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2013-05-21 01:38:48 AM

Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn


rlv.zcache.com


Yeah, no way in hell I want that Google image search rolling around in my head while I'm trying to drift off to sleep. I'm just going to grant you the win, here...
 
2013-05-21 01:38:54 AM
The best and most clever way to fool the  FBI is to come up with some kind of code  and stick to it.  The folks at the government's secretive   NSA could care less about average citizens, or do they?    Are Farkers paranoid government agencies have nothing better to do;  monitoring their private emails is not a government's priority.  Will  this egocentric hubris continue to manifest itself in every Fark  thread?

/ Come up with a code like reading every tenth word
// Burn after reading
/// Drink your Ovaltine
 
2013-05-21 01:41:00 AM
Meh let em read what they want, if they want eye watering boredom my emails will provide it in spades, if they want blindness and the sudden need to shower with ajax my surfing habits will suffice nicely, if they want to run from the room screaming while trying to remove their eyeballs with yogurt spoons have em link into my webcam.

/currently lying here naked while the Old Lady braids my nipple hair
 
2013-05-21 01:43:01 AM
I always said PGP should have been built or implemented into the infrastructure.  Then again I was 14 and most people were like BBS what now?
 
2013-05-21 01:48:37 AM

Pribar: Meh let em read what they want, if they want eye watering boredom my emails will provide it in spades, if they want blindness and the sudden need to shower with ajax my surfing habits will suffice nicely, if they want to run from the room screaming while trying to remove their eyeballs with yogurt spoons have em link into my webcam.

/currently lying here naked while the Old Lady braids my nipple hair


I think I have found a replacement for Margret Thatcher.
 
2013-05-21 01:50:42 AM

AGremlin: / Come up with a code like reading every tenth word
// Burn after reading
/// Drink your Ovaltine


Whatever you want to know about the world can befound out. If you really want to know -- you'resureas can be -- then there is only one waytodiscover. The truth is like a long, tall, cooldrinkof water. The real question is whether or not yourconstitution is up to discovering the dark secret behindOvaltine.

/orphan annie out
 
2013-05-21 01:53:02 AM

Bumblefark: He would make passing references to how he had been involved in some operation monitoring US mail headed overseas.


I grant that mail != telegraphs, but that does sound a lot like this one.
 
2013-05-21 01:56:44 AM
Then they'll see all the Obama spam I get and maybe put a stop to it. farking asshole. I never signed up for that shiat. I'm never voting for him again.
 
2013-05-21 01:59:45 AM

Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn




Yeah, no way in hell I want that Google image search rolling around in my head while I'm trying to drift off to sleep. I'm just going to grant you the win, here...


I came up with something too sick for Fark? Does that mean I get a internet law named after me or something.
 
2013-05-21 02:00:59 AM

Gyrfalcon: Guess what. If you're not doing something that the NSA, FBI or CIA is already looking into (like terrorism in target countries, selling drugs in suspect nations, or working for one of the Five Families), they've got no reason to start looking at your email, or any other mail, just because.

So stop being so f*cking paranoid about the government already. They have other people they're spying on besides your sorry ass.


 so i guess uve not read of individuals using said access for their own reasons

or not heard of such power ever being abused?

(it just now occurred to me that i may have been trolled - if so - i am amused at myself)
 
2013-05-21 02:01:50 AM

asynchron: Bumblefark: He would make passing references to how he had been involved in some operation monitoring US mail headed overseas.

I grant that mail != telegraphs, but that does sound a lot like this one.


Could very well be. Except, he used the word, "opening," which makes me think it was probably physical mail. The time frame would be about right, though. He mentioned it somewhere in the 1980s, and I got the sense that he was talking about something that happened many years ago. Reading that, I have to believe that if they were intercepting telegraphs, that isn't the *only* thing they were they were intercepting.

/Hold on...think somebody's at the door. Lemme go check. BRB.
 
2013-05-21 02:07:22 AM
I once had a guy on this very website make some comments which seemed like he might know more than he should about who i really am. So i researched his previous posts and what do you know, he worked in US naval intelligence. I stopped posting here for quite awhile after.
 
2013-05-21 02:09:27 AM

Oldiron_79: Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn


Yeah, no way in hell I want that Google image search rolling around in my head while I'm trying to drift off to sleep. I'm just going to grant you the win, here...

I came up with something too sick for Fark? Does that mean I get a internet law named after me or something.


Rule #97: If a Farker cannot fap to it, it is unfappable. Verily.
 
2013-05-21 02:18:42 AM
If they aren't required to destroy data collected accidentally, doesn't it stand to reason they already built whatever is needed to collect all the things, hooked it up to a big red button, and put the button in random places in the office until someone accidentally the whole thing? Then never bothered to turn it off?
 
2013-05-21 02:20:41 AM

Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn


Yeah, no way in hell I want that Google image search rolling around in my head while I'm trying to drift off to sleep. I'm just going to grant you the win, here...

I came up with something too sick for Fark? Does that mean I get a internet law named after me or something.

Rule #97: If a Farker cannot fap to it, it is unfappable. Verily.


Nothing is unfappable.
 
2013-05-21 02:22:49 AM
LMAO! I came into the thread with something specific to say and by the time I had read the last post I had completely forgotten what I was going to say!

/Good job Farkers!
//These threads are why I will never be able to quit Fark
///I am very Amused!
 
2013-05-21 02:24:58 AM
ha,

everything is read, then filtered for patterns of words that of interest.  Doesn't mean every message is read by human eyes, but any electronic transmission that says combination of words like yellow cake or enrich or islamababameh is then put in an edit queue

and when I say everything...
 
2013-05-21 02:26:51 AM

Oldiron_79: Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn


Yeah, no way in hell I want that Google image search rolling around in my head while I'm trying to drift off to sleep. I'm just going to grant you the win, here...

I came up with something too sick for Fark? Does that mean I get a internet law named after me or something.

Rule #97: If a Farker cannot fap to it, it is unfappable. Verily.

Nothing is unfappable.


www.treaclechops.co.za

Bea Arthur. (Not safe for lunch.)

Your move.
 
2013-05-21 02:28:41 AM

Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn


Now I don't have that, but somewhere on my drive I think I have a girl wearing a gas mask while pooping.  I think that trumps midgets.
 
2013-05-21 02:28:51 AM

J. Frank Parnell: I once had a guy on this very website make some comments which seemed like he might know more than he should about who i really am. So i researched his previous posts and what do you know, he worked in US naval intelligence. I stopped posting here for quite awhile after.


The chair is against the wall.

John has a long mustache.
 
2013-05-21 02:29:24 AM

Oldiron_79: Pribar: Meh let em read what they want, if they want eye watering boredom my emails will provide it in spades, if they want blindness and the sudden need to shower with ajax my surfing habits will suffice nicely, if they want to run from the room screaming while trying to remove their eyeballs with yogurt spoons have em link into my webcam.

/currently lying here naked while the Old Lady braids my nipple hair

I think I have found a replacement for Margret Thatcher.


I dont think I can fit into one of her dresses though, catch me on a slow day and I will be willing to try.
 
2013-05-21 02:35:40 AM

bk3k: Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn

Now I don't have that, but somewhere on my drive I think I have a girl wearing a gas mask while pooping.  I think that trumps midgets.


I think I saw that one.

I cried uncontrollably for most of that week, but the tremors have almost stopped. Ask your doctor about Wellbutrin. Worked for me! (*thumbs up*)
 
2013-05-21 02:42:50 AM
WTF, am I the only one who does my ilegal activity in person anymore? who the hell uses their email for anyhting other then telling your boss hes a dick when you have found a new job?
 
2013-05-21 02:43:40 AM

Mark Ratner: The chair is against the wall.

John has a long mustache.


They weren't quite so vague, or like a cold reading. I'm not paranoid by nature, and have never looked at someones post history before or since. It genuinely freaked me out.

I've since become comfortable with the idea there might be a file on me somewhere, and as long as they're comfortable with me talking about certain things in public we're cool. I probably don't know anything which would cause them to care that much about me anyway. And as i've heard before, they don't really care about what people hear, only what they believe. People here don't believe much of anything i say.
 
2013-05-21 02:46:36 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
O rly?
 
2013-05-21 02:47:41 AM

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: In the early 90s I worked on a show called "Dream On." For a short scene one week we needed a sentence translated from English into Czechoslovakian, so I got the bright idea to just call the Czech embassy and ask whoever we got on the phone to translate it for us. We did. They did. And into the script our authentic translation went.

A couple hours later the LA office of the FBI called asking why we were calling the Czech embassy in DC from our offices in North Hollywood. After a few minutes of our script coordinator explaining it a few different ways they said "okay" and hung up.

Script Coordinator Susan got to feel like a spy for a day.

/csb


That's....actually a pretty cool story, bro. My first chuckle of the day.
 
2013-05-21 02:57:42 AM

J. Frank Parnell: I once had a guy on this very website make some comments which seemed like he might know more than he should about who i really am. So i researched his previous posts and what do you know, he worked in US naval intelligence. I stopped posting here for quite awhile after.


You'd be amazed what builds up in farkies when you log everything important they post in their header. You've just been farkied for your strange experience

Only like 6 farkers have admitted to being black in threads I've seen. There are literally more lesbians and gays than black folk on here.
 
2013-05-21 03:06:08 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: J. Frank Parnell: I once had a guy on this very website make some comments which seemed like he might know more than he should about who i really am. So i researched his previous posts and what do you know, he worked in US naval intelligence. I stopped posting here for quite awhile after.

You'd be amazed what builds up in farkies when you log everything important they post in their header. You've just been farkied for your strange experience

Only like 6 farkers have admitted to being black in threads I've seen. There are literally more lesbians and gays than black folk on here.


Btw, I'd have that mole checked out, if I were you.
 
2013-05-21 03:08:37 AM

Fano: Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Smeggy Smurf: I've never emailed bomb plans to a gay terrorist in the tea party in Boston.  Not me.  I only mention firebombings in Waco and fertilizer bombs in Oklahoma City.  It's not like I talk about tax evasion or music piracy in emails.

I had ricin beans for lunch while listening to Anthrax and checking my mail.

Ricin is the poor man's james bond fantasy.  To be really nasty you need to do some google of the army improvised munitions and demolitions manual from 1968.  You can get them at unlicensed gun shows run by militias and other patriot groups.

Back in the BBS days, pre-Oklahoma City bombing, I remember downloading out of curiousity a fair number of excerpts from the Anarchist's Cookbook and various "how to make explosives" like how to make nitroglycerine or picric acid. Or how to make psychidelics from banana peels. The directions were always written in leet speak, and all seemed brain damaged enough to be a guaranteed plan to blow yourself up trying. (Last step always seemed to be "hAv3 pHun!")

Of course, a fair number of them were copied from Paladin Press, which I'm sure is what you're referencing.

I've sometimes wondered over the years if my parent's phone lines were ever checked over that stuff.

/it's hard to prevent some bomb-making knowledge when some of it is just applied jr. high chemistry.


Hell, I learned how to make TNT from a library book. I shiat you not.

/The Romance of Modern Weapons
 
2013-05-21 03:13:19 AM

iq_in_binary: Fano: Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Smeggy Smurf: I've never emailed bomb plans to a gay terrorist in the tea party in Boston.  Not me.  I only mention firebombings in Waco and fertilizer bombs in Oklahoma City.  It's not like I talk about tax evasion or music piracy in emails.

I had ricin beans for lunch while listening to Anthrax and checking my mail.

Ricin is the poor man's james bond fantasy.  To be really nasty you need to do some google of the army improvised munitions and demolitions manual from 1968.  You can get them at unlicensed gun shows run by militias and other patriot groups.

Back in the BBS days, pre-Oklahoma City bombing, I remember downloading out of curiousity a fair number of excerpts from the Anarchist's Cookbook and various "how to make explosives" like how to make nitroglycerine or picric acid. Or how to make psychidelics from banana peels. The directions were always written in leet speak, and all seemed brain damaged enough to be a guaranteed plan to blow yourself up trying. (Last step always seemed to be "hAv3 pHun!")

Of course, a fair number of them were copied from Paladin Press, which I'm sure is what you're referencing.

I've sometimes wondered over the years if my parent's phone lines were ever checked over that stuff.

/it's hard to prevent some bomb-making knowledge when some of it is just applied jr. high chemistry.

Hell, I learned how to make TNT from a library book. I shiat you not.

/The Romance of Modern Weapons



the recipe for thermite is in one of your highschool chem books. this I can almost 100% guarantee. sure it dosent go BOOM as easily, but it will put a hole through your "favourit" teachers engine block and leave alot of un-answered questions in its wake.
/wasent me...
 
2013-05-21 03:16:16 AM

bobtheallmighty: iq_in_binary: Fano: Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Smeggy Smurf: I've never emailed bomb plans to a gay terrorist in the tea party in Boston.  Not me.  I only mention firebombings in Waco and fertilizer bombs in Oklahoma City.  It's not like I talk about tax evasion or music piracy in emails.

I had ricin beans for lunch while listening to Anthrax and checking my mail.

Ricin is the poor man's james bond fantasy.  To be really nasty you need to do some google of the army improvised munitions and demolitions manual from 1968.  You can get them at unlicensed gun shows run by militias and other patriot groups.

Back in the BBS days, pre-Oklahoma City bombing, I remember downloading out of curiousity a fair number of excerpts from the Anarchist's Cookbook and various "how to make explosives" like how to make nitroglycerine or picric acid. Or how to make psychidelics from banana peels. The directions were always written in leet speak, and all seemed brain damaged enough to be a guaranteed plan to blow yourself up trying. (Last step always seemed to be "hAv3 pHun!")

Of course, a fair number of them were copied from Paladin Press, which I'm sure is what you're referencing.

I've sometimes wondered over the years if my parent's phone lines were ever checked over that stuff.

/it's hard to prevent some bomb-making knowledge when some of it is just applied jr. high chemistry.

Hell, I learned how to make TNT from a library book. I shiat you not.

/The Romance of Modern Weapons


the recipe for thermite is in one of your highschool chem books. this I can almost 100% guarantee. sure it dosent go BOOM as easily, but it will put a hole through your "favourit" teachers engine block and leave alot of un-answered questions in its wake.
/wasent me...


It doesn't go boom at all....
 
2013-05-21 03:18:54 AM

iq_in_binary: bobtheallmighty: iq_in_binary: Fano: Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Smeggy Smurf: I've never emailed bomb plans to a gay terrorist in the tea party in Boston.  Not me.  I only mention firebombings in Waco and fertilizer bombs in Oklahoma City.  It's not like I talk about tax evasion or music piracy in emails.

I had ricin beans for lunch while listening to Anthrax and checking my mail.

Ricin is the poor man's james bond fantasy.  To be really nasty you need to do some google of the army improvised munitions and demolitions manual from 1968.  You can get them at unlicensed gun shows run by militias and other patriot groups.

Back in the BBS days, pre-Oklahoma City bombing, I remember downloading out of curiousity a fair number of excerpts from the Anarchist's Cookbook and various "how to make explosives" like how to make nitroglycerine or picric acid. Or how to make psychidelics from banana peels. The directions were always written in leet speak, and all seemed brain damaged enough to be a guaranteed plan to blow yourself up trying. (Last step always seemed to be "hAv3 pHun!")

Of course, a fair number of them were copied from Paladin Press, which I'm sure is what you're referencing.

I've sometimes wondered over the years if my parent's phone lines were ever checked over that stuff.

/it's hard to prevent some bomb-making knowledge when some of it is just applied jr. high chemistry.

Hell, I learned how to make TNT from a library book. I shiat you not.

/The Romance of Modern Weapons


the recipe for thermite is in one of your highschool chem books. this I can almost 100% guarantee. sure it dosent go BOOM as easily, but it will put a hole through your "favourit" teachers engine block and leave alot of un-answered questions in its wake.
/wasent me...

It doesn't go boom at all....


put iy on a block of ice and call me back. it also forms unstalbe pools of molton iron in large ammounts that have the tendency to off shoot. but yeah, it dosent normaly go boom.
 
2013-05-21 03:21:19 AM

J. Frank Parnell: I once had a guy on this very website make some comments which seemed like he might know more than he should about who i really am. So i researched his previous posts and what do you know, he worked in US naval intelligence. I stopped posting here for quite awhile after.


Flynavy wasn't a genius, he just had his intelligent wife typing.

She was heavily involved in MK ULTRA and Echelon.
 
2013-05-21 03:30:26 AM

bobtheallmighty: iq_in_binary: bobtheallmighty: iq_in_binary: Fano: Smeggy Smurf: fusillade762: Smeggy Smurf: I've never emailed bomb plans to a gay terrorist in the tea party in Boston.  Not me.  I only mention firebombings in Waco and fertilizer bombs in Oklahoma City.  It's not like I talk about tax evasion or music piracy in emails.

I had ricin beans for lunch while listening to Anthrax and checking my mail.

Ricin is the poor man's james bond fantasy.  To be really nasty you need to do some google of the army improvised munitions and demolitions manual from 1968.  You can get them at unlicensed gun shows run by militias and other patriot groups.

Back in the BBS days, pre-Oklahoma City bombing, I remember downloading out of curiousity a fair number of excerpts from the Anarchist's Cookbook and various "how to make explosives" like how to make nitroglycerine or picric acid. Or how to make psychidelics from banana peels. The directions were always written in leet speak, and all seemed brain damaged enough to be a guaranteed plan to blow yourself up trying. (Last step always seemed to be "hAv3 pHun!")

Of course, a fair number of them were copied from Paladin Press, which I'm sure is what you're referencing.

I've sometimes wondered over the years if my parent's phone lines were ever checked over that stuff.

/it's hard to prevent some bomb-making knowledge when some of it is just applied jr. high chemistry.

Hell, I learned how to make TNT from a library book. I shiat you not.

/The Romance of Modern Weapons


the recipe for thermite is in one of your highschool chem books. this I can almost 100% guarantee. sure it dosent go BOOM as easily, but it will put a hole through your "favourit" teachers engine block and leave alot of un-answered questions in its wake.
/wasent me...

It doesn't go boom at all....

put iy on a block of ice and call me back. it also forms unstalbe pools of molton iron in large ammounts that have the tendency to off shoot. but yeah, it dosent normaly go boo ...


Basically, during your exercises start thinking about highly exothermic reactions... then start thinking about the factors that increase pressure and decrease volume...

The problem about denying people knowledge of explosives is realizing that it was discovered in China in the middle ages without Science. The principles are simple.

Now... finding a stable, safe, and destructive chemical reaction that won't kill the person trying to home cook it... why, that's an achievement worthy of a Nobel.
 
2013-05-21 03:53:53 AM
@fano

diesel and high nitrate futerlizer... where is my nobel?
 
2013-05-21 04:20:02 AM
Ooooh... So the government now knows that I have $8.57 on my Walmart money card, I delete everything from careerbuilder and Nigerian royalty, oh and I signed up for publishers clearing house for the discount magazines.

Don't judge me.
 
2013-05-21 05:26:56 AM

Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: Bumblefark: Oldiron_79: midgit gas mask porn


Yeah, no way in hell I want that Google image search rolling around in my head while I'm trying to drift off to sleep. I'm just going to grant you the win, here...

I came up with something too sick for Fark? Does that mean I get a internet law named after me or something.

Rule #97: If a Farker cannot fap to it, it is unfappable. Verily.

Nothing is unfappable.

[www.treaclechops.co.za image 325x240]

Bea Arthur. (Not safe for lunch.)

Your move.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-21 05:56:26 AM

meat0918: I just assume nothing is private.


That's the best way to proceed. Something that TFA doesn't take into account is that the government is allowed to provide disinformation in order to protect national security. That is, the information obtained and provided to the author may not be accurate, regardless of how good his confirmed sources are.

Just assume the NSA takes a whiff of everything you send, submit, and say. If you don't want them coming after you for talking about airline hijackings, nuclear weapons smuggling, and human trafficking, then don't discuss airline hijackings, nuclear weapons smuggling, and human trafficking in any of your communications, whether or not they're encrypted. You need to keep in mind--

Oops. Hang on... there's someone dressed in black hanging from a rope outside my window. Sh*it... Now there's someone banging on my door and yelling something. WTF IS THAT? TEAR GA--

+++NO CARRIER
 
2013-05-21 06:05:51 AM

jonny_q: I want a hosted email service that (1) supports GPG and (2) converts unencrypted messages to GPG as they are received and stored on the hosted server.

I've looked but I haven't found anything quite like that.

GPG, or something like it, should be well-polished enough that any idiot should use it, and it should be absolutely mandatory for any communication with a bank or credit card company.


Lavabit.com
 
2013-05-21 06:31:48 AM

AGremlin: The best and most clever way to fool the  FBI is to come up with some kind of code  and stick to it.  The folks at the government's secretive   NSA could care less about average citizens, or do they?    Are Farkers paranoid government agencies have nothing better to do;  monitoring their private emails is not a government's priority.  Will  this egocentric hubris continue to manifest itself in every Fark  thread?

/ Come up with a code like reading every tenth word
// Burn after reading
/// Drink your Ovaltine


That's called a "null cipher".   The problem with using words is that if you are trying to be surreptitious you give the game away.  It's better to do something like the third letter after every punctuation mark, like this:

Hi Dad.  Has Mom gotten my letter?  There is a card in the envelope.  Went down to the store, and picked it up on clearance.  Mom will love it.  Booked a flight home for July.  Won't be able to make the family reunion this year.  May try next year.

That doesn't sound suspicious at all, does it?   The problem is that you could write a computer program to simply go through all the possible combinations of null cipher regimes and eventually find plaintext.  If you add the complexity of a relatively simple cipher to it, then it becomes largely unnoticeable, which is not the same thing as unbreakable.
 
2013-05-21 06:40:29 AM

J. Frank Parnell: I once had a guy on this very website make some comments which seemed like he might know more than he should about who i really am. So i researched his previous posts and what do you know, he worked in US naval intelligence. I stopped posting here for quite awhile after.


Meh.

It's not that hard to build up a profile of somebody based upon their postings, if they are interested.  Unless you never, ever post anything of a personal nature, and you go through the proverbial 7 proxies every single time, you'll leave enough tracks for even a mildly interested person to figure out who you are.

For example, I do X, Y, and Z, and I've posted on Fark that I do them.  The list of people who do those is online.  By simply looking at the common names for those that do all three, you could probably determine who I am fairly quickly, with just a little bit of effort.
 
2013-05-21 06:43:11 AM

dittybopper: AGremlin: The best and most clever way to fool the  FBI is to come up with some kind of code  and stick to it.  The folks at the government's secretive   NSA could care less about average citizens, or do they?    Are Farkers paranoid government agencies have nothing better to do;  monitoring their private emails is not a government's priority.  Will  this egocentric hubris continue to manifest itself in every Fark  thread?

/ Come up with a code like reading every tenth word
// Burn after reading
/// Drink your Ovaltine

That's called a "null cipher".   The problem with using words is that if you are trying to be surreptitious you give the game away.  It's better to do something like the third letter after every punctuation mark, like this:

Hi Dad.  Has Mom gotten my letter?  There is a card in the envelope.  Went down to the store, and picked it up on clearance.  Mom will love it.  Booked a flight home for July.  Won't be able to make the family reunion this year.  May try next year.

That doesn't sound suspicious at all, does it?   The problem is that you could write a computer program to simply go through all the possible combinations of null cipher regimes and eventually find plaintext.  If you add the complexity of a relatively simple cipher to it, then it becomes largely unnoticeable, which is not the same thing as unbreakable.


I liked when that one group that was using the same print copy of a book as the way to encode messages. they would talk in page, line and word numbers intermixed into normal conversation. The police heared phone conversations about picking up part 372-5-4  and 276-37-8. and other confusing stuff and it was all useless.
 
2013-05-21 06:43:36 AM

iq_in_binary: It doesn't go boom at all....


You know what does?

Flour.
 
2013-05-21 06:48:00 AM

bobtheallmighty: I liked when that one group that was using the same print copy of a book as the way to encode messages. they would talk in page, line and word numbers intermixed into normal conversation. The police heared phone conversations about picking up part 372-5-4  and 276-37-8. and other confusing stuff and it was all useless.


That's actually too obvious.  And not very secure, either.  Sure, might work against a local PD, but not against professional  cryptanalysts.
 
2013-05-21 06:50:24 AM

dittybopper: iq_in_binary: It doesn't go boom at all....

You know what does?

Flour.


gotta love an old fassion grain elevator explotion, or a coal mine.

I thought everyone learned about surface area in chem?
 
2013-05-21 07:04:23 AM

dittybopper: bobtheallmighty: I liked when that one group that was using the same print copy of a book as the way to encode messages. they would talk in page, line and word numbers intermixed into normal conversation. The police heared phone conversations about picking up part 372-5-4  and 276-37-8. and other confusing stuff and it was all useless.

That's actually too obvious.  And not very secure, either.  Sure, might work against a local PD, but not against professional  cryptanalysts.


it might not work with the big boys, but with over 100mill books in print plus diffrent additions and revisions it might still be annoying to figure out. couldent you just drop another simple code onto that to futher confuse matters anyways?
 
2013-05-21 07:18:36 AM
Yeah, well, would it kill them to help out by deleting a little spam once in a while?  :|
 
2013-05-21 07:29:51 AM

bobtheallmighty: dittybopper: bobtheallmighty: I liked when that one group that was using the same print copy of a book as the way to encode messages. they would talk in page, line and word numbers intermixed into normal conversation. The police heared phone conversations about picking up part 372-5-4  and 276-37-8. and other confusing stuff and it was all useless.

That's actually too obvious.  And not very secure, either.  Sure, might work against a local PD, but not against professional  cryptanalysts.

it might not work with the big boys, but with over 100mill books in print plus diffrent additions and revisions it might still be annoying to figure out. couldent you just drop another simple code onto that to futher confuse matters anyways?


The problem is that you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.   Sure, you've got a huge keyspace, but that only matters against brute force attacks.   Here are some problems with book codes:

1.  Not every book has every word you might want to use, except perhaps dictionaries*
2.  People get lazy and start using the same words that they've memorized.
3.  The principles of analyzing codes are well known, and you don't need the actual book to break them.


*Perhaps not even then.  For instance, you won't find some slang, narrow technical terms, and most proper names in even the most comprehensive dictionaries.  Also, the very nature of dictionaries (they are organized in alphabetical order) makes them vulnerable to cryptanalysis:  If you know 200-2-10 is the word "call" then you know that 327-1-17 can't be "before", for example.
 
2013-05-21 07:35:04 AM
99% of the population is so insonfigent....wake up people, your life isn't that exciting in the grand scheme of things
 
2013-05-21 07:43:55 AM

tbhouston: 99% of the population is so insonfigent....wake up people, your life isn't that exciting in the grand scheme of things


That's irrelevant.  It doesn't matter how exciting any particular person happens to be.  Anne Frank wasn't all that exciting, after all.  What matters is that government doesn't get total mastery of all communications.

/Yeah, I went there.
 
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