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(Network World)   LinkedIn "endorsements" are so bogus even a lawyer finds them unethical   (networkworld.com) divider line 47
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2013-05-21 08:56:45 AM  
PC LOAD LETTER has endorsed you for buttsecks!
 
2013-05-21 08:58:33 AM  
I know you can turn that feature off, but I keep it enabled just to see what kind of random shiat people think I can actually do.
 
2013-05-21 08:59:09 AM  
Yes, the endorsements are bullshiat. LinkedIn is useful as a repository for recommendations (the things people actually bother to write about you), not for the endorsements. I never refer people to endorsements, but I do provide a link to my letters of references on my resume.
 
2013-05-21 09:03:16 AM  
I've got a couple of Army buddies on there. I've endorsed them for "pole dancing". I'm absolutely certain there will in no way be repurcussions for me because of this.
 
2013-05-21 09:06:52 AM  
What's the deal with Fark choosing key words out of posts and linking them to ads. I turned off my Ad Blocker for Fark, but this is seriously making me consider turning it back on.
 
2013-05-21 09:16:08 AM  

DeaH: What's the deal with Fark choosing key words out of posts and linking them to ads. I turned off my Ad Blocker for Fark, but this is seriously making me consider turning it back on.


You have malware, Fark doesn't do that.
 
2013-05-21 09:22:09 AM  
The endorsement feature is pretty much useless. I can't say I pay much attention to what is on there.  Now a good recommendation is another matter. There you have a written statement, and you know what relationship, experience etc. connects the two. That is at least handy when someone views your stuff so I tend to let recommendations go through.
 
2013-05-21 09:22:10 AM  
I get "endorsements" for my IT skills, even though I've been retired for 9 years, which is 2.5 tech generations.
 
2013-05-21 09:23:15 AM  
People keep giving me endorsements for skills I have listed, but they have no idea whatsoever whether I'm any good at it or not.  I assume this is an invitation for me to do the same for them.  I don't.
 
2013-05-21 09:36:05 AM  
Bored lawyer is bored.
 
2013-05-21 10:00:58 AM  

Kibbler: People keep giving me endorsements for skills I have listed, but they have no idea whatsoever whether I'm any good at it or not.  I assume this is an invitation for me to do the same for them.  I don't.


I've been wondering about this too.  There are people who I went to college with who endorse my tech skills, even though I never really used those back then.

It could also be that people are unwilling to say "no".  The last time I checked my LinkedIn profile and accepted some endorsements ('cause why not?), as soon as I was done the site prompted me asking whether I can endorse connection X for skill Y.  I went through a couple of those, and I figure that's probably where my "endorsements" came from.
 
2013-05-21 10:01:26 AM  
 What's that? My pastor endorses me for C#. Yeah. That' seems legit.
 
2013-05-21 10:09:17 AM  
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hej
2013-05-21 10:12:26 AM  
The endorsements aren't there to add credibility to the site for people browsing random profiles.  It's gamification to drive traffic from the people who have the profiles.
 
2013-05-21 10:19:53 AM  
Endorsements are only (mildly) useful if you know the person who made the endorsement.

I think we all need to endorse this lawyer for "skilled acting as Captain Obvious".
 
2013-05-21 10:24:12 AM  

hej: The endorsements aren't there to add credibility to the site for people browsing random profiles.  It's gamification to drive traffic from the people who have the profiles.


That's what I figure.  The two people who keep endorsing me for stuff they have no farking clue if I'm actually any good at, are two guys who are currently looking for work.
 
2013-05-21 10:31:51 AM  
The solution for this is simple : Chain of trust.

So someone who is in software engineering (has held a job doing it) should be 'weighted' more strongly than someone who simply knows you (like your parents) and don't work in the field. I know that I am much more careful with who I endorse with *MY* skill set. Similarly, my technical peers are careful about just what they mention others can do.
 
2013-05-21 10:40:14 AM  
What this lawyer needs is plausible deniability.
 
2013-05-21 10:42:01 AM  

rubi_con_man: The solution for this is simple : Chain of trust.

So someone who is in software engineering (has held a job doing it) should be 'weighted' more strongly than someone who simply knows you (like your parents) and don't work in the field. I know that I am much more careful with who I endorse with *MY* skill set. Similarly, my technical peers are careful about just what they mention others can do.


Agreed.  My dad "endorsed" me for something even though we aren't even in the same industry.  It's kind of embarrassing.
 
2013-05-21 10:59:47 AM  
To summarize something I saw from Texts from Last Night that is relevant to this thread:

"That rando I blew on the beach just endorsed me for Excellent Oral Communication skills on LinkedIn"

I think that says enough about skill endorsements on LinkedIn.
 
2013-05-21 11:06:07 AM  
Consider the source, if I read in the Harvard Law Review that Lawyer X was good at criminal law and Lawyer X wasn't then there might be an issue.  If I read on the mens room wall at Hooters the Lawyer Y was good I don't think Lawyer Y has much to worry about.

/Lawyer X has a spandex three piece suit and is a minor character in an upcoming X-Men movie
//Lawyer Y is good but expensive
 
2013-05-21 11:15:51 AM  
"Under ABA Model Rule 7.1, a lawyer is not to make any false or misleading claims about his or her services."

Even my GED in internet law is enough to tell the difference between a generic opinion that someone is a "skilled litigator" and a misleading objective claim such as, "Has won 100% of his court cases."

Trolololo. The prosecution rests.
 
2013-05-21 12:15:49 PM  
Bob is doing a program with me next week.  Good guy.
 
2013-05-21 12:45:42 PM  

Gunny Highway: Bob is doing a program with me next week.  Good guy.


So, you're... endorsing him?
 
2013-05-21 12:51:37 PM  

FormlessOne: Gunny Highway: Bob is doing a program with me next week.  Good guy.

So, you're... endorsing him?


Based on a colleague's endorsement.
 
2013-05-21 12:52:08 PM  

TheSelphie: rubi_con_man: The solution for this is simple : Chain of trust.

So someone who is in software engineering (has held a job doing it) should be 'weighted' more strongly than someone who simply knows you (like your parents) and don't work in the field. I know that I am much more careful with who I endorse with *MY* skill set. Similarly, my technical peers are careful about just what they mention others can do.

Agreed.  My dad "endorsed" me for something even though we aren't even in the same industry.  It's kind of embarrassing.


My mom did exactly the same thing AND asked for a professional connection. She's retired and apparently bored. I had to tell her "This isn't Facebook".
 
2013-05-21 01:35:40 PM  
I've been endorsed for skills I didn't even list in my profile, so that should tell you how much they are worth.

/the endorsements, not my skills
 
2013-05-21 02:13:32 PM  

Gunny Highway: FormlessOne: Gunny Highway: Bob is doing a program with me next week.  Good guy.

So, you're... endorsing him?

Based on a colleague's endorsement.


Ah-HA!
 
2013-05-21 02:16:34 PM  
My boss says his non-programmer connections keep endorsing his Subversion skills. Apparently they just think he's subversive.
 
2013-05-21 02:40:15 PM  

MrEricSir: My boss says his non-programmer connections keep endorsing his Subversion skills. Apparently they just think he's subversive.


If he'd only control his sources, he wouldn't have that problem.
 
2013-05-21 03:06:16 PM  
He's afraid that he's going to get in trouble with the ABA! That's why this sudden concern for ethics.
 
2013-05-21 03:12:23 PM  
Let's all agree on one thing, the true barometer of endorsements is how many you get - not so much what you were endorsed in. This shows a willingness of people to take the time (as insignificant as it may be) to go to that trouble, therefore if you have A LOT of people who endorse you, that says to me that you are probably a good networker or a charismatic person who is top of mind of the folks you meet or make connections with. Granted this is far from a foolproof method, but to say the feature is worthless or unethical is silly. You have to be a farking tard to take anything that happens on the internet or profile with a grain of salt, including resumes. When I interview someone, the resume is the least interesting part. I don't care about you on paper or your credentials, be they true or made up, I care if you can carry yourself well and get shiat done.
 
2013-05-21 03:20:34 PM  
LinkedIn, at this point, is pretty much entirely useless for anything at all.
 
2013-05-21 03:35:44 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Let's all agree on one thing, the true barometer of endorsements is how many you get - not so much what you were endorsed in. This shows a willingness of people to take the time (as insignificant as it may be) to go to that trouble, therefore if you have A LOT of people who endorse you, that says to me that you are probably a good networker or a charismatic person who is top of mind of the folks you meet or make connections with. Granted this is far from a foolproof method, but to say the feature is worthless or unethical is silly. You have to be a farking tard to take anything that happens on the internet or profile with a grain of salt, including resumes. When I interview someone, the resume is the least interesting part. I don't care about you on paper or your credentials, be they true or made up, I care if you can carry yourself well and get shiat done.


I think you are thinking of actual letters of recommendation, which LinkedIn also has.  These new endorsements are popups at login that might say "can Joe solder".  Then Joe gets an email saying the money in the banana stand has endorsed Joe for soldering, and invites Joe to rate other people.
 
2013-05-21 04:00:56 PM  

A Shambling Mound: LinkedIn, at this point, is pretty much entirely useless for anything at all.



Depends on what you do. I've gotten good job offers - real job offers for my specific and narrow field. Not just headhunters but people asking if I'd be interesed in interviewing (or know of someone else...) for a particular position they are having trouble filling. I got one about 3 weeks ago and then a couple days later a guy who left my company to go over to this other company sent me a message, also via LinkedIn, asking if I was interested in changing jobs. (My wife was mad at me for a while because I didn't go for it. An extra $15K or more per year isn't appealing enough that I'd spend 2 - 3 hours per day dealing with driving or driving and then taking the train to Chitcago to work. Even if you can drink on the train....just didn't want to do it. Of course she has no problem with me doing that to make the extra dough...)
Also I participate (mildly) in some profession groups where people might be trying to work through problems such as ~"how can I get a product of such and such construction through the regulatory process to be market-legal for installation in an ATEX Group I or Group IIIA environment in a mine in South Africa" . This constitutes excitement for people like me...
 
2013-05-21 04:04:10 PM  

FormlessOne: MrEricSir: My boss says his non-programmer connections keep endorsing his Subversion skills. Apparently they just think he's subversive.

If he'd only control his sources, he wouldn't have that problem.


He should probably git with the program.
 
2013-05-21 04:19:56 PM  

YodaBlues: FormlessOne: MrEricSir: My boss says his non-programmer connections keep endorsing his Subversion skills. Apparently they just think he's subversive.

If he'd only control his sources, he wouldn't have that problem.

He should probably git with the program.


I know, right? Friggin' fossil.
 
2013-05-21 05:14:23 PM  
I agree it's dumb.  I've been endorsed for things I don't know about.  However what I find amusing is the stuff that pops up for my friend who's a doctor.  It will be like "does so and so know about Diabetes?"  I don't know why, but it makes me laugh every time.
 
2013-05-21 05:17:14 PM  
I just love the generic ones. "You have been endorsed in 'Software'."
Any particular kind of so- Nope. All of it; all of the softwares.

/Still waiting to be endorsed in 'computery things'
 
2013-05-21 05:45:06 PM  

DeaH: What's the deal with Fark choosing key words out of posts and linking them to ads. I turned off my Ad Blocker for Fark, but this is seriously making me consider turning it back on.


Happened to me last week.  It's malware.  Check your downloaded program files.  I downloaded an e-mail reader program from CNET and it was bundled with a ton of malware and other garbage.  In my case simply deleting the programs did the trick.
 
2013-05-21 05:50:54 PM  
I just wrote one for a coworker this morning, so getting a kick out of these replies.
(he didn't even thank me, so maybe i didn't say what he wanted me to say).
 
2013-05-21 06:10:12 PM  

caddisfly: DeaH: What's the deal with Fark choosing key words out of posts and linking them to ads. I turned off my Ad Blocker for Fark, but this is seriously making me consider turning it back on.

Happened to me last week.  It's malware.  Check your downloaded program files.  I downloaded an e-mail reader program from CNET and it was bundled with a ton of malware and other garbage.  In my case simply deleting the programs did the trick.


Thanks. It's incredibly annoying. I did download an update from CNET not that long ago. They used to be a pretty clean resource.
 
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2013-05-21 07:45:56 PM  
I have a lawyer connection on LinkedIn and she never endorsed me for anything.
 
2013-05-21 08:36:58 PM  

Jekylman: TheSelphie: rubi_con_man: The solution for this is simple : Chain of trust.

So someone who is in software engineering (has held a job doing it) should be 'weighted' more strongly than someone who simply knows you (like your parents) and don't work in the field. I know that I am much more careful with who I endorse with *MY* skill set. Similarly, my technical peers are careful about just what they mention others can do.

Agreed.  My dad "endorsed" me for something even though we aren't even in the same industry.  It's kind of embarrassing.

My mom did exactly the same thing AND asked for a professional connection. She's retired and apparently bored. I had to tell her "This isn't Facebook".


At least my dad is still working and has a reason to be on the site.  I just don't get why there are stay at home moms and shiat on there.
 
2013-05-21 09:57:31 PM  
How DARE you compliment me professionally!  I see YOU in COURT!
 
2013-05-21 10:22:00 PM  
I was just talking with a coworker of mine today about this.... it's annoying when as a IT guy you see one of your sales people being endorsed for "Penetration testing" or "SQL", specially when a few hours before that sales people asks you "how does that squirrel database thing work out?"
 
2013-05-21 11:28:23 PM  

T.rex: I just wrote one for a coworker this morning, so getting a kick out of these replies.
(he didn't even thank me, so maybe i didn't say what he wanted me to say).


"Reccomendations" where someone that works with you has taken the time to bother to write some prose saying what you were like to work with are useful.

Clicking pop-ups that say "Does (person you've never worked with ditectly) have these skills?" Are useless crap. I have an old college buddy on LinkedIn who keeps endorsing me as have such-and-such skills when I've never worked with the guy and have exchanged a handful of words over the last 5 years.

/Writing up a reccomendation is a cool thing to do for a co-worker
 
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