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2013-05-20 10:24:58 PM
Ooook-lahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain!

/sorry
 
2013-05-20 10:24:59 PM

Aigoo: After having spent  part of my afternoon in a laundry cupboard, I'm one very thankful farkette right now. That massive tornado dissipated less than a mile from my house. I literally cannot remember ever being more thankful for anything in my life.

/gutted seeing Moore
//more thankful that my friends in Moore are miraculously unharmed--their house is one of five in their development still standing


*hugs*
 
2013-05-20 10:25:30 PM
structural damage in poteau, ok, power flashes reported in alma, ar. likely long track tornado in s. of fort smith area.
 
2013-05-20 10:25:49 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Bunny Deville: GWSuperfan: BarkingUnicorn: Bunny Deville: If we're under a warning here, they'll hold the kids in school until it passes. Car riders can go if they want, but walkers and bus riders have to stay in until the warning is over.

Whoever wrote that policy hasn't seen what tornadoes do to cars, I guess.

I think it's more that once they're in the car, they are the parent's responsibility and not the school's

Pretty much this.

But what kids do off-campus is subject to school regulation if it disrupts the educational process.  Classmates who die do that.


You have to balance the risk of disruption against the risk of parents screaming to the media that the school is holding their children hostage, and potentially getting lawyers and suing the school district.
 
2013-05-20 10:26:07 PM
Looks like Moore is going to get hit with some heavy rain shortly. Just what they need. Working in the dark and pouring rain.
 
2013-05-20 10:27:53 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'll bet we are doing a hell of a lot better than we were a hundred years ago. I can't imagine what the cost would be if we had yesterday's technology and today's residential density. These super outbreaks are tragic in every way. At least we know that there are people working all over to warn people and minimize damage before hand and save lives after the fact.

\and I'm not schooling you, I just happened to remember that post.

Ya, now we all make fun of that tornado movie but something (non-hollywood) like that did happen and every year the prediction and such get's better.
Hell a meteorologist in my town came up with Baron Services which made a huge difference in forecasting.


Yeah. I remember growing up, and we'd have what? Three minutes, tops?

And if the tornado came at night?

Screwed.

I'm glad things have gotten better, but we've still got a ways to go, and I don't think we'll ever be able to predict the exact path, unfortunately.
 
2013-05-20 10:28:04 PM

NightOwl2255: Looks like Moore is going to get hit with some heavy rain shortly. Just what they need. Working in the dark and pouring rain.


oh wow, a cell literally popped up right over Moore in the last few minutes.  I was about to post something to the effect of "what are you smoking" before researching it further...
 
2013-05-20 10:28:26 PM

dumbandilikeit: OddLlama: I'm getting hit by hail now. My brother called to see if I was alright. Apparently a tornado touched down about 3/4 of a mile from me. I was out taking pictures.

/no television...

Weather radio...get one.


Those are a must have.
 
2013-05-20 10:28:36 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Yesterday  Great Porn Dragonwas saying "
(Bangladesh, in case you're curious, is about the only place in the world that has the level of tornadogenesis that exists in the Tornado Alleys in the US.just do not exist in Bangladesh) and at least one tornado has caused over 1300 deaths as recently as 1989.  If the Jarrell tornado had hit in Dallas, it'deasily dwarf that death toll, sadly.)"


Yeah, but "death toll" isn't a good measure of severity when Bangladesh is involved.  Somebody slams a door hard and a building falls over.  It rains mud every day and they have poisonous snakes like America has squirrels.  Their water treatment plants are also their sewage treatment plants, and the direction of flow to and from varies arbitrarily.
 
2013-05-20 10:29:26 PM
Here is someone climbing out of a shelter and filming the aftermath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbhnPfEvF8
 
2013-05-20 10:29:45 PM

way south: lousy screw: How many times have I heard some Fark cop-hater say, "We don't need no Moore police"?

Cops don't specialize in digging through rubble.


They do however specialize in finding bodies.
 
2013-05-20 10:30:00 PM

IronTom: and in quantity the price should go down.


Eh I'm not very convinced. Basements are already pretty common (not everywhere in the country, but the areas where they aren't common have good reasons for that), so it's not like significant excavations are currently a specialty item.
 
2013-05-20 10:30:15 PM
Guys, keep fingers crossed. It appears that the 4th,5th,6th graders were OUT of Plaza Towers Elementary at the time. They weren't there.

20-30 kids absent is a typical day for a large elementary school. So there is a chance that those kids might not have been there also.

Cross everything you got and pray.
 
2013-05-20 10:30:52 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: dumbandilikeit: OddLlama: I'm getting hit by hail now. My brother called to see if I was alright. Apparently a tornado touched down about 3/4 of a mile from me. I was out taking pictures.

/no television...

Weather radio...get one.

Those are a must have.


Not trying to advertise for one particular store but homeland stores are real good about getting a good supply of these in about early March
 
2013-05-20 10:31:06 PM

Vodka Zombie: tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'll bet we are doing a hell of a lot better than we were a hundred years ago. I can't imagine what the cost would be if we had yesterday's technology and today's residential density. These super outbreaks are tragic in every way. At least we know that there are people working all over to warn people and minimize damage before hand and save lives after the fact.

\and I'm not schooling you, I just happened to remember that post.

Ya, now we all make fun of that tornado movie but something (non-hollywood) like that did happen and every year the prediction and such get's better.
Hell a meteorologist in my town came up with Baron Services which made a huge difference in forecasting.

Yeah. I remember growing up, and we'd have what? Three minutes, tops?

And if the tornado came at night?

Screwed.

I'm glad things have gotten better, but we've still got a ways to go, and I don't think we'll ever be able to predict the exact path, unfortunately.


So true.
 
2013-05-20 10:32:14 PM

I_C_Weener: Yeah.  My recollection was that tornadoes were something new to the Europeans immigrating to the US.


At the risk of boring everybody with something I posted in yesterday's tornado thread... A London grad student at KU arrived in Lawrence, KS, just 4 days before a tornado knocked around an apartment complex and some houses on the southwest edge of town.  All of us locals (at the pub, of course) just ran outside and looked at the funky sky.  London-girl curled up under a table and cried.  All she knew about Kansas was that tornadoes kill everybody.
 
2013-05-20 10:32:17 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: [proxy.storify.com image 600x450]

Moore Medical Center


I have no words.
 
2013-05-20 10:32:20 PM

Aquapope: Uchiha_Cycliste: Yesterday  Great Porn Dragonwas saying "
(Bangladesh, in case you're curious, is about the only place in the world that has the level of tornadogenesis that exists in the Tornado Alleys in the US.just do not exist in Bangladesh) and at least one tornado has caused over 1300 deaths as recently as 1989.  If the Jarrell tornado had hit in Dallas, it'deasily dwarf that death toll, sadly.)"

Yeah, but "death toll" isn't a good measure of severity when Bangladesh is involved.  Somebody slams a door hard and a building falls over.  It rains mud every day and they have poisonous snakes like America has squirrels.  Their water treatment plants are also their sewage treatment plants, and the direction of flow to and from varies arbitrarily.


Their natural groundwater is also heavily saturated with arsenic in many areas. They achieved independence from India but to me often seems like India just went "You cost too much and have too many problems, go away." And flooding is often and extreme.
 
2013-05-20 10:32:41 PM

dumbandilikeit: Agree. So annoying when people say "MOVE". There is not a place on earth that isn't at risk for disasters. And if there was such a place, doubt we could all fit there.


Also agreed.  Even though my area of the US(SW Ohio) isn't exactly prone to many major disasters, it's not as if they *wont* happen.

Hurricanes: Very rare - but Ike managed to get its way over here to Southwest Ohio in 2008.
Tornadoes: None in my neck of the woods, since they all seem to go to the east or south.
Floods: Probably the only reliable disaster that could happen for being next to a river.
 
2013-05-20 10:32:49 PM

candiru.fish: //Shout out to the Denton Farkers, I spent the weekend there, LOVE that town


Yes! I love hearing this!


Random Name Generator: structural damage in poteau, ok, power flashes reported in alma, ar. likely long track tornado in s. of fort smith area.


Fark. I have a friend whose family is in Alma. Do I bug him now to see if everyone's ok or maybe I should wait until tomorrow.


NightOwl2255: Looks like Moore is going to get hit with some heavy rain shortly. Just what they need. Working in the dark and pouring rain.


Dammit Mother Nature, let up for godsakes. Damn.
 
2013-05-20 10:32:56 PM

Artcurus: Guys, keep fingers crossed. It appears that the 4th,5th,6th graders were OUT of Plaza Towers Elementary at the time. They weren't there.

20-30 kids absent is a typical day for a large elementary school. So there is a chance that those kids might not have been there also.

Cross everything you got and pray.


Yes, reports are going up, down...
 
2013-05-20 10:33:03 PM
I used to live in Midwest City so this hurts... I hope all my old friends are still doing okay. I've never seen anything like this.
 
2013-05-20 10:33:05 PM

reillan: NightOwl2255: Looks like Moore is going to get hit with some heavy rain shortly. Just what they need. Working in the dark and pouring rain.

oh wow, a cell literally popped up right over Moore in the last few minutes.  I was about to post something to the effect of "what are you smoking" before researching it further...


Well, it's more like what am I drinking, but I'm watching our local station and they showed the radar.
 
2013-05-20 10:33:17 PM

Artcurus: Guys, keep fingers crossed. It appears that the 4th,5th,6th graders were OUT of Plaza Towers Elementary at the time. They weren't there.

20-30 kids absent is a typical day for a large elementary school. So there is a chance that those kids might not have been there also.

Cross everything you got and pray.


It does seem odd that we've been hearing about these 20-30 kids for several hours now and there's still no confirmation of anything beyond those 7.  Hopefully the longer it goes the less likely the estimated numbers of dead will be met.
 
2013-05-20 10:35:02 PM

Theory Of Null: Here is someone climbing out of a shelter and filming the aftermath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbhnPfEvF8


"The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away."

Would that I be able to keep myself calm as he did.
 
2013-05-20 10:35:50 PM

Vodka Zombie: tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: I'll bet we are doing a hell of a lot better than we were a hundred years ago. I can't imagine what the cost would be if we had yesterday's technology and today's residential density. These super outbreaks are tragic in every way. At least we know that there are people working all over to warn people and minimize damage before hand and save lives after the fact.

\and I'm not schooling you, I just happened to remember that post.

Ya, now we all make fun of that tornado movie but something (non-hollywood) like that did happen and every year the prediction and such get's better.
Hell a meteorologist in my town came up with Baron Services which made a huge difference in forecasting.

Yeah. I remember growing up, and we'd have what? Three minutes, tops?

And if the tornado came at night?

Screwed.

I'm glad things have gotten better, but we've still got a ways to go, and I don't think we'll ever be able to predict the exact path, unfortunately.


It's great how science marches on. It makes me wish I could still be around hundreds of years from now when we have (practically) infinite computing power for our weather models. Will we be able to model and predict exactly when and where tornadoes will strike down? Will we have totally weather proof housing? The future is going to be amazing.
 
2013-05-20 10:36:06 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: Moore Medical Center


Wrong picture... its the shopping center.
 
2013-05-20 10:36:50 PM

Di Atribe: candiru.fish: //Shout out to the Denton Farkers, I spent the weekend there, LOVE that town

Yes! I love hearing this!


Random Name Generator: structural damage in poteau, ok, power flashes reported in alma, ar. likely long track tornado in s. of fort smith area.

Fark. I have a friend whose family is in Alma. Do I bug him now to see if everyone's ok or maybe I should wait until tomorrow.

Looking at the radar, the hook is definitely not like Moore. I think there are two tracks - one at N. Ft. Smith going north of Alma, and one going from Poteau, OK, to S. Ft. Smith, to Charleston, AR. That makes more sense.

 
2013-05-20 10:37:14 PM

jimmyjackfunk: tinfoil-hat maggie: dumbandilikeit: OddLlama: I'm getting hit by hail now. My brother called to see if I was alright. Apparently a tornado touched down about 3/4 of a mile from me. I was out taking pictures.

/no television...

Weather radio...get one.

Those are a must have.

Not trying to advertise for one particular store but homeland stores are real good about getting a good supply of these in about early March


I think mine came from the grocery store Publix it's a "Midland" brand and I love it I have it set to only give me warning for my county.
/Just saying everyone should have one
//But the fact they sell them at the grocery store shows how seriously we take stuff like this.
 
2013-05-20 10:37:17 PM

punk.canuck: as someone who was in a city that got hit by a major tornado, I understand what a tragedy this is.

But why is the death toll so high?  does nobody have basements?  were schools actually built in a tornado zone without appropriate survival plans?

I don't understand, a few whackos go out and shoot up schools, and all of a sudden teachers need to be armed, and police need to be stationed in schools, people talk about changing firearm laws on a national level, some even question your contitution.

But a few tornado's kill apparently what is upwards of 20 kids, and the response is:  It's too expensive.

Tornado shelters are trivial,  dig a hole, put in some supports and roof and cover it in dirt.  hell put a baseball diamond or soccer field on top of it.  it doesn't even need to be wasted space, put in appropriate lights and put a bunch of classrooms in it.


Enjoy hitting bedrock a couple three feet down.
 
2013-05-20 10:37:56 PM

Theory Of Null: Kotecks


Neighbor has a shelter. It was guaranteed without it. Oklahoma doesn't do basements so you have to have tiny shelters.

Triumph: Kotecks


We have power and internet but oddly no water. The pump station got wrecked. Urge to drink urine rising...

megarian: Kotecks


It is odd to watch National television cover a huge event like this and realize you live down the street from it and recognize everything. It becomes far less detached.
 
2013-05-20 10:38:16 PM

ArtosRC: Theory Of Null: Here is someone climbing out of a shelter and filming the aftermath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbhnPfEvF8

"The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away."

Would that I be able to keep myself calm as he did.


I think in that case I'd just be thankful my family was alive.  but definitely it's impressive that he was not only able to keep calm but to think about it rationally.  I do wonder if that wasn't his first time out of the shelter - if he had maybe emerged, looked around, gotten it out of his system, and come up again.
 
2013-05-20 10:39:18 PM

Aigoo: After having spent  part of my afternoon in a laundry cupboard, I'm one very thankful farkette right now. That massive tornado dissipated less than a mile from my house. I literally cannot remember ever being more thankful for anything in my life.

/gutted seeing Moore
//more thankful that my friends in Moore are miraculously unharmed--their house is one of five in their development still standing



WOOOHOOOO!

Glad you came through!
 
2013-05-20 10:39:32 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Will we be able to model and predict exactly when and where tornadoes will strike down?


I kind of doubt it. Weather is chaotic enough that more computing power only helps to some extent; you need to start from good observations about the current state as well. I'd guess we'd need significant advances in that as well.

I'd bet more that we'd be able to have some measure of  control -- this might even be easier than prediction in some sense.
 
2013-05-20 10:39:48 PM

J. Frank Parnell: way south: lousy screw: How many times have I heard some Fark cop-hater say, "We don't need no Moore police"?

Cops don't specialize in digging through rubble.

They do however specialize in finding bodies.


Anyone specializes in something like that when it comes down to it, it's what makes us great as human beings. We do this when we have to to save our own.
 
2013-05-20 10:40:12 PM

sethstorm: Tornadoes: None in my neck of the woods, since they all seem to go to the east or south.


Please tell me where in SW Ohio you are where you have not had a tornado within 10 miles?
 
2013-05-20 10:40:51 PM

evaned: IronTom: and in quantity the price should go down.

Eh I'm not very convinced. Basements are already pretty common (not everywhere in the country, but the areas where they aren't common have good reasons for that), so it's not like significant excavations are currently a specialty item.


I don't know if there is truth to this but I was told the reason you don't see too many basements in Oklahoma unless it is in a building designed for something major is because the ground shifts too much (not necessarily earthquakes but the consistency of the soil) now I have seen plenty of the in ground shelters either the ground zero variety or the ones that most of the oil rigs use now that basically look like a concrete box with a door and exhaust vent and when the rigs are set up a hole its dug they are set in and filled in up to the door leaving only the vent exposed. Supposedly after the bad one a few years back couple of rig hands were killed when there was nowhere to go the oil companies mandated these be installed. What seems wasteful is a company man told me when they are done drilling they take a bulldozer and collapse them in because they don't want to dig then out. Guess cozy of concrete is cheaper than the labor involved in digging them out and moving them
 
2013-05-20 10:41:19 PM

bkosh84: I used to live in Midwest City so this hurts... I hope all my old friends are still doing okay. I've never seen anything like this.


Me too... stationed at Tinker, went to school at OU when I got out, was there during the bombing, also lived on the north side, south side, west side, and Norman.
Left the day after the previous big one hit Moore.
 
2013-05-20 10:41:34 PM

FunkOut: Aquapope: Uchiha_Cycliste: Yesterday  Great Porn Dragonwas saying "
(Bangladesh, in case you're curious, is about the only place in the world that has the level of tornadogenesis that exists in the Tornado Alleys in the US.just do not exist in Bangladesh) and at least one tornado has caused over 1300 deaths as recently as 1989.  If the Jarrell tornado had hit in Dallas, it'deasily dwarf that death toll, sadly.)"

Yeah, but "death toll" isn't a good measure of severity when Bangladesh is involved.  Somebody slams a door hard and a building falls over.  It rains mud every day and they have poisonous snakes like America has squirrels.  Their water treatment plants are also their sewage treatment plants, and the direction of flow to and from varies arbitrarily.

Their natural groundwater is also heavily saturated with arsenic in many areas. They achieved independence from India but to me often seems like India just went "You cost too much and have too many problems, go away." And flooding is often and extreme.


8th in population, 9th in pop. density. 94th in area and 44 in GDP. I can see how that adds up to disasters
 
2013-05-20 10:41:37 PM
There should be a prize for designing affordable tornado-proof housing.
 
2013-05-20 10:42:02 PM
View from right by my house as it passed just south.

imageshack.us
 
2013-05-20 10:42:28 PM

Theory Of Null: Here is someone climbing out of a shelter and filming the aftermath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbhnPfEvF8


Holy shiat. That is one chill dude.
 
2013-05-20 10:43:29 PM

Kotecks: View from right by my house as it passed just south.


Yeppers, that's pants shiatting time.
 
2013-05-20 10:44:19 PM
Heartbreaking pic...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-20 10:44:47 PM
Looks like I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue
 
2013-05-20 10:44:58 PM

Shadow Blasko: sethstorm: Tornadoes: None in my neck of the woods, since they all seem to go to the east or south.

Please tell me where in SW Ohio you are where you have not had a tornado within 10 miles?


Wasn't there a tornado in Xenia or whatever back in the 1920's or 1930's that was the deadliest in history,?
 
2013-05-20 10:44:58 PM
Damn sucks. Bad news. Wish best for all.

Charities -
Do the normal Red Cross, Salvation Army, any local ones is great.

Please. if possible - Flip a few $ to the local animal shelters. ( I have no links to them)
They will need help too. More than they can handle.
The critters need some Love too.

Another Farker asked way up from this - Can a Tornado eat up the road? Or something of the kind.
Yes they can.
They can consume the road. Even your house concret slab. Depends on the Tornados feedings.
They are the shop vac of the Gods.

For Fark - Yes, I have to do a "nasty". This is Fark.

OOOOk-lahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain  ... OMG WTF!!!
Sorry. As said, this is Fark.

Please think of the critters and help them too.
 
2013-05-20 10:45:27 PM

carnifex2005: Heartbreaking pic...

[i.imgur.com image 850x505]


You .. Magnificent bastard. You managed to make me laugh after all of this.

/Didn't think it could happen.
 
2013-05-20 10:45:51 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: It's great how science marches on. It makes me wish I could still be around hundreds of years from now when we have (practically) infinite computing power for our weather models. Will we be able to model and predict exactly when and where tornadoes will strike down? Will we have totally weather proof housing? The future is going to be amazing.


I don't think it will ever be perfect unless there's some sort of time travel. I mean so many chaotic variables
But to have these things down to a cone of probability and really a thunderstorm warning on days like this should be understood as a tornado may form and they have cones of probability for those.
/And really the warning time has increased so much, it's amazing.
 
2013-05-20 10:45:52 PM

carnifex2005: Heartbreaking pic...

[i.imgur.com image 850x505]


Too soon, jerk.
 
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