38 AM
www.bbc.co.uk
 
2013-05-21 10:54:46 AM

Cythraul: Judging by his appearance, and his views on social policy, I'd say he probably thinks it's 1865.


How dare  you besmirch the good name of Baron Tebbit by suggesting he's a lilly-livered modernising liberal!
 
2013-05-21 11:06:04 AM
 the former Cabinet minister even warned that same-sex marriage legislation could see a lesbian queen on the throne

As an American, I hate to have to a Brit, but: the Act of Settlement contains a relentlessly deterministic mechanism for deciding who exactly is the next person in line to sit on the throne - if the correct conditions are met, a 35 stone, tattooed, bull-dyke she-beast with enough piercings to make metal detectors go off for miles around, dragging a virtual BDSM harem along behind her in chains would be the next monarch under current British law, and no one could do a goddamn thing about it.
 
2013-05-21 11:06:07 AM
He told the Big Issue: "It would lift my worries about inheritance tax because maybe I'd be allowed to marry my son. Why not?
"Why shouldn't a mother marry her daughter? Why shouldn't two elderly sisters living together marry each other?"


But enough about David Cameron's secret sexual fantasies...
 
2013-05-21 11:08:05 AM
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2013-05-21 11:09:56 AM
I wonder if he's harboring a secret desire to do so. That's so messed up even the Greeks didn't think of that one.
 
2013-05-21 11:10:15 AM
i14.photobucket.com

/and possibly get divorced
 
2013-05-21 11:10:40 AM
memecreator.eu
 
2013-05-21 11:10:52 AM

doyner: That's a mind-blowingly fallacious argument.


What you did there. I see mit.
 
2013-05-21 11:11:02 AM
i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 11:11:47 AM
i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 11:13:46 AM
media.twirlit.com
 
2013-05-21 11:14:13 AM
If he's farking his son he should marry him.
 
2013-05-21 11:14:13 AM

Cythraul: I wonder if his son knows of his father's not-so-secret desire to marry him?


FTFY. Seriously, he's aired his deepest, darkest desire in a national publication. I don't think Tebbit's homosexual tendencies can be denied any more. England has a new queen, and her name is Norma(n)!
 
2013-05-21 11:16:14 AM
Does anyone recall the Stephen Colbert mocking of Jeremy Irons about this?  It was hysterical.  Funniest take I have ever seen done by him.
 
2013-05-21 11:16:49 AM
"When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?"

Finally, someone thinks of the children.
 
2013-05-21 11:17:31 AM
Sounds like gramps has been refusing to take his medication, again.

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2013-05-21 11:17:46 AM

Cythraul: CapeFearCadaver: jayhawk88: Yeah, like there's never been a gay or lesbian king or queen on the throne of England before *eyeroll*

They hid that sh*t properly though... by "marrying" someone of the opposite sex... and having fun with their entourage. See? You can do what you want, as long as you "marry" the proper person as God prescribes.

[static.diary.ru image 704x368]

This man likes the cut of your jib.


/also likes the cut of your jib
 
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