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2013-05-21 12:05:45 AM  
The corrugated steel pipe shelter looks pretty cool, except I guess you have to put the home furnishings in before you weld up one end and and bury it. I'm not a doomsday prepper type person and I'd lose my mind without windows, but one of these would be cool to have hidden in the yard. Just because all boys like secret forts, and we never truly grow up.
 
2013-05-21 01:03:34 AM  

violentsalvation: you have to put the home furnishings in before you weld up one end and and bury it.


One word: IKEA.
 
2013-05-21 03:54:55 AM  
How are these powered without giving away their location? It seems a solar array would be rather in the open and obvious, and a generator would be limited by fuel and emissions.
 
2013-05-21 03:55:35 AM  
Well, they've certainly made enemies.
Although, you'd have to get past their hoverround army to reach their underground lair.
 
2013-05-21 03:55:59 AM  
ts3.mm.bing.net

Approves.
 
2013-05-21 03:57:02 AM  

anotherpdxslacker: How are these powered without giving away their location? It seems a solar array would be rather in the open and obvious, and a generator would be limited by fuel and emissions.


They burn clean, no emission cash.
 
2013-05-21 03:58:51 AM  

sendtodave: [ts3.mm.bing.net image 179x177]

Approves.


images.tvrage.com

Do not approve.
 
2013-05-21 04:00:25 AM  
Those shots with the kids in the bunk beds remind me way too much of Downfall.
 
2013-05-21 04:00:47 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Well, they've certainly made enemies.
Although, you'd have to get past their hoverround army to reach their underground lair.


Wait, I was kind of joking but jesus christ I made the mistake of checking the DM comments.

Forget the swimming pool and private jet, the real 'luxuries' in bomb shelters are the tactical defense capabilities. The Discovery Channel show Doomday Bunkers has shown bunkers with spike strips that impale intruders and blow torches to set intruders on fire. And that's what they can legally show. Preppers know full well they will have to defend their shelters with deadly force. +35 rating


I just don't even know any more. These are supposed to be organisms that share almost all of my DNA.
 
2013-05-21 04:04:25 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco: Well, they've certainly made enemies.
Although, you'd have to get past their hoverround army to reach their underground lair.

Wait, I was kind of joking but jesus christ I made the mistake of checking the DM comments.

Forget the swimming pool and private jet, the real 'luxuries' in bomb shelters are the tactical defense capabilities. The Discovery Channel show Doomday Bunkers has shown bunkers with spike strips that impale intruders and blow torches to set intruders on fire. And that's what they can legally show. Preppers know full well they will have to defend their shelters with deadly force. +35 rating


I just don't even know any more. These are supposed to be organisms that share almost all of my DNA.


Who would want to live in a world where these morons are the sole survivors? The sweet embrace of death would be preferable to a life of DERP.
 
2013-05-21 04:06:21 AM  
Exactly what scenario would these be useful in?

If you get nuked unless you have a completely absurd amount of supplies down there you'll starve long before the radiation fades. So you're giving yourself a slow, painful death instead of a quick one.

And the various other apocalypse scenarios seem like the sort of thing that a bomb shelter would be ill designed to protect you from. If the economy collapses surely a small farm somewhere remote would be safer, and if the zombies rise, why would you want to trap yourself in a metal tomb with only one way out? If the US suddenly turns fascist and oppressive, having a secret bomb shelter is just gonna make you look like a subversive.
 
2013-05-21 04:11:27 AM  
www.saltmanz.com
 
2013-05-21 04:18:18 AM  

Gunther: Exactly what scenario would these be useful in?

If you get nuked unless you have a completely absurd amount of supplies down there you'll starve long before the radiation fades. So you're giving yourself a slow, painful death instead of a quick one.

And the various other apocalypse scenarios seem like the sort of thing that a bomb shelter would be ill designed to protect you from. If the economy collapses surely a small farm somewhere remote would be safer, and if the zombies rise, why would you want to trap yourself in a metal tomb with only one way out? If the US suddenly turns fascist and oppressive, having a secret bomb shelter is just gonna make you look like a subversive.


I'm betting people near OKC are thinking that it's hard for a tornado to blow away your underground shelter.
 
2013-05-21 04:20:55 AM  
I guess they'll need someplace to hide when the poor and middle class finally get tired of their shiat.


Whiskey Pete:  Who would want to live in a world where these morons are the sole survivors? The sweet embrace of death would be preferable to a life of DERP.

 Pretty much imagine the last 1/4 of The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
 
2013-05-21 04:21:59 AM  

Man On Pink Corner: Those shots with the kids in the bunk beds remind me way too much of Downfall.


Came to say THIS EXACT THING.
 
2013-05-21 04:24:26 AM  

violentsalvation: Just because all boys like secret forts, and we never truly grow up.


I would love it, for this specific reason alone. Actually, I'm kind of strange, I would just like a house that is mostly underground, all hobbit style. A Hobbit hole sounds exactly my style. When I win the powerball, I'm building the most bomb proof hobbit hole to live in.
 
2013-05-21 04:24:32 AM  
Concrete with rebar is not going to last very long. The rebar rusts and expands, weakening the concrete until shiat crumples. We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;) The Pantheon is so old, Roman streets were a few feet lower when it was built.
 
2013-05-21 04:30:28 AM  

sendtodave: anotherpdxslacker: How are these powered without giving away their location? It seems a solar array would be rather in the open and obvious, and a generator would be limited by fuel and emissions.

They burn clean, no emission cash.


Solve it the same way submarines do. Nucular power, my friend.
 
2013-05-21 04:30:38 AM  
I'm reading this on a generic mobile device, so it may be that I can't see the slideshow, but headline says "enough space for pools, basketball courts... and even private jets" whereas tfa appears to show a buried quonset?

/confused
 
2013-05-21 04:35:44 AM  

Gunther: Exactly what scenario would these be useful in?

If you get nuked unless you have a completely absurd amount of supplies down there you'll starve long before the radiation fades. So you're giving yourself a slow, painful death instead of a quick one.

And the various other apocalypse scenarios seem like the sort of thing that a bomb shelter would be ill designed to protect you from. If the economy collapses surely a small farm somewhere remote would be safer, and if the zombies rise, why would you want to trap yourself in a metal tomb with only one way out? If the US suddenly turns fascist and oppressive, having a secret bomb shelter is just gonna make you look like a subversive.


fascist and oppressive is just a state of mind. the largest, newest and most well appointed shelters come courtesy of USA tax payers so WashDC dooshbags may ensure COG: Continuity of Government. they have all the military at their disposal and they've proven they will gladly spend money they don't have for things they don't need.
 
2013-05-21 04:49:18 AM  

UsikFark: Concrete with rebar is not going to last very long. The rebar rusts and expands, weakening the concrete until shiat crumples. We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;) The Pantheon is so old, Roman streets were a few feet lower when it was built.


72 rue Charles Michel is just about still standing. I think after 150 years the zombies will either have been coralled or will have evolved* the capacity to break in to bomb shelters.

*do zombies evolve?
 
2013-05-21 04:55:50 AM  
That will protect no one from anything.
 
2013-05-21 04:58:01 AM  

FarkinNortherner: UsikFark: Concrete with rebar is not going to last very long. The rebar rusts and expands, weakening the concrete until shiat crumples. We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;) The Pantheon is so old, Roman streets were a few feet lower when it was built.

72 rue Charles Michel is just about still standing. I think after 150 years the zombies will either have been coralled or will have evolved* the capacity to break in to bomb shelters.

*do zombies evolve?


I do not get my kicks from zombies. Any American survivalist traits for me assume human friends and foes. A ball peen hammer is a good crude way to get the upper hand on rigid things like brick, cement, or stone. Metal (if bare) weakens greatly with heat.
 
2013-05-21 05:18:30 AM  
Okay, you prepper retards, what the fark are you going to breathe? Nuclear war/power plant  explosion? Oopsie! Air's contaminated! Economic/social collapse? "Hey, Jimbob, you see that thar vent? I bet thar's some good eats down that rabbit hole!"

As a person who grew up at the tail end of the Cold War I've always been amazed at how people don't bother to consider the problem of breathing air. Oh, sure if all you're building is a storm shelter to protect you from tornadoes and hurricanes, you're okay. But who builds one of these white elephants just to protect you from tornadoes? (And don't get me started on those lunatics from that asinine Doomsday Bunkers show (Christ, that guy is making money hand over fist catering to the insane.))
 
2013-05-21 05:21:10 AM  

Gunther: Exactly what scenario would these be useful in?

If you get nuked unless you have a completely absurd amount of supplies down there you'll starve long before the radiation fades. So you're giving yourself a slow, painful death instead of a quick one.

And the various other apocalypse scenarios seem like the sort of thing that a bomb shelter would be ill designed to protect you from. If the economy collapses surely a small farm somewhere remote would be safer, and if the zombies rise, why would you want to trap yourself in a metal tomb with only one way out? If the US suddenly turns fascist and oppressive, having a secret bomb shelter is just gonna make you look like a subversive.


See Tornado thread for answer.
 
2013-05-21 05:22:32 AM  

UsikFark: We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;)


The structural iron reinforcements in the Propylaea have lasted 2,400 years. So far.
 
2013-05-21 05:25:34 AM  

orbister: UsikFark: We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;)

The structural iron reinforcements in the Propylaea have lasted 2,400 years. So far.


they also have stainless steel rebar if you are worried your concreate will absorb to much salt and moisture for normal rebar to hold up. funny how you can put other things into things.
 
2013-05-21 05:28:13 AM  

orbister: UsikFark: We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;)

The structural iron reinforcements in the Propylaea have lasted 2,400 years. So far.


It makes me wonder if we could just use something other than steel for reinforcing. Long lived plastic rebar and recycled plastic fibers in the concrete mix. You know, that indestructible 80s plastic, that will still be here a million years after humans are gone.

That should be the next national monument. Some Great Pyramids like uber construction, designed from the start to completely baffle/amaze what ever species studies it in a few thousand years.
 
2013-05-21 05:30:08 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Okay, you prepper retards, what the fark are you going to breathe? Nuclear war/power plant  explosion? Oopsie! Air's contaminated! Economic/social collapse? "Hey, Jimbob, you see that thar vent? I bet thar's some good eats down that rabbit hole!"


SO MUCH THIS.

As a person who grew up at the tail end of the Cold War I've always been amazed at how people don't bother to consider the problem of breathing air. Oh, sure if all you're building is a storm shelter to protect you from tornadoes and hurricanes, you're okay. But who builds one of these white elephants just to protect you from tornadoes? (And don't get me started on those lunatics from that asinine Doomsday Bunkers show (Christ, that guy is making money hand over fist catering to the insane.))

Although... if I lived in a region with extreme climate and/or tornadoes, I would like a house with plenty of underground space, properly ventilated. A tornado shelter only works if you're in it, after all, and the ground is a nice heat sink.
 
2013-05-21 05:31:51 AM  

neongoats: orbister: UsikFark: We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;)

The structural iron reinforcements in the Propylaea have lasted 2,400 years. So far.

It makes me wonder if we could just use something other than steel for reinforcing. Long lived plastic rebar and recycled plastic fibers in the concrete mix. You know, that indestructible 80s plastic, that will still be here a million years after humans are gone.

That should be the next national monument. Some Great Pyramids like uber construction, designed from the start to completely baffle/amaze what ever species studies it in a few thousand years.


many companys offer other altertiniteves to normal rebar. they have been throwing tons of stuff into concreate over the last 40 years to try and make it better. rebar is cheap and effective, with a workforce that is allready trained in its use.
 
2013-05-21 05:33:22 AM  

UsikFark: A ball peen hammer is a good crude way to get the upper hand on rigid things like brick, cement, or stone. Metal (if bare) weakens greatly with heat.


The AT&T shelter in TFA has 30", steel reinforced walls. Should only take you and your ball peen hammer about 10 years to get through. And hammering on the side of a big metal tube isn't exactly conducive to a quick, stealthy attack. I think you need to rethink your plan.
 
2013-05-21 05:33:47 AM  

orbister: UsikFark: We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;)

The structural iron reinforcements in the Propylaea have lasted 2,400 years. So far.


Im sitting in a 103 year old house, on either side of my house are homes that were built in the late 70's.  Want to put money down on which home has the potential to last another 100 years?

Current building trends are to throw them up as fast and as cheaply as possible.  If I ever have the money and opportunity to have a home built from scratch, it will definitely be expensive but it will also be around for a VERY long time.
 
2013-05-21 05:39:57 AM  
Here in Las Vegas, the casinos have fallout shelters for their executives and high rollers, but us regular employees have to assemble next to dumpsters and skip loaders in back.
 
2013-05-21 05:42:02 AM  

E5bie: Although... if I lived in a region with extreme climate and/or tornadoes, I would like a house with plenty of underground space, properly ventilated. A tornado shelter only works if you're in it, after all, and the ground is a nice heat sink.


Yes, but you're not going to build one of these asinine monstrosities. How long do you need to hide from a tornado? Thirty minutes, maybe a few hours if there is a major storm. A Hurricane? Maybe twelve hours. Any decent residential concrete basement with a solid, lockable door, will protect you from those.
 
2013-05-21 05:42:47 AM  

adragontattoo: orbister: UsikFark: We have old un-reinforced concrete structures like the farking Pantheon, but no old rebar structures ;)

The structural iron reinforcements in the Propylaea have lasted 2,400 years. So far.

Im sitting in a 103 year old house, on either side of my house are homes that were built in the late 70's.  Want to put money down on which home has the potential to last another 100 years?

Current building trends are to throw them up as fast and as cheaply as possible.  If I ever have the money and opportunity to have a home built from scratch, it will definitely be expensive but it will also be around for a VERY long time.


yeah around here the trend is "ready to own" housing. cooky cutter blueprint with X modular addons to move in, in 30 days or less. I dont trust a team of random guys to properly put together a house in 30 days from top to bottem. I'm suprized their foundations dont just implode. but I guess time will tell.
 
2013-05-21 05:42:58 AM  

Ed Grubermann: Okay, you prepper retards, what the fark are you going to breathe? Nuclear war/power plant  explosion? Oopsie! Air's contaminated! Economic/social collapse? "Hey, Jimbob, you see that thar vent? I bet thar's some good eats down that rabbit hole!"


www.northwestsheltersystems.com
designed to filter out impurities in the air such as chemical warfare and radioactive particles

It can be hand cranked if there's no power and good luck squeezing through a 4" pipe.

/Not a prepper
 
2013-05-21 05:45:44 AM  

abhorrent1: Ed Grubermann: Okay, you prepper retards, what the fark are you going to breathe? Nuclear war/power plant  explosion? Oopsie! Air's contaminated! Economic/social collapse? "Hey, Jimbob, you see that thar vent? I bet thar's some good eats down that rabbit hole!"

[www.northwestsheltersystems.com image 244x369]
designed to filter out impurities in the air such as chemical warfare and radioactive particles

It can be hand cranked if there's no power and good luck squeezing through a 4" pipe.

/Not a prepper

 if people surived the distaster to the point that they can be waiting outside that pipe, they will just wait outside the door untill you starve to death or kill you when you come out. that or they will just jam a rag in the pipe and wait untill you open the door to check it out.
 
2013-05-21 06:02:21 AM  
Imagine sitting in one of these as a F4 tornado covers your exits with tons of debris.
 
2013-05-21 06:06:53 AM  
Id just drive a couple of ruined cars on top of air vents and set em on fire
 
2013-05-21 06:07:47 AM  

Deep Contact: Imagine sitting in one of these as a F4 tornado covers your exits with tons of debris.


Still preferable to sitting in your basement and yourself getting covered with tons of debris. Or getting sucked out of your house and tossed a mile or two. Maybe that's just me though.
 
2013-05-21 06:09:42 AM  

Deep Contact: Imagine sitting in one of these as a F4 tornado covers your exits with tons of debris.


now imagine you were paranoid about people taking all your stuff in a distaster and dident tell anyone were the exits were, let alone about the shelter, everyone who knows about it is trapped in it now, and you have to hope someone can find it to dig you out. most of these dont seem to have the huge exit systems that real bunkers. for example the used to build drop tunnles in bunkers for that very situation. get covered in rubble and pull a door that drops it all into a pre prepared empty concreate vault so you can actualy get the hell out.
 
2013-05-21 06:11:25 AM  

Whiskey Pete: God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco: Well, they've certainly made enemies.
Although, you'd have to get past their hoverround army to reach their underground lair.

Wait, I was kind of joking but jesus christ I made the mistake of checking the DM comments.

Forget the swimming pool and private jet, the real 'luxuries' in bomb shelters are the tactical defense capabilities. The Discovery Channel show Doomday Bunkers has shown bunkers with spike strips that impale intruders and blow torches to set intruders on fire. And that's what they can legally show. Preppers know full well they will have to defend their shelters with deadly force. +35 rating


I just don't even know any more. These are supposed to be organisms that share almost all of my DNA.

Who would want to live in a world where these morons are the sole survivors? The sweet embrace of death would be preferable to a life of DERP.


I would! They're really stupid and easy to fool! And they have a whole heap of loot!

/ Acually, one of these bunkers would be nice to have in a tornado prone area. Or if you live near an aging nuclear power plant.
 
2013-05-21 06:13:32 AM  

abhorrent1: It can be hand cranked if there's no power and good luck squeezing through a 4" pipe.


How well does that air pump work if the people outside build a neat little mound of earth over its intake?
 
2013-05-21 06:24:07 AM  

orbister: abhorrent1: It can be hand cranked if there's no power and good luck squeezing through a 4" pipe.

How well does that air pump work if the people outside build a neat little mound of earth over its intake?


I'm going to assume the intake can somehow be hidden. It's not like you have to have a giant, white, 4" PVC pipe sticking a few feet out of the ground directly above the shelter. That would actually be pretty dumb. I imagine if you have the room, you could even run it  hundreds of feet or even yards from the shelter.

Alternately..
www.swampfox.info
 
2013-05-21 06:25:37 AM  

abhorrent1: orbister: abhorrent1: It can be hand cranked if there's no power and good luck squeezing through a 4" pipe.

How well does that air pump work if the people outside build a neat little mound of earth over its intake?

I'm going to assume the intake can somehow be hidden. It's not like you have to have a giant, white, 4" PVC pipe sticking a few feet out of the ground directly above the shelter. That would actually be pretty dumb. I imagine if you have the room, you could even run it  hundreds of feet or even yards from the shelter.

Alternately..
[www.swampfox.info image 400x301]

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so you stoped the first guy, now what?
 
2013-05-21 06:29:02 AM  
You know, guys, Moscow arms against nuclear attack by building 5000 brand new bomb shelters for general population.
They say that current shelters can protect only half of the population, so they want to upgrade that.
Switzerland is unique in having enough fallout shelters to accommodate the entire population.
Norway has 25000 bomb shelters for population, and they are trying to build more.
Sweden, Germany and others have built bomb shelters for their population too.

So I have a question: HOW COME, the United States government did not (during the Cold War) and does not currently build fallout shelters for the general population?

If Moscow is building up more and so does Western Europe, than the threat still exists, right?
 
2013-05-21 06:35:24 AM  
One of these would be pretty cool for just chilling with people. Have some TVs or music, plenty of booze, have a party down there every once in awhile. Use it as a workspace or just a private retreat from stress.
 
2013-05-21 06:37:46 AM  

sage254: You know, guys, Moscow arms against nuclear attack by building 5000 brand new bomb shelters for general population.
They say that current shelters can protect only half of the population, so they want to upgrade that.
Switzerland is unique in having enough fallout shelters to accommodate the entire population.
Norway has 25000 bomb shelters for population, and they are trying to build more.
Sweden, Germany and others have built bomb shelters for their population too.

So I have a question: HOW COME, the United States government did not (during the Cold War) and does not currently build fallout shelters for the general population?

If Moscow is building up more and so does Western Europe, than the threat still exists, right?

they dident "build"

many, but they did convert lots of stury structures basements into fall out shelters. the blast isent your biggeswt concern when you arent in the direct path of the bomb. its the fall out. turns out a deep basement, and air filter and some drums of water were cheaper and about as effective for the civ population when it comes to nukes.


by all means though there should be more dedicated public shelters for distaster recovery in every city, people have become shortshort sighted.


/the curch near me still has drums of water in the basement from the cold war
//csb.
 
2013-05-21 06:38:57 AM  
damn shouldent drink and type.... read my previous posts at your own risk.
 
2013-05-21 06:43:11 AM  
Adults: Kids with more money.

/Those are pretty cool until the biological organisms (people) start crapping and farting and sweating. Then the bacteria finish the job.
 
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