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(Talking Points Memo)   OK Sen. Tom Coburn (R-heartless): No disaster aid for my constituents until budget cuts are made to compensate   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 79
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2013-05-21 03:46:37 AM  
13 votes:
The GOP is a terrorist organisation. Support for them is treason.
2013-05-21 12:11:43 AM  
10 votes:
This is the mindset of today's GOP.  Millions of dollars towards useless gestures like voting to repeal Obamacare, billions of dollars fo outdated and unused military programs, but for AMERICANS that really need help?  Fark them.

And this guy is even FROM Oklahoma?  What a farking piece of shiat.
2013-05-21 07:53:32 AM  
9 votes:
The GOP will ask for budget offsets that target liberal programs, the Democrats will object and the GOP will blame them for holding up the relief funds.   The media will cover it with their simplistic "both sides are bad" treatment and the country will continue its decline.  It worked for the debt ceiling and too many people were too dumb to see through it.  It will probably work here as well.

/sigh
2013-05-21 07:37:09 AM  
6 votes:
Today's GOP is the greatest threat our country has ever faced.
2013-05-21 07:17:55 AM  
6 votes:
Offset it by confiscating his salary, and the salary of all his staffers as well as the income provided to the other OK senator, their staffers and continue on with the remove of the funds from all the house of representative person-ell and staff.

Then confiscate all their highway funds, we do not want any of them dumb farks escaping the state anyway.
2013-05-21 08:36:18 AM  
5 votes:
Remember folks, being morally consistent isn't the same as being consistently moral.
2013-05-21 08:17:39 AM  
5 votes:
Liberals: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

Republicans: Me. It's all about me.
2013-05-21 07:18:23 AM  
5 votes:
Sometimes, moral consistency is worse than hypocrisy.
2013-05-21 07:16:22 AM  
5 votes:
Somehow, I don't think the people who voted for him are going to like this. Of course, he's retiring, and I bet with a lot more money than when he joined congress.
2013-05-20 11:49:27 PM  
5 votes:
Yet he had no problems trying to strip nearly all disaster aid from the East Coast last year.  Pathetic douchebag.


/submitted to News tab, just for the extra exposure potential
//one of the few times that's called for, imo
2013-05-21 07:16:44 AM  
4 votes:
At least he's consistent, in a fiscally sound sociopathic way.
2013-05-21 12:02:17 AM  
4 votes:
This needs to be promoted.  Along with video of some of his statements.
2013-05-21 09:17:10 AM  
3 votes:

GoldSpider: Uranus Is Huge!: So true. I've always found the aftermath of natural disasters mass shootings that include loss of life to be the best time to lessons on fiscal responsibility gun control. If you wait until all of the bodies are found, you've waited too long.

Indeed.


The wrong time for talk about gun control:  Right after a mass shooting
The wrong time for talk about gun control:  When there hasn't been a mass shooting for a while
The right time to talk about gun control: One divided by zero

The right time to talk about fiscal responsibility:  Right after a natural disaster
The right time to talk about fiscal responsibility:  When there hasn't been a natural disaster for a while
The wrong time to talk about fiscal responsibility:  Bill to build tanks the Pentagon doesn't want
2013-05-21 08:12:12 AM  
3 votes:

skullkrusher: Hobodeluxe: skullkrusher: Satanic_Hamster: Fine.  I'm sure we can find budget cuts of Federal spending in Oklahoma to compensate.

yeah! Fark those poor and needy in OK! That'll show Coburn!

This is why you people aren't nearly as wise or compassionate as you like to tell each other you are.

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"

care to elaborate on that or are you pretty sure you've already said enough?


No I think that works really well on a couple of levels.

see it paraphrases the old adage "you get the govt you deserve" on one level
and on the other it ties it into the current situation these people are in.

do you not think that voting against your own interests should ever have a cost?
not very bootstrappy of you.

and yes my heart goes out to those people. and yes I'm being sarcastic. but I revel in pointing out people's hypocrisy.
especially when it bites them in the ass so hard.
2013-05-21 08:10:27 AM  
3 votes:
A rational, caring person would have answered the question, "We'll worry about that after we get these people the help and resources they need..."
2013-05-21 07:30:21 AM  
3 votes:
soberbizzy.files.wordpress.com Republicans are assholes. News at 11.
2013-05-21 07:28:35 AM  
3 votes:
People can complain about the federal government spending all they want, but this is one of the reasons why the federal government is needed.  The federal budget does not work like a household budget, and even if it did a massive emergency like this would typically see a household putting something on a credit card.

OKC and Moore need help right now.  Give it to them.
2013-05-21 07:07:12 AM  
3 votes:
The world of hyperpartisanship begets nonsense. Rank and file will support his statement.
2013-05-21 04:54:23 AM  
3 votes:
At least it's his own farking state.  'Course, he's retiring and therefore gives zero farks.
2013-05-21 03:54:25 PM  
2 votes:

skullkrusher: Dog Welder: As opposed to farking over the poor and needy everywhere else, which is what Coburn is likely aiming to do?

no, that's a bad thing. Just as cutting funding to his state to show them Okies is bad. Why is it that people think it is effective to decry someone and then in the very next breath engage in extremely similar thinking with the "lol he did it first"? Seriously, are you people 10 farking years old? Coburn pulled your hair so you're gonna pinch him?

Dog Welder: Or, as someone else above mentioned...how about we kill off some defense spending contracts in Oklahoma to pay for it?

sounds good to me. Or just defense spending in general. Why must it be localized to Oklahoma because their senator happens to be a cockbag? Oh, right. Because the people who don't think that way are just collateral damage. Brilliant. See above.

Dog Welder: Disasters like this are what deficit and discretionary spending are meant for. Sorry you can't see past the politics of it.

I've seen past he politics of it a long time ago. My observation that Fark is filled with terrible people has nothing to do with the politics of it.


I think the point of the assertion is that:

1) Coburn is a major cockbag.
2) If he wants to offset the costs of the benefits of other states to fund HIS state, he should look at his state's spending first.
3) Of course, we know Coburn won't go for this because he's a major hypocrite, which is the farking point.  (Good on you for missing it.)

Or, as I've said repeatedly in this very thread, we could be adults about this and fund this through deficit and discretionary spending, like we have in the past for every other major disaster, which is the purpose of deficit and discretionary spending.
2013-05-21 02:02:16 PM  
2 votes:
The Christian thing to do would be to get the aid to the people that need it.

The American thing to do would be to get the aid to the people that need it.

The right thing to do would be to get the aid to the people that need it.

/please feel free to point out how the above statements are incorrect.  We're waiting.
2013-05-21 08:23:56 AM  
2 votes:
How about this, why not raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for the disaster relief, instead of offsetting an already strapped budget?  Or if it's the principle, have a mix of spending cuts and tax increases.  Or how about we just send them the aid first and then worry about how to pay it later?

The fundamental point of government is to pool our resources for a common good.  The unresolved anger is that these asshats want to drown government in a bathtub and their cuts to programs like FEMA make getting aid to these folks that much more difficult.  If wanting a rationale disaster response policy that is adequately funded to appropriate levels makes me butthurt, then yes, I am pretty butthurt.

Making statements demanding offsets at this point is totally inappropriate, Coburn is being an ass.
2013-05-21 08:14:49 AM  
2 votes:

Electrify: The saddest part is that Oklahoma will still vote Republican despite this.


I'm really torn on this issue. On one hand I have very real compassion for the people who's lived have been shattered by yesterdays storm. On the other, I'd like to see the people of Oklahoma get precisely the level of government that they've been demanding.

Pro Tip, Oklahoma: A federal government that you can drown in a bathtub can't help you rebuild your home and business when they're taken to Oz.
2013-05-21 08:13:12 AM  
2 votes:

skullkrusher: Satanic_Hamster: Fine.  I'm sure we can find budget cuts of Federal spending in Oklahoma to compensate.

yeah! Fark those poor and needy in OK! That'll show Coburn!

This is why you people aren't nearly as wise or compassionate as you like to tell each other you are.


Wait.  So you're saying that Senator Coburn, the Tea Party, and Republicans in general aren't compassionate or wise?  Because this is the sort of idea that they've been embracing and voting for in near lockstep the past few years.  You recall the rage from Rep. King over all the other Republicans blocking aid to NY?

Oklahoma elected Coburn.  They obviously approve of his ideas.  Why should people of other states have to pay with money and jobs to make up for what happens in Oklahoma?  The entire state didn't get destroyed, surely we can find federal cuts else where in the state to pay for the disaster recovery in the small portion that did.
2013-05-21 07:56:31 AM  
2 votes:
There's a lot of defense spending in his state.  Let's get rid of that first.
2013-05-21 07:56:17 AM  
2 votes:

Spaz-master: It's amazing how many of the respondents didn't RTFA and only this flametatic headline.

FTFA "Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn will seek to offset federal aid to victims of amassive tornado that blasted through Oklahoma City suburbs on Monday with cuts elsewhere in the budget. "

Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?


It's about priorities.  Right now, there are potentially still people trapped in rubble waiting to be rescued.  He's concerned about a political agenda.  It's like having a fire chief ask about your personal finances to pay for their visit while they're putting out your fire.  We all know it needs to be paid for, but perhaps his head should be in the game.
2013-05-21 07:53:58 AM  
2 votes:

Spaz-master: Bookkeeping is now heartless?


Kind of, yeah.

Let's see what he wants to cut. I'm guessing it will be something that aids the poor, or otherwise disadvantaged.

He could also ask for a new tax and have his wealthy benefactors pony up some cash, but he won't.
2013-05-21 07:52:02 AM  
2 votes:
It'd be nice to see some consequences for his action......like perhaps his constituents burning his home to the farking ground.

Heavy-handed, sure, but it just seems like other messages aren't really getting through.
2013-05-21 07:50:34 AM  
2 votes:

Spaz-master: Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?


In the grand scheme of things, disaster aid isn't going to impact the budget at all, and would provide the immediate assistance these people need.  It's a silly thing for him to dig his heels in on.

That said, this business of equating different spending priorities with "terrorism" shows how far away we are from being able to debate anything rationally.
2013-05-21 07:43:54 AM  
2 votes:
The saddest part is that Oklahoma will still vote Republican despite this.
2013-05-21 07:36:31 AM  
2 votes:
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

"Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."

/f'ing career politician against government
//ass cancer, please get it
2013-05-21 07:26:38 AM  
2 votes:
Well, they voted for him...
2013-05-21 07:18:38 AM  
2 votes:

DeaH: Somehow, I don't think the people who voted for him are going to like this. Of course, he's retiring, and I bet with a lot more money than when he joined congress.


His income will probably quadruple in 2016 when the lobbying contracts start kicking in.
2013-05-21 12:16:25 PM  
1 votes:
One should consider that the following voted against even the portion of Sandy relief that was just for the National Flood Insurance payment portion. This was just the portion of the bill that would allow the people who had flood insurance to actually get paid.

Jim Bridenstine (R-OK)
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK)


However as FDR put it one should not argue with your neighbor over the price of a garden hose when his house is on fire.
2013-05-21 12:07:19 PM  
1 votes:
How about no disaster aid for OK,  you guys voted against Sandy relief aid, so now you guys can go DIAF (or tornado)
2013-05-21 11:10:17 AM  
1 votes:
Everybody in this thread is missing the real point. The real point here is that Coburn and his gang of fools don't save for a rainy day, and don't set aside money, and therefore, when they get in a crunch, they decide that they will cut from other places in the budget, whether that is budget that is going to OK, or some other region, they don't care.

But the point is, it's the exact opposite of all the moralizing they do: they don't have a plan, they just make shiat up as they go along and the rest of us pay the price.
2013-05-21 10:52:35 AM  
1 votes:
Well, I don't mean to sound callous, but why should they get any tax money? They knew what they were getting into when they foolishly chose to live in that region. It's not like nobody could see an inevitable storm tearing those flimsy, cheaply constructed buildings apart, and their houses are put right in front of danger, what the hell did they expect?


Oh, crap, my bad! I had my computer set on "Conservative Reactions to Katrina Victims" for a moment there. Isn't it strange how it was so easy to be crass to those victims? I wonder why.
2013-05-21 10:46:19 AM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Yeah, I'd just like to add that while we're understandably having a pity party for the people of Oklahoma, they voted this clown in because THEY BELIEVE THAT SHIAT, TOO. They're the same people who were rallying behind him when he did this to the people of NJ. So...yeah.


Yeah, but you know what? None of that matters right now. Give them the help they need, and later on I can laugh about how this gay atheist Liberal is a better Christian then they are. But right now they need our help.
2013-05-21 10:44:23 AM  
1 votes:

Epoch_Zero: It seems you do.They vote Republican. Heavily. As in, to the point of singularity.


Uh, you seem to have missed the part where I said "they need our help and we need to give them that help" regardless of how they vote or who they elect to office. I can't say it any clearer.
2013-05-21 10:11:09 AM  
1 votes:
If you're a Republican in 2013, there's something wrong with you.

I don't care how the people of Oklahoma vote. They need our help right now, and we need to give them that help. Argue about the budget and spending and taxes some other time.
2013-05-21 09:12:41 AM  
1 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com
2013-05-21 09:11:31 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Hobodeluxe: GoldSpider: NateGrey: Watching Mother Nature beat up Republicans and their philosophy is always fun.

That's not sociopathic at all.

no more than voting for a party that wants to take food out of the mouths of babies.

That's it. Fark has to change its name to tuquoque.com

That is pretty much the ONLY argument type ever made these days.


so when you vote to take end school lunches, cut food stamps, deny medical care etc. and to use that money to buy tanks and jets the pentagon doesn't even want that's being fiscally responsible and bootstrappy? but when someone mentions letting your own ideology punish you and that the consequences of your party's politics have repercussions that bite you on the ass it's sociopathic? got it.
2013-05-21 08:55:59 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: Monkeyhouse Zendo: You might also want to acknowledge that what these horrible partisan democrats are proposing is that we give OK precisely what they've been demanding for the last three decades. The people of OK are not children and there is no reason that we should treat them as such.

On the other hand, this could be a teachable moment to the people of Oklahoma about the role and ability of the federal government in a limited crisis.  But considering they already receive $1.35 of funding for every dollar they contribute, perhaps my optimism is undue.


If the people of Oklahoma could be taught, they wouldn't live in f$cking Oklahoma.
2013-05-21 08:51:26 AM  
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: You might also want to acknowledge that what these horrible partisan democrats are proposing is that we give OK precisely what they've been demanding for the last three decades. The people of OK are not children and there is no reason that we should treat them as such.


On the other hand, this could be a teachable moment to the people of Oklahoma about the role and ability of the federal government in a limited crisis.  But considering they already receive $1.35 of funding for every dollar they contribute, perhaps my optimism is undue.
2013-05-21 08:51:01 AM  
1 votes:

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That being said, I do not approve of punishing people for the sin of voting Republican, nor do I like the idea that our already weak social contact will be further degraded to pay for this tragedy, further compounding our tragedy. It's a kind of sick perpetual sadness machine Coburn is attempting to construct in service to some numbers on a ledger.
He's bad, and the people that vote for such ideas are stupid, but helping stupid people without being dicks about it is something you should really strive to do, although I understand the temptation to rub noses in poo a little. But come on, a lot of these people had their homes striped to the foundation.


Elections have consequences.
2013-05-21 08:49:31 AM  
1 votes:
I just want to note that in 2013, when the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act, which was created to help the victims of Hurricane Sandy, was up for a vote in the Senate, he voted against it:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote _c fm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00004
2013-05-21 08:48:02 AM  
1 votes:

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Hobodeluxe: Satanic_Hamster: OH HO HO.

The plot thickens.

Oklahoma gets $1.35 in Federal spending for every dollar they receive in taxes.

This is a leach state.  An entire state of takers.

Yeah, we can definitely find cuts in Federal spending in this state to offset the disaster aid.

and they use that tax deficit to lure jobs from blue states.

Have you been to Oklahoma? That plan is clearly not working.

That being said, I do not approve of punishing people for the sin of voting Republican, nor do I like the idea that our already weak social contact will be further degraded to pay for this tragedy, further compounding our tragedy. It's a kind of sick perpetual sadness machine Coburn is attempting to construct in service to some numbers on a ledger.
He's bad, and the people that vote for such ideas are stupid, but helping stupid people without being dicks about it is something you should really strive to do, although I understand the temptation to rub noses in poo a little. But come on, a lot of these people had their homes striped to the foundation.


did you not see the post where I said that I was being sarcastic and only teasing the republicans here on this thread? I sent off a pretty sizable donation (for me anyway) to the Salvation Army in Norman and to the Red Cross yesterday evening. And I'm one of those heartless,godless atheist libby libs. I just think that people need to own up to the real world consequences of their politics
2013-05-21 08:40:17 AM  
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: I've read you're posts for a few years now. You're better than this.


I DID limit the direction of my comments to the partisans.

And I also acknowledged upthread that I thought Coburn is being a dick about this.
2013-05-21 08:39:13 AM  
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: GoldSpider: This storm is, without a doubt, the best thing to happen to Democratic partisans in weeks.  It's impossible that they're going to let this opportunity go to waste.

I've read you're posts for a few years now. You're better than this.

We're going to ensure that OK gets the disaster relief it needs regardless of whether, as a state, they've been working to deny that sort of aid to other states. That's how the US works, whether they like it or not. If Coburn wants to be a dick and require that the aid be offset by budget cuts then I see no reason why OK shouldn't bear the burden of those cuts.


I would find it hilarious if those budget offsets came from Oklahoma itself. "You can have some crop subsidies or a wide scale rescue and relief effort." I would absolutely love to see that public debate.
2013-05-21 08:36:20 AM  
1 votes:
So wait... tragedy occurs due to gunman and "too soon to talk about gun legislation."

But a natural disaster occurs and inmediately "we need to cut the budget to pay relief efforts."
2013-05-21 08:34:16 AM  
1 votes:
Wow, I was going to make a joke about this today but this guy came out and actually said it. His own constituents, too. At least he puts his money where his mouth is, but OK richly deserves to have aid held up for a couple of months because of this dude's asshattery (for being stupid enough to elect him), and then he needs to lose his job. He's certainly handing his opponents a bunch of ammunition for the next election.
2013-05-21 08:30:26 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: This storm is, without a doubt, the best thing to happen to Democratic partisans in weeks.  It's impossible that they're going to let this opportunity go to waste.


no not the storm. Coburn's asshattery.
2013-05-21 08:27:46 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: HotWingConspiracy: Yeah I hate democracy too. And no, it wouldn't burn Coburn, he's the one that wants it.

No, I don't hate democracy. I also don't embrace the Osama bin Laden "Vote against Bush or all of America will feel my wrath" mentality where we cavalierly talk about "government you deserve" when most elections are decided by a slim majority. Apparently some people do. That's cool.


Of course Bin Laden could have been using reverse psychology knowing how Americans would react to such a threat. But I don't see it any different than Cheney's "It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States,"

Now if bin Laden was making a terroristic threat couldn't the same be said about Cheney?
2013-05-21 08:26:55 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Almost Everybody Poops: skullkrusher: Spaz-master: HotWingConspiracy: Spaz-master: Dracolich: Spaz-master: It's amazing how many of the respondents didn't RTFA and only this flametatic headline.

FTFA "Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn will seek to offset federal aid to victims of amassive tornado that blasted through Oklahoma City suburbs on Monday with cuts elsewhere in the budget. "

Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?

It's about priorities.  Right now, there are potentially still people trapped in rubble waiting to be rescued.  He's concerned about a political agenda.  It's like having a fire chief ask about your personal finances to pay for their visit while they're putting out your fire.  We all know it needs to be paid for, but perhaps his head should be in the game.

Perhaps, but he made this statement in response to the question about it... So wouldn't the member of the press be the Supreme Ultra Douche in this case, not the person who responded honestly?

Yeah man, the press is totally at fault for Coburn's policies.

So responding with a "Yes, we will offset this spending as before" is the heartless aspect, not the press member who inflamed something so obvious.  Do you also get angered when people point out that water is wet and that the sky is blue?  How heartless of them.

maybe they saw how fun scandalizin' was and want to find one of their very own.
Coburn spokesman asked a question about disaster aid. Spokesman says that Coburn's position is that disaster aid should be offset by cuts elsewhere. ZOMG WHY DOES HE WANT TO LEAVE CHILDREN BURIED IN THE RUBBBBBBBLES?!

I think his position is reasonable, just that he could phrased in a better way, as if offsetting the spending wasn't on the same level of priorities as disaster relief.

Sure he could have. So that's the story? Coburn's spokesman is a dick for not deflec ...


No, I think the headline is overly dramatic and sensational (on fark? really??).  And context is key, I dunno if the quote in the article was just after he expressed deep thoughts and feelings for those affected, like Jack Handey.  I guess my point is.... well....

Fark.
2013-05-21 08:21:47 AM  
1 votes:

Almost Everybody Poops: skullkrusher: Spaz-master: HotWingConspiracy: Spaz-master: Dracolich: Spaz-master: It's amazing how many of the respondents didn't RTFA and only this flametatic headline.

FTFA "Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn will seek to offset federal aid to victims of amassive tornado that blasted through Oklahoma City suburbs on Monday with cuts elsewhere in the budget. "

Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?

It's about priorities.  Right now, there are potentially still people trapped in rubble waiting to be rescued.  He's concerned about a political agenda.  It's like having a fire chief ask about your personal finances to pay for their visit while they're putting out your fire.  We all know it needs to be paid for, but perhaps his head should be in the game.

Perhaps, but he made this statement in response to the question about it... So wouldn't the member of the press be the Supreme Ultra Douche in this case, not the person who responded honestly?

Yeah man, the press is totally at fault for Coburn's policies.

So responding with a "Yes, we will offset this spending as before" is the heartless aspect, not the press member who inflamed something so obvious.  Do you also get angered when people point out that water is wet and that the sky is blue?  How heartless of them.

maybe they saw how fun scandalizin' was and want to find one of their very own.
Coburn spokesman asked a question about disaster aid. Spokesman says that Coburn's position is that disaster aid should be offset by cuts elsewhere. ZOMG WHY DOES HE WANT TO LEAVE CHILDREN BURIED IN THE RUBBBBBBBLES?!

I think his position is reasonable, just that he could phrased in a better way, as if offsetting the spending wasn't on the same level of priorities as disaster relief.


Sure he could have. So that's the story? Coburn's spokesman is a dick for not deflecting a question? OK I guess
2013-05-21 08:19:22 AM  
1 votes:
OH HO HO.

The plot thickens.

Oklahoma gets $1.35 in Federal spending for every dollar they receive in taxes.

This is a leach state.  An entire state of takers.

Yeah, we can definitely find cuts in Federal spending in this state to offset the disaster aid.
2013-05-21 08:10:50 AM  
1 votes:

Spaz-master: HotWingConspiracy: Spaz-master: Dracolich: Spaz-master: It's amazing how many of the respondents didn't RTFA and only this flametatic headline.

FTFA "Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn will seek to offset federal aid to victims of amassive tornado that blasted through Oklahoma City suburbs on Monday with cuts elsewhere in the budget. "

Bookkeeping is now heartless? I guess some of you would say that the only way to have a heart is blind spending without at least trying to manage the accounts being spent?

It's about priorities.  Right now, there are potentially still people trapped in rubble waiting to be rescued.  He's concerned about a political agenda.  It's like having a fire chief ask about your personal finances to pay for their visit while they're putting out your fire.  We all know it needs to be paid for, but perhaps his head should be in the game.

Perhaps, but he made this statement in response to the question about it... So wouldn't the member of the press be the Supreme Ultra Douche in this case, not the person who responded honestly?

Yeah man, the press is totally at fault for Coburn's policies.

So responding with a "Yes, we will offset this spending as before" is the heartless aspect,


Yes. Well, that and the policy itself.

not the press member who inflamed something so obvious.

Inflamed? Do you understand what the press does? They ask people questions. They aren't responsible for the answers.

Do you also get angered when people point out that water is wet and that the sky is blue?  How heartless of them.


This probably sounded pretty clever in your head.
2013-05-21 08:08:05 AM  
1 votes:

Spaz-master: Perhaps, but he made this statement in response to the question about it... So wouldn't the member of the press be the Supreme Ultra Douche in this case, not the person who responded honestly?


He could have stuck to his principles without coming across as a colossally-heartless douche by answering something along the lines of "There will be plenty of time to debate the budgetary implications of disaster aid after everyone is safe."
2013-05-21 08:07:00 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Satanic_Hamster: Fine.  I'm sure we can find budget cuts of Federal spending in Oklahoma to compensate.

yeah! Fark those poor and needy in OK! That'll show Coburn!

This is why you people aren't nearly as wise or compassionate as you like to tell each other you are.


The alternative is federal spending gets cut elsewhere, negatively impacting poor and needy there.

Coburn's state actually feeling the effects of his decision making seems a perfectly cromulent compromise.
2013-05-21 08:06:07 AM  
1 votes:
He had to choose between being heartless and being hypocritical.
2013-05-21 08:05:19 AM  
1 votes:

Giant Clown Shoe: [wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 594x425]

"Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."

/f'ing career politician against government
//ass cancer, please get it


Technically he's also a gynecologist who seems to know nothing about women.
2013-05-21 08:04:24 AM  
1 votes:
What an ass. He knows the Federal government is the only way these people are going to get help and he's holding it back from them.
2013-05-21 08:03:26 AM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Satanic_Hamster: Fine.  I'm sure we can find budget cuts of Federal spending in Oklahoma to compensate.

yeah! Fark those poor and needy in OK! That'll show Coburn!

This is why you people aren't nearly as wise or compassionate as you like to tell each other you are.


"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind"
2013-05-21 07:58:32 AM  
1 votes:
Can any of the few occasionally rational Republicans on this site please give me one reason to vote Republican?
2013-05-21 07:54:58 AM  
1 votes:
I think I actually appreciate this more than Ted Cruz saying disaster relief is pork, then turning around and asking for it after the Waco explosion. This Oklahoma guy might be an asshole, but at least he's consistent.

Consistently evil and ignorant, but consistent nonetheless.
2013-05-21 07:53:16 AM  
1 votes:

Skarekrough: It'd be nice to see some consequences for his action......like perhaps his constituents burning his home to the farking ground.

Heavy-handed, sure, but it just seems like other messages aren't really getting through.


meh, one of his CEO buddies would just build him a bigger one.
2013-05-21 07:50:06 AM  
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: At least it's his own farking state.  'Course, he's retiring and therefore gives zero farks.


If I were him I'd move somewhere out of OK.
2013-05-21 07:49:01 AM  
1 votes:
People too stupid to not have life insurance and tornado insurance shouldn't be bailed out by the government
2013-05-21 07:47:51 AM  
1 votes:

GoldSpider: Tigger: The GOP is a terrorist organisation. Support for them is treason.

/eyeroll

Always such a fine-tuned sense of perspective.


I'm sensing unwarranted sarcasm.
2013-05-21 07:44:11 AM  
1 votes:
Time to stop campaigning and start governing. If you keep trying to score points and if something is good for the other guy it must be bad for you then shouldn't be in office.  Holding political office isn't a zero sum event it is about make the lives of Americans better.
2013-05-21 07:43:40 AM  
1 votes:
The more and more this shiat goes on the more it becomes clear to me that the GOP are the largest group of domestic terrorists the U.S. has ever faced.
2013-05-21 07:41:00 AM  
1 votes:

Tigger: The GOP is a terrorist organisation. Support for them is treason.


/eyeroll

Always such a fine-tuned sense of perspective.
2013-05-21 07:37:27 AM  
1 votes:
Oh, and not only has Coburn been a complete douchewank about holding up random spending bills for the last two decades, he's also been closely affiliated with The Family.  So he's just trying to make Oklahoma as much of a shiathole as Uganda.
2013-05-21 07:34:47 AM  
1 votes:
This is what they voted for.

Frankly I don't see why they should even be provided rescuers until we get to the bottom of this Benghazi thing.
2013-05-21 07:34:10 AM  
1 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: This is the mindset of today's GOP.  Millions of dollars towards useless gestures like voting to repeal Obamacare, billions of dollars fo outdated and unused military programs, but for AMERICANS that really need help?  Fark them.

And this guy is even FROM Oklahoma?  What a farking piece of shiat.


I'm not sure you caught what he is saying.  His constituents can have aid, but some other part of the budget has to be cut to make up for it.  Let someone ELSE suffer!
2013-05-21 07:33:44 AM  
1 votes:
Hooray for Cantor version 2.0. How do these utter wastes of space keep getting elected?
2013-05-21 07:27:09 AM  
1 votes:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: At least he's consistent, in a fiscally sound sociopathic way.


FTFY
2013-05-21 07:26:00 AM  
1 votes:
He mentions the wars that weren't paid for...I wonder if he voted for those?
2013-05-21 12:08:57 AM  
1 votes:
 
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