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(KSTP St. Paul)   Thieves buy convenience store with rubber check, sell gas at a big discount, mark everything in the store at 50%, collect $50,000 and scram before the downpayment check bounces   (kstp.com) divider line 79
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2013-05-21 08:33:50 AM  
Someone needs a new Title/Escrow company.
 
2013-05-21 08:47:10 AM  
bullmurph.com

Approves

/fark you, pay me
 
2013-05-21 08:51:10 AM  
images.wikia.com
 
2013-05-21 09:08:58 AM  
...The Royal Nigerian Aristocrats?
 
2013-05-21 09:11:05 AM  
It's the classic Albany Ham Scam with a slight twist.
 
2013-05-21 10:05:36 AM  
Genius!
 
2013-05-21 10:14:57 AM  
Modern day Robin Hoods.
 
2013-05-21 10:16:43 AM  
They say it is illegal, under state law, to set gas prices too low because it is a regulated industry.

Classic.
 
2013-05-21 10:16:49 AM  
Ladies and gentlemen.  THATS how you rob a farking convenience store!
 
2013-05-21 10:19:12 AM  
I was going to say how could anyone be stupid enough to let somebody take over their gas station so fast that the check hadn't even cleared before all their shiat got hawked.

Then I saw that it was in Minnesota.
 
2013-05-21 10:19:57 AM  
Half off or not.....I ain't buyin one of these again
ts3.mm.bing.net
 
2013-05-21 10:20:59 AM  
Seems like a lot of work with a high chance of prosecution for $50k
 
2013-05-21 10:21:38 AM  
$3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.
 
2013-05-21 10:22:32 AM  
$3.85 gas a huge steal?
Wow its 4.29 in Waconia right now in most places. Wow I'm glad I live on the east coast  (3.59)
 
2013-05-21 10:23:43 AM  

musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.


^^^^^^^ whole lotta this!!!


$3.23 in CenLa
 
2013-05-21 10:24:29 AM  
It's been around 3.85 here in Ohio lately.  Between that and 3.60.  Glad there are regulations limiting how cheaply gas can be sold.  Too bad there aren't regulations limiting how expensive it can get, or how fast the price can climb when supplies aren't actually being affected by anything.  At all.

/Wish I lived close enough to work to just bike
 
2013-05-21 10:24:56 AM  
Pretty sweet grift...
 
2013-05-21 10:27:09 AM  
Even farking Ebay sellers say they won't ship something until a 7-10 day window if payment is by check.
 
2013-05-21 10:27:10 AM  
Am I missing something?  $3.85 a gallon is considered low?
That's about 50 cents MORE than the going rate around me.
 
2013-05-21 10:30:00 AM  
Well, if the previous owners were stupid enough to hand over the keys before the check cleared, it serves them right. Only thing you can really punish them for is the bounced check.
 
2013-05-21 10:32:30 AM  

Alonjar: They say it is illegal, under state law, to set gas prices too low because it is a regulated industry.

Classic.



I assume many states have this law,  it purpose is to prevent a big company cornering the market and driving out small gas stations that can't have a lost leader or need a larger profit margin to stay afloat.
 
2013-05-21 10:34:19 AM  

positive thinking does NOT work!: Am I missing something?  $3.85 a gallon is considered low?
That's about 50 cents MORE than the going rate around me.


MN has the 2nd highest gas in the nation,   the state shut down our two refineries or something.
 
2013-05-21 10:35:25 AM  

positive thinking does NOT work!: Am I missing something?  $3.85 a gallon is considered low?
That's about 50 cents MORE than the going rate around me.


gas prices are set based on city, or do you not drive out of town? i can go one town over and the prive with be up to 10 cents off (thats pre liter were I live). go from a small to a big city and that might change even more due to diffrances in blend. A low smog blend for example is sold in cities but not small or rural towns from what I understand. it also costs more to make and lower population areas dont have smog issues.


also if you are half awake you will notice that all gas stations set their price to pretty much the same thing in each town at midnight. then their respective holding companys will call them to fark with it all day based on sales projections and competotors prices. its pretty complicated just to get people to buy potato chips, soda and cigs from you instead of the other guy when they decide to fill up.
 
2013-05-21 10:35:52 AM  
$3.85 is about 40 cents more than I pay around here. Good job on making sure that check cleared first. When I bought my home they didnt even let me step foot in it until everything was checked out and the check cleared.
 
2013-05-21 10:39:08 AM  
Here in the Valley of the Sun (Phoenix), the prices rose to $3.42 the other day for the Holiday weekend.

What kind of idiot would let them take over before the check cleared?
 
2013-05-21 10:39:48 AM  

musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.


Two refineries near Chicago are out of service, just in time for Memorial Day. There's a gas shortage to accompany our refinery shortage.
 
2013-05-21 10:44:55 AM  

TheManMythLegend: positive thinking does NOT work!: Am I missing something?  $3.85 a gallon is considered low?
That's about 50 cents MORE than the going rate around me.

MN has the 2nd highest gas in the nation,   the state shut down our two refineries or something.


That's what you get for electing all those repugnicans.
 
2013-05-21 10:52:11 AM  

TheManMythLegend: positive thinking does NOT work!: Am I missing something?  $3.85 a gallon is considered low?
That's about 50 cents MORE than the going rate around me.

MN has the 2nd highest gas in the nation,   the state shut down our two refineries or something.


Yep, according to gas buddy the price there should be 4.29  ouch.
 
2013-05-21 10:52:16 AM  

LesserEvil: TheManMythLegend: positive thinking does NOT work!: Am I missing something?  $3.85 a gallon is considered low?
That's about 50 cents MORE than the going rate around me.

MN has the 2nd highest gas in the nation,   the state shut down our two refineries or something.

That's what you get for electing all those repugnicans.


Actually both houses and our Gov, are DFL controlled.
 
2013-05-21 10:52:31 AM  

musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.


That's because we have some of the lowest gas taxes in the country. Why have the people using the roads pay for them when you can get the non-drivers to subsidize them via the general sales tax?
 
2013-05-21 10:53:38 AM  
LesserEvil:

That's what you get for electing all those repugnicans.

I must be living in a different Minnesota.
 
2013-05-21 10:54:11 AM  

btraz70: Half off or not.....I ain't buyin one of these again
[ts3.mm.bing.net image 320x240]


ihaveeveryrighttocomplain.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-21 10:54:36 AM  
I love non-violent criminals.  I really have no problem (other than the ethical one) with crime like this.  I know, it sounds contradictory, but this is the crime we should be worried about, not kidnappings, rapes etc.

I would love to come home and watch the local news and hear about stories like this one, Nigerian type scams and bicycle thefts.

If I were the judge I would go semi easy on these guys and prevent that escrow company from doing business.
 
2013-05-21 10:56:03 AM  

Wellon Dowd: musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.

That's because we have some of the lowest gas taxes in the country. Why have the people using the roads pay for them when you can get the non-drivers to subsidize them via the general sales tax?


That actually makes more sense, because non-drivers benefit just as much from the road network as drivers do. That is, unless you live on a self-sufficient farm. Shipping trucks contribute far more to the wear and tear on a road than commuters do
 
2013-05-21 11:01:02 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Wellon Dowd: musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.

That's because we have some of the lowest gas taxes in the country. Why have the people using the roads pay for them when you can get the non-drivers to subsidize them via the general sales tax?

That actually makes more sense, because non-drivers benefit just as much from the road network as drivers do. That is, unless you live on a self-sufficient farm. Shipping trucks contribute far more to the wear and tear on a road than commuters do


Non-drivers benefit from roads but they don't benefit just as much. Drivers get an additional benefit when they travel on the roads.

The price of the goods non-drivers purchase will include a portion for gas taxes, unless you think the shipping companies are eating that expense.
 
2013-05-21 11:01:05 AM  

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: I love non-violent criminals.  I really have no problem (other than the ethical one) with crime like this.  I know, it sounds contradictory, but this is the crime we should be worried about, not kidnappings, rapes etc.

I would love to come home and watch the local news and hear about stories like this one, Nigerian type scams and bicycle thefts.

If I were the judge I would go semi easy on these guys and prevent that escrow company from doing business.


Yeah this kinda crime strikes me as original, clever and well thought out. If they get caught Ill be disappointed in them. But kinda dosent seem worth it for $50k now $50 million is another story.
 
2013-05-21 11:01:46 AM  
Step 4: Profit?
 
2013-05-21 11:02:58 AM  
If you are going to scam someone beats getting punched in the gut at a bar, getting beaten by oranges by Bobo, or sleeping with the landlord

Just saying....

www.awardsdaily.com
 
2013-05-21 11:14:12 AM  
Not only do gas taxes pay for road maintenance and upkeep in Illinois, but the state lottery kicks in as well. And prices are STILL ridiculous.
$4.39/gal in Chicago
 
2013-05-21 11:14:27 AM  
While you were checking how much less your local gas is than $3.85, the same thieves came to your house and ransacked your stash in another room.
 
2013-05-21 11:15:50 AM  

mr_a: Someone needs a new Title/Escrow company.


After watching the interview with the owner I'm guessing she didn't use one.
 
2013-05-21 11:17:26 AM  
This guy again?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-21 11:26:27 AM  

Huron77: Not only do gas taxes pay for road maintenance and upkeep in Illinois, but the state lottery kicks in as well. And prices are STILL ridiculous.
$4.39/gal in Chicago


Paid $4.22 at a Shell/Jewel Express in the city this a.m. As the State gas tax is based off a percentage of the retail price, farking-A this state should be rolling in the dough. Instead, we r as broke as a joke.
 
2013-05-21 11:31:54 AM  

remus: Here in the Valley of the Sun (Phoenix), the prices rose to $3.42 the other day for the Holiday weekend.

What kind of idiot would let them take over before the check cleared?


Heh...a law school buddy of mine went to work for a pretty prestigious Boston firm.

His second month, he almost got fired, since there's no good way to explain in a firm-wide meeting to a not-so-bright senior partner how checks work...
 
2013-05-21 11:35:16 AM  
I bet they left their pics on the security cam.
 
2013-05-21 11:41:59 AM  
 
Ehh
2013-05-21 11:47:25 AM  
Years ago I read a book by some career criminal who worked this scam for decades. His favorite was furniture stores. He only got caught once in a while, but the last time was good for many, many years. Criminals who don't drop bodies don't get so much attention.
 
2013-05-21 11:48:38 AM  

boarch: $2.94 - Suck it.
http://www.southcarolinagasprices.com/



I'll suck it just fine thank you...
You can keep your low gas prices AND your JUMPING SPIDERS in South Carolina...
ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2013-05-21 11:53:09 AM  
The prices seemed too good to be true and they were.

Last Saturday a Waconia Super America sold gas for $3.85 a gallon


As someone that payed $3.06 a gallon to fill up yesterday, I laugh in these peoples general direction.
 
2013-05-21 11:54:35 AM  
Got to give them points imagination.
 
2013-05-21 12:07:23 PM  

btraz70: boarch: $2.94 - Suck it.
http://www.southcarolinagasprices.com/


I'll suck it just fine thank you...
You can keep your low gas prices AND your JUMPING SPIDERS in South Carolina...
[ts1.mm.bing.net image 300x286]


haha those are harmless and I've only ever seen them deep in the woods

more scary:
www.venombyte.com
extras.mnginteractive.com
www.umm.edu

Found this terrible trifecta in my garage this spring. yikes.
 
2013-05-21 12:08:08 PM  
Sounds like an insurance scam.

"I sold my store to some people and then they sold all the stuff, but then the cheque didn't clear and now I have an empty store"
 
2013-05-21 12:12:05 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: The prices seemed too good to be true and they were.

Last Saturday a Waconia Super America sold gas for $3.85 a gallon

As someone that payed $3.06 a gallon to fill up yesterday, I laugh in these peoples general direction.


As someone who paid $4.03 a gallon, I hate SoCal.  Fark this state.
 
2013-05-21 12:16:01 PM  

HatMadeOfAss: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: The prices seemed too good to be true and they were.

Last Saturday a Waconia Super America sold gas for $3.85 a gallon

As someone that payed $3.06 a gallon to fill up yesterday, I laugh in these peoples general direction.

As someone who paid $4.03 a gallon, I hate SoCal.  Fark this state.


$4.36 and it's killin me even at 38.5mpg
 
2013-05-21 12:20:30 PM  

boarch: btraz70: boarch: $2.94 - Suck it.
http://www.southcarolinagasprices.com/


I'll suck it just fine thank you...
You can keep your low gas prices AND your JUMPING SPIDERS in South Carolina...
[ts1.mm.bing.net image 300x286]

haha those are harmless and I've only ever seen them deep in the woods

more scary:
[www.venombyte.com image 790x556]
[extras.mnginteractive.com image 300x200]
[www.umm.edu image 400x320]

Found this terrible trifecta in my garage this spring. yikes.


Oh hell no....how much did you get back from the insurance company after you set your garage on fire??
 
2013-05-21 12:22:10 PM  
And this is why big sales, like houses, are usually conducted by lawyers. They may be blood sucking creeps but they ain't giving you the keys till they been paid.
 
2013-05-21 12:32:30 PM  

boarch: btraz70: boarch: $2.94 - Suck it.
http://www.southcarolinagasprices.com/


I'll suck it just fine thank you...
You can keep your low gas prices AND your JUMPING SPIDERS in South Carolina...
[ts1.mm.bing.net image 300x286]

haha those are harmless and I've only ever seen them deep in the woods

more scary:
[www.venombyte.com image 790x556]
[extras.mnginteractive.com image 300x200]
[www.umm.edu image 400x320]

Found this terrible trifecta in my garage this spring. yikes.


I am imagining you saw both the black widow and brown recluse each riding one of those copper heads with little lances or something.
 
2013-05-21 12:35:18 PM  
 They say it is illegal, under state law, to set gas prices too low because it is a regulated industry state sponsered racketeering .
 
2013-05-21 12:36:48 PM  

JohnCarter: If you are going to scam someone beats getting punched in the gut at a bar, getting beaten by oranges by Bobo, or sleeping with the landlord

Just saying....


www.awardsdaily.com

 i.imgur.com

/hot
 
2013-05-21 12:42:52 PM  

musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.


It's $5.33 per US gallon here.  (West coast of Canada)
 
2013-05-21 12:48:24 PM  
I paid $4.11 or so at Safeway last night. :(
 
2013-05-21 12:53:27 PM  
The mob ran a great gas scam in NY for years they would buy a gas station and collect the sales tax for the gas but never turn it into the state they would just pocket it. The state would send letters about paying the tax and by the time the state came in to collect the station would be shut down. And a week later it would be under "new" ownership and the scam would repeat.
 
2013-05-21 12:53:50 PM  

theMagni: musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.

It's $5.33 per US gallon here.  (West coast of Canada)


got to pay for that 'free' healthcare somehow, it ain't the cost of producing/distributing that gas that makes it so expensive.
 
2013-05-21 12:55:33 PM  

TheManMythLegend: Alonjar: They say it is illegal, under state law, to set gas prices too low because it is a regulated industry.

Classic.


I assume many states have this law,  it purpose is to prevent a big company cornering the market and driving out small gas stations that can't have a lost leader or need a larger profit margin to stay afloat.


DING DING DING DING DING!!!

That tactic was one of John D. Rockefeller's favorites. He'd swoop into a region and demand to buy up all the competition. If any remained who wouldn't sell to him, he would then sell his petroleum in the area at a loss, specifically to bankrupt them. Once they were dead, he'd move into their space.
 
2013-05-21 01:02:57 PM  
3.16 here.
 
2013-05-21 01:14:14 PM  

LesserEvil: TheManMythLegend: positive thinking does NOT work!: Am I missing something?  $3.85 a gallon is considered low?
That's about 50 cents MORE than the going rate around me.

MN has the 2nd highest gas in the nation,   the state shut down our two refineries or something.

That's what you get for electing all those repugnicans.


The rich man's union?
 
2013-05-21 01:17:34 PM  

Oldiron_79: 3.16 here.


3.90 where I live.
 
2013-05-21 01:42:02 PM  
farking bootstraps, how do they work?
 
2013-05-21 02:04:52 PM  

wambu: This guy again?

[i.imgur.com image 500x365]


you owe me a keyboard and I need eye and brain bleach.

*rubbing eyes and trying to get the image out of my head!!!!
 
2013-05-21 02:15:32 PM  
Sounds like the Pakis that bought and sold the gas station nearby. They got out fast and left the tanks to fester in the ground without cleaning it up so even the Koreans won't buy it.
 
2013-05-21 02:29:07 PM  

Russ1642: And this is why big sales, like houses, are usually conducted by lawyers. They may be blood sucking creeps but they ain't giving you the keys till they been paid.


The operative phrase is Due Diligence.  It involves things like checking out the buyers banking arrangements, getting ten years employment history and actually calling those people, and at least getting original copies of all their credit reports and D&B.  I won't let my clients even talk to people about a sale unless the buyers sign an authorization allowing me to check out their bank accounts, credit report and employment history.  It's too expensive to do with everybody who wants to buy, but I'm damn sure doing it before I let my client sign a sales agreement.

I also require a cashier's check or wire transfer for the downpayment and inventory.  They can't pull this off if the inventory money is in my client's account before they get out of the room at signing.
 
2013-05-21 03:28:48 PM  

jake_lex: [bullmurph.com image 400x220]

Approves

/fark you, pay me


The person who posted ahead of you sucks for not having nailed it in one.

/nailed it in two
 
2013-05-21 04:17:55 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Wellon Dowd: musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.

That's because we have some of the lowest gas taxes in the country. Why have the people using the roads pay for them when you can get the non-drivers to subsidize them via the general sales tax?

That actually makes more sense, because non-drivers benefit just as much from the road network as drivers do. That is, unless you live on a self-sufficient farm. Shipping trucks contribute far more to the wear and tear on a road than commuters do


And those delivery trucks buy a lot more gas than commuters do, so it evens out.
 
2013-05-21 05:11:54 PM  
Goldman Sachs?   Or was this bush league for the M.O.?
 
2013-05-21 06:31:50 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Lost Thought 00: Wellon Dowd: musicmanboston: $3.85 per gallon is a discount? That's $0.40 more than here in Virginia. Sheesh.

That's because we have some of the lowest gas taxes in the country. Why have the people using the roads pay for them when you can get the non-drivers to subsidize them via the general sales tax?

That actually makes more sense, because non-drivers benefit just as much from the road network as drivers do. That is, unless you live on a self-sufficient farm. Shipping trucks contribute far more to the wear and tear on a road than commuters do

And those delivery trucks buy a lot more gas than commuters do, so it evens out.


It never comes close to evening out. Big trucks are so much more efficient than cars and light trucks, so they cause 10,000 times as much damage while only using 20 times as much fuel.

Plus some number of truckers always ruin it for everyone else by driving down residential roads to avoid traffic, spreading the problem out instead of localizing it to primary arterials.
 
2013-05-21 07:36:06 PM  
i745.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 07:40:01 PM  

groppet: Yeah this kinda crime strikes me as original, clever and well thought out.


I'm sure it has been done before, but man.... it relies so much on picking a good mark, timing, and a shiatload of luck, I gotta hand it to them, they pulled it off. What a lot of people think is probably right, what doesn't get a lot of media attention (armed robbery, killing, kidnapping, or anything involving a gun) is likely to get less attention or effort by the police, since less of the public would be screaming for blood and pounding down the doors of the mayor and police chief.

Still isn't worth it for me. Just signed re-enlistment papers today (huzzah! More than 12 years in!), and I've worked my ass off way too hard to throw it away over something like this.
 
2013-05-21 07:57:19 PM  

Alonjar: They say it is illegal, under state law, to set gas prices too low because it is a regulated industry.

Classic.


This is what stood out to me as well.
 
2013-05-21 08:23:19 PM  

scandalrag: I also require a cashier's check or wire transfer for the downpayment and inventory. They can't pull this off if the inventory money is in my client's account before they get out of the room at signing.


Seriously.  You need a cashier's check for the down payment on a house, and that's a hell of a lot easier to get back after shenanigans than business inventory.  But something tells me, the sellers didn't have outside counsel working on this one.
 
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