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2013-05-20 09:52:58 PM  

PacificaFitz: Taylor Mental: Minarets: Taylor Mental: Shadow Blasko: Taylor Mental: I see the Fark Modmins waited 3 hours to greenlight a breaking news thread about sh*t that could kill you.

I see you don't know shiat about shiat.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7758955  Posted at 4:03.

/favorited!filed

Blah blah blah. It's clearly marked when it happened. What happened on TF means jack to nobody else.

It hit the main page at 3:03 central time.

[m.uploadedit.com image 640x480]

This radar loop starts at 3:02.  It was on the ground and about to hit Moore at that time.

Nice, that's when it was a tornado, not when it was actually breaking news. Thanks for the effort.

wtf do you want?


Attention.
 
2013-05-20 09:52:58 PM  

DesktopHippie: BBC have put up a handful of photos of the damage and rescue efforts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22605020

That looks pretty farked up.


That last photo disturbed the hell out of me. It's like an entire town was wiped off the face of the earth. :~(
 
2013-05-20 09:53:48 PM  

punk.canuck: But why is the death toll so high? does nobody have basements? were schools actually built in a tornado zone without appropriate survival plans?


This has been asked & answered about five times in this thread. Read back.

And there's no such thing as a "tornado zone." All of Oklahoma is a tornado zone.
 
2013-05-20 09:54:01 PM  

punk.canuck: as someone who was in a city that got hit by a major tornado, I understand what a tragedy this is.

But why is the death toll so high?  does nobody have basements?  were schools actually built in a tornado zone without appropriate survival plans?

I don't understand, a few whackos go out and shoot up schools, and all of a sudden teachers need to be armed, and police need to be stationed in schools, people talk about changing firearm laws on a national level, some even question your contitution.

But a few tornado's kill apparently what is upwards of 20 kids, and the response is:  It's too expensive.

Tornado shelters are trivial,  dig a hole, put in some supports and roof and cover it in dirt.  hell put a baseball diamond or soccer field on top of it.  it doesn't even need to be wasted space, put in appropriate lights and put a bunch of classrooms in it.


It's my understanding that the thing hit during rush hour/what would normally be later elementary school dismissals, and what happened in the school was basically a horrible fluke. :(  (And actually, a proper tornado shelter is a bit more than "dig a hole and put some supports in"; in the parts of the country that have frequent tornadoes, how to build a tornado shelter is considered in the local building codes.  It's also my understanding that Oklahoma actually has some pretty stringent standards requiring SOME form of tornado shelter in schools and most major buildings.)

Hopefully the news coming out that all the missing kids might not still be trapped is verified.  (I'm actually hoping that some parents may have collected their kids early from school and haven't yet been able to contact the school because communications are utter shiat right now.)
 
2013-05-20 09:54:02 PM  
A rescuer is asking for an available emergency vet. He found a dog bleeding out.
God I want to help.
 
2013-05-20 09:54:02 PM  

Kotecks: Tornado passed within one mile of my house. No damage and my family is safe. Utter devastation down the street. We were planning on going shopping today, now those stores aren't even there.


Glad you and yours are safe. Hope to hear the same from many more.
 
2013-05-20 09:54:12 PM  
You guys should try to ignore the tornados and stop making new threads about them.

Giving them lots of attention for this behavior just encourages them to act out more and things will get even WORSE!!!
 
2013-05-20 09:54:16 PM  
Not being snarky but I hope the injured people have good health insurance. I suspect that a lot of families will have to declare bankruptcy.
 
2013-05-20 09:54:40 PM  

Kotecks: Tornado passed within one mile of my house. No damage and my family is safe. Utter devastation down the street. We were planning on going shopping today, now those stores aren't even there.


I'm glad you and your family are safe!
 
2013-05-20 09:54:46 PM  

Shadow Blasko: punk.canuck: Tornado shelters are trivial, dig a hole, put in some supports and roof and cover it in dirt.

Well, you go do that.

Let me know how it works out,.


Yep, some places it's more difficult than others and also remember a tornadic supercell can dump inch's of rain very quickly so you have to figure out drainage or drown in you're storm shelter.
/Show you're work : (
 
2013-05-20 09:54:56 PM  
Thank you for all your support.

/sipping whisky
//told us to stay put.
///dedicated to anyone who lost someone
 
2013-05-20 09:55:07 PM  
Remember the Greensburg Kansas F5 monster? Didn't kill anybody as far as I remember.
 
2013-05-20 09:55:19 PM  

mrlewish: Not being snarky but I hope the injured people have good health insurance. I suspect that a lot of families will have to declare bankruptcy.


That and THEY HAVE NO HOME.
 
2013-05-20 09:55:30 PM  

I_C_Weener: I_C_Weener: Aquapope: I heard years ago that something like 95% of tornadoes IN THE WORLD happen in the US, and most of those happen in the lower plains states and along the gulf coast.  Is that true?  I know the plains are perfectly configured for it - nothing to stop cooler air from the north, nothing to stop moist air from the gulf, etc.  But we can't be the only perfect tornado breeding ground in the world, can we?

Meteorology nerds help a Kansan out here.

[www.boston.com image 450x250]

And yes.  The US is more prone to it because:

[www.boston.com image 400x173]

"In terms of absolute tornado counts, the United States leads the list, with an average of over 1,000 tornadoes recorded each year. A distant second is Canada, with around 100 per year. Other locations that experience frequent tornado occurrences include northern Europe, western Asia, Bangladesh, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, China, South Africa and Argentina. In fact, the United Kingdom has more tornadoes, relative to its land area, than any other country. Fortunately, most UK tornadoes are relatively weak. "


There have been a few pretty intense ones in Italy in the last year.
 
2013-05-20 09:55:34 PM  

melopene: Begoggle: skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.

The best option is to directly give the things that are needed to those who need them, but obviously this isn't possible for everyone.
I don't like the way Red Cross or a lot of big charities operate, but they are the best option for now.

Again, I highly recommend Mennonite Disaster Services,  http://www.mds.mennonite.net/. Those people are amazing, and they really impressed me after the Alabama tornadoes two years ago.


I would also highly recommend Christian Aid Ministries (CAM)  https://www.christianaidministries.org/  This is a group of plain Mennonite/Amish/Beachy Amish group.

/Ex Mennonite
//just about went and help in deep south over 12 years ago, but serous family issue was in the way.
///still give money to CAM.
 
2013-05-20 09:55:52 PM  

Di Atribe: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: I'm moving to Denton this fall to get my Ph. D. at UNT. So that's cool.

Really!? Cool! I may be a bit biased, but Denton is pretty rad. What's your field of study?


Don't know anything about the school, but they do have a pretty new football stadium. You do have to cross I35 to get to it though.
 
2013-05-20 09:56:25 PM  

Kotecks: Tornado passed within one mile of my house. No damage and my family is safe. Utter devastation down the street. We were planning on going shopping today, now those stores aren't even there.


good to know you are safe. Where did you hide out at?
 
2013-05-20 09:56:27 PM  

Di Atribe: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: I'm moving to Denton this fall to get my Ph. D. at UNT. So that's cool.

Really!? Cool! I may be a bit biased, but Denton is pretty rad. What's your field of study?


Political Science. I'm really looking forward to the opportunity. I hope Texas treats me nicely.
 
2013-05-20 09:56:45 PM  

I_C_Weener: I_C_Weener: Aquapope: I heard years ago that something like 95% of tornadoes IN THE WORLD happen in the US, and most of those happen in the lower plains states and along the gulf coast.  Is that true?  I know the plains are perfectly configured for it - nothing to stop cooler air from the north, nothing to stop moist air from the gulf, etc.  But we can't be the only perfect tornado breeding ground in the world, can we?

Meteorology nerds help a Kansan out here.

[www.boston.com image 450x250]

And yes.  The US is more prone to it because:

[www.boston.com image 400x173]

"In terms of absolute tornado counts, the United States leads the list, with an average of over 1,000 tornadoes recorded each year. A distant second is Canada, with around 100 per year. Other locations that experience frequent tornado occurrences include northern Europe, western Asia, Bangladesh, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, China, South Africa and Argentina. In fact, the United Kingdom has more tornadoes, relative to its land area, than any other country. Fortunately, most UK tornadoes are relatively weak. "


Yesterday  Great Porn Dragonwas saying "
(Bangladesh, in case you're curious, is about the only place in the world that has the level of tornadogenesis that exists in the Tornado Alleys in the US.just do not exist in Bangladesh) and at least one tornado has caused over 1300 deaths as recently as 1989.  If the Jarrell tornado had hit in Dallas, it'deasily dwarf that death toll, sadly.)"
 
2013-05-20 09:56:55 PM  

StandsWithAFist: DesktopHippie: BBC have put up a handful of photos of the damage and rescue efforts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22605020

That looks pretty farked up.

That last photo disturbed the hell out of me. It's like an entire town was wiped off the face of the earth. :~(


It WAS!
 
2013-05-20 09:57:00 PM  

DesktopHippie: I_C_Weener: Aquapope: I heard years ago that something like 95% of tornadoes IN THE WORLD happen in the US, and most of those happen in the lower plains states and along the gulf coast.  Is that true?  I know the plains are perfectly configured for it - nothing to stop cooler air from the north, nothing to stop moist air from the gulf, etc.  But we can't be the only perfect tornado breeding ground in the world, can we?

Meteorology nerds help a Kansan out here.

[www.boston.com image 450x250]

And yes.  The US is more prone to it because:

[www.boston.com image 400x173]

To be fair, tornadoes in Ireland are barely worth mentioning. We get some in the midlands, which are never large and blow themselves out pretty quickly. We've had far more damage (and a few fatalities) from ordinary storms.

Someone captured a seriously cool looking tornado on video last year, which was hovering over the sea.


Yeah.  My recollection was that tornadoes were something new to the Europeans immigrating to the US.  What I just read is that South America has a few serious ones, and Bangladesh (along with all kinds of killer weather) has some.  But the European ones must be pretty mild comparatively.
 
2013-05-20 09:57:00 PM  

Tom_Slick: SuperNinjaToad: Can some farker overlay maps of tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquake, volcano etc and tell me where the safest city to live in to avoid natural disasters already?

Bangor Maine


Too many bears
 
2013-05-20 09:57:49 PM  
Tirw
 
2013-05-20 09:57:55 PM  

Shadow Blasko: And you get embedded tornadoes (usually not more than an EF1 or 2.. but that will still remodel the HELL out of your house) INSIDE the hurricanes.



Typical from several years ago when the record amount of hurricanes came through -- after the main storm passed it'd be tornado warning after warning if you were on the wrong edge of the storm.


That and lots of lightning outside the main storm itself.
 
2013-05-20 09:58:23 PM  

Aquapope: I heard years ago that something like 95% of tornadoes IN THE WORLD happen in the US, and most of those happen in the lower plains states and along the gulf coast.  Is that true?  I know the plains are perfectly configured for it - nothing to stop cooler air from the north, nothing to stop moist air from the gulf, etc.  But we can't be the only perfect tornado breeding ground in the world, can we?

Meteorology nerds help a Kansan out here.


Certainly not the only breeding ground for it, as they happen on every continent except Antarctica, but yes, about 90% of the nation's tornadoes are in the Alley (Plains/Gulf, like you said). The overall percentage of U.S. versus the world is a bit closer to 70 or 80%, I believe. Oddly enough, while Oklahoma has the most annual twisters, Florida has the most per square mile of state, whereas the UK of all places has the most per square mile (km?) of nation.
 
2013-05-20 09:58:48 PM  

The Incredible Sexual Egg: SuperNinjaToad: One Bad Apple: zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe

[www.physicalgeography.net image 580x400]


It is just a question of which natural disaster do you want to endue

Can some farker overlay maps of tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquake, volcano etc and tell me where the safest city to live in to avoid natural disasters already?

I don't have the map you requested, but Hawaii is actually the safest state when it comes to natural disasters


Until the mega-tsunami.
 
2013-05-20 09:58:56 PM  

ontariolightning: Remember the Greensburg Kansas F5 monster? Didn't kill anybody as far as I remember.


It killed 11
 
2013-05-20 10:00:06 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: It's my understanding that the thing hit during rush hour/what would normally be later elementary school dismissals, and what happened in the school was basically a horrible fluke. :(


Tornado was on the ground from about 3:00-3:30. That's right about when schools let out.
 
2013-05-20 10:00:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I don't know about him, but I live in Buffalo and in my 29 years I have never heard of anyone dying from any storms here.


No one dies in blizzards?
1977

/I grew up 80 miles east of where you are
 
2013-05-20 10:00:25 PM  

I_C_Weener: DesktopHippie: I_C_Weener: Aquapope: I heard years ago that something like 95% of tornadoes IN THE WORLD happen in the US, and most of those happen in the lower plains states and along the gulf coast.  Is that true?  I know the plains are perfectly configured for it - nothing to stop cooler air from the north, nothing to stop moist air from the gulf, etc.  But we can't be the only perfect tornado breeding ground in the world, can we?

Meteorology nerds help a Kansan out here.

[www.boston.com image 450x250]

And yes.  The US is more prone to it because:

[www.boston.com image 400x173]

To be fair, tornadoes in Ireland are barely worth mentioning. We get some in the midlands, which are never large and blow themselves out pretty quickly. We've had far more damage (and a few fatalities) from ordinary storms.

Someone captured a seriously cool looking tornado on video last year, which was hovering over the sea.

Yeah.  My recollection was that tornadoes were something new to the Europeans immigrating to the US.  What I just read is that South America has a few serious ones, and Bangladesh (along with all kinds of killer weather) has some.  But the European ones must be pretty mild comparatively.


As a kid I didn't know Ireland had tornadoes until I read a book about a horse called Connemara Whirlwind, which described the small, sudden tornadoes that occasionally blow through the remoter regions of Kerry.
 
2013-05-20 10:00:37 PM  

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: Di Atribe: olddinosaur: You lived in WF? I moved there in 1965, graduated MU in 1972 and left in 1974---took me two years to save up the money. The tornado killed about six people I knew.

I came back for a visit in 2011, nothing much had changed.

Yup. Was born there & grew up there. I moved to Denton to go to college & have been here ever since. My parents are still there so I go back a few times a year. And nope, not much changes! They built some new stuff on the south & west sides of town, but other than that, same ol' same ol'.


Lt. Cheese Weasel: Hold that thought, and realize what you know vs what mother nature knows is squat

Oh I am well aware that I got nothin on Mama Nature. I try to learn as much as I can, but I know it's less than the tip of the iceberg.

I'm moving to Denton this fall to get my Ph. D. at UNT. So that's cool.


Denton is a cesspit of debauchery and orgiastic phantasmaghoripical activity.  Been there, done that.
 
2013-05-20 10:00:51 PM  
media.heavy.com
 
2013-05-20 10:01:00 PM  
I_C_Weener:

Yeah.  My recollection was that tornadoes were something new to the Europeans immigrating to the US.  What I just read is that South America has a few serious ones, and Bangladesh (along with all kinds of killer weather) has some.  But the European ones must be pretty mild comparatively.

Most American tornadoes are in the F0-F1 range.
 
2013-05-20 10:01:03 PM  
One of my best friends in the world is an ER doc at Integris Southwest Medical Center in OKC, and a Farker.  Just talked to him this morning, he said he thought this storm was not going to be that bad.  I'm guessing he's up to his arse in alligators right now.  Can't thing of anyone I'd rather have around when the shiat hits the fan, though.  Think a good thought for him and his colleagues.
 
2013-05-20 10:01:15 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: Shadow Blasko: Civil_War2_Time: Shadow Blasko: Krustofsky: According to AccuWeather, Fort Worth is under a tornado watch but Dallas is not.  However, everything to the north, west, and southwest of Dallas (almost to San Antonio) is under a tornado watch.

That cell to the SW of the DFW area is just freaking STATIONARY. It's just been sitting there churning in place for almost an hour I think,.

Wunderground precipitation estimation is already 10-12 inches.

Oh assballs. MASSIVE flooding.

It's not over, either. 65 dBZ reflectivity is happening right now over that exact area. That's 3-4 inches/hr, so it might very well be a legit 10+ inches of rain in 2-3 hours. Massive flooding indeed.


got a bud in brownwood, they are taking a beating
 
2013-05-20 10:01:36 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: Di Atribe: olddinosaur: You lived in WF? I moved there in 1965, graduated MU in 1972 and left in 1974---took me two years to save up the money. The tornado killed about six people I knew.

I came back for a visit in 2011, nothing much had changed.

Yup. Was born there & grew up there. I moved to Denton to go to college & have been here ever since. My parents are still there so I go back a few times a year. And nope, not much changes! They built some new stuff on the south & west sides of town, but other than that, same ol' same ol'.


Lt. Cheese Weasel: Hold that thought, and realize what you know vs what mother nature knows is squat

Oh I am well aware that I got nothin on Mama Nature. I try to learn as much as I can, but I know it's less than the tip of the iceberg.

I'm moving to Denton this fall to get my Ph. D. at UNT. So that's cool.

Denton is a cesspit of debauchery and orgiastic phantasmaghoripical activity.  Been there, done that.


Oh?

Well, I've been on the internet for a decade and a half, I'd say I'm prepared.
 
2013-05-20 10:01:46 PM  
yes, mankinds worse are out looting.  You can always count on the lowest common denominator to come thru to distract us from natures fury....wonder if it's that Taylor Mental farker....
 
2013-05-20 10:02:19 PM  

Tom_Slick: SuperNinjaToad: Can some farker overlay maps of tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquake, volcano etc and tell me where the safest city to live in to avoid natural disasters already?

Bangor Maine


Snow and ice. Ugly.
 
2013-05-20 10:02:25 PM  

Di Atribe: Great Porn Dragon: It's my understanding that the thing hit during rush hour/what would normally be later elementary school dismissals, and what happened in the school was basically a horrible fluke. :(

Tornado was on the ground from about 3:00-3:30. That's right about when schools let out.


If we're under a warning here, they'll hold the kids in school until it passes. Car riders can go if they want, but walkers and bus riders have to stay in until the warning is over.
 
2013-05-20 10:02:32 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I_C_Weener: I_C_Weener: Aquapope: I heard years ago that something like 95% of tornadoes IN THE WORLD happen in the US, and most of those happen in the lower plains states and along the gulf coast.  Is that true?  I know the plains are perfectly configured for it - nothing to stop cooler air from the north, nothing to stop moist air from the gulf, etc.  But we can't be the only perfect tornado breeding ground in the world, can we?

Meteorology nerds help a Kansan out here.

[www.boston.com image 450x250]

And yes.  The US is more prone to it because:

[www.boston.com image 400x173]

"In terms of absolute tornado counts, the United States leads the list, with an average of over 1,000 tornadoes recorded each year. A distant second is Canada, with around 100 per year. Other locations that experience frequent tornado occurrences include northern Europe, western Asia, Bangladesh, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, China, South Africa and Argentina. In fact, the United Kingdom has more tornadoes, relative to its land area, than any other country. Fortunately, most UK tornadoes are relatively weak. "

Yesterday  Great Porn Dragonwas saying "
(Bangladesh, in case you're curious, is about the only place in the world that has the level of tornadogenesis that exists in the Tornado Alleys in the US.just do not exist in Bangladesh) and at least one tornado has caused over 1300 deaths as recently as 1989.  If the Jarrell tornado had hit in Dallas, it'deasily dwarf that death toll, sadly.)"


Damn, well okay now you're schooling me, I did not know that but 30+ years ago with less than five minutes warning this would have been far worse. The US has a very good warning system. Unfortunately with storms this size it doesn't save everyone.
 
2013-05-20 10:02:47 PM  

Kotecks: Tornado passed within one mile of my house. No damage and my family is safe. Utter devastation down the street. We were planning on going shopping today, now those stores aren't even there.


Wow - you have power and Internet?
 
2013-05-20 10:03:05 PM  

Kotecks: Tornado passed within one mile of my house. No damage and my family is safe. Utter devastation down the street. We were planning on going shopping today, now those stores aren't even there.


Yikes...That must be surreal.

*awkward but earnest internet hug*
 
2013-05-20 10:03:15 PM  

Shadow Blasko: ontariolightning: Remember the Greensburg Kansas F5 monster? Didn't kill anybody as far as I remember.

It killed 11


11 is still astronomically low for the destruction it caused. If you look at the pics it looks like the one from today
 
2013-05-20 10:03:25 PM  

Taylor Mental: Minarets: Taylor Mental: Shadow Blasko: Taylor Mental: I see the Fark Modmins waited 3 hours to greenlight a breaking news thread about sh*t that could kill you.

I see you don't know shiat about shiat.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7758955  Posted at 4:03.

/favorited!filed

Blah blah blah. It's clearly marked when it happened. What happened on TF means jack to nobody else.

It hit the main page at 3:03 central time.

[m.uploadedit.com image 640x480]

This radar loop starts at 3:02.  It was on the ground and about to hit Moore at that time.

Nice, that's when it was a tornado, not when it was actually breaking news. Thanks for the effort.


Taylor, would you like some salsa for that enormous chip on your shoulder?
 
2013-05-20 10:03:32 PM  

NightOwl2255: Don't know anything about the school, but they do have a pretty new football stadium. You do have to cross I35 to get to it though.


Yup. They built a fancy new crosswalk though, so it's all good. Right in the split between 35E & 35W. I guess you could say it's right in the 35 hooha.


Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: Political Science. I'm really looking forward to the opportunity. I hope Texas treats me nicely.


Ooooh I got mixed up in the PoliSci scene for a while. Buncha hooligans, I tell ya!

But really, Denton is cool. It's a little less "Texas" than the surrounding areas. It's still got some "yeehaw" in it, but not too bad. I gots an email in profile if you need anything or have questions!
 
2013-05-20 10:03:39 PM  
 
2013-05-20 10:04:17 PM  
proxy.storify.com

Moore Medical Center
 
2013-05-20 10:04:38 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: If the Jarrell tornado had hit in Dallas, it'deasily dwarf that death toll, sadly.)"


Oh and it does have to do with the structures, not saying an F5 going downton any major city wouldn't be tragic.
 
2013-05-20 10:04:56 PM  

Bunny Deville: Di Atribe: Great Porn Dragon: It's my understanding that the thing hit during rush hour/what would normally be later elementary school dismissals, and what happened in the school was basically a horrible fluke. :(

Tornado was on the ground from about 3:00-3:30. That's right about when schools let out.

If we're under a warning here, they'll hold the kids in school until it passes. Car riders can go if they want, but walkers and bus riders have to stay in until the warning is over.


Schools in the area announced at 2pmCT that they would not be releasing anyone until after all tornado warnings had passed.  So they all were still in the schools.
 
2013-05-20 10:05:07 PM  

Tom_Slick: I've lived through Blizzards, no power for days blizzards. It really wasn't that bad, and when it was over damage was minimal, plus we knew it was coming days in advance and this was in the 70s.


So have I. I grew up there.
My point was, "move to where there are no tornadoes" doesn't really work. In a few months, we'll have "move to where there are no hurricanes!". Then, just after that, earthquakes and fire.
 
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