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(Talking Points Memo)   OK Sen. Tom Coburn (R-heartless): No disaster aid for my constituents until budget cuts are made to compensate   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 41
    More: Asinine, GOP, austerities, disaster aid, Oklahoma City Bombing, Superstorm Sandy, tornadoes  
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2013-05-21 07:34:47 AM  
4 votes:
This is what they voted for.

Frankly I don't see why they should even be provided rescuers until we get to the bottom of this Benghazi thing.
2013-05-21 07:16:44 AM  
3 votes:
At least he's consistent, in a fiscally sound sociopathic way.
2013-05-21 10:21:51 AM  
2 votes:
I plan to send Oklahomans a set of bootstraps to help them recover from the disaster.
2013-05-21 09:17:10 AM  
2 votes:

GoldSpider: Uranus Is Huge!: So true. I've always found the aftermath of natural disasters mass shootings that include loss of life to be the best time to lessons on fiscal responsibility gun control. If you wait until all of the bodies are found, you've waited too long.

Indeed.


The wrong time for talk about gun control:  Right after a mass shooting
The wrong time for talk about gun control:  When there hasn't been a mass shooting for a while
The right time to talk about gun control: One divided by zero

The right time to talk about fiscal responsibility:  Right after a natural disaster
The right time to talk about fiscal responsibility:  When there hasn't been a natural disaster for a while
The wrong time to talk about fiscal responsibility:  Bill to build tanks the Pentagon doesn't want
2013-05-21 09:12:41 AM  
2 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com
2013-05-21 09:09:11 AM  
2 votes:

skullkrusher: Hobodeluxe: GoldSpider: NateGrey: Watching Mother Nature beat up Republicans and their philosophy is always fun.

That's not sociopathic at all.

no more than voting for a party that wants to take food out of the mouths of babies.

That's it. Fark has to change its name to tuquoque.com

That is pretty much the ONLY argument type ever made these days.


Well, what's left when logic, reason and empirical data are off the table?
2013-05-21 08:59:02 AM  
2 votes:
Watching Mother Nature beat up Republicans and their philosophy is always fun.
2013-05-21 07:36:31 AM  
2 votes:
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

"Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."

/f'ing career politician against government
//ass cancer, please get it
2013-05-21 07:27:09 AM  
2 votes:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: At least he's consistent, in a fiscally sound sociopathic way.


FTFY
2013-05-20 11:49:27 PM  
2 votes:
Yet he had no problems trying to strip nearly all disaster aid from the East Coast last year.  Pathetic douchebag.


/submitted to News tab, just for the extra exposure potential
//one of the few times that's called for, imo
2013-05-21 02:49:02 PM  
1 votes:
Tune in tomorrow when Tom Coburn's approval rating sinks to unprecedented depths...
2013-05-21 02:00:18 PM  
1 votes:
Actually, I happen to agree with Senator Coburn.   I believe the federal government should immediately shut down this place, which will more than adequately cover for the expenses of tornado clean up...

Then this place can go away
2013-05-21 10:34:14 AM  
1 votes:
I'll translate what Senator Coburn means:

We should give millions in disaster aid to Oklahoma, but only if use that emergency aid as an excuse forcutting programs thatbenefit the poor and minorities.
2013-05-21 09:26:05 AM  
1 votes:

Baryogenesis: Why is disaster spending something that needs to be off set with cuts elsewhere?  Why not raise taxes or have a dedicated tax for disaster relief?  It just sounds like another excuse to pander to the tea party and cut funding for stuff the GOP doesn't like, just like every other time they've brought up the budget since 2009.  l believe the GOP is serious about the budget when they include cuts to defense and/or tax increases on anyone but poor people

Disaster relief should be one thing that we just pay for because we need to help our citizens.


Look man, you don't just come into a thread when it's halfway over and state a logical proposition. You need to read half of it, pick a target, and respond angrily if you're going to get any traction around here.
2013-05-21 09:01:48 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: NateGrey: Watching Mother Nature beat up Republicans and their philosophy is always fun.

That's not sociopathic at all.


When it comes to Republicans the correct word is Schadenfreude.
2013-05-21 08:40:17 AM  
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: I've read you're posts for a few years now. You're better than this.


I DID limit the direction of my comments to the partisans.

And I also acknowledged upthread that I thought Coburn is being a dick about this.
2013-05-21 08:39:09 AM  
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: GoldSpider: This will be in the news for the next week or so. Takes the news cycle attention away from the IRS, AP snooping and intimidating reporters.

nah the today show has already ran those stories this morning too. I'm guessing they won't be the main focus of attention but they are still giving them lip service once an hour.


We have 51 dead Americans. What difference at this point does it make?
2013-05-21 08:36:18 AM  
1 votes:
Remember folks, being morally consistent isn't the same as being consistently moral.
2013-05-21 08:30:43 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: This storm is, without a doubt, the best thing to happen to Democratic partisans in weeks.  It's impossible that they're going to let this opportunity go to waste.


The corollary to this is that Darrell Issa will have to masturbate in private for a few days.
2013-05-21 08:30:26 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: This storm is, without a doubt, the best thing to happen to Democratic partisans in weeks.  It's impossible that they're going to let this opportunity go to waste.


no not the storm. Coburn's asshattery.
2013-05-21 08:26:55 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Almost Everybody Poops: skullkrusher: Spaz-master: HotWingConspiracy: Spaz-master: Dracolich: Spaz-master: It's amazing how many of the respondents didn't RTFA and only this flametatic headline.

FTFA "Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn will seek to offset federal aid to victims of amassive tornado that blasted through Oklahoma City suburbs on Monday with cuts elsewhere in the budget. "

Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?

It's about priorities.  Right now, there are potentially still people trapped in rubble waiting to be rescued.  He's concerned about a political agenda.  It's like having a fire chief ask about your personal finances to pay for their visit while they're putting out your fire.  We all know it needs to be paid for, but perhaps his head should be in the game.

Perhaps, but he made this statement in response to the question about it... So wouldn't the member of the press be the Supreme Ultra Douche in this case, not the person who responded honestly?

Yeah man, the press is totally at fault for Coburn's policies.

So responding with a "Yes, we will offset this spending as before" is the heartless aspect, not the press member who inflamed something so obvious.  Do you also get angered when people point out that water is wet and that the sky is blue?  How heartless of them.

maybe they saw how fun scandalizin' was and want to find one of their very own.
Coburn spokesman asked a question about disaster aid. Spokesman says that Coburn's position is that disaster aid should be offset by cuts elsewhere. ZOMG WHY DOES HE WANT TO LEAVE CHILDREN BURIED IN THE RUBBBBBBBLES?!

I think his position is reasonable, just that he could phrased in a better way, as if offsetting the spending wasn't on the same level of priorities as disaster relief.

Sure he could have. So that's the story? Coburn's spokesman is a dick for not deflec ...


No, I think the headline is overly dramatic and sensational (on fark? really??).  And context is key, I dunno if the quote in the article was just after he expressed deep thoughts and feelings for those affected, like Jack Handey.  I guess my point is.... well....

Fark.
2013-05-21 08:21:47 AM  
1 votes:

Almost Everybody Poops: skullkrusher: Spaz-master: HotWingConspiracy: Spaz-master: Dracolich: Spaz-master: It's amazing how many of the respondents didn't RTFA and only this flametatic headline.

FTFA "Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn will seek to offset federal aid to victims of amassive tornado that blasted through Oklahoma City suburbs on Monday with cuts elsewhere in the budget. "

Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?

It's about priorities.  Right now, there are potentially still people trapped in rubble waiting to be rescued.  He's concerned about a political agenda.  It's like having a fire chief ask about your personal finances to pay for their visit while they're putting out your fire.  We all know it needs to be paid for, but perhaps his head should be in the game.

Perhaps, but he made this statement in response to the question about it... So wouldn't the member of the press be the Supreme Ultra Douche in this case, not the person who responded honestly?

Yeah man, the press is totally at fault for Coburn's policies.

So responding with a "Yes, we will offset this spending as before" is the heartless aspect, not the press member who inflamed something so obvious.  Do you also get angered when people point out that water is wet and that the sky is blue?  How heartless of them.

maybe they saw how fun scandalizin' was and want to find one of their very own.
Coburn spokesman asked a question about disaster aid. Spokesman says that Coburn's position is that disaster aid should be offset by cuts elsewhere. ZOMG WHY DOES HE WANT TO LEAVE CHILDREN BURIED IN THE RUBBBBBBBLES?!

I think his position is reasonable, just that he could phrased in a better way, as if offsetting the spending wasn't on the same level of priorities as disaster relief.


Sure he could have. So that's the story? Coburn's spokesman is a dick for not deflecting a question? OK I guess
2013-05-21 08:17:39 AM  
1 votes:
Liberals: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

Republicans: Me. It's all about me.
2013-05-21 08:14:49 AM  
1 votes:

Electrify: The saddest part is that Oklahoma will still vote Republican despite this.


I'm really torn on this issue. On one hand I have very real compassion for the people who's lived have been shattered by yesterdays storm. On the other, I'd like to see the people of Oklahoma get precisely the level of government that they've been demanding.

Pro Tip, Oklahoma: A federal government that you can drown in a bathtub can't help you rebuild your home and business when they're taken to Oz.
2013-05-21 08:13:12 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Satanic_Hamster: Fine.  I'm sure we can find budget cuts of Federal spending in Oklahoma to compensate.

yeah! Fark those poor and needy in OK! That'll show Coburn!

This is why you people aren't nearly as wise or compassionate as you like to tell each other you are.


Wait.  So you're saying that Senator Coburn, the Tea Party, and Republicans in general aren't compassionate or wise?  Because this is the sort of idea that they've been embracing and voting for in near lockstep the past few years.  You recall the rage from Rep. King over all the other Republicans blocking aid to NY?

Oklahoma elected Coburn.  They obviously approve of his ideas.  Why should people of other states have to pay with money and jobs to make up for what happens in Oklahoma?  The entire state didn't get destroyed, surely we can find federal cuts else where in the state to pay for the disaster recovery in the small portion that did.
2013-05-21 08:12:17 AM  
1 votes:
What the folks in Oklahoma need are more tax cuts.  That'll get this whole thing sorted out.
2013-05-21 08:12:12 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Hobodeluxe: skullkrusher: Satanic_Hamster: Fine.  I'm sure we can find budget cuts of Federal spending in Oklahoma to compensate.

yeah! Fark those poor and needy in OK! That'll show Coburn!

This is why you people aren't nearly as wise or compassionate as you like to tell each other you are.

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"

care to elaborate on that or are you pretty sure you've already said enough?


No I think that works really well on a couple of levels.

see it paraphrases the old adage "you get the govt you deserve" on one level
and on the other it ties it into the current situation these people are in.

do you not think that voting against your own interests should ever have a cost?
not very bootstrappy of you.

and yes my heart goes out to those people. and yes I'm being sarcastic. but I revel in pointing out people's hypocrisy.
especially when it bites them in the ass so hard.
2013-05-21 08:06:07 AM  
1 votes:
He had to choose between being heartless and being hypocritical.
2013-05-21 08:05:19 AM  
1 votes:

Giant Clown Shoe: [wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 594x425]

"Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."

/f'ing career politician against government
//ass cancer, please get it


Technically he's also a gynecologist who seems to know nothing about women.
2013-05-21 08:05:03 AM  
1 votes:
Something something something government you deserve.
2013-05-21 07:53:56 AM  
1 votes:
Well, at least he's consistent.
2013-05-21 07:53:41 AM  
1 votes:

Spaz-master: It's amazing how many of the respondents didn't RTFA and only this flametatic headline.

FTFA "Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn will seek to offset federal aid to victims of amassive tornado that blasted through Oklahoma City suburbs on Monday with cuts elsewhere in the budget. "

Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?


www.cyclonefanatic.com
2013-05-21 07:50:34 AM  
1 votes:

Spaz-master: Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?


In the grand scheme of things, disaster aid isn't going to impact the budget at all, and would provide the immediate assistance these people need.  It's a silly thing for him to dig his heels in on.

That said, this business of equating different spending priorities with "terrorism" shows how far away we are from being able to debate anything rationally.
2013-05-21 07:47:51 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: Tigger: The GOP is a terrorist organisation. Support for them is treason.

/eyeroll

Always such a fine-tuned sense of perspective.


I'm sensing unwarranted sarcasm.
2013-05-21 07:44:19 AM  
1 votes:
fark the survivors! Yay Dogma! Dogma trumps everything.
2013-05-21 07:41:00 AM  
1 votes:

Tigger: The GOP is a terrorist organisation. Support for them is treason.


/eyeroll

Always such a fine-tuned sense of perspective.
2013-05-21 07:30:21 AM  
1 votes:
soberbizzy.files.wordpress.com Republicans are assholes. News at 11.
2013-05-21 07:29:08 AM  
1 votes:
The Chinese word for Tornado means both danger *and* opportunity to make cuts to the budget.

*blink*
2013-05-21 07:26:00 AM  
1 votes:
He mentions the wars that weren't paid for...I wonder if he voted for those?
2013-05-21 07:22:58 AM  
1 votes:
Yeah, yeah, any excuse at all for layoffs.  Jobs, jobs, jobs, gotta get rid of them.
2013-05-21 07:16:22 AM  
1 votes:
Somehow, I don't think the people who voted for him are going to like this. Of course, he's retiring, and I bet with a lot more money than when he joined congress.
 
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