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(Business Insider)   The GOP's relentless focus on scandal has them riding high on their lowest favorably numbers in 30 years. Winning   (businessinsider.com) divider line 165
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2013-05-21 07:48:07 AM  
they may not have thought their cunning plan all the way through.
 
2013-05-21 08:12:45 AM  
This will just encourage them to push harder. They are not all that bright.
 
2013-05-21 08:17:45 AM  
I'm waiting for all the scandals to join to form one huge meta scandal to consume us all.
 
2013-05-21 08:19:50 AM  
It's as if both sides are bad or something.
 
2013-05-21 08:23:33 AM  
In other news, 1992 was thirty years ago.
 
2013-05-21 08:57:20 AM  

Cythraul: I'm waiting for all the scandals to join to form one huge meta scandal to consume us all.


MetAPghazIRSgate! Yay! Where's the popcorn!
 
2013-05-21 09:03:56 AM  
It truly pains me to have to explain statistical methodology to you subby, because I know it's like throwing pearls to swine. You know what that means, right? Pearls to swine? Well, see, pearls are valuable bits of sand that come from oysters. I know that doesn't sound impressive but trust me they're really cool. And swine are pigs. Do you think pigs would appreciate pearls, that it would look at a string of them in its mud pen and think, Oink my goodness, what is this? What a fine set of pearls. I shall wear them and be the finest pig on the farm. No, of course they don't think that. So it would be stupid to throw my pearls to a pig, wouldn't it? That's what that saying means if you ever hear it again.

Anyway, polling numbers actually require complex statistical calculational adjustments and cross-nominational harmonizing in order to render accurate results. I know you don't know what that means, but let's do a sample poll to demonstrate. Let's say we want to find out how many people like Cadbury Cream Eggs. We devise 5 questions:

1) Do you like to eat Cadbury Cream Eggs? (yes or no)
2) Do you think Cadbury Cream Eggs are vile? (yes or no)
3) Do you think Cadbury Cream Eggs are too sugary? (yes or no)
4) Do you eat Cadbury Cream Eggs every chance you get? (yes or no)
5) Do you believe Cadbury Cream Eggs are healthy? (yes or no)

Now, we conduct the poll on 20 people and get the following results:

1) yes=15 no=5
2) yes=4, no=16
3) yes=10, no=10
4) yes=2, no=18
5) yes=1, no=17 (2 non-respond)

Now, a normal person would read these poll results, add up the answers (27 yes, 66 no, 2 nr) and conclude that, by an almost 3-1 ratio, the vast majority of people don't like Cadbury Cream Eggs. But they'd be WRONG again, because they haven't "drilled down" into the data. First, you must consider the basic question, which is simply about people who "like" Cadbury Creams Eggs. So now we have to go question by question and harmonize the statistics. We do this by rendering each question a percentage and applying a negativity index (n) to it if it's framing a negative mindset toward the prime directive, or original question. For example, question 1 would actually be read as +75 because it's a positive reactor to the prime. However, question 2 is a negative reactor that comes out at n80, or -80, which means we're actually at -5. Question 3 is also a negative reactor, but it's evenly divided and so we'll have to come back it. Question 4 is a positive reactor, so 2/20 = +10 (putting us at +5 on the survey) and question 5 is positive as well, so +5, which puts us at +10 overall.

So only 10 percent of people like Cadbury Cream Eggs, right? WRONG again! You forgot to go back to question 3. See, we've now established a positive yield in the survey of +10, so we can take the evenly divided question 3 and at this point extract the positive element, giving us +50. Added to our +10, that's now +60 -- so 60 percent of people actually LIKE Cadbury Cream Eggs. Get it?

It's so easy to take a poll and over-simplify it. Understanding them requires real complexity and a willingness to get your hands dirty. I don't know if that was done here, though, for this poll about Republicans, and so I'd caution you from taking it too seriously. That's all I'm saying.
 
2013-05-21 09:04:42 AM  

Cythraul: I'm waiting for all the scandals to join to form one huge meta scandal to consume us all.


Scantron?

/no wait, that's been used
 
2013-05-21 09:06:17 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Cythraul: I'm waiting for all the scandals to join to form one huge meta scandal to consume us all.

Scantron?

/no wait, that's been used


Now now form, the bureaucratic head!
 
2013-05-21 09:08:31 AM  

clancifer: This will just encourage them to push harder. They are not all that bright.


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2013-05-21 09:08:33 AM  
Damn you Obama!!
 
2013-05-21 09:09:10 AM  

Pocket Ninja: That's all I'm saying.


And I see we're done here
 
2013-05-21 09:10:07 AM  

Aarontology: In other news, 1992 was thirty years ago.


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"Are you sure? It doesn't feel that long ago!"
 
2013-05-21 09:10:13 AM  
Beats workin.
 
2013-05-21 09:10:45 AM  
I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.
 
2013-05-21 09:12:15 AM  

I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.


As long as you keep voting Republican. You sound like an abused housewife.
 
2013-05-21 09:13:35 AM  

I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.


Come over to the dark side. We have cookies, booze, good dope and loose women.
 
2013-05-21 09:13:47 AM  
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No one is allowed to criticize Obama, the media is the next target.
 
2013-05-21 09:14:38 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Pocket Ninja: That's all I'm saying.

And I see we're done here


I read almost all of it and was having an out of body "What the HELL is this guy thinking..."  I even started to reach for the reply button to question the sanity of the writer.... thank god my brain was awake enough to check the poster name first.... I think it was maybe only the length of the post that saved me.  The truely committed derpers can't put that much wharglarble down in one post without using "libtard" at least once.
 
2013-05-21 09:16:16 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.

Come over to the dark side. We have cookies, booze, good dope and loose women.


I used to vote split ticket. After the whole health care thing though I cant bring myself to do it anymore. I dont care how many fat drunk women you throw at me!!
 
2013-05-21 09:16:35 AM  
I wonder if this is just how politics will be from here on out. Let's assume the GOP takes the Senate and Presidency. What then? Are Democrats just going to filibuster everything in retaliation?
 
2013-05-21 09:16:37 AM  

I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.


you DO know how to stick it to the man!

that'll show 'em
 
2013-05-21 09:16:57 AM  

smitty04: No one is allowed to criticize Obama, the media is the next target.


Kinda mixing your metaphors a little there. Or are we to the point where it's just a cheap scandal stir fry where you just grab some of column a and some of column b, throw some Benghazi powder on it, put an umbrella on top and chow down?
 
2013-05-21 09:18:54 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I wonder if this is just how politics will be from here on out. Let's assume the GOP takes the Senate and Presidency. What then? Are Democrats just going to filibuster everything in retaliation?


No, they'll just acquiesce like the pussies they are.
 
2013-05-21 09:18:58 AM  
"There's lies; damned lies; and statistics."  I don't recall who said that, but whenever you poll a general sample of the populace, at least 12% won't know what farkin' day of the week it is.

/plus or minus 2%

//this is Thursday, right?
 
2013-05-21 09:19:26 AM  

I alone am best: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.

Come over to the dark side. We have cookies, booze, good dope and loose women.

I used to vote split ticket. After the whole health care thing though I cant bring myself to do it anymore. I dont care how many fat drunk women you throw at me!!


They're not fat, they're skinny little stoned hippy chicks, with those nice, perky b cups we all love so well. Plus, they get their birth control for free now, so you don't have to worry about knocking them up!
 
2013-05-21 09:19:34 AM  

I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.


It's all right - lots of us have made the switch - hell if you're from a relatively moderate state there isnt all that much difference most of the time.  And if you it makes you feel better spit the ticket - stick with the "non-crazy" (R's) if you have any (mine retired after 2012).
 
2013-05-21 09:20:09 AM  

Pocket Ninja: It truly pains me to have to explain statistical methodology to you subby, because I know it's like throwing pearls to swine. You know what that means, right? Pearls to swine? Well, see, pearls are valuable bits of sand that come from oysters. I know that doesn't sound impressive but trust me they're really cool. And swine are pigs. Do you think pigs would appreciate pearls, that it would look at a string of them in its mud pen and think, Oink my goodness, what is this? What a fine set of pearls. I shall wear them and be the finest pig on the farm. No, of course they don't think that. So it would be stupid to throw my pearls to a pig, wouldn't it? That's what that saying means if you ever hear it again.

Anyway, polling numbers actually require complex statistical calculational adjustments and cross-nominational harmonizing in order to render accurate results. I know you don't know what that means, but let's do a sample poll to demonstrate. Let's say we want to find out how many people like Cadbury Cream Eggs. We devise 5 questions:

1) Do you like to eat Cadbury Cream Eggs? (yes or no)
2) Do you think Cadbury Cream Eggs are vile? (yes or no)
3) Do you think Cadbury Cream Eggs are too sugary? (yes or no)
4) Do you eat Cadbury Cream Eggs every chance you get? (yes or no)
5) Do you believe Cadbury Cream Eggs are healthy? (yes or no)

Now, we conduct the poll on 20 people and get the following results:

1) yes=15 no=5
2) yes=4, no=16
3) yes=10, no=10
4) yes=2, no=18
5) yes=1, no=17 (2 non-respond)

Now, a normal person would read these poll results, add up the answers (27 yes, 66 no, 2 nr) and conclude that, by an almost 3-1 ratio, the vast majority of people don't like Cadbury Cream Eggs. But they'd be WRONG again, because they haven't "drilled down" into the data. First, you must consider the basic question, which is simply about people who "like" Cadbury Creams Eggs. So now we have to go question by question and harmonize the statistics. We do this by rendering each ...


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2013-05-21 09:20:43 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I wonder if this is just how politics will be from here on out. Let's assume the GOP takes the Senate and Presidency. What then? Are Democrats just going to filibuster everything in retaliation?


Given that scenario I expect the first thing the new GOP majority will do is eliminate the filibuster.
 
2013-05-21 09:20:45 AM  
Mitch McConnell has tiger blood in his veins, bro.
 
2013-05-21 09:20:50 AM  
Hmm.. maybe they could dig up some nice Democratic scandal to distract the public from how much they dislike these tactics.
 
2013-05-21 09:21:17 AM  

Aarontology: In other news, 1992 was thirty years ago.


I was told there will be no math!
 
2013-05-21 09:21:26 AM  

smitty04: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 500x435]

No one is allowed to criticize Obama, the media is the next target.


...and it's not paranoia when everyone really is out to get you.
 
2013-05-21 09:22:07 AM  

SisterMaryElephant: I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.

you DO know how to stick it to the man!

that'll show 'em


Like Democrats who supposedly oppose Obama on warrantless wiretaps or general center-right policies, but vote for him anyway because Republicans.
 
2013-05-21 09:22:23 AM  

Fizpez: The truely committed derpers can't put that much wharglarble down in one post without using "libtard" at least once.


It's one of his best, that's for certain
 
2013-05-21 09:22:34 AM  
As much as partisan shills pretend it is treason, no one gave a shiat that Clinton got a blowjob.  The American people see this witch hunt as the same bullshiat they pulled the last time a democrat had a 2nd term and they are sick and tired of the GOP actively trying to thwart any efforts to improve this country.
 
2013-05-21 09:23:27 AM  
Because it's all about being liked, not doing the right thing.

amiright?
 
2013-05-21 09:23:35 AM  

Pocket Ninja: It truly pains me to have to explain statistical methodology to you subby, because I know it's like throwing pearls to swine. You know what that means, right? Pearls to swine? Well, see, pearls are .....


Nicely done. A bit of Dean Chambering there as well!
 
2013-05-21 09:23:42 AM  
CNN is a pole?
 
2013-05-21 09:24:29 AM  

Aarontology: In other news, 1992 was thirty years ago.


2013 - 1992 = 21

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2013-05-21 09:24:40 AM  
The monkey won't let go of the sweet sweet Bengazi fruit to get his hand out of the jar.
 
2013-05-21 09:25:14 AM  
Laser focused on jobs rape taxes IRS benghazi birth certificit leaks punishing storm victims.
 
2013-05-21 09:25:31 AM  

Citrate1007: As much as partisan shills pretend it is treason, no one gave a shiat that Clinton got a blowjob.  The American people see this witch hunt as the same bullshiat they pulled the last time a democrat had a 2nd term and they are sick and tired of the GOP actively trying to thwart any efforts to improve this country.


It's better than a bloody coup every time Republicans don't get their way, I guess.
 
2013-05-21 09:25:37 AM  

Pocket Ninja: It truly pains me t.......



Holy crap, that is probably the best explanation I've heard about why conservatives believed in unskewed polls. They were completely wrong mind you, but it does explain how so many could be so fooled.
 
2013-05-21 09:26:27 AM  

smitty04: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 500x435]

No one is allowed to criticize Obama, the media is the next target.


So you guys are finely admitting the conservatives have controlled to media for more than 20 years? Look at recent history. The media has been busting Obama's balls for years. Even after 24 hour coverage from all media outlets about Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, Obama still got elected. Liberal media my butt.
 
2013-05-21 09:26:33 AM  

GoldSpider: SisterMaryElephant: I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.

you DO know how to stick it to the man!

that'll show 'em

Like Democrats who supposedly oppose Obama on warrantless wiretaps or general center-right policies, but vote for him anyway because Republicans.


Bingo. "But the other side is worse" is exactly how the jackasses in DC get away with their bullshiat.

Say what you want about Romney, but that 47% remark was spot on. Not the part about how they're all entitled because they won't vote for him, but the part where he said his job is to win over the few percentage points in the supposed middle. He knew that the vast majority of the country is going to vote for their party no matter what, so you don't really need to listen to their concerns.
 
2013-05-21 09:27:32 AM  

aszure: 2013 - 1992 = 21


Thank you for doing the math for the joke at subby's expense.
 
2013-05-21 09:28:59 AM  
GoldSpider: SisterMaryElephant: I alone am best: I am a republican and I dont like the GOP. It doesnt mean I wont vote for them because the alternative is a democrat.

you DO know how to stick it to the man!

that'll show 'em

Like Democrats who supposively
supposedly oppose Obama on warrantless wiretaps or general center-right policies, but vote for him anyway because Republicans.

Jeez.
 
2013-05-21 09:29:45 AM  

Aarontology: In other news, 1992 was thirty years ago.


My 45th birthday is Saturday. I already feel old enough. Cut that shiat out.
 
2013-05-21 09:29:46 AM  
The levels of vitriolic derp that will be coming out of Virginia's elections between Labor Day and Election Day will do wonders for the image of the GOP.
 
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