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2013-05-21 08:43:56 AM  
Somewhere Dan Rather is sipping a scotch and smirking. Looks like he'll have a drinking buddy soon.
 
2013-05-21 08:47:17 AM  
The Benghazi coverage has been the media equivalent of antiaircraft chaff. There are so many strips of bullshiat floating through the air that it overwhelms my limited scandal radar.
 
2013-05-21 08:52:24 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The Benghazi coverage has been the media equivalent of antiaircraft chaff. There are so many strips of bullshiat floating through the air that it overwhelms my limited scandal radar.


That's just what Obama wants you to think so you don't question the coverup.
 
2013-05-21 08:55:43 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The Benghazi coverage has been the media equivalent of antiaircraft chaff.


I've been trying to understand this story for six months and I still have no idea what the president is supposed to have done that was scandalous. I mean, OK; he's being blamed for the deaths, but... why, exactly? Nobody gave Bush a hundredth the heat for any of the numerous embassy and consulate attacks that occurred when he was president.
 
2013-05-21 08:58:33 AM  

Gunther: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The Benghazi coverage has been the media equivalent of antiaircraft chaff.

I've been trying to understand this story for six months and I still have no idea what the president is supposed to have done that was scandalous. I mean, OK; he's being blamed for the deaths, but... why, exactly? Nobody gave Bush a hundredth the heat for any of the numerous embassy and consulate attacks that occurred when he was president.


Because he didn't shoot hostage negotiators over in an ICBM to get the release of the ambassador, duh!
 
2013-05-21 09:02:41 AM  
ABC heard somewhere that being shills for the Republican Party is good for ratings.

/Right Rupert?
 
2013-05-21 09:03:13 AM  
Perhaps the GOP's finest hour; concocted emails get reported as news for a "scandal" everyone knows is BS and no one cares about and now it becomes a bigger issue because their rube won't come out and say they got duped.

This ends in one of two ways:

-ABC apologizes and to save face turns out the "source" which will end up being someone from the GOP
-ABC doesn't apologize and America continues to know it isn't a scandal and not caring
 
2013-05-21 09:07:20 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Somewhere Dan Rather is sipping a scotch and smirking. Looks like he'll have a drinking buddy soon.


I doubt it.  I bet this guy continues in his job, maybe a bit damaged but largely untouched.

Liberal-biased media is the enemy of America!
 
2013-05-21 09:11:12 AM  

Kibbler: Uranus Is Huge!: Somewhere Dan Rather is sipping a scotch and smirking. Looks like he'll have a drinking buddy soon.

I doubt it.  I bet this guy continues in his job, maybe a bit damaged but largely untouched.

Liberal-biased media is the enemy of America!


Remember: IOKIYAR.
 
2013-05-21 09:11:50 AM  

Kibbler: Uranus Is Huge!: Somewhere Dan Rather is sipping a scotch and smirking. Looks like he'll have a drinking buddy soon.

I doubt it.  I bet this guy continues in his job, maybe a bit damaged but largely untouched.

Liberal-biased media is the enemy of America!


I posted with tongue firmly in cheek. This guy's got a job for life at FNC if he wants it.
 
2013-05-21 09:33:32 AM  

Gunther: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The Benghazi coverage has been the media equivalent of antiaircraft chaff.

I've been trying to understand this story for six months and I still have no idea what the president is supposed to have done that was scandalous. I mean, OK; he's being blamed for the deaths, but... why, exactly? Nobody gave Bush a hundredth the heat for any of the numerous embassy and consulate attacks that occurred when he was president.


Because he made up the idea that it was a response to a youtube video that no one had even heard of before in order to make Americans feel like it was a justified attack and not an act of terrorism.

Nevermind the facts that the first time the youtube video was mentioned in the muslim world was a few days before when an Egyptian TV talking head showed it to his audience and claimed it was a production funded by the US government, we were trying to get several protests across the Middle East under control that day and over the next week following it (the protests in Egypt and Yemen turned very violent), and the CIA initially claimed it was a reaction to the video considering a local lawyer claimed to have witnessed a protest and Ansar al-Sharia claimed their involvement was as part of the protest of the video.

No: the president knew better than anyone that it was unrelated to the video, and LIED! And people died!
 
2013-05-21 09:43:10 AM  
Has the administration apologized to Susan Rice?
 
2013-05-21 09:50:08 AM  
It amuses me that Karl hails from the same outfit that gave us Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Michelle Malkin, Rich Lowry and Laura Ingraham.

So, yeah.
 
2013-05-21 09:50:16 AM  

Skarekrough: Perhaps the GOP's finest hour; concocted emails get reported as news for a "scandal" everyone knows is BS and no one cares about and now it becomes a bigger issue because their rube won't come out and say they got duped.

This ends in one of two ways:

-ABC apologizes and to save face turns out the "source" which will end up being someone from the GOP
-ABC doesn't apologize and America continues to know it isn't a scandal and not caring


Loved Colbert's summary: that the quotation marks were valid since it was a direct quote of the source's statements about what the e-mail containes, not a direct quote of the e-mail itself, and that is quote-journalism-unquote in a nutshell. He's supposed to have Jonathan Karl on tonight; should be interesting.

Also, I really do think the alternations from the original text can honestly be defended by the fact that the e-mails were provided to the Republicans to view but not to copy the document; it's entirely possible someone confused their notes to themselves with their transcription of the content, and nothing in the edited e-mails is false it just leaves a worse impression of the State Department as if their objections were the only ones being considered at the time. Still wrong to do, and if it turns out the source was the same one to earlier turn over accurate transcriptions to Stephen Hayes it's a willful lie, but otherwise its a venial sin and not a mortal one (same as the decision to try to keep criticism of State's behavior out of the talking points; what the hell does it matter beyond being a CYA measure?)
 
2013-05-21 09:55:15 AM  

Grungehamster: No: the president knew better than anyone that it was unrelated to the video, and LIED! And people died!


Here's the thing though; even if that was true (and obviously I know you're being sarcastic), why is it a scandal?  I mean, the GOP have kept this alive for six freakin' months. Is their issue literally just that a day or two after the incident before all the facts were in the president didn'tacknowledge it was a deliberate attack?

Because even if that happened, which it didn't, it'd be the tiniest scandal in US presidential history.
 
2013-05-21 09:55:16 AM  
Many called this months ago: the only scandal regarding Benghazi, is how Republicans are trying to make it a scandal.
 
2013-05-21 09:56:49 AM  

Grungehamster: Gunther: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The Benghazi coverage has been the media equivalent of antiaircraft chaff.

I've been trying to understand this story for six months and I still have no idea what the president is supposed to have done that was scandalous. I mean, OK; he's being blamed for the deaths, but... why, exactly? Nobody gave Bush a hundredth the heat for any of the numerous embassy and consulate attacks that occurred when he was president.

Because he made up the idea that it was a response to a youtube video that no one had even heard of before in order to make Americans feel like it was a justified attack and not an act of terrorism.

Nevermind the facts that the first time the youtube video was mentioned in the muslim world was a few days before when an Egyptian TV talking head showed it to his audience and claimed it was a production funded by the US government, we were trying to get several protests across the Middle East under control that day and over the next week following it (the protests in Egypt and Yemen turned very violent), and the CIA initially claimed it was a reaction to the video considering a local lawyer claimed to have witnessed a protest and Ansar al-Sharia claimed their involvement was as part of the protest of the video.

No: the president knew better than anyone that it was unrelated to the video, and LIED! And people died!


You neglected to mention another aspect of the scandal: SEAL or special forces members (accounts vary as to which, some may claim that those involved were members of both) were ready to deploy to the consulate to stop the attack and they would have saved all four individuals there, but President Obama personally ordered them to stand down, because he did not wish for the attack -- which he had arranged through his connections with the Muslim Brotherhood -- to be stopped.
 
2013-05-21 10:02:52 AM  

Cletus C.: Has the administration apologized to Susan Rice?


Apologized for what? Not nominating her to be Secretary of State?
 
2013-05-21 10:07:42 AM  

Grungehamster: Cletus C.: Has the administration apologized to Susan Rice?

Apologized for what? Not nominating her to be Secretary of State?


Sort of. But more like the reason she wasn't nominated to be Secretary of State.
 
2013-05-21 10:19:49 AM  

Cletus C.: Grungehamster: Cletus C.: Has the administration apologized to Susan Rice?

Apologized for what? Not nominating her to be Secretary of State?

Sort of. But more like the reason she wasn't nominated to be Secretary of State.


Based on what you've seen, what did the administration do that sabotaged Susan Rice's chances? The worst I can see is leaving out mentioning that Ansar al-Sharia was a suspect and instead told her to let everyone know that the investigation was still ongoing and that all parties involved would be identified when the investigation was complete. The CIA identified the video as involved as part of the initial talking points, and no one ever denied it was a terrorist attack, just stated that the investigation was still ongoing when asked for confirmation.
 
2013-05-21 10:20:22 AM  
FTA: It is my belief this latest statement from Karl confuses rather than clarifies. Ethical transparency is not being achieved

That is the most roundabout way of calling someone a lying sack I have ever seen.
 
2013-05-21 10:22:35 AM  

Grungehamster: Because he made up the idea that it was a response to a youtube video that no one had even heard of before in order to make Americans feel like it was a justified attack and not an act of terrorism


The response was made up.  The motive, however, is still unknown.  Perhaps the CIA didn't want to spook the perpetrators, for example.

And as for the sequence of events, it went like this: people died, and then press conferences were held.
 
2013-05-21 10:25:05 AM  

Grungehamster: Cletus C.: Grungehamster: Cletus C.: Has the administration apologized to Susan Rice?

Apologized for what? Not nominating her to be Secretary of State?

Sort of. But more like the reason she wasn't nominated to be Secretary of State.

Based on what you've seen, what did the administration do that sabotaged Susan Rice's chances? The worst I can see is leaving out mentioning that Ansar al-Sharia was a suspect and instead told her to let everyone know that the investigation was still ongoing and that all parties involved would be identified when the investigation was complete. The CIA identified the video as involved as part of the initial talking points, and no one ever denied it was a terrorist attack, just stated that the investigation was still ongoing when asked for confirmation.


Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession. The CIA, Administration and State Department turned those talking points into a steaming pile of feces and told Susan Rice to go serve them to the American public.
 
2013-05-21 10:36:24 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Somewhere Dan Rather is sipping a scotch and smirking. Looks like he'll have a drinking buddy soon.


unlikely. despite what wingnuts claim in public (though many admit it in private), the media is mostly pro-GOP and anti-obama, so this will hardly be reported and will be forgotten soon.
 
2013-05-21 10:55:56 AM  

Grungehamster: He's supposed to have Jonathan Karl on tonight; should be interesting.


I'm not sure that email was from Karl. I think that was part of the joke. He's not listed on the website to be the guest
 
2013-05-21 11:20:44 AM  
When you're in the media and make a mistake or get bamboozled, people just like to watch with a confusing mix of Schadenfreude and compassion.  At least you have reel.
 
2013-05-21 11:53:37 AM  

Cletus C.: Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession. The CIA, Administration and State Department turned those talking points into a steaming pile of feces and told Susan Rice to go serve them to the American public.


if the talking points were a steaming pile of feces, you guys have been eating it up for breakfast, lunch and supper for 7 months.  You guys must like the taste.
 
2013-05-21 11:55:42 AM  

Gunther: Grungehamster: No: the president knew better than anyone that it was unrelated to the video, and LIED! And people died!

Here's the thing though; even if that was true (and obviously I know you're being sarcastic), why is it a scandal?  I mean, the GOP have kept this alive for six freakin' months. Is their issue literally just that a day or two after the incident before all the facts were in the president didn'tacknowledge it was a deliberate attack?

Because even if that happened, which it didn't, it'd be the tiniest scandal in US presidential history.


Well, they're convinced that if Obama had copped to it being a pre-planned terrorist attack, it would've derailed his "tough on terrorism" narrative and he'd have lost the election to Romney; further, his re-election campaign knew this so they intentionally obfuscated until after the election. Or something like that.

Of course, you have to think that the truth would've somehow been far more damaging to his campaign to actually believe this "conspiracy". If you don't think it would've mattered at all (like me), then the idea that it's a conspiracy seems really, REALLY dumb.
 
2013-05-21 11:58:18 AM  

YoungLochinvar: Well, they're convinced that if Obama had copped to it being a pre-planned terrorist attack, it would've derailed his "tough on terrorism" narrative and he'd have lost the election to Romney; further, his re-election campaign knew this so they intentionally obfuscated until after the election. Or something like that.


But... it DID come out that it was a pre-planned attack like the week that it happened and it didn't change anything in the polls.

I mean, I know the real reason they're screaming about this is because they're still upset they lost the election, but jesus, pick an actual scandal to scream about.
 
2013-05-21 12:01:59 PM  

Gunther: YoungLochinvar: Well, they're convinced that if Obama had copped to it being a pre-planned terrorist attack, it would've derailed his "tough on terrorism" narrative and he'd have lost the election to Romney; further, his re-election campaign knew this so they intentionally obfuscated until after the election. Or something like that.

But... it DID come out that it was a pre-planned attack like the week that it happened and it didn't change anything in the polls.

I mean, I know the real reason they're screaming about this is because they're still upset they lost the election, but jesus, pick an actual scandal to scream about.


I know, but I never said it was particularly logical. Even by conspiracy theory standards.
 
2013-05-21 12:06:56 PM  

Cletus C.: Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points


there were protests all over the middle east that day over that video. 19 different ones I believe. and yes one was in Benghazi. The fact that this attack used the protests as cover to attack the consulate is unfortunate. The fact that the CIA thought at first that they might have been related is understandable and follows logic. What doesn't follow any logic other than political grandstanding is the outrage being feigned by the right in an attempt to smear feces on Hillary and draw attention away from their embassy security budget cuts. The ambassador turned down offerings of extra security twice. deal with it.
 
2013-05-21 12:10:09 PM  

Gunther: YoungLochinvar: Well, they're convinced that if Obama had copped to it being a pre-planned terrorist attack, it would've derailed his "tough on terrorism" narrative and he'd have lost the election to Romney; further, his re-election campaign knew this so they intentionally obfuscated until after the election. Or something like that.

But... it DID come out that it was a pre-planned attack like the week that it happened and it didn't change anything in the polls.

I mean, I know the real reason they're screaming about this is because they're still upset they lost the election, but jesus, pick an actual scandal to scream about.


no the real reason is they want to assign blame for this to Hillary. and divert any scrutiny for their embassy security budget cuts.
 
2013-05-21 12:21:49 PM  

Cletus C.: Grungehamster: Cletus C.: Has the administration apologized to Susan Rice?

Apologized for what? Not nominating her to be Secretary of State?

Sort of. But more like the reason she wasn't nominated to be Secretary of State.


Giving into Republican intransigence again?  Yeah, I also wish Obama would apologize for that.
 
2013-05-21 01:17:41 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Gunther: YoungLochinvar: Well, they're convinced that if Obama had copped to it being a pre-planned terrorist attack, it would've derailed his "tough on terrorism" narrative and he'd have lost the election to Romney; further, his re-election campaign knew this so they intentionally obfuscated until after the election. Or something like that.

But... it DID come out that it was a pre-planned attack like the week that it happened and it didn't change anything in the polls.

I mean, I know the real reason they're screaming about this is because they're still upset they lost the election, but jesus, pick an actual scandal to scream about.

no the real reason is they want to assign blame for this to Hillary. and divert any scrutiny for their embassy security budget cuts.


Yeah, that's seems to be why they're continuing to run with it. But the great thing about a totally made-up scandal is that you can keep changing the details to suit your current needs!!
 
2013-05-21 01:29:44 PM  
Well, I just wanted to say that...*shuffling feet*...that...*fidgeting with tie*...Susan Rice is h-h-h-h-hot.
 
2013-05-21 02:47:15 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Gunther: YoungLochinvar: Well, they're convinced that if Obama had copped to it being a pre-planned terrorist attack, it would've derailed his "tough on terrorism" narrative and he'd have lost the election to Romney; further, his re-election campaign knew this so they intentionally obfuscated until after the election. Or something like that.

But... it DID come out that it was a pre-planned attack like the week that it happened and it didn't change anything in the polls.

I mean, I know the real reason they're screaming about this is because they're still upset they lost the election, but jesus, pick an actual scandal to scream about.

no the real reason is they want to assign blame for this to Hillary. and divert any scrutiny for their embassy security budget cuts.


No they just want to assign blame to Hillary, who rightfully deserves some for having complete morons working for her and grossly mismanaging State Department communications w/ the CIA (Petraus gets some blame for that too).

The budget cut thing is just some idiot deflection by some lying ass Democrats trying to score political points against Republicans.  Two high level state department officials are on record saying the budget cuts had no effect; the Pickering report made a one sentence pass at it then went on for pages about how grossly mismanaged the SD security agency was and the resulting SD vs CIA slap fights.
 
2013-05-21 03:01:10 PM  
Not mine:

 ... is this real life
....yes
.... is this just fantasy?
Caught in a whargarbleslide
to escape from BENGHAZI!!!!
Open your eyes, sheeple!
Look up to Issa and seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I'm just a lib-'ral, don't need no sympathy...
Because it's Benghazi come, Benghazi go
Little lies, little known
Anyway the ni-BONG goes doesn't really matter to the GOP!
to the GOOOOPPPPPP.....
OBamaaaaaa! Just Droned a maaaaaan!
Put a hellfire to his head, now he's preachin' to the dead
OBamaaaaaa!!! Your 2nd term had juuuuust begunnnn!
And now you've gone and pissed it all awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.....
Obamaaaaa!!!! OoooooOOOOOooooooOOOOOH! You didn't mean to make us cry!
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow. Carry on, carry on, as if Benghazi never mattered....
Too Laaate! Impeachment has come!
John Boehner's on the line, knowin' him he's likely cryin'....
Let's agree everybody, Issa's got to goooooooooo
Gonna leave logic behind to fiiiind "the Truth"
Obamaaaa.... oooOOooooooo (either way this job sucks)
This job sucks and they're really coming after me
(after me) (after meeeeeeeeee)
*guitar solo*
 I see a little teabagger of a man!
Soylndra! Soylndra! Will you Derp the herpaderp?!
IRS and AP. Very very frightening me!
Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal!)
Another Scandal (Another Scandal, Rush Limbaugh!)
I am John Carney, now the press hates me
He is John Carney, from a libby state!
Spare him this life from this blood-thirsty press!
Scandal come, scandal go, well Fox let it go...?
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let it goooo!)
BENGHAZI NO, WE WILL NOT LET IT GO!
(Let me goooo!)
WILL NOT LET HIM GO, WILL NOT LET HIM GO (Never)
No, no, no, no, no, nooooo
Oh right-wing media, right-wing media, right-wing media let this go
It won't be long before the GOP wants to impeach, Impeach, IMPEEEEEEACH!
*Change in tempo*
So you think you can impeach me and spit in spit in my eye?
So you think you can loath me and leave me to die?
Oh GOP - Can't do this to me GOP
Just gotta get out - Just gotta get Obamacare implemented!
Ohh yeah, Oohh yeah,
Nothing really matters,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really matters,
Nothing really matters...to the GOOPPPppppppppppp
Anyway bengazi blows.....
*gong*
 
2013-05-21 03:26:02 PM  
 
2013-05-21 03:36:28 PM  

Tarkus: ABC blocking Twitter comments.


America to ABC News: Checkmate in 5 moves. Do you wish to resign?
 
2013-05-21 04:23:26 PM  

ShadowKamui: No they just want to assign blame to Hillary, who rightfully deserves some for having complete morons working for her and grossly mismanaging State Department communications w/ the CIA (Petraus gets some blame for that too).


They weren't perfect, nothing is. But that's a far cry from "grossly mismanaged."
 
2013-05-21 05:18:10 PM  

Cletus C.: Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession. The CIA, Administration and State Department turned those talking points into a steaming pile of feces and told Susan Rice to go serve them to the American public.


Even you're not crazy enough to actually believe that the gibberish you just posted is anywhere close to a reasonable argument. Just stop it; have some farking self-respect.
 
2013-05-21 05:30:41 PM  

impaler: ShadowKamui: No they just want to assign blame to Hillary, who rightfully deserves some for having complete morons working for her and grossly mismanaging State Department communications w/ the CIA (Petraus gets some blame for that too).

They weren't perfect, nothing is. But that's a far cry from "grossly mismanaged."


Pickering's report was pretty damning (at least on the lower rung monkeys) about how the State and the CIA were interacting.  Basically it comes down to how much do you blame the boss for screw-ups by the idiot underlings.
 
2013-05-21 05:37:30 PM  

Biological Ali: Cletus C.: Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession. The CIA, Administration and State Department turned those talking points into a steaming pile of feces and told Susan Rice to go serve them to the American public.

Even you're not crazy enough to actually believe that the gibberish you just posted is anywhere close to a reasonable argument. Just stop it; have some farking self-respect.


You know, I've seen this tact from you before. Seems to be a specialty of yours. Offer up something derisive without addressing specifics, then claim the poster is embarrassing himself or some variation of that.

No worries, I'm good.
 
2013-05-21 05:54:45 PM  

Cletus C.: Biological Ali: Cletus C.: Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession. The CIA, Administration and State Department turned those talking points into a steaming pile of feces and told Susan Rice to go serve them to the American public.

Even you're not crazy enough to actually believe that the gibberish you just posted is anywhere close to a reasonable argument. Just stop it; have some farking self-respect.

You know, I've seen this tact from you before. Seems to be a specialty of yours. Offer up something derisive without addressing specifics, then claim the poster is embarrassing himself or some variation of that.

No worries, I'm good.


It still does not explain your bizarre conspiracy of yours. What IS the conspiracy, and why is it so "Bad"? You and the GOP's position is based entirely on "IF".
 
2013-05-21 06:08:55 PM  

Cletus C.: You know, I've seen this tact from you before. Seems to be a specialty of yours. Offer up something derisive without addressing specifics, then claim the poster is embarrassing himself or some variation of that.


You said this:

Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession.

I did address it specifically; I specifically reasoned that you're not actually retarded enough to have said something like this in seriousness. Now, if you want me to believe that you are in fact retarded enough, you're going to have to work much harder than you are. For instance, if you were to start off with the (perfectly correct) observation that the original talking points never mentioned the death of Ambassador Stevens, and then went to claim that any mention of Stevens by the administration was "just an after-the-fact weird obsession" (rather than a reference to something that is common knowledge), that would be a good start.

What you're doing right now isn't working. It's very hard to believe that you've got a mental illness, some defect in your ability to reason, that is specific not only to this one scandal but to this one specific aspect of this one specific scandal.
 
2013-05-21 06:44:35 PM  

Wessoman: Cletus C.: Biological Ali: Cletus C.: Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession. The CIA, Administration and State Department turned those talking points into a steaming pile of feces and told Susan Rice to go serve them to the American public.

Even you're not crazy enough to actually believe that the gibberish you just posted is anywhere close to a reasonable argument. Just stop it; have some farking self-respect.

You know, I've seen this tact from you before. Seems to be a specialty of yours. Offer up something derisive without addressing specifics, then claim the poster is embarrassing himself or some variation of that.

No worries, I'm good.

It still does not explain your bizarre conspiracy of yours. What IS the conspiracy, and why is it so "Bad"? You and the GOP's position is based entirely on "IF".


Sorry, don't have a conspiracy theory.
 
2013-05-21 06:46:40 PM  

Biological Ali: Cletus C.: You know, I've seen this tact from you before. Seems to be a specialty of yours. Offer up something derisive without addressing specifics, then claim the poster is embarrassing himself or some variation of that.

You said this:

Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession.

I did address it specifically; I specifically reasoned that you're not actually retarded enough to have said something like this in seriousness. Now, if you want me to believe that you are in fact retarded enough, you're going to have to work much harder than you are. For instance, if you were to start off with the (perfectly correct) observation that the original talking points never mentioned the death of Ambassador Stevens, and then went to claim that any mention of Stevens by the administration was "just an after-the-fact weird obsession" (rather than a reference to something that is common knowledge), that would be a good start.

What you're doing right now isn't working. It's very hard to believe that you've got a mental illness, some defect in your ability to reason, that is specific not only to this one scandal but to this one specific aspect of this one specific scandal.


If that was an effort to come off as less condescending I'm not sure it worked.
 
2013-05-21 06:58:02 PM  

Cletus C.: If that was an effort to come off as less condescending I'm not sure it worked.


Every possible "specific" misunderstanding that may have prompted you to make that original bizarre comment (variations of which you've made in several threads now) was addressed in a post made long before I got to this thread, and which - unsurprisingly - remains unanswered. You couldn't make it more obvious that you're just threadshiatting; the only reason your posts are even still here is due to the fact that the site's stated policy about trolling is more of a polite suggestion than an actual rule (though to be fair, there are far worse tolls posting freely, so as far as transgressions go, this isn't the worst).

I myself have no interest in making posts that 1) are redundant repetitions of things that others have already said, and 2) won't be responded to anyway. Indeed, the only reason I'm still replying is due to mild curiosity over the fact that I might actually be talking to somebody with some serious mental illnesses.
 
2013-05-21 06:59:49 PM  

Wessoman: Cletus C.: Biological Ali: Cletus C.: Ugh. The CIA did not mention the video. The demonstrations in Egypt were mentioned, which were apparently in reaction to the video but the video was not specifically part of the Benghazi talking points. Just an after-the-fact weird obsession. The CIA, Administration and State Department turned those talking points into a steaming pile of feces and told Susan Rice to go serve them to the American public.

Even you're not crazy enough to actually believe that the gibberish you just posted is anywhere close to a reasonable argument. Just stop it; have some farking self-respect.

You know, I've seen this tact from you before. Seems to be a specialty of yours. Offer up something derisive without addressing specifics, then claim the poster is embarrassing himself or some variation of that.

No worries, I'm good.

It still does not explain your bizarre conspiracy of yours. What IS the conspiracy, and why is it so "Bad"? You and the GOP's position is based entirely on "IF".


Reverse Vampires? Bilderbergs?Illuminati? Lizard People? God knows those make more sense than Obama actually having anything to do with what happened in Benghazi
 
2013-05-21 09:01:10 PM  

Cletus C.: Sorry, don't have a conspiracy theory.


And this is exactly why Benghazi is not a scandal. I'm glad we agree, at last.
 
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