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(YouTube)   Hard to believe but something good comes out of an interview with one of the survivors of the terrible tornado in Oklahoma   (youtube.com) divider line 25
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2013-05-21 11:21:21 AM
6 votes:
- People angry that she thanked God
- People saying she's dumb for living in an area with weather
- People claiming it's faked
- People upset that the reporter asked her questions

It's a good day for anyone playing Fark cynic Bingo
2013-05-21 09:49:14 AM
6 votes:
For god's sake man.  She's an old woman.  Put the camera down and help her get the dog out.
2013-05-21 10:00:47 AM
4 votes:

blatz514: ArgusRun: For god's sake man.  She's an old woman.  Put the camera down and help her get the dog out.

I heard some dude this morning saying while he was videoing the damage he could hear people screaming for help.  Did he stop to help...nope.


I have some level of understanding for the professionals.  They are trained and have it beaten into their heads to keep filming.  Keep the camera on and pointed at the action.  That what they are doing is almost as important (albeit in a different way) as the rescuers.  And when you read some of the stories of famous photos and their photographers (the famine vulture photo being the most well known) and read about the anguish and turmoil they feel afterwards, I sympathize.  I really do.

But... Even the military has strove to teach balance to it's soldiers (lawful vs unlawful orders, respecting non-combatants)  A modern military can''t just be hack and slash anymore.  They need to turn off one type of training and go into another depending on the situation.  Why can't broadcast journalism do the same?  There is a time when your reporting is critical and worthwhile, and there is a time when ou put down the camera and take on a different role.

What got me yesterday was interviewing children.  There is ZERO journalistic importance in a 8 year old telling the world on camera how scared he was and every chance that forcing him into such a spotlight could be emotionally damaging.  Even with parental consent.  Just don't do it.
2013-05-21 09:52:29 AM
3 votes:

BowtoMogul: That dog was literally at her feet, she must not have been looking too hard.

Hell with it being that close and the camera going right to it, it might be a total set up.


Or it heard her talk and made it's way under the rubble toward her.

I know what I choose to believe.
2013-05-21 12:25:08 PM
2 votes:

JellyDoughnut: mongbiohazard: That's a cool story! Glad the poochie came out OK.

This however is not as cool
'Well I thought God had just answered one prayer to let me be OK, but he answered both of them, because this was my second prayer.'

Guess that god could give a shiat about 51 other people though, huh? What a bastard he must be.


Let it be, mate. Whether you are right or wrong, this was about her and her idea of a miracle.

/Does not claim to understand everything, including the workings of the universe or a bigger plan.  I figure one day we will find out for sure and until then I'll just keep an open mind.
//shrug



I believe you and I are members of the same club, sir.
2013-05-21 12:15:03 PM
2 votes:

mongbiohazard: That's a cool story! Glad the poochie came out OK.

This however is not as cool
'Well I thought God had just answered one prayer to let me be OK, but he answered both of them, because this was my second prayer.'

Guess that god could give a shiat about 51 other people though, huh? What a bastard he must be.



Let it be, mate. Whether you are right or wrong, this was about her and her idea of a miracle.

/Does not claim to understand everything, including the workings of the universe or a bigger plan.  I figure one day we will find out for sure and until then I'll just keep an open mind.
//shrug
2013-05-21 11:42:10 AM
2 votes:
That is beautiful. God is great.
2013-05-21 10:15:03 AM
2 votes:
There was a break in the video. Some time passed between the interview and finding the dog. Looks like they were just filming additional shots when they came across the dog, and just backed up a bit to just before the dog was found. Could have been several minutes between the interview and locating the animal. They were probably helping her look for it, hoping for exactly the result they got.
2013-05-21 09:51:35 AM
2 votes:

BowtoMogul: That dog was literally at her feet, she must not have been looking too hard.

Hell with it being that close and the camera going right to it, it might be a total set up.


Are you going with the CBS news reporter burying the dog on purpose or are you going with the equally improbable and absurd idea that the old woman helped bury it to get on TV?
2013-05-21 09:50:09 AM
2 votes:
That dog was literally at her feet, she must not have been looking too hard.

Hell with it being that close and the camera going right to it, it might be a total set up.
2013-05-21 08:54:42 PM
1 votes:

OregonVet: That is beautiful. God is great.


What about god letting it happen in the first place? Was he great then?

 It's like god taking a hundred bucks out of your wallet and then thanking him for giving ten of it back

/religious people only see what they want to see
//religion is a sham
2013-05-21 02:57:56 PM
1 votes:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I always have to laugh at this argument. IF God exists (and I don't know if he/she/it does) then consider this: just how relatively important in the general scheme of eternity would be the lives of even a million people lost in a disaster? Our span of life and whether we get killed in a disaster is irrelevant and immaterial compared to the supposed eternity in Heaven. If God exists then surely this must be his perspective on things. Think about it.


I have and you have just described a truly monstrous being. Additionally, that view is contradicted quite thoroughly by the mythology itself.

If our lives here are so immaterial to it then why would it be so interested in micromanaging the mundane minutia of our lives? Why would anything we do here on Earth matter at all, and how come everyone isn't getting in to heaven regardless of what they do? So according to your view it matters when it's convenient for supporting the mythology, but doesn't matter when it isn't.

Ever read the bible? We're pretty much all supposed to be stoned to death, because almost no one isn't violating some tenant of it - which requires a death sentence - at any given time. Cut your beard? Death. Ever talked back to your parents? Death. Any one single person in your city not a follower of Jehova? Death to EVERYONE, down to the babies and livestock, pile the bodies in the center of town along with their possessions, set fire to it all and leave the smoldering war crime as a warning to others. And don't even start on the slavery... That asshole in the sky never even has had the common decency to issue a "Sorry about that! Should have said something at the time!" about slavery. We here on Earth have managed to, but this deity can't seem to. In fact, he's been oddly silent since the events described in the compendium of the mythology. Hey, come to think of it... ALL gods have been oddly silent when we're actually listening. Strange, huh?
2013-05-21 12:21:27 PM
1 votes:

HotIgneous Intruder: I have to question the logic, sanity, and intelligence of building thousands of houses in a place called TORNADO ALLEY. Also of not having full tornado basement shelters in all the schools and having them required by code for all the houses.
People are surprised when this happens again ... and again?
How much are these kids' lives worth?
God can't protect us from being stupid.


Compare and contrast to New Orleans (building on a below-sea-level flood plain), almost anywhere in California (building on earthquake faults), and anywhere in Florida or, to a lesser degree, along the East Coast (hurricanes).  People gotta live somewhere, and it is part of human nature to think that "it can't/won't happen to me" because, otherwise, you would really wouldn't want to leave the womb.

Where do YOU live?
2013-05-21 12:07:19 PM
1 votes:

OregonVet: That is beautiful. God is great.


Unless you're the parent of one of the 20 or so kids that were killed. I'm sure they have some choice words for God's selection on sparing a pup over a child.
2013-05-21 11:57:23 AM
1 votes:
Picture from Joplin

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2013-05-21 10:55:37 AM
1 votes:
Man, if only that dog had a tornado proof dog house made from 2 foot thick unobtanium and he was trained well enough to seek refuge there during severe weather, they would have known exactly where to look. Clearly they should move to Mexico, just to be safe.
GBB
2013-05-21 10:32:55 AM
1 votes:
Is THIS your dog??!!!

/magic
2013-05-21 10:26:54 AM
1 votes:

mongbiohazard: That's a cool story! Glad the poochie came out OK.

This however is not as cool
'Well I thought God had just answered one prayer to let me be OK, but he answered both of them, because this was my second prayer.'

Guess that god could give a shiat about 51 other people though, huh? What a bastard he must be.


Not now, dude.  I agree with your sentiment, but let "it" go for just a bit.  We can get back to "discussions" later.
2013-05-21 10:23:25 AM
1 votes:
That's a cool story! Glad the poochie came out OK.

This however is not as cool
'Well I thought God had just answered one prayer to let me be OK, but he answered both of them, because this was my second prayer.'

Guess that god could give a shiat about 51 other people though, huh? What a bastard he must be.
2013-05-21 10:13:04 AM
1 votes:

ArgusRun: BowtoMogul: That dog was literally at her feet, she must not have been looking too hard.

Hell with it being that close and the camera going right to it, it might be a total set up.

Or it heard her talk and made it's way under the rubble toward her.


THIS (#3 scenario) ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

As far as the reporters not helping, I agree that most are just too dispassionate. On the other hand, some places could have had official searchers preparing to systematically go through the rubble in a way that would be safe for both rescuers and rescued and the reporter would be in the way.
2013-05-21 10:04:20 AM
1 votes:

blatz514: ArgusRun: For god's sake man.  She's an old woman.  Put the camera down and help her get the dog out.

I heard some dude this morning saying while he was videoing the damage he could hear people screaming for help.  Did he stop to help...nope.


There was as local reporter yesterday saying she hadn't been sending out video because she and her cameraman were helping search the rubble and were there when they started pulling bodies out. She looked like she was going to start crying on national tv.

/Not all reporters are assholes I guess.
2013-05-21 10:04:08 AM
1 votes:
I have to question the logic, sanity, and intelligence of building thousands of houses in a place called TORNADO ALLEY. Also of not having full tornado basement shelters in all the schools and having them required by code for all the houses.
People are surprised when this happens again ... and again?
How much are these kids' lives worth?
God can't protect us from being stupid.
2013-05-21 09:52:49 AM
1 votes:
FAKE
2013-05-21 09:51:53 AM
1 votes:

ArgusRun: For god's sake man.  She's an old woman.  Put the camera down and help her get the dog out.


I heard some dude this morning saying while he was videoing the damage he could hear people screaming for help.  Did he stop to help...nope.
2013-05-21 09:49:12 AM
1 votes:
That tornado is kicking up a lot of dust in here.
 
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