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2013-05-20 07:21:44 PM
If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?
 
2013-05-20 07:22:25 PM
Praying for our sisters and brothers in OK.  :'(
 
2013-05-20 07:22:46 PM
 
2013-05-20 07:22:48 PM
Oh shiat my local station is reporting several dead found, one of which was a 7/mo old child. Man that sucks. Stay safe OKC farkers :(
 
2013-05-20 07:23:11 PM
4 kids unaccounted for, but three are from the same family.  Betting they were already picked up or never made it to school and the daily attendance is off.
 
2013-05-20 07:23:13 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


Arkansas

/sometimes Missouri
 
2013-05-20 07:23:16 PM
It's blowing into Baja Oklahoma now, practically to Waco.
 
2013-05-20 07:24:07 PM
Moderator sucks!

/oh come on someone had to say it
 
2013-05-20 07:24:13 PM
 
2013-05-20 07:24:14 PM

reklamfox: Oh shiat my local station is reporting several dead found, one of which was a 7/mo old child. Man that sucks. Stay safe OKC farkers :(


That's the 4 dead in a 7-11 story; it does suck but that's the major one I've been hearing so far.  Nothing really confirmed about the kids at the school, but what rumors there are sound hopeful.
 
2013-05-20 07:24:28 PM
Comanche Texas
 
2013-05-20 07:25:00 PM
They're supposedly pulling more children out of the school, alive.
 
2013-05-20 07:25:02 PM
sighs
 
2013-05-20 07:25:12 PM
You know you're a redneck when your house, car, garage, pool are all blown away, but you hang the confederate flag on your broken tree.
/facepalm
 
2013-05-20 07:25:16 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-20 07:25:33 PM

Cytokine Storm: ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?

Arkansas

/sometimes Missouri


Or even worse, Texas.
 
2013-05-20 07:25:37 PM

KhamanV: Nothing really confirmed about the kids at the school, but what rumors there are sound hopeful.


They were talking to a woman on the phone earlier who was talking about children being found, and when they asked if the kids are alright, the woman's voice just started shaking and she said 'No, they're not alright".
 
2013-05-20 07:25:43 PM
Thank Jesus that Omarion was spared...
img10.glitterfy.com
 
2013-05-20 07:25:57 PM

Random Name Generator: [i.imgur.com image 474x320]


Yep... watching that one too...
 
2013-05-20 07:26:03 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


Who cares, its gotta be better than Oklahoma!
 
2013-05-20 07:26:08 PM

Random Name Generator: [i.imgur.com image 474x320]


Oh. Oh that's bad. Does that have a trajectory?

/If that hits DFW central ....
//No, don't wanna think about it
 
2013-05-20 07:26:23 PM

cc_rider: They're supposedly pulling more children out of the school, alive.


Hell-to-the-mfarking-YES!
WOOT!
 
2013-05-20 07:26:56 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


New Zealand?
 
2013-05-20 07:27:14 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


Baltimore?
 
2013-05-20 07:27:14 PM
That live shot of the school practially silenced the anchors
 
2013-05-20 07:27:54 PM
Mike Bettes is so happy that the kids at Briarwood appear to be alright...meanwhile the Weather Channel has practically forgotten about Plaza Towers Elementary.
 
2013-05-20 07:27:57 PM

WhyteRaven74: KhamanV: Nothing really confirmed about the kids at the school, but what rumors there are sound hopeful.

They were talking to a woman on the phone earlier who was talking about children being found, and when they asked if the kids are alright, the woman's voice just started shaking and she said 'No, they're not alright".


The last airborne shot of the school was pointing in that direction.  They were just setting up a litter line over the debris field, but they only have nine or 10 back boards laid out.  If there's dozens of people in there, the implications of that visual aren't great.
 
2013-05-20 07:28:27 PM
To whoever was saying we should all have aboveground shelters... those cost from 8 to 10 grand. We could buy a new car for that kind of money. The only reason we are doing it is because we went through the April 27th tornadoes, and I'm not doing that shiat ever again. Most people can't afford that kind of money. Right now, WE can't afford that kind of money.
 
2013-05-20 07:29:41 PM

ariseatex: Mike Bettes is so happy that the kids at Briarwood appear to be alright...meanwhile the Weather Channel has practically forgotten about Plaza Towers Elementary.


Our local guy is sounding pretty damned grim about Plaza Towers right now.
 
2013-05-20 07:29:45 PM

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: Random Name Generator: [i.imgur.com image 474x320]

Oh. Oh that's bad. Does that have a trajectory?

/If that hits DFW central ....
//No, don't wanna think about it


dunno man, dunno. trajectory's been weird later into the day with these cells with this outbreak.
 
2013-05-20 07:29:47 PM

Warthog: WhyteRaven74: KhamanV: Nothing really confirmed about the kids at the school, but what rumors there are sound hopeful.

They were talking to a woman on the phone earlier who was talking about children being found, and when they asked if the kids are alright, the woman's voice just started shaking and she said 'No, they're not alright".

The last airborne shot of the school was pointing in that direction.  They were just setting up a litter line over the debris field, but they only have nine or 10 back boards laid out.  If there's dozens of people in there, the implications of that visual aren't great.


Nevermind.  They just said it's a debris line.  BUT they're now clearing debris from an area that's about 20 feet over from where they'd been working the past two hours.  Nobody is standing in the area where they'd all been.  That means they'd either been digging in the wrong spot, or...
 
2013-05-20 07:29:48 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


rikers island
 
2013-05-20 07:29:55 PM

Warthog: The last airborne shot of the school was pointing in that direction.


Keep in mind, I'm not sure she was talking about this school, I missed when they said where she is. But from how she sounded, it was bad wherever it was.
 
2013-05-20 07:30:16 PM
I've got family SW of Dallas/Ft Worth in Granbury where that tornado hit a few days ago. Right in line with that Brownwood/Comanche cell.

Not good.
 
2013-05-20 07:30:25 PM

mr lawson: cc_rider: They're supposedly pulling more children out of the school, alive.

Hell-to-the-mfarking-YES!
WOOT!


Here's one from an AP source:

i28.photobucket.com

I hope that makes this thread a little less depressing.
 
2013-05-20 07:30:31 PM
ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


Hell?
 
2013-05-20 07:30:42 PM
Fark.  The school is now a recovery operation, with as many as TWO DOZEN kids still in the school.  RIP little children.
 
2013-05-20 07:31:23 PM
What did SuperChicken always say to Fred when he complained about the danger?
Everybody in Ok is Fred. Backwards F and all.
 
2013-05-20 07:31:30 PM
Church on 19th & Eagle: the children from Plaza can be picked up here.
 
2013-05-20 07:31:34 PM
25+ kids dead.... they're about to pull them out.  :-(
 
2013-05-20 07:31:48 PM

Warthog: Fark.  The school is now a recovery operation, with as many as TWO DOZEN kids still in the school.  RIP little children.


Officially, or did a reporter get the lingo wrong?
 
2013-05-20 07:31:52 PM
Fark.  Just fark.  Fark.

Fark.
 
2013-05-20 07:32:03 PM
Fark me!  2 dozen children possibly dead in the school.
 
2013-05-20 07:32:10 PM
Fort Worth getting ready for our turn in the barrel. I doubt we'll even get rain but that one cell looks menacing and 4 PM-10 PM is when North Texas gets most of its tornaders.
 
2013-05-20 07:32:42 PM

LessO2: Warthog: Fark.  The school is now a recovery operation, with as many as TWO DOZEN kids still in the school.  RIP little children.

Officially, or did a reporter get the lingo wrong?


The reporter was very clear.  And barely able to contain himself.  And he said it with the school behind him, so it'd be a major F-up.  Also, not CNN.
 
2013-05-20 07:32:43 PM

ranold: 25+ kids dead.... they're about to pull them out.  :-(


If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.

/Praying for the best.
 
2013-05-20 07:32:57 PM

ranold: 25+ kids dead.... they're about to pull them out.  :-(


Please let that be misreported.
 
2013-05-20 07:33:09 PM

ranold: 25+ kids dead.... they're about to pull them out.  :-(


fark.
 
2013-05-20 07:33:12 PM
School sitrep is grim.
 
2013-05-20 07:33:23 PM

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: ranold: 25+ kids dead.... they're about to pull them out.  :-(

Please let that be misreported.


Yeah, that, underlined and with a whiskey sour on the side just in case.
 
2013-05-20 07:33:32 PM

aedude01: If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.


I just popped back to check if I heard it right on MSNBC....
 
2013-05-20 07:33:37 PM

Warthog: Fark.  The school is now a recovery operation, with as many as TWO DOZEN kids still in the school.  RIP little children.


I was at my daughter's class partytoday. Now I'm crying in publix imagining those poor kids.
 
2013-05-20 07:33:50 PM
Holy hell. We've had the Murrah bombing and now this. God damn it!
 
2013-05-20 07:33:57 PM

Warthog: Fark.  The school is now a recovery operation, with as many as TWO DOZEN kids still in the school.  RIP little children.

oh god nonononono :(
 
2013-05-20 07:33:58 PM

aedude01: ranold: 25+ kids dead.... they're about to pull them out.  :-(

If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.

/Praying for the best.


Local NBC affiliate, being reported by the reporter who's been on-site for the last couple hours.  And all the pictures of the first responders on the debris pile sure look like they're making preparations to bring out lots of bodies from a small area.
 
2013-05-20 07:34:17 PM
The tornado is obviously a Democrat.
Then again, isnt everything that destroys buildings, businesses and local economies Democrat

^ idiot friend of a friend on FB,

wanted to say, Hey FF, how about you show us guns don't kill ppl, by loading yours up, getting it completely ready to fire, sticking it in your mouth and pulling the trigger.
 
2013-05-20 07:34:19 PM

cc_rider: mr lawson: cc_rider: They're supposedly pulling more children out of the school, alive.

Hell-to-the-mfarking-YES!
WOOT!

Here's one from an AP source:

[i28.photobucket.com image 512x374]

I hope that makes this thread a little less depressing.


Is that Kim Kardashian's new baby?
 
2013-05-20 07:34:24 PM

skozlaw: aedude01: If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.

I just popped back to check if I heard it right on MSNBC....


Oh... That can't be good.

/No DVR here.
//Still praying for the best.
 
2013-05-20 07:34:48 PM
Almost all of the reporters on KFOR are breaking up...
 
2013-05-20 07:34:49 PM

Warthog: Local NBC affiliate, being reported by the reporter who's been on-site for the last couple hours. And all the pictures of the first responders on the debris pile sure look like they're making preparations to bring out lots of bodies from a small area.


They're reporting that they've moved to a recovery effort. They're not looking for victims, they're pulling out bodies.
 
2013-05-20 07:34:51 PM
Goddamnit.
 
2013-05-20 07:34:55 PM

skozlaw: aedude01: If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.

I just popped back to check if I heard it right on MSNBC....


Lance West, a local reporter, with local sources, reported it. I don't doubt it.
 
2013-05-20 07:35:07 PM
Fark.
 
2013-05-20 07:35:14 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22604251

"The BBC's David Willis says some reports suggest the tornado was two miles wide."

What?!
 
2013-05-20 07:35:34 PM
I am currently sitting with my son in my lap right now. Those poor families.
 
2013-05-20 07:35:36 PM
No longer search and rescue...its now search and recovery... :{
 
2013-05-20 07:35:43 PM

cc_rider: mr lawson: cc_rider: They're supposedly pulling more children out of the school, alive.

Hell-to-the-mfarking-YES!
WOOT!

Here's one from an AP source:

[i28.photobucket.com image 512x374]

I hope that makes this thread a little less depressing.


When was that? They just said on the local news stream that it's no longer a search & rescue at Plaza Towers, but a search & recovery, and they estimate about 2 dozen children to be missing from the school.
 
2013-05-20 07:35:43 PM
Oh no...goddammit so much.
 
2013-05-20 07:35:50 PM

NightOwl2255: Lance West, a local reporter, with local sources, reported it. I don't doubt it.


He's been struggling to contain himself for hours.  He's known for a while that there would be some BAD news from that school.
 
2013-05-20 07:36:04 PM
Scott McClellan @alastormspotter30sPlaza Towers Elementary School is now a recovery mission and not a search rescue effort, according to KFOR. #tornado
 
2013-05-20 07:36:17 PM

aedude01: If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.


Fox has had the best coverage of any network, stop being a fool.
 
2013-05-20 07:36:35 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


They take you to cspan.
 
2013-05-20 07:36:39 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: Almost all of the reporters on KFOR are breaking up...


I'm watching this from hundreds of miles away and I'm sorta breaking up, such a sad day.
 
2013-05-20 07:36:45 PM

PowerSlacker: NightOwl2255: Lance West, a local reporter, with local sources, reported it. I don't doubt it.

He's been struggling to contain himself for hours.  He's known for a while that there would be some BAD news from that school.


You could tell he was losing it when he was reporting it. Damn!
 
2013-05-20 07:36:49 PM

DesktopHippie: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22604251

"The BBC's David Willis says some reports suggest the tornado was two miles wide."

What?!


Debris field was 2.25 miles wide at one point.
 
2013-05-20 07:37:06 PM

DesktopHippie: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22604251

"The BBC's David Willis says some reports suggest the tornado was two miles wide."

What?!


Local KFOR weather guy estimated 2.25 miles wide and damaged 30 square miles.
 
2013-05-20 07:37:08 PM
Fark tornadoes, fark this tornado especially, and just, fark.
 
2013-05-20 07:37:13 PM
Local meteorologist says this particular town has been hit by THREE F4 or F5 tornadoes now.  Wow
 
2013-05-20 07:37:17 PM
Here's the KFOR feed:  http://kfor.com/on-air/live-streaming/   I have to say that their coverage has been exemplary for the last several hours.  Professional, informative, respectful, and careful to qualify what they know vs. what they've heard in rumors.   In other words, the anti-CNN.  One of their reporters appears to have personally helped dig out the bodies of four of the victims, and only went on air after the recovery was done.
 
2013-05-20 07:37:40 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


I left Oklahoma riding a tornadoes back
Just about to lose my mind
I flew over Arizona maybe on to California
Where the quakes and fires intertwine
The air force called me crazy Pecos Pete called me lazy
But the idea to ride this thing wasnt mine
Cuz you know I aint no fool and I didnt steer at the school and
I'd rather just walk this time

Riding on twister time
Its Riding that twister time
Well you knw I didnt chose to
And next time I will refuse to
Ride a twister next time
 
2013-05-20 07:37:48 PM
I need a break.  I'll see you guys in the hockey thread.
 
2013-05-20 07:38:44 PM
And now Joplin's under a tornado warning.
 
GBB
2013-05-20 07:38:59 PM

DesktopHippie: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22604251

"The BBC's David Willis says some reports suggest the tornado was two miles wide."

What?!


That's English miles.  Much different than our American miles.
 
2013-05-20 07:39:01 PM

Anderson's Pooper: I need a break.


Tune in CNN if you need a break from news.
 
2013-05-20 07:39:17 PM
I'm in Tulsa and over the past 2 days in Mid-town it has hardly rained and barely any wind, I only brought my trash cans, and lawn furniture cushions inside a couple hours ago and still no weather here.
 
2013-05-20 07:39:36 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Torgo_of_Manos: Almost all of the reporters on KFOR are breaking up...

I'm watching this from hundreds of miles away and I'm sorta breaking up, such a sad day.


Me too, have lots of friends out there...my thoughts are with them
 
2013-05-20 07:39:44 PM
I know the red cross isn't the "best" sometimes... but i had to do something.

just gave 1/2 my remaining money for the month to the red cross. (whopping $20)...

Crap ... Joplin under the gun again.
 
2013-05-20 07:39:53 PM

megalynn44: cc_rider: mr lawson: cc_rider: They're supposedly pulling more children out of the school, alive.

Hell-to-the-mfarking-YES!
WOOT!

Here's one from an AP source:

[i28.photobucket.com image 512x374]

I hope that makes this thread a little less depressing.

When was that? They just said on the local news stream that it's no longer a search & rescue at Plaza Towers, but a search & recovery, and they estimate about 2 dozen children to be missing from the school.


I don't know, there was no time stamp. Found it on an Atlanta news station's feed, and right after I posted it, the OKC station said that it was now a recovery effort. Bad farking timing. :(
 
2013-05-20 07:39:59 PM
shiat's head toward Joplin.

/What is this, a frickin greatest hits outbreak?
 
2013-05-20 07:40:10 PM

Warthog: Here's the KFOR feed:  http://kfor.com/on-air/live-streaming/   I have to say that their coverage has been exemplary for the last several hours.  Professional, informative, respectful, and careful to qualify what they know vs. what they've heard in rumors.   In other words, the anti-CNN.  One of their reporters appears to have personally helped dig out the bodies of four of the victims, and only went on air after the recovery was done.


There is a local weather legend on the CBS affiliate, Gary England. But, over the last couple of years, Mike Morgan, on KFOR has been the goto guy for weather. All the anchors on KFOR are local people that have been on the air for years.
 
2013-05-20 07:40:48 PM
 
2013-05-20 07:41:09 PM
http://www.monolithic.com/


these guys make concrete domes, and I believe that its much better protection than a traditional stick built house.  I would hope that we can move towards building houses and buildings for folks, instead of what we use now...its too flimsy.
 
2013-05-20 07:41:25 PM

ariseatex: And now Joplin's under a tornado warning.


Oh hell :(
/Tell the tornado to reschedule
 
2013-05-20 07:41:30 PM

ariseatex: And now Joplin's under a tornado warning.


Oh god. One of my classmates lost his first home in the last Joplin tornado, and had just finished rebuilding.
 
2013-05-20 07:41:35 PM

Popcorn Johnny: aedude01: If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.

Fox has had the best coverage of any network, stop being a fool.


LOL. -- Yeah, I'm calling bullshiat on that one.  MSNBC on the other hand...
 
2013-05-20 07:41:55 PM

ranold: You know you're a redneck when your house, car, garage, pool are all blown away, but you hang the confederate flag on your broken tree.
/facepalm


Saw that too. Wanted to slap the guy.
 
2013-05-20 07:42:14 PM

ariseatex: DesktopHippie: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22604251

"The BBC's David Willis says some reports suggest the tornado was two miles wide."

What?!

Debris field was 2.25 miles wide at one point.


Unbelievable.

The video footage is deeply scary. Hoping like hell those cars were abandoned before it hit and everyone on that road found somewhere safer to be.
 
2013-05-20 07:42:26 PM
I just heard a report on the news of someone that said he rode out the storm on a saw horse.
 
2013-05-20 07:42:28 PM

zomega: ariseatex: And now Joplin's under a tornado warning.

Oh god. One of my classmates lost his first home in the last Joplin tornado, and had just finished rebuilding.


It's looking like the tornado itself may pass to the south of Joplin proper, if it stays on its current course.
 
2013-05-20 07:42:29 PM
God's an asshole. If not, Mother Nature's a biatch.
 
2013-05-20 07:42:32 PM

Random Name Generator: [i.imgur.com image 474x320]


As I was SAYING in the other thread, MODERATOR, that one is headed towards Granbury, which was devastated during last week's storms. There's also a tornado warning for Montague County, which also had a tornado touch down last week (EF2). Are we working on some tornado ruts out here or what?
 
2013-05-20 07:43:05 PM

zomega: ariseatex: And now Joplin's under a tornado warning.

Oh god. One of my classmates lost his first home in the last Joplin tornado, and had just finished rebuilding.


Anderson Hills here got wiped out twice. A street or two over got wiped out three times in two years.
 
2013-05-20 07:43:27 PM
Switched over to KFOR. Guy's standing right outside Plaza, but he's not referring to a recovery operation. Yet.
 
2013-05-20 07:43:32 PM

ariseatex: zomega: ariseatex: And now Joplin's under a tornado warning.

Oh god. One of my classmates lost his first home in the last Joplin tornado, and had just finished rebuilding.

It's looking like the tornado itself may pass to the south of Joplin proper, if it stays on its current course.


So the same path as Picher, OK 2008 F4?

/greatest hits
 
2013-05-20 07:43:35 PM
Some guy on CNN is thanking the Lord for saving them from the tornado. The one He sent. And flattened an elementary school with.

Christ.
 
2013-05-20 07:44:08 PM

djkutch: God's an asshole. If not, Mother Nature's a biatch.


why not both?
 
2013-05-20 07:44:12 PM

aedude01: Popcorn Johnny: aedude01: If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.

Fox has had the best coverage of any network, stop being a fool.

LOL. -- Yeah, I'm calling bullshiat on that one.  MSNBC on the other hand...


Actually, as a pretty dedicated MSNBC arugula eater, Fox does alright when there's genuine breaking news going on.  I don't know that I'd call them 'best,' but they do bring in a couple less-than-braindead anchors.
 
2013-05-20 07:44:15 PM
I was wondering what happened to the dog...
 
2013-05-20 07:44:41 PM
People who risk their lives for animals are a special group. That's the second one today they've interviewed.
 
2013-05-20 07:44:54 PM
If I were a religious man, I would say he is punishing you for something.

Anti gay marriage, check
Blindly republican, check

Of course this is somehow obama's fault.
 
2013-05-20 07:45:04 PM
All of these cells seem to have reorganized after passing Tulsa, and into an environment with more energy... 

What is it about Tulsa that tornadoes avoid?
 
2013-05-20 07:45:08 PM
Listening to the scanner feed for Cleveland county mostly Norman ems something about sooner road was shut down and people having to go over to Choctaw road to get to interstate, that is eight miles! Just heard that it is cleared enough to let emergency vehicles get through.

/looked up on screen and about shiat a brick when Mike Morgan was showing today's track overlapping May 3rd 99's track
 
2013-05-20 07:45:08 PM

elffster: http://www.monolithic.com/


these guys make concrete domes, and I believe that its much better protection than a traditional stick built house.  I would hope that we can move towards building houses and buildings for folks, instead of what we use now...its too flimsy.


And heres a concrete dome over a school being built then collapsing
 
2013-05-20 07:45:18 PM
How the fark do they always find the biggest rednecks to interview! Damn, I swear we are not all rednecks round these here parts.
 
2013-05-20 07:45:20 PM
Oh man, Tom Cole the Congressional representative for the area said his home was a mile from the school and he grew up in the area and he sounds like he's trying real hard to hold it together.
 
2013-05-20 07:45:57 PM
I'm listening to this farktard on CNN talk about how Jesus saved him and his wife from the tornado, and how the Lord took care of him. I wanted the reporter to ask him "So, those 24 children killed in that elementary school just weren't right with the Lord, eh?"
 
2013-05-20 07:46:16 PM
"Potentially dozens of casualties" is as close as this guy got...
oh, crap, and they just said "recovery" there.
 
2013-05-20 07:46:31 PM
More horses gonna be put down.  :(
 
2013-05-20 07:46:38 PM

NightOwl2255: How the fark do they always find the biggest rednecks to interview! Damn, I swear we are not all rednecks round these here parts.


everybody want's their 15 min of fame.
 
2013-05-20 07:46:55 PM

Di Atribe: Random Name Generator: [i.imgur.com image 474x320]

As I was SAYING in the other thread, MODERATOR, that one is headed towards Granbury, which was devastated during last week's storms. There's also a tornado warning for Montague County, which also had a tornado touch down last week (EF2). Are we working on some tornado ruts out here or what?


So its your fault?
 
2013-05-20 07:46:57 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Some guy on CNN is thanking the Lord for saving them from the tornado. The one He sent. And flattened an elementary school with.

Christ.


I flamed Danica Patrick on her twitter when she was talking about praying for the safety of the people in Moore.

"the disaster already happened. stop praying and open your purse and call the red cross. praying didn't work, time for actual action"
 
2013-05-20 07:47:36 PM

NightOwl2255: How the fark do they always find the biggest rednecks to interview! Damn, I swear we are not all rednecks round these here parts.


She did save her dog.  And the cops can ticket her, she doesn't care.  But she may have a little concussion in her head.

/have to admit I laughed a bit, for the first time in a couple hours.
 
2013-05-20 07:47:53 PM

star_topology: People who risk their lives for animals are a special group. That's the second one today they've interviewed.


I feel awful for all the lame horses standing about, they'll all be put down no doubt. I know human loss is infinitely more tragic but animals are just as innocent as children. Poor biatches.
 
2013-05-20 07:47:55 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can


DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???
 
2013-05-20 07:48:03 PM

FatherDale: I'm listening to this farktard on CNN talk about how Jesus saved him and his wife from the tornado, and how the Lord took care of him. I wanted the reporter to ask him "So, those 24 children killed in that elementary school just weren't right with the Lord, eh?"


24 kids? :-(
 
2013-05-20 07:48:11 PM
Weather Channel now reporting the student fatalities at Plaza Towers.  Think they purposely avoided reporting it for a while there just to be "safe", I guess.
 
2013-05-20 07:48:24 PM
I am watching the live feed on ABC and it like, Wow!  One of the schools that was hit, moved children into neighborhood away from the school.  They only had 4 children to match with parents.  The news folks were trying to get the word out about the kids.  Three were from one family. Hope they get with them soon.
 
2013-05-20 07:49:00 PM

Warthog: NightOwl2255: How the fark do they always find the biggest rednecks to interview! Damn, I swear we are not all rednecks round these here parts.

She did save her dog.  And the cops can ticket her, she doesn't care.  But she may have a little concussion in her head.

/have to admit I laughed a bit, for the first time in a couple hours.


She's just liv'n the dream.

/ow lord
 
2013-05-20 07:49:06 PM

Warthog: NightOwl2255: How the fark do they always find the biggest rednecks to interview! Damn, I swear we are not all rednecks round these here parts.

She did save her dog.  And the cops can ticket her, she doesn't care.  But she may have a little concussion in her head.

/have to admit I laughed a bit, for the first time in a couple hours.


I thought she was talking about her child, when she said dog I wanted to slap the biatch.
 
2013-05-20 07:49:16 PM
As a tornado, I am getting a kick out of these responses.
 
2013-05-20 07:49:22 PM
Is it to early to talk about tornado control?
 
2013-05-20 07:49:57 PM

WhyteRaven74: Oh man, Tom Cole the Congressional representative for the area said his home was a mile from the school and he grew up in the area and he sounds like he's trying real hard to hold it together.


So are the news anchors on KFOR.
 
2013-05-20 07:50:19 PM
Look at the size of that tornado!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c4_1369088124
 
2013-05-20 07:50:21 PM

Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???


christ I hope the mods are watching these threads close
 
2013-05-20 07:50:29 PM

Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???


Thanks O'Reilly...
Just donate some cash to whomever you prefer.
 
2013-05-20 07:50:38 PM
shiat.  In other bad news today, RIP Ray Manzarek.
 
2013-05-20 07:50:45 PM

NightOwl2255: How the fark do they always find the biggest rednecks to interview! Damn, I swear we are not all rednecks round these here parts.


It's how the news operates. They interview dozens of people; but, only the most interesting people make the news.

/ personally, I wouldn't ever give any news group any sort of sound bite.
 
2013-05-20 07:50:46 PM
I think I just heard the chopper pilot for KFOR say something about a red dress....

:(
 
2013-05-20 07:50:56 PM
Aaaannd the local hospital has just thrown HIPAA out the window, to announce the name of a 9 year old child in their care and ask the parents to call them.

/I'm OK with this.
 
2013-05-20 07:50:58 PM
I haven't seen anything about a recovery versus rescue effort...?
 
2013-05-20 07:51:06 PM

mikaloyd: Di Atribe: Random Name Generator: [i.imgur.com image 474x320]

As I was SAYING in the other thread, MODERATOR, that one is headed towards Granbury, which was devastated during last week's storms. There's also a tornado warning for Montague County, which also had a tornado touch down last week (EF2). Are we working on some tornado ruts out here or what?

So its your fault?


Hm, it may be. I think I've had my lifetime limit of tornadic experiences so I've developed a weather bubble that deflects all the worst stuff.

In other news, not sure if I should stick with national coverage to keep up with Moore or stay local in case we get a warning. Hm..... I know the answer sounds obvious, but....
 
2013-05-20 07:51:11 PM

The Downfall: Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???

christ I hope the mods are watching these threads close


Yeah, no shiat
 
2013-05-20 07:51:28 PM
Any rightwing talk show host idiot make some lame comment about how Obama is going to make tornadoes illegal yet?
 
2013-05-20 07:51:39 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???

Thanks O'Reilly...
Just donate some cash to whomever you prefer.


The NightOwl fund for early retirement is up and taking donations!
 
2013-05-20 07:51:59 PM

star_topology: People who risk their lives for animals are a special group. That's the second one today they've interviewed.


Should they really be searching for animals right now where there are a lot of people still unaccounted for and not enough rescue personnel to get to them all? Everybody in the area should be looking for people, not a farking cat or dog.
 
2013-05-20 07:52:01 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-05-20 07:52:13 PM
 
2013-05-20 07:52:23 PM

cc_rider: So are the news anchors on KFOR.


Yep them too, but to hear him talk about his mom voting at the school when he was a kid and the sound of his voice, just damn.
 
2013-05-20 07:52:46 PM

Shadow Blasko: ecmoRandomNumbers: Some guy on CNN is thanking the Lord for saving them from the tornado. The one He sent. And flattened an elementary school with.

Christ.

I flamed Danica Patrick on her twitter when she was talking about praying for the safety of the people in Moore.

"the disaster already happened. stop praying and open your purse and call the red cross. praying didn't work, time for actual action"


Her fans are going to flip out on you.
 
2013-05-20 07:52:55 PM

Warthog: Aaaannd the local hospital has just thrown HIPAA out the window, to announce the name of a 9 year old child in their care and ask the parents to call them.

/I'm OK with this.


That has nothing to do with HIPPA.
 
2013-05-20 07:53:05 PM
Damn....debris from Moore landed in Tulsa.
 
2013-05-20 07:53:17 PM

Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???


Tell us what your are doing
 
2013-05-20 07:53:18 PM
I picked this up earlier and the national news channels were feeding KFOR (I'm in Nevada).  They've switched to their own reporters.

I prefer the KFOR guy.
 
2013-05-20 07:53:27 PM

Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???


Your money would be better spent by renting an airplane and dropping dollar bills in the general area.
 
2013-05-20 07:53:28 PM
 
2013-05-20 07:53:52 PM
Keep it up mods.
 
2013-05-20 07:53:52 PM

Shadow Blasko: ecmoRandomNumbers: Some guy on CNN is thanking the Lord for saving them from the tornado. The one He sent. And flattened an elementary school with.

Christ.

I flamed Danica Patrick on her twitter when she was talking about praying for the safety of the people in Moore.

"the disaster already happened. stop praying and open your purse and call the red cross. praying didn't work, time for actual action"


Good for you, yes I can send all the best wish's I want but it does nothing.
 
2013-05-20 07:53:59 PM
Can't get in touch with family in Moore and preliminary track shows it going about 1 mile south of cousin's house.  Not good.
 
2013-05-20 07:54:02 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Shadow Blasko: ecmoRandomNumbers: Some guy on CNN is thanking the Lord for saving them from the tornado. The one He sent. And flattened an elementary school with.

Christ.

I flamed Danica Patrick on her twitter when she was talking about praying for the safety of the people in Moore.

"the disaster already happened. stop praying and open your purse and call the red cross. praying didn't work, time for actual action"

Her fans are going to flip out on you.


Then, afterwards, someone will call her prayer overrated and her money chest too small.
 
2013-05-20 07:54:04 PM

Stretch_8: I think I just heard the chopper pilot for KFOR say something about a red dress....

:(


Yeah, I noticed they rather abruptly zoomed out. As someone who's worked in the media in the past, they probably saw something they didn't want to show on air.
 
2013-05-20 07:54:11 PM
Shepherd Smith just reported unconfirmed that 24 kids trapped at the school died.
 
2013-05-20 07:54:12 PM

Popcorn Johnny: aedude01: If your source is CNN or FOX I wouldn't put your sad face on yet.

Fox has had the best coverage of any network, stop being a fool.


Stevie Wonder is a musical genius!
 
2013-05-20 07:54:46 PM
Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.
 
2013-05-20 07:54:49 PM
7 kids dead from drowning, up to 30 still in the school.
 
2013-05-20 07:54:57 PM
Jesus, 7 of the kids drowned in the school.
 
2013-05-20 07:54:57 PM
New storm developing
 
2013-05-20 07:54:58 PM

derpy: Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???

Your money would be better spent by renting an airplane and dropping dollar bills in the general area.


What an appropriate user name
 
2013-05-20 07:55:17 PM
Fun Fact: Moore, OK is the place where Dana Plato OD'ed in an RV.
 
2013-05-20 07:55:22 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Shadow Blasko: ecmoRandomNumbers: Some guy on CNN is thanking the Lord for saving them from the tornado. The one He sent. And flattened an elementary school with.

Christ.

I flamed Danica Patrick on her twitter when she was talking about praying for the safety of the people in Moore.

"the disaster already happened. stop praying and open your purse and call the red cross. praying didn't work, time for actual action"

Her fans are going to flip out on you.


Well... probably.

im not wrong though .
 
2013-05-20 07:55:25 PM
Damn.....seven kids drowned in a pool of water at the base of debris at the elementary school.   They are estimating 20 to 30 more, according to KFOR reporter.
 
2013-05-20 07:55:26 PM

mikaloyd: elffster: http://www.monolithic.com/


these guys make concrete domes, and I believe that its much better protection than a traditional stick built house.  I would hope that we can move towards building houses and buildings for folks, instead of what we use now...its too flimsy.

And heres a concrete dome over a school being built then collapsing


carbon fiber
 
2013-05-20 07:55:36 PM

Di Atribe: mikaloyd: Di Atribe: Random Name Generator: [i.imgur.com image 474x320]

As I was SAYING in the other thread, MODERATOR, that one is headed towards Granbury, which was devastated during last week's storms. There's also a tornado warning for Montague County, which also had a tornado touch down last week (EF2). Are we working on some tornado ruts out here or what?

So its your fault?

Hm, it may be. I think I've had my lifetime limit of tornadic experiences so I've developed a weather bubble that deflects all the worst stuff.

In other news, not sure if I should stick with national coverage to keep up with Moore or stay local in case we get a warning. Hm..... I know the answer sounds obvious, but....


Get your ass somewhere safe and stay there young lady. I dont trust these damned tornadoes and dont want you playing fast and loose cuz you think you are tornado proof.
 
2013-05-20 07:55:42 PM
Somewhere, Al Roker is naked and covered in cheesecake.
 
2013-05-20 07:55:54 PM

Obscene_CNN: Look at the size of that tornado!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c4_1369088124


The amazing thing to me is those helicopters are flying maybe 10 miles away under the storm shelf.

I won't fly within 20nm of a thunderstorm!
 
2013-05-20 07:56:16 PM

ariseatex: Weather Channel now reporting the student fatalities at Plaza Towers.  Think they purposely avoided reporting it for a while there just to be "safe", I guess.


That sounds like they're expecting the search to go overnight they're asking for lights to be brought in.
 
2013-05-20 07:56:24 PM

Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.


How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.
 
2013-05-20 07:56:27 PM
KFOR says the FD is pulling everyone out and it's now body recovery. Still missing 20-30, 7 confirmed drowned under the rubble.
 
2013-05-20 07:56:36 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: derpy: Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???

Your money would be better spent by renting an airplane and dropping dollar bills in the general area.

What an appropriate user name


seriously? donate to something like Robin Hood that doesn't spend $100,000s on executive salaries and luxury hotel suites.
 
2013-05-20 07:56:53 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Any rightwing talk show host idiot make some lame comment about how Obama is going to make tornadoes illegal yet?


No but many liters have made some dumbass jokes
 
2013-05-20 07:57:14 PM

aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.


Trapped under rubble in a low spot.
 
2013-05-20 07:57:28 PM

Warthog: Aaaannd the local hospital has just thrown HIPAA out the window, to announce the name of a 9 year old child in their care and ask the parents to call them.

/I'm OK with this.


The best laid schemes of mice and men / Often go awry.
 
2013-05-20 07:58:14 PM

netringer: Obscene_CNN: Look at the size of that tornado!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c4_1369088124

The amazing thing to me is those helicopters are flying maybe 10 miles away under the storm shelf.

I won't fly within 20nm of a thunderstorm!


20 nanometers is pretty damn close.
 
2013-05-20 07:58:15 PM

Glendale: aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.

Trapped under rubble in a low spot.


Add in heavy rain with a lot of runoff and probably broken water lines pouring in.  Very tragic :(
 
2013-05-20 07:58:18 PM

aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.


Speculation: Trapped under debris or in a basement/low room, water main breaks.
 
2013-05-20 07:58:27 PM

aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.


You get pinned under debris in a concrete hallway when the roof and walls collapse, and rain water (or I suppose broken water mains) fill the hallway.
 
2013-05-20 07:58:38 PM

Glendale: aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.

Trapped under rubble in a low spot.


Absolutely horrible.  Probably lived through the tornado ...
 
2013-05-20 07:58:49 PM

aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.


Busted water main, creates a pool at the bottom?

Is it wrong that I kinda hope they were knocked unconscious by debris first? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
 
2013-05-20 07:58:50 PM

FatherDale: I'm listening to this farktard on CNN talk about how Jesus saved him and his wife from the tornado, and how the Lord took care of him. I wanted the reporter to ask him "So, those 24 children killed in that elementary school just weren't right with the Lord, eh?"


This. And if his god saved him then his god caused this. No supernatural being causes tornadoes, hurricanes, snowstorms, earthquakes or any other natural disaster and no supernatural being will save you from them either. It's just dumb luck, not divine intervention.

/Tulsan
// hopes for the best for everyone in Moore, Jebus farktards included
 
2013-05-20 07:58:51 PM

Warthog: Aaaannd the local hospital has just thrown HIPAA out the window, to announce the name of a 9 year old child in their care and ask the parents to call them.

/I'm OK with this.


No battle plan survives contact with the enemy
 
2013-05-20 07:59:03 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: derpy: Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???

Your money would be better spent by renting an airplane and dropping dollar bills in the general area.

What an appropriate user name


It's actually true. Here in Alabama they where useless for the Tuscaloosa Tornado outbreak.
All money to the red-cross goes into their 'general fund' very little of that actually reaches people in need.
Better to go on a website and donate to the local chapter of the Salvation Army in OKC---they target the area; and a very streamlined overhead cost.
 
2013-05-20 07:59:11 PM

WhyteRaven74: cc_rider: So are the news anchors on KFOR.

Yep them too, but to hear him talk about his mom voting at the school when he was a kid and the sound of his voice, just damn.



Once in a while our elected officials remind us that they are, in fact, human.
 
2013-05-20 07:59:22 PM

ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?


Wonderland
 
2013-05-20 07:59:36 PM

aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.


Trapped in a low spot that filled with water? Or indoor pool and roof caved?
 
2013-05-20 07:59:47 PM

netringer: I won't fly within 20nm of a thunderstorm!


I agree if you want to avoid the worst of the winds you're going to need more than twenty nanometers.
 
2013-05-20 08:00:02 PM

Glendale: KFOR says the FD is pulling everyone out and it's now body recovery. Still missing 20-30, 7 confirmed drowned under the rubble.


Ugh... that's just so depressing I'm struggling to find words...
 
2013-05-20 08:00:05 PM
The BBC, who are generally very cautious when it comes to reporting fatalities, are now saying "at least 10 people" have been killed.

They don't mention any deaths at the school though, just that kids are being pulled out alive. They likely won't report any fatalities there until there's some sort of confirmation from officials in the area.
 
2013-05-20 08:00:13 PM

Warthog: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7759176/84327216#c84327216" target="_blank"></i>

She did save her dog.  And the cops can ticket her, she doesn't care.  But she may have a little concussion in her head.

/have to admit I laughed a bit, for the first time in a couple hours.


same. I love my dog, but no way I'm driving back into a tornado to save him
 
2013-05-20 08:01:02 PM

derpy: Torgo_of_Manos: derpy: Anthracite: Torgo_of_Manos: Donate to the Redcross if you can

DO NOT DONATE TO THE RED CROSS....

Havent you heard enough of the crap they DONT DO???

Your money would be better spent by renting an airplane and dropping dollar bills in the general area.

What an appropriate user name

seriously? donate to something like Robin Hood that doesn't spend $100,000s on executive salaries and luxury hotel suites.


The time when Robin Hood can get boots on the ground tonight, I will consider it...The fact of the matter is:  the red cross has trucks, with water food and shelter headed for those in need right now.

There is a reason why they pay their exec's big bucks, they are professionals and that's what is need right now.
 
2013-05-20 08:01:10 PM

DesktopHippie: The BBC, who are generally very cautious when it comes to reporting fatalities, are now saying "at least 10 people" have been killed.

They don't mention any deaths at the school though, just that kids are being pulled out alive. They likely won't report any fatalities there until there's some sort of confirmation from officials in the area.


10 is the number confirmed by Oklahoma authorities from what I heard on TWC.  This doesn't include anyone at the school.
 
2013-05-20 08:01:35 PM

Minarets: Jesus, 7 of the kids drowned in the school.


HOW THE fark DOES THAT EVEN HAPPEN?????
 
2013-05-20 08:02:00 PM
Be thankful that tor wasnt near the nuclear plant otherwise this would be like Fukushima
 
2013-05-20 08:02:12 PM
Not to be morbid, but with all the focus on the school we haven't seen or heard about the rest of the devastated area much, and that's supposed to be 30 square miles.
 
2013-05-20 08:02:20 PM
 
2013-05-20 08:02:32 PM

Theory Of Null: Warthog: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7759176/84327216#c84327216" target="_blank"></i>

She did save her dog.  And the cops can ticket her, she doesn't care.  But she may have a little concussion in her head.

/have to admit I laughed a bit, for the first time in a couple hours.

same. I love my dog, but no way I'm driving back into a tornado to save him


I probably wouldn't now, but there was a time my dog was all I had for a companion, and I probably would have.
 
2013-05-20 08:03:03 PM

Peki: aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.

Busted water main, creates a pool at the bottom?

Is it wrong that I kinda hope they were knocked unconscious by debris first? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.


That was my first thought, actually. I hope that if the drowning is accurate, that they never regained consciousness after the tornado hit, because being trapped and drowning would be horrible.
 
2013-05-20 08:03:22 PM

ariseatex: DesktopHippie: The BBC, who are generally very cautious when it comes to reporting fatalities, are now saying "at least 10 people" have been killed.

They don't mention any deaths at the school though, just that kids are being pulled out alive. They likely won't report any fatalities there until there's some sort of confirmation from officials in the area.

10 is the number confirmed by Oklahoma authorities from what I heard on TWC.  This doesn't include anyone at the school.


That's the BBC all over. They won't report it first, but they will report it right.
 
2013-05-20 08:03:40 PM

DesktopHippie: The BBC, who are generally very cautious when it comes to reporting fatalities, are now saying "at least 10 people" have been killed.

They don't mention any deaths at the school though, just that kids are being pulled out alive. They likely won't report any fatalities there until there's some sort of confirmation from officials in the area.


The KFOR reporter that reported 7 drowned and 20-30 to be recovered was on the scene (pretty sure). Now there's a chance some of those on the missing count could be alive, but they're taking about needing jackhammers and heavy equipment to remove concrete to even find out.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:01 PM
Someone needs to buy the KFOR anchors a round. They deserve it.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:07 PM
Moore Medical is "completely destroyed" (random dispatcher)
 
2013-05-20 08:04:13 PM
MSNBC reported 30 minutes ago that 24 kids were dead.
Now they are not reporting that and I have not seen any other
news source report that.
I want them to be wrong.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:14 PM

optikeye: Better to go on a website and donate to the local chapter of the Salvation Army in OKC


I don't have a problem with that.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:20 PM

MFAWG: Minarets: Jesus, 7 of the kids drowned in the school.

HOW THE fark DOES THAT EVEN HAPPEN?????


Initial guess is they were pinned down in a low place and water from the storm funneled into it. Wouldn't take much if you can't lift your head.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:43 PM

WhyteRaven74: Not to be morbid, but with all the focus on the school we haven't seen or heard about the rest of the devastated area much, and that's supposed to be 30 square miles.


Completely agree. Likely hundreds died, no? That's a huge swath of land.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:43 PM

JolobinSmokin: The tornado is obviously a Democrat.
Then again, isnt everything that destroys buildings, businesses and local economies Democrat

^ idiot friend of a friend on FB,


I'm not gonna go the route I would go on FB, since here there was honestly and truly nothing most of these people could do to avoid this tornado.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:50 PM

Warthog: ou get pinned under debris in a concrete hallway when the roof and walls collapse, and rain water (or I suppose broken water mains) fill the hallway.


That's farking brutal, and this happened to already-terrified children.  Anyone who thanks God for saving them needs to be waterboarded.
 
2013-05-20 08:04:58 PM
Live TV:  http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/51943719/

I believe it's local OK news.
 
2013-05-20 08:05:00 PM

Popcorn Johnny: star_topology: People who risk their lives for animals are a special group. That's the second one today they've interviewed.

Should they really be searching for animals right now where there are a lot of people still unaccounted for and not enough rescue personnel to get to them all? Everybody in the area should be looking for people, not a farking cat or dog.


I won't pass judgment on someone who may or may not have someone else important in her life than her dog. I know a lot of people like that.

Plus, they are probably not allowing people aside from first responders in at this point.
 
2013-05-20 08:05:06 PM

brothajahn: MSNBC reported 30 minutes ago that 24 kids were dead.
Now they are not reporting that and I have not seen any other
news source report that.
I want them to be wrong.


Read up-thread.  They're not alone.
 
2013-05-20 08:05:08 PM

ontariolightning: Be thankful that tor wasnt near the nuclear plant otherwise this would be like Fukushima


Because tornadoes create tidal waves?

Containment vessels do not work like that.
 
2013-05-20 08:05:10 PM

Tom_Slick: I probably wouldn't now, but there was a time my dog was all I had for a companion, and I probably would have.


This.
 
2013-05-20 08:05:18 PM

2xhelix: Moore


I hope they're okay.. maybe they're already listed on the Red Cross website. Linked below.

http://safeandwell.communityos.org/cms/index.php
 
2013-05-20 08:05:37 PM

Torgo_of_Manos: There is a reason why they pay their exec's big bucks, they are professionals and that's what is need right now.


Just put his idiot ass on ignore, don't help him in his desire to disrupt things.
 
2013-05-20 08:06:22 PM

ontariolightning: Be thankful that tor wasnt near the nuclear plant otherwise this would be like Fukushima


1/10

You'll get it eventually tho.
 
2013-05-20 08:07:29 PM

sloshyj: WhyteRaven74: Not to be morbid, but with all the focus on the school we haven't seen or heard about the rest of the devastated area much, and that's supposed to be 30 square miles.

Completely agree. Likely hundreds died, no? That's a huge swath of land.


To think positively,

A) During the day so many people may have been at work
B) They had a lot of warning, KFOR is reporting that a lot of people who didn't have basements got out of the way before it hit

The death toll may not be as large as you would expect from the damage
 
2013-05-20 08:07:34 PM
To give you non-Oklahoma/Kansas some reference, people's proof of insurance from inside their cars were found over 120 miles away from yesterday's far less powerful tornado that hit Shawnee. Trees were falling out of the sky 10+ miles away, according to local sources.
 
2013-05-20 08:07:41 PM

skozlaw: Torgo_of_Manos: There is a reason why they pay their exec's big bucks, they are professionals and that's what is need right now.

Just put his idiot ass on ignore, don't help him in his desire to disrupt things.


Good advice
 
2013-05-20 08:07:56 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Someone needs to buy the KFOR anchors a round. They deserve it.


They've been solid.
 
2013-05-20 08:08:06 PM

Cytokine Storm: ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?

Arkansas
/sometimes Missouri


i.imgur.com 

You're terrible.

/I shouldn't have laughed
 
2013-05-20 08:08:19 PM

Minarets: The death toll may not be as large as you would expect from the damage


Thank Science for modern technology....

Thirty years ago much of this would have been impossible.
 
2013-05-20 08:08:31 PM
optikeye:
It's actually true. Here in Alabama they where useless for the Tuscaloosa Tornado outbreak.
All money to the red-cross goes into their 'general fund' very little of that actually reaches people in need.
Better to go on a website and donate to the local chapter of the Salvation Army in OKC---they target the area; and a very streamlined overhead cost.


While I'm not sure about this specific case, worrying about executive salaries or 'general funds' is not always a good idea with charities. If you want a huge, multinational charitable organization to survive and function, you need career work from educated professionals. It's not at all unreasonable that some of them, particularly highly educated or very experienced ones, might have six figure salaries. As far as 'general funds' go, the Red Cross does that because well known disasters tend to get carpet-bombed with way more aid than they can use while lesser ones are completely ignored; a general fund helps spread some of that out.
 
2013-05-20 08:08:48 PM

WhyteRaven74: Not to be morbid, but with all the focus on the school we haven't seen or heard about the rest of the devastated area much, and that's supposed to be 30 square miles.


In modern media, you have stories that go to the top of the heap:

1) Kids
2) Attractive white women
3) A politician caught with either of the above, but especially #1
 
2013-05-20 08:08:57 PM
If you need shelter tonight, call the University of Oklahoma @UofOklahoma housing at 405-325-2511
 
2013-05-20 08:10:40 PM

ontariolightning: Be thankful that tor wasnt near the nuclear plant otherwise this would be like Fukushima




i17.photobucket.com

TBS did it.
 
2013-05-20 08:10:55 PM
fark, I've seen tornadoes but this school business is like a sick, sick Stephen King narrative.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, but there's a lot wrong with the story tonight. fark.
 
2013-05-20 08:11:50 PM

The Downfall: ontariolightning: Be thankful that tor wasnt near the nuclear plant otherwise this would be like Fukushima

[i17.photobucket.com image 249x388]

TBS did it.


If the storm sucked as bad as that movie, I'm surprised there's anything more then bedrock left.
 
2013-05-20 08:11:58 PM
dumbimages.net
 
2013-05-20 08:12:50 PM

Bontesla: I hope they're okay.. maybe they're already listed on the Red Cross website. Linked below


No luck.  Tried it earlier and just again right now.
 
2013-05-20 08:12:56 PM

Bontesla: If you need shelter tonight, call the University of Oklahoma @UofOklahoma housing at 405-325-2511


OU BSU (in Shawnee) is also providing shelter (405-275-2850 and 405-878-2402) and Journey Church in Norman (I-35 and Tecumseh) is opening up housing and offering meals (405-217-8700).
 
2013-05-20 08:12:58 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Someone needs to buy the KFOR anchors a round. They deserve it.


No kidding.  They have been extremely informative and professional, and they haven't made a single misstep that I've seen.  The people on CNN, Fox, and other other news networks could stand to learn a whole hell of a lot from those folks.
 
2013-05-20 08:13:00 PM

Compact Travel Size: Peki: aedude01: Warthog: Fark.  7 drowned children at the school.  More that they are having to jack-hammer out.

How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.

Busted water main, creates a pool at the bottom?

Is it wrong that I kinda hope they were knocked unconscious by debris first? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

That was my first thought, actually. I hope that if the drowning is accurate, that they never regained consciousness after the tornado hit, because being trapped and drowning would be horrible.


The "worst industrial accidents" thread mentioned the Aberfan disaster in Wales, which got me remembering stuff I read about it years ago.

Man. I did not expect to hear news stories of kids drowning in their school just a few days later.
 
2013-05-20 08:13:17 PM

JolobinSmokin: I'm in Tulsa and over the past 2 days in Mid-town it has hardly rained and barely any wind, I only brought my trash cans, and lawn furniture cushions inside a couple hours ago and still no weather here.


Just like Stillwater the last couple of days.   Everything,  the bad shiat and the rain, just went south and west.

Old joke.  There's a lot of people in Oklahoma City and quite a few people in Norman.  But there's Moore people in between.

/a few less tonight.
//Damned sad people didn't take extraordinary measures, like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!

Norman NWS had a big, bloody map predicting where this stuff would happen published before 11am this morning.

/sobs
 
2013-05-20 08:14:17 PM
RatOmeter:


Sorry, South and *East*
 
2013-05-20 08:14:27 PM
How about you have some empathy for those affected instead of using this tragedy as a soapbox for your atheism.

What is wrong with you people? The victims have enough to deal with, they don't need you trying to rip away the only sense of comfort they have right now.
 
2013-05-20 08:14:41 PM
Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?
 
2013-05-20 08:16:00 PM

2xhelix: Bontesla: I hope they're okay.. maybe they're already listed on the Red Cross website. Linked below

No luck.  Tried it earlier and just again right now.


I'm sorry :/
I hope your family is safe.
 
2013-05-20 08:16:21 PM

sloshyj: Completely agree. Likely hundreds died, no? That's a huge swath of land.


Given that it's a densely populated and developed area, and while not the entire track of the tornado was over that populated area, several miles were and that's, not good.
 
2013-05-20 08:16:27 PM
Geeze their interviewing one guy that's home was destroyed and he's talking about how all his guns where in a gun safe and he only lost one gun. Seriously, WTF dude.
 
2013-05-20 08:16:53 PM
Things just got interesting here in NW Arkansas. Tornado warning and severe thunderstorms. It went from still and quiet to torrential in a matter of seconds.
 
2013-05-20 08:17:07 PM

mikaloyd: Get your ass somewhere safe and stay there young lady. I dont trust these damned tornadoes and dont want you playing fast and loose cuz you think you are tornado proof.


Damn that is a great start to country song, I can't even begin to tell you.
 
2013-05-20 08:17:11 PM

optikeye: Geeze their interviewing one guy that's home was destroyed and he's talking about how all his guns where in a gun safe and he only lost one gun. Seriously, WTF dude.


ricromero.jpg

People have different interests and different things and pets and the like are more important to them than other things.

/Film at 11
 
2013-05-20 08:17:19 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards? Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


It really depends on the tornado and the location of the debris. Yes and no. What you can often expect are the spinning winds that keep debris aloft. Does some debris get sucked upwards? Definitely. Is it like a vacuum? Eh....
 
2013-05-20 08:17:35 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


Both really... Winds are horizontal, but there are updrafts and variations in wind speed that create little spinning eddies that throw things everywhere.

Also the difference in wind speed from ground level to just above ground level (faster) creates lift.

But.. mostly just horizontal when you get down to the "what would I feel standing near it"
 
2013-05-20 08:17:43 PM

Ravage: Is it to early to talk about tornado control?


www.charlock.org
 
2013-05-20 08:17:47 PM
Tornadoes are planetary storms.  Defend your self using the planet.  Build underground homes and businesses.

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com  assets.dornob.com
Bless the poor OK folks.
 
2013-05-20 08:17:50 PM
How big are schools in OKC?
My HS had over 4k students.
 
2013-05-20 08:17:55 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


I think it's just mostly horizontal wind.  There is an intense low pressure in the middle (which drives the winds) but there isn't so much suction for heavier things, the strong wind can just get under some things and toss it upward.
 
2013-05-20 08:17:58 PM

optikeye: Geeze their interviewing one guy that's home was destroyed and he's talking about how all his guns where in a gun safe and he only lost one gun. Seriously, WTF dude.


They asked if he had "anything left", right now, that's all he's sure of, because the safe is still there, he's going to have to dig to see if there's anything else (probably very little)
 
2013-05-20 08:18:02 PM
This is what happens when you legalize gay marriage.

/I am joking
 
2013-05-20 08:18:02 PM

optikeye: Geeze their interviewing one guy that's home was destroyed and he's talking about how all his guns where in a gun safe and he only lost one gun. Seriously, WTF dude.


You expect him not to talk sympathetically about the one thing in this world that means more to him than his kids?

/I farking hate gun people...
 
2013-05-20 08:18:10 PM
The thing that makes me so sad right now is that if we know, in Huntsville, that there is a strong likelihood of tornadoes, they cancel school well before the storms get here. Not that it probably would have mattered in this case, I understand that...
 
2013-05-20 08:18:17 PM
37 dead
 
2013-05-20 08:18:19 PM
If 30 sq mi is the accurate estimate, that is more than 6 times the area leveled at Hiroshima.
 
2013-05-20 08:18:47 PM

ancker: How about you have some empathy for those affected instead of using this tragedy as a soapbox for your atheism.

What is wrong with you people? The victims have enough to deal with, they don't need you trying to rip away the only sense of comfort they have right now.


It's hard for us non believers to understand why a victim of this type of horrific event would still have faith in an all powerful entity that by their own beliefs caused this.
 
2013-05-20 08:18:48 PM
CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK
 
2013-05-20 08:18:51 PM

Mitrovarr: optikeye:
It's actually true. Here in Alabama they where useless for the Tuscaloosa Tornado outbreak.
All money to the red-cross goes into their 'general fund' very little of that actually reaches people in need.
Better to go on a website and donate to the local chapter of the Salvation Army in OKC---they target the area; and a very streamlined overhead cost.

While I'm not sure about this specific case, worrying about executive salaries or 'general funds' is not always a good idea with charities. If you want a huge, multinational charitable organization to survive and function, you need career work from educated professionals. It's not at all unreasonable that some of them, particularly highly educated or very experienced ones, might have six figure salaries. As far as 'general funds' go, the Red Cross does that because well known disasters tend to get carpet-bombed with way more aid than they can use while lesser ones are completely ignored; a general fund helps spread some of that out.


I am going to echo these sentiments, both in my experiences after the Alabama tornadoes (they actually tried to impede other groups from doing relief work when they showed up to slap notices on rubble), and after a major fire at my apartment complex last week that displaced 130 people. They carted off the displaced to a shelter and gave them a comfort kit, but that was it - and it took me raising some hell for them to even be willing to work with me to connect local nonprofits to the victims. They actually REFUSED my assistance in organizing additional aid. It's not like I'm just some random schmoe off the street, either, I'm a professor who runs a nonprofit center at the local university and I've got excellent contacts in the local nonprofit community.

The Red Cross is not worth your money. Some of the best relief work I saw done after the tornadoes was done by C.A.R.E. out of Intercourse, PA. It's part of the Mennonite Disaster Service.

http://www.mds.mennonite.net/
 
2013-05-20 08:18:55 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: How big are schools in OKC?
My HS had over 4k students.


most schools here are much bigger.  That was a particularly small school.
 
2013-05-20 08:18:56 PM
Plaza Tower sounds like it's gonna be bad "more than 2 dozen" in the rubble, (shut-up about Moore
jokes :( )
/Such a sad day.
//How are the other tornado warnings going along the line?
/Just watching 9 out of where ever.
 
2013-05-20 08:19:10 PM

ontariolightning: 37 dead


Fark...
 
2013-05-20 08:19:20 PM

RatOmeter: like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!


They never cancel school for forecast tornadoes or t-storms, you'd never get through the school year.

/lived in Nebraska
//did many duck & cover actions in elementary school
///May 6, 1975, one took out about 1/4 of Omaha, went over my school, luckily only 3 dead in the city
 
2013-05-20 08:19:31 PM
AP Newsflash: State medical examiner's office has confirmed 37 dead from the Oklahoma tornado so far, with the number expected to rise
 
2013-05-20 08:19:34 PM

jdcgonzalez: Things just got interesting here in NW Arkansas. Tornado warning and severe thunderstorms. It went from still and quiet to torrential in a matter of seconds.


Stay safe, Farker!
 
2013-05-20 08:19:37 PM
AP reporting from OK State authorities saying 37 dead, number expected to rise.
 
2013-05-20 08:19:43 PM

Shadow Blasko: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?

Both really... Winds are horizontal, but there are updrafts and variations in wind speed that create little spinning eddies that throw things everywhere.

Also the difference in wind speed from ground level to just above ground level (faster) creates lift.

But.. mostly just horizontal when you get down to the "what would I feel standing near it"


Okay. So if I understand correctly, debris can get sucked way up if the drafts are right but primarily its just fierce spinning winds. In other words cartoons and media have taken some creative liberties with what the middle of a tornado does. Thanks!
 
2013-05-20 08:19:48 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


Here ya go.
 
2013-05-20 08:20:00 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


There is a rotating updraft in the center of the storm.  The tornado itself isn't necessarily sucking upward, but the entire storm can be.  It's this rotating updraft that spawns the tornado in the first place.
 
2013-05-20 08:20:08 PM
/don't even wanna do the "in a row" joke :-(
 
2013-05-20 08:20:24 PM
WHAT THE FARK!

They've been focusing on the school for so long, they just showed some flyovers of a few neighborhoods and it looks like Dresden ten times over....
 
2013-05-20 08:20:34 PM

Bontesla: jdcgonzalez: Things just got interesting here in NW Arkansas. Tornado warning and severe thunderstorms. It went from still and quiet to torrential in a matter of seconds.

Stay safe, Farker!


That'll be me in about 5 hours if these things stay as strong as this.

/NE Arkansas
 
2013-05-20 08:20:34 PM

Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK


This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.
 
2013-05-20 08:21:01 PM
37...ugggh.
 
2013-05-20 08:21:01 PM
Boards stuck into concrete at the medical center.
 
2013-05-20 08:21:03 PM

reillan: That was a particularly small school.


You mean the OKC school(s) that was hit, or my school?
 
2013-05-20 08:21:26 PM

brothajahn: MSNBC reported 30 minutes ago that 24 kids were dead.
Now they are not reporting that and I have not seen any other
news source report that.
I want them to be wrong.


This x 100.
 
2013-05-20 08:21:33 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


Both, once a town called New Hope got hit 30 miles away, pieces of debris started falling where I was working about 10 minutes later.
 
2013-05-20 08:21:49 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


Vacuum. The clouds above are "Sucking upwards (updraft) a huge one that starts to spin and just like in a sink it get going fast enough to form a funnel. The faster the winds the more powerful the funnel is at its tip. This is how things can get thrown for great distances.
 
2013-05-20 08:21:51 PM
37 dead so far.  :-(
 
2013-05-20 08:21:56 PM
Jesus. KFOR said people are looting. But apparently, the police have said "You loot, we shoot."
 
2013-05-20 08:22:04 PM

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: Bontesla: jdcgonzalez: Things just got interesting here in NW Arkansas. Tornado warning and severe thunderstorms. It went from still and quiet to torrential in a matter of seconds.

Stay safe, Farker!

That'll be me in about 5 hours if these things stay as strong as this.

/NE Arkansas


You stay safe, too.
It sounds like it's going to be a very bumpy night :/
 
2013-05-20 08:22:28 PM

RatOmeter: JolobinSmokin: I'm in Tulsa and over the past 2 days in Mid-town it has hardly rained and barely any wind, I only brought my trash cans, and lawn furniture cushions inside a couple hours ago and still no weather here.

Just like Stillwater the last couple of days.   Everything,  the bad shiat and the rain, just went south and west.

Old joke.  There's a lot of people in Oklahoma City and quite a few people in Norman.  But there's Moore people in between.

/a few less tonight.
//Damned sad people didn't take extraordinary measures, like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!

Norman NWS had a big, bloody map predicting where this stuff would happen published before 11am this morning.

/sobs


Generally they only make plans for that kind of action if the NWS issues a PDS (Particularly Dangerous Situation) warning. Those are extremely rare, and I do not believe that there was one today.

Also, I know this is not going to be a popular opinion at the moment, but your kids are generally safer in school than they are at home in this case. RARELY are their mass casualty events at schools.

In this case, and in the case of an EF5, it would not matter. School won't protect you, home wont protect you. Unless you are underground you are in deep crap.
 
2013-05-20 08:22:28 PM

jdcgonzalez: Things just got interesting here in NW Arkansas. Tornado warning and severe thunderstorms. It went from still and quiet to torrential in a matter of seconds.


Keep your head on the ground. They're saying this thing went from nothing to complete devastation in less than an hour.
 
2013-05-20 08:22:39 PM

skozlaw: They've been focusing on the school for so long, they just showed some flyovers of a few neighborhoods and it looks like Dresden ten times over....


Mile wide tornado, on the ground for 30 miles, including many of those miles in a densely populated area, there's gonna be a lot of that.
 
2013-05-20 08:22:46 PM
KAMC News @KAMCNews 1m

Breaking: State Medical Examiner confirming 37 dead in Moore, OK. 36 died in the May 3rd, 1999 tornado
 
2013-05-20 08:22:58 PM
Press conference coming at 8:30 eastern.
 
2013-05-20 08:23:13 PM
Nother round keyed up for tomorrow. Any of you Arklatex farkers take care of yourselves and pay attention tomorrow afternoon. Its going to be bad again.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk.html
 
2013-05-20 08:23:20 PM

ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.


No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel
 
2013-05-20 08:23:31 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: reillan: That was a particularly small school.

You mean the OKC school(s) that was hit, or my school?


Are you posting while stoned? Go for a bike ride for awhile then remember google still exists.
 
2013-05-20 08:23:39 PM

knbber2: RatOmeter: like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!

They never cancel school for forecast tornadoes or t-storms, you'd never get through the school year.

/lived in Nebraska
//did many duck & cover actions in elementary school
///May 6, 1975, one took out about 1/4 of Omaha, went over my school, luckily only 3 dead in the city


They do here if it's supposed to be really bad. Generally at noon so it counts as a full day.
 
2013-05-20 08:24:07 PM
Personally, I blame Al Gore for inventing Climate Change.
 
2013-05-20 08:24:29 PM

Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.

No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel


*curls up into ball*
 
2013-05-20 08:24:49 PM
my buddy in neosho, mo just told me that we've chased worse storms in my t-bird back in the day so hopefully not another repeat of joplin.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:11 PM

ancker: I didn't say anything about praying instead of donating, did I? I just said there's no need to make atheism the point of your posts.


Yea, I just don't see your point in getting pissy about it. Hundreds of thousands of people right now are running around praying or saying you should pray which accomplishes absolutely nothing and you're pissed off because one or two people on Fark made a crack about religion which accomplishes absolutely nothing?

Get over yourself. Just ignore it if it bothers you and move on.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:19 PM

Minarets: Boards stuck into concrete at the medical center.


Yeah I saw that.  Crazy.  You see isolated pics of that going on but that was a whole wall full.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:28 PM

PacificaFitz: ancker: How about you have some empathy for those affected instead of using this tragedy as a soapbox for your atheism.

What is wrong with you people? The victims have enough to deal with, they don't need you trying to rip away the only sense of comfort they have right now.

It's hard for us non believers to understand why a victim of this type of horrific event would still have faith in an all powerful entity that by their own beliefs caused this.


In all fairness, it's probably a little unfair to expect any sort of rational thought from someone who has survived that kind of experience. I have no idea what I would say if a reporter shoved a camera in my face just after I've narrowly avoided death, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be logical.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:35 PM
@KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:41 PM

ariseatex: Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.

No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel

*curls up into ball*


The KFOR reporter lost it while reporting you are not alone.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:42 PM

Warthog: Aaaannd the local hospital has just thrown HIPAA out the window, to announce the name of a 9 year old child in their care and ask the parents to call them.

/I'm OK with this.


Very cool. Fark HIPAA, especially in circumstances such as these.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:42 PM

Bunny Deville: The thing that makes me so sad right now is that if we know, in Huntsville, that there is a strong likelihood of tornadoes, they cancel school well before the storms get here. Not that it probably would have mattered in this case, I understand that...


I was talking to my mom earlier and she asked "Why didn't they close the schools today?"
/Although yea probably wouldn't have mattered.
/So sad.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:53 PM

skozlaw: WHAT THE FARK!

They've been focusing on the school for so long, they just showed some flyovers of a few neighborhoods and it looks like Dresden ten times over....


The path at one point was quite wide and the homes are reduced to scrap lumber and small chunks. It's the worst tornado devastation seen in awhile. Street after street and most folks rode it out in bathtubs and closets.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:55 PM

LunarAtom: Nother round keyed up for tomorrow. Any of you Arklatex farkers take care of yourselves and pay attention tomorrow afternoon. Its going to be bad again.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk.html


Dammit, I'm in Paris, TX / Hugo, OK this week.  Looks like its my turn.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:56 PM
Weather Underground's tornado page is showing a line of angry red boxes. Good God, this is going to get a lot worse.
 
2013-05-20 08:26:19 PM

Shadow Blasko: RatOmeter: JolobinSmokin: I'm in Tulsa and over the past 2 days in Mid-town it has hardly rained and barely any wind, I only brought my trash cans, and lawn furniture cushions inside a couple hours ago and still no weather here.

Just like Stillwater the last couple of days.   Everything,  the bad shiat and the rain, just went south and west.

Old joke.  There's a lot of people in Oklahoma City and quite a few people in Norman.  But there's Moore people in between.

/a few less tonight.
//Damned sad people didn't take extraordinary measures, like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!

Norman NWS had a big, bloody map predicting where this stuff would happen published before 11am this morning.

/sobs

Generally they only make plans for that kind of action if the NWS issues a PDS (Particularly Dangerous Situation) warning. Those are extremely rare, and I do not believe that there was one today.

Also, I know this is not going to be a popular opinion at the moment, but your kids are generally safer in school than they are at home in this case. RARELY are their mass casualty events at schools.

In this case, and in the case of an EF5, it would not matter. School won't protect you, home wont protect you. Unless you are underground you are in deep crap.


Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out
 
2013-05-20 08:26:36 PM

Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.


Guarantee they're going after the oxy.
 
2013-05-20 08:26:55 PM
aedude01:
How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.

Depends.  Is it a school of fish?

/probably too soon for jokes
 
2013-05-20 08:26:58 PM

IronTom: Tornadoes are planetary storms.  Defend your self using the planet.  Build underground homes and businesses.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 97x143]  [assets.dornob.com image 468x313]
Bless the poor OK folks.


That's awesome if you have enough money for a custom home that requires lots of excavation. Or if you like windows or something weird like that.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:05 PM
I was in the damage path in Joplin an hour or so after the tornado went through there. What I'm seeing on TV from the ground and from the air looks uncomfortably similar...entire neighborhoods of houses that are now a pile of boards, not a basement in sight. Cars tossed into piles, wrapped around trees, etc.

Joplin killed 160+ people in a less-populated area (though granted it went right through the middle of the urban area), and it hit on a slow Sunday afternoon, not the middle of a weekday afternoon. It took til the next day before the magnitude of the death toll really became apparent, I fear the same may be the case here.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:14 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: How big are schools in OKC?
My HS had over 4k students.


Some can be pretty big, not sure how big, but the greater OKC area has over 1 million people, it's a city like any other.
But as soon as you leave the city, you're pretty much in BFE.  Other than Tulsa a few towns like Norman/Stillwater, there's not much.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:19 PM

PacificaFitz: ancker: How about you have some empathy for those affected instead of using this tragedy as a soapbox for your atheism.

What is wrong with you people? The victims have enough to deal with, they don't need you trying to rip away the only sense of comfort they have right now.

It's hard for us non believers to understand why a victim of this type of horrific event would still have faith in an all powerful entity that by their own beliefs caused this.


And I'm not saying you should. But that belief is what's comforting these people right now. Why don't you respect their beliefs and let them be for the night?

If my world was just turned upside down, literally, the last thing I'd want to have happen is people running up to me to point out that what was probably a very large part of my life and upbringing was a sham, and I should feel stupid for ever having believed in it.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:49 PM

Bunny Deville: They do here if it's supposed to be really bad. Generally at noon so it counts as a full day.


Hmm, interesting, I lived down in Montgomery for a year (1998-99), and don't remember that happening although we had some bad storms.  I guess it is pretty rare.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:14 PM

WhyteRaven74: skozlaw: They've been focusing on the school for so long, they just showed some flyovers of a few neighborhoods and it looks like Dresden ten times over....

Mile wide tornado, on the ground for 30 miles, including many of those miles in a densely populated area, there's gonna be a lot of that.


Somebody yesterday, was saying Fujita based the scale on damage from nukes.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:15 PM

Vortex Dweller: Uchiha_Cycliste: reillan: That was a particularly small school.

You mean the OKC school(s) that was hit, or my school?

Are you posting while stoned? Go for a bike ride for awhile then remember google still exists.


Honestly, I did some googling to try to figure out my elementary school's size and couldn't. I figured asking would be more likely to get a result
And I can't exercise today, and I hate it.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:16 PM

Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.

No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel

*curls up into ball*

The KFOR reporter lost it while reporting you are not alone.


:-(
 
2013-05-20 08:28:17 PM

Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.


Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?
 
2013-05-20 08:28:18 PM

ArtosRC: Weather Underground's tornado page is showing a line of angry red boxes. Good God, this is going to get a lot worse.


Ffs.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:56 PM
Incredible radar loop of the tornado

m.uploadedit.com

/hot linked
 
2013-05-20 08:28:57 PM

TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out


No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.
 
2013-05-20 08:29:09 PM

Begoggle: Uchiha_Cycliste: How big are schools in OKC?
My HS had over 4k students.

Some can be pretty big, not sure how big, but the greater OKC area has over 1 million people, it's a city like any other.
But as soon as you leave the city, you're pretty much in BFE.  Other than Tulsa a few towns like Norman/Stillwater, there's not much.


thanks
 
2013-05-20 08:29:10 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: aedude01:
How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.
Depends.  Is it a school of fish?
/probably too soon for jokes


The Oz joke? Funny. This one? Way too soon.
 
2013-05-20 08:29:16 PM
Thanks for the well wishes, farkers. Holding on. Tornader (thats what we call them hete) warning for another 20 minutes or so.
 
2013-05-20 08:29:28 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Guarantee they're going after the oxy.


I'm glad to know that my faith in humanity is....well....just the same as always

/not a whole lot
//bunch of savages in that town
 
2013-05-20 08:30:02 PM
I should source that, I commenter from Jeff Masters WunderBlog

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2 41 1
 
2013-05-20 08:30:09 PM

Minarets: Incredible radar loop of the tornado

[m.uploadedit.com image 640x480]

/hot linked


holy christ!
 
2013-05-20 08:30:10 PM

Tom_Slick: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?


I think everything's pretty chaotic right now. Whatever is going on - the Nat Guard will be on it.
 
2013-05-20 08:30:57 PM

Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.


Well, my wife and I joke that the "tools" are really for the reporters who shove the cameras in our face after the storm, so . . .
 
2013-05-20 08:31:02 PM
At least 37 dead now.  Terrible.
 
2013-05-20 08:31:09 PM
News conference should up any minute.
 
2013-05-20 08:31:35 PM

Tom_Slick: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?


Really?  Ok, I'll give you 0.5% helpers, 99.5% looters.
 
2013-05-20 08:31:56 PM
I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:14 PM

Minarets: Incredible radar loop of the tornado

[m.uploadedit.com image 640x480]

/hot linked


Doesn't get any more textbook than that.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:26 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:39 PM

Bontesla: Tom_Slick: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?

I think everything's pretty chaotic right now. Whatever is going on - the Nat Guard will be on it.


Judging from the pictures, the number of injured must be in the thousands.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:44 PM

ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.


probably includes the 7 that drowned, but not the ones they havent dug out yet
 
2013-05-20 08:32:44 PM

CraicBaby: Jesus. KFOR said people are looting. But apparently, the police have said "You loot, we shoot."


OKC is a very large, diverse city. Most of the people will pick up a shovel and start rebuilding. But, there's always an element of looting in all big disasters. Some people will always seek to improve their fortunes at the expense of others. We're better off without that kind of person.

/ if you loots, we shoots
 
2013-05-20 08:32:46 PM
Much of the rotation in the Joplin supercell went to the south of Joplin, and now they are off the gun.
 
2013-05-20 08:33:10 PM
Oh Fark. They're saying it's search and recovery not search and rescue at the school now?

That is just... fark...
 
2013-05-20 08:33:56 PM

RatOmeter: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?

The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.


Thanks, and do you know if it always sucks, or only sometimes (in some tornadoes). Or does it always suck but sometimes not as strongly?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:24 PM

slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.


How many kids wen't to your elementary school? Mine had 200 or so could you build a safe room large enough for the entire school population, where it would still be cost/risk effective? What about for middle or high schools?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:25 PM

Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.


My house is on a slab and has a "Tornado Closet" (read steel reinforced concrete box in the center of the house) I keep my go bag,  pry-bar, hatchet and a case of water. Should I have anything else in there?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:26 PM

knbber2: RatOmeter: like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!

They never cancel school for forecast tornadoes or t-storms, you'd never get through the school year.

/lived in Nebraska
//did many duck & cover actions in elementary school
///May 6, 1975, one took out about 1/4 of Omaha, went over my school, luckily only 3 dead in the city


This is the last week of school in most OK towns.  All the G. W. Bush instigated testing is finished for this year.  Worth it?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:31 PM
Tinker AFB is stepping up & offering 40 portable lighting units to aid the first responders.
 
2013-05-20 08:34:34 PM

ariseatex: Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.

No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel

*curls up into ball*


Hang in there hon {{ Hugs}}
/I've already broken down crying a few times following this today.
 
2013-05-20 08:34:51 PM
Crap, kids were in a bathroom, had to be broken water main.  1 of the 3 killed in Omaha when I was a kid was a waitress hiding in a bathroom in a small restaurant, she drowned as well.
 
2013-05-20 08:34:55 PM

DesktopHippie: Oh Fark. They're saying it's search and recovery not search and rescue at the school now?


They've been saying that on and off for a bit now. It would probably be a good idea to wait for the conference at this point.
 
2013-05-20 08:35:32 PM
 
2013-05-20 08:35:35 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Tinker AFB is stepping up & offering 40 portable lighting units to aid the first responders.


I hope generators and fuel are part of the deal.
 
2013-05-20 08:35:55 PM

slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.


It's Called money, ask your farking banker!
 
2013-05-20 08:36:16 PM

mrshowrules: Bathia_Mapes: Tinker AFB is stepping up & offering 40 portable lighting units to aid the first responders.

I hope generators and fuel are part of the deal.


I'd think it would be.
 
2013-05-20 08:36:35 PM

Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.

My house is on a slab and has a "Tornado Closet" (read steel reinforced concrete box in the center of the house) I keep my go bag,  pry-bar, hatchet and a case of water. Should I have anything else in there?


We have snacks for the kids and dog, and a battery powered radio
 
2013-05-20 08:36:52 PM

slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.


An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.
 
2013-05-20 08:37:22 PM
University of Oklahoma (@UofOklahoma) opening up housing spaces for displaced 405.325.2511
 
2013-05-20 08:38:06 PM

knbber2: Crap, kids were in a bathroom, had to be broken water main.  1 of the 3 killed in Omaha when I was a kid was a waitress hiding in a bathroom in a small restaurant, she drowned as well.


That never occurred to me as a possibility. That's horrific.
 
2013-05-20 08:38:13 PM
Just got word, all my family are accounted for safe.  Three did got stuck riding it out at the post office, the horror!
 
2013-05-20 08:38:21 PM

Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.

My house is on a slab and has a "Tornado Closet" (read steel reinforced concrete box in the center of the house) I keep my go bag,  pry-bar, hatchet and a case of water. Should I have anything else in there?


Work boots, gloves, helmets, and something that can make a lot of noise, for each person.
 
2013-05-20 08:38:27 PM
AdolfOliverPanties    

aedude01:
How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.
Depends.  Is it a school of fish?
/probably too soon for jokes


 Yea. That joke was lamer than FDR's legs.
 
2013-05-20 08:38:31 PM

schief2: I was in the damage path in Joplin an hour or so after the tornado went through there. What I'm seeing on TV from the ground and from the air looks uncomfortably similar...entire neighborhoods of houses that are now a pile of boards, not a basement in sight. Cars tossed into piles, wrapped around trees, etc.

Joplin killed 160+ people in a less-populated area (though granted it went right through the middle of the urban area), and it hit on a slow Sunday afternoon, not the middle of a weekday afternoon. It took til the next day before the magnitude of the death toll really became apparent, I fear the same may be the case here.


I was just talking with someone on how lucky the Joplin tornado was in comparison because even though it wiped out the high school, it happened on a Sunday afternoon and everyone was at the graduation ceremony at Missouri Southern University on the other (non-impacted) part of town.
 
2013-05-20 08:38:34 PM
Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.
 
2013-05-20 08:38:39 PM

TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio


I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.
 
2013-05-20 08:38:51 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: RatOmeter: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?

The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.

Thanks, and do you know if it always sucks, or only sometimes (in some tornadoes). Or does it always suck but sometimes not as strongly?


The one that hit New Hope that I was talking about was only a EF! or EF2 the debris was from a convenience store.
 
2013-05-20 08:39:04 PM

mrshowrules: Bathia_Mapes: Tinker AFB is stepping up & offering 40 portable lighting units to aid the first responders.

I hope generators and fuel are part of the deal.


Hopefully theyre the ones they wheel out to light up transient aircraft on the ramp. With the size of Tinker I would expect them to have quite a few of those handy.
 
2013-05-20 08:39:10 PM
Thanks Obama.
 
2013-05-20 08:39:25 PM

2xhelix: Just got word, all my family are accounted for safe.  Three did got stuck riding it out at the post office, the horror!


They'd never notice the extra wait for some assistance from the counter today.
 
2013-05-20 08:39:48 PM
It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.
 
2013-05-20 08:39:48 PM
OK, I get it.  People who don't believe in God think prayer is a waste of time.  It is utterly stupid to hope that people are found alive and well, are reunited with loved ones, and taken care of because hoping changes nothing according to a purely rational worldview.  And why be thankful that you barely survived a massive calamity if there is no God to thank (and if even if there were you can't know that you aren't on his to-do list for the next tornado)?  In the absence of compelling evidence for or against God, a willingness to believe has to be rooted in optimism.  I'll take that optimism over "don't waste your time praying" and "don't embarrass us both by thanking your made-up God" any day.
 
2013-05-20 08:39:52 PM
F*ck! They're removing the search & rescue people and bringing in cadaver dogs. :-(
 
2013-05-20 08:40:03 PM

Shadow Blasko: Work boots, gloves, helmets, and something that can make a lot of noise, for each person.


Check, Check, nope, nope.  I am making a list.
 
2013-05-20 08:40:08 PM
Joplin was, by a huge margin, the deadliest tornado in U.S. history since the advent of Doppler radar. 158 causalities. No other tornado in the history of modern forecasting is even in the top 25.

This might make it.
 
2013-05-20 08:40:30 PM

wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.


Better building this then tanks the Pentagon doesn't need.  Infrastructure spending would be could for the economy right now.  Keeps people employed and it should be separate from the education budget.  Plus, you could easily justify this with the frequency of tornadoes in certain areas.
 
2013-05-20 08:41:00 PM

Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.


In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.
 
2013-05-20 08:41:28 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


It will be.
 
2013-05-20 08:41:28 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


Sadly, it will likely be higher.
 
2013-05-20 08:41:37 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


I hate to be negative but.... yet.

When I first started watching it was four, then ten, now thirty seven.

They ain't done digging. Not by a good measure.
 
2013-05-20 08:41:38 PM
http://kfor.com/2013/05/20/efforts-switch-to-recovery-at-moore-okla-e l ementary-school/

From the article....
First responders told KFOR-TV's Lance West they don't believe there are anymore survivors in the Plaza Towers Elementary school.

So far the bodies of seven children have been recovered.

Crews said they believe 20 to 30 more children may be inside but again, do not believe there are anymore survivors.



 Let that sink in for a minute. I harp on our school system here in Northern Va for hitting the goddamn panic button. No more. Never. Ever.
I can't even find the right words right now.
I yelled at my daughter earlier for something rather innocuous. We're heading downstairs for some ice cream.
 
2013-05-20 08:41:47 PM

2xhelix: Just got word, all my family are accounted for safe.  Three did got stuck riding it out at the post office, the horror!


Glad hear some good news!  Have drink.
 
2013-05-20 08:41:50 PM
Possibly > 10,000 people displaced.
 
2013-05-20 08:42:00 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.


Bonus question, now fold what you know into imaging multiple vortex tornadoes.

/It's really just a huge cluster of hate and rage rotating (but not always in the same direction) and eating things.
 
2013-05-20 08:42:14 PM

Linkster: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

It's Called money, ask your farking banker!


I'm amazed at how many people are really asking "the tough questions" about why buildings aren't built a certain way. As if NO ONE has thought of their solutions before. Ooooooh they're so smart!
 
2013-05-20 08:42:18 PM

2xhelix: Just got word, all my family are accounted for safe.  Three did got stuck riding it out at the post office, the horror!


i.imgur.com

Considering it's most likely a sturdy brick building, they could have done much, much worse.
 
2013-05-20 08:42:32 PM
Damn Sheppard Smith losing it on Fox News, this sucks.
 
2013-05-20 08:42:47 PM
Okay, I lost it when NBC interviewed that guy. I'm officially crying.
 
2013-05-20 08:42:50 PM
Listening to that KFOR reporter realising on air that his house is gone and he has no idea where he is going to sleep tonight. "Guess I could sleep in my office at the news station..."
 
2013-05-20 08:42:56 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


Just wait. A lot of responders are laying bodies out to be collected. They're calling the locations over the scanner for collection. It's going to be high.
 
2013-05-20 08:43:17 PM

2xhelix: Just got word, all my family are accounted for safe.  Three did got stuck riding it out at the post office, the horror!


Cool.
 
2013-05-20 08:43:38 PM

Mrtraveler01: schief2: I was in the damage path in Joplin an hour or so after the tornado went through there. What I'm seeing on TV from the ground and from the air looks uncomfortably similar...entire neighborhoods of houses that are now a pile of boards, not a basement in sight. Cars tossed into piles, wrapped around trees, etc.

Joplin killed 160+ people in a less-populated area (though granted it went right through the middle of the urban area), and it hit on a slow Sunday afternoon, not the middle of a weekday afternoon. It took til the next day before the magnitude of the death toll really became apparent, I fear the same may be the case here.

I was just talking with someone on how lucky the Joplin tornado was in comparison because even though it wiped out the high school, it happened on a Sunday afternoon and everyone was at the graduation ceremony at Missouri Southern University on the other (non-impacted) part of town.


Yeah, as badly farked as Joplin was, if the storm had hit an hour earlier on the other side of town, or if Joplin HS had held their graduation at the school instead of MSSU (the brick high school building pretty much looked like Plaza Towers Elementary), the casualties would have easily been 5-10x higher.
 
2013-05-20 08:43:56 PM
Al Roeker on the scene in Moore
 
2013-05-20 08:44:09 PM

TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.


Whereabouts in Georgia? I moved from Ohio to ATL-suburb in 2007. There's some pretty great areas around here.
 
2013-05-20 08:44:19 PM

TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.


Fortunately F4 and F5 tornadoes are very rare in Georgia, there are plenty of smaller ones and if you live in a hilly area like I do you get zero visual warning.
 
2013-05-20 08:44:25 PM

artemusprine: OK, I get it.  People who don't believe in God think prayer is a waste of time.  It is utterly stupid to hope that people are found alive and well, are reunited with loved ones, and taken care of because hoping changes nothing according to a purely rational worldview.  And why be thankful that you barely survived a massive calamity if there is no God to thank (and if even if there were you can't know that you aren't on his to-do list for the next tornado)?  In the absence of compelling evidence for or against God, a willingness to believe has to be rooted in optimism.  I'll take that optimism over "don't waste your time praying" and "don't embarrass us both by thanking your made-up God" any day.


I'm a Christian but I see their point in thinking it's stupid when someone is saying thank god they're alive while just a few blocks a way, a bunch of children drowned in a bathroom destroyed by a tornado.
 
2013-05-20 08:44:34 PM

DesktopHippie: Listening to that KFOR reporter realising on air that his house is gone and he has no idea where he is going to sleep tonight. "Guess I could sleep in my office at the news station..."


No, no - he said "IF" his house was gone, now that it was.
 
2013-05-20 08:44:43 PM
23 missing children
 
2013-05-20 08:45:01 PM

Shadow Blasko: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

Bonus question, now fold what you know into imaging multiple vortex tornadoes.

/It's really just a huge cluster of hate and rage rotating (but not always in the same direction) and eating things.


I would think the big guy would encourage the little guys to achieve speeds that exceed what is expected for tornado's that small.
 
2013-05-20 08:45:02 PM

Di Atribe: Linkster: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

It's Called money, ask your farking banker!

I'm amazed at how many people are really asking "the tough questions" about why buildings aren't built a certain way. As if NO ONE has thought of their solutions before. Ooooooh they're so smart!


Di, Let it be.  Not now.
 
2013-05-20 08:45:16 PM

Bontesla: TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.

Whereabouts in Georgia? I moved from Ohio to ATL-suburb in 2007. There's some pretty great areas around here.


Fayette County, west of Fayetteville
 
2013-05-20 08:45:57 PM

Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: Work boots, gloves, helmets, and something that can make a lot of noise, for each person.

Check, Check, nope, nope.  I am making a list.


Cheap bicycle helmets will work better than nothing, but just have something to protect your head, even for after you get out of the saferoom.

Oh, and talk to your doctor or pharmacy about having a 10 day emergency supply of any essential medications for anyone in your family.

And, a list of post-event things you must do. IE - Turn off gas and/or water if possible (have tools to do both) etc
 
2013-05-20 08:45:58 PM

mrshowrules: wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.

Better building this then tanks the Pentagon doesn't need.  Infrastructure spending would be could for the economy right now.  Keeps people employed and it should be separate from the education budget.  Plus, you could easily justify this with the frequency of tornadoes in certain areas.


Forecasting now is at a point where schools could reasonably institute a no-school-today policy when these types of things are possible.  It's already been pointed out that this outbreak was predicted several days in advance.  Cancelling school a few days a year and making them up later would be way more cost-effective than building and retrofitting school buildings with storm shelters.
 
2013-05-20 08:46:07 PM

knbber2: Bunny Deville: They do here if it's supposed to be really bad. Generally at noon so it counts as a full day.

Hmm, interesting, I lived down in Montgomery for a year (1998-99), and don't remember that happening although we had some bad storms.  I guess it is pretty rare.


Some years it never happens. Madison County and Cullman County get the worst tornadoes in the WORLD, well I mean apart from this monster. Remember how I would biatch in the football threads about having to work on my thesis? It was on tornado density and proximation/angle to rivers in our area. It ended up just scaring the holy living hell out of me when it was all done. Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.
 
2013-05-20 08:46:07 PM

2xhelix: Just got word, all my family are accounted for safe.  Three did got stuck riding it out at the post office, the horror!


That's wonderful!!!! I'm glad to hear the good news.
 
2013-05-20 08:46:16 PM

TommyDeuce: Al Roeker on the scene in Moore


As if they haven't suffered enough.
 
2013-05-20 08:46:25 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: RatOmeter: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?

The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.

Thanks, and do you know if it always sucks, or only sometimes (in some tornadoes). Or does it always suck but sometimes not as strongly?!

The one that hit New Hope that I was talking about was only a EF! or EF2 the debris was from a convenience store.


That's just mind boggling. Assuming the debris traveled sideways at the same velocity it was falling, It had to have been sucked over 150K feet straight up!
 
2013-05-20 08:46:33 PM

Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.

Fortunately F4 and F5 tornadoes are very rare in Georgia, there are plenty of smaller ones and if you live in a hilly area like I do you get zero visual warning.


Hilly, wooded area - totally going to have the weather-radio plugged in with battery back-up
 
2013-05-20 08:46:37 PM

Mrs.Sharpier: star_topology: People who risk their lives for animals are a special group. That's the second one today they've interviewed.

I feel awful for all the lame horses standing about, they'll all be put down no doubt. I know human loss is infinitely more tragic but animals are just as innocent as children. Poor biatches.


Yeah, just because they are on their feet doesn't mean they're OK.  Hopefully any that are suffering will be put down ASAP.
 
2013-05-20 08:47:14 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


It will be, that's just from a couple of schools, they haven't gotten to the subdivisions yet.
 
2013-05-20 08:47:15 PM
No, I know it will go higher, but you have to see it to understand what I'm saying.

/two people I know (separate houses) have been wiped out, like to the foundation
//a couple of relatives have not been accounted for and we are waiting to hear back
///it literally looks like the place was bombed
 
2013-05-20 08:47:19 PM

skozlaw: basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.

I hate to be negative but.... yet.

When I first started watching it was four, then ten, now thirty seven.

They ain't done digging. Not by a good measure.


Yeah, I wouldn't take any count as gospel until at least 24 hours have passed. Sigh. Just horrifying. I can't believe the awful news on those kiddos. Worst worst worst.
 
2013-05-20 08:47:29 PM

Witchydiva: DesktopHippie: Listening to that KFOR reporter realising on air that his house is gone and he has no idea where he is going to sleep tonight. "Guess I could sleep in my office at the news station..."

No, no - he said "IF" his house was gone, now that it was.


Oh good - I came in right as he said he had "no idea" where he was going. Hope his house is okay. Dude has had a pretty horrible day.
 
2013-05-20 08:47:43 PM
shiatty day! hold your loved ones close tonight
 
2013-05-20 08:47:43 PM

TommyDeuce: Bontesla: TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.

Whereabouts in Georgia? I moved from Ohio to ATL-suburb in 2007. There's some pretty great areas around here.

Fayette County, west of Fayetteville


Oh no way. I'm in Coweta County (Senoia to be exact). That's a pretty good area. Welcome to Georgia!
 
2013-05-20 08:47:45 PM

Tom_Slick: I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that, too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.


Get one that also has a hand cranked generator built in as a backup. You only need to crank it for a few seconds every 10 minutes or so. Something like this one or this one with a built in LED flashlight.
 
2013-05-20 08:47:50 PM

TommyDeuce: Bontesla: TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.

Whereabouts in Georgia? I moved from Ohio to ATL-suburb in 2007. There's some pretty great areas around here.

Fayette County, west of Fayetteville


I lived and finished high school in Peachtree City.  I live on Lake Lanier now in a town whose name I hate to mention aloud.
 
2013-05-20 08:47:54 PM

Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.

My house is on a slab and has a "Tornado Closet" (read steel reinforced concrete box in the center of the house) I keep my go bag,  pry-bar, hatchet and a case of water. Should I have anything else in there?



Flashlight! And maybe a basic first aid kit, too.
 
2013-05-20 08:48:02 PM

wxboy: mrshowrules: wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.

Better building this then tanks the Pentagon doesn't need.  Infrastructure spending would be could for the economy right now.  Keeps people employed and it should be separate from the education budget.  Plus, you could easily justify this with the frequency of tornadoes in certain areas.

Forecasting now is at a point where schools could reasonably institute a no-school-today policy when these types of things are possible.  It's already been pointed out that this outbreak was predicted several days in advance.  Cancelling school a few days a year and making them up later would be way more cost-effective than building and retrofitting school buildings with storm shelters.


For many people, they can't afford to stay home from work or risk being laid off for doing so.  It comes back to economic drivers again.
 
2013-05-20 08:48:18 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Okay. So if I understand correctly, debris can get sucked way up if the drafts are right but primarily its just fierce spinning winds. In other words cartoons and media have taken some creative liberties with what the middle of a tornado does. Thanks!


Tornados do suck.  The wall clouds where they form are a huge low pressure system and that cases an updraft that tends to go from about 3,000 feet up to about 30,000.  Hail bounces around in that from the updraft so the vertical winds happen to be high enough to counter gravity for things like grape fruit sized chunks of ice.  As those wall clouds get close to the ground, you can get the characteristic funnel and once that forms, the forces in it help reinforce the vertical air flow as cyclone helps drive air away from the low pressure point at the center.   The NWS skywarn web site has lots of useful on how they work.
 
2013-05-20 08:48:34 PM
Fayette County, west of Fayetteville


---------


near Fayetteville here.
Just FYI, we get tornadoes too.
Spalding County / Henry County / Fayetteville-Griffin-Hampton got hit in 2011.
Six dead then. Was an F3.
 
2013-05-20 08:48:35 PM
Ugh... NBC is at the point where they don't know what to talk about anymore because there's no new info so they're just saying stupid, pointless shiat.
 
2013-05-20 08:49:18 PM

Enormous-Schwanstucker: http://kfor.com/2013/05/20/efforts-switch-to-recovery-at-moore-okla-e l ementary-school/

From the article....
First responders told KFOR-TV's Lance West they don't believe there are anymore survivors in the Plaza Towers Elementary school.

So far the bodies of seven children have been recovered.

Crews said they believe 20 to 30 more children may be inside but again, do not believe there are anymore survivors.


 Let that sink in for a minute. I harp on our school system here in Northern Va for hitting the goddamn panic button. No more. Never. Ever.
I can't even find the right words right now.
I yelled at my daughter earlier for something rather innocuous. We're heading downstairs for some ice cream.


Like I said earlier, I spent the morning at my daughter's elementary school hanging out with the fourth graders at their party and awards ceremony. Then I came home to hear this. When I heard about the confirmed bodies at plaza towers, I literally started crying while I was at publix picking up my son's prescription.
 
2013-05-20 08:49:29 PM

basemetal: No, I know it will go higher, but you have to see it to understand what I'm saying.

/two people I know (separate houses) have been wiped out, like to the foundation
//a couple of relatives have not been accounted for and we are waiting to hear back
///it literally looks like the place was bombed


I've heard that Moore Medical is destroyed. Dispatchers were trying to contact the facility....
 
2013-05-20 08:49:32 PM

Shadow Blasko: Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: Work boots, gloves, helmets, and something that can make a lot of noise, for each person.

Check, Check, nope, nope.  I am making a list.

Cheap bicycle helmets will work better than nothing, but just have something to protect your head, even for after you get out of the saferoom.

Oh, and talk to your doctor or pharmacy about having a 10 day emergency supply of any essential medications for anyone in your family.

And, a list of post-event things you must do. IE - Turn off gas and/or water if possible (have tools to do both) etc


They interviewed a lady earlier she was still wearing a batters helmet, cool lady she was obviously shaken up but alive.
 
2013-05-20 08:49:45 PM

optikeye: Geeze their interviewing one guy that's home was destroyed and he's talking about how all his guns where in a gun safe and he only lost one gun. Seriously, WTF dude.


1. Your home is destroyed by a huge massive force and you miraculously survive- he is probably in a bit of a daze/shock.

2. People don't practice what they are going to say when their home is destroyed and the news want to interview them.

3. Give the guy a break his home was destroyed and he probably has no idea what friends and neighbors have or have not lost.
 
2013-05-20 08:49:49 PM

Shadow Blasko: Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: Work boots, gloves, helmets, and something that can make a lot of noise, for each person.

Check, Check, nope, nope.  I am making a list.

Cheap bicycle helmets will work better than nothing, but just have something to protect your head, even for after you get out of the saferoom.

Oh, and talk to your doctor or pharmacy about having a 10 day emergency supply of any essential medications for anyone in your family.

And, a list of post-event things you must do. IE - Turn off gas and/or water if possible (have tools to do both) etc


If vision is bad for anyone in the family, include a spare set of glasses in that go-bag (keep your last set in there when they're replaced if you can't afford a good new set).
 
2013-05-20 08:49:59 PM
Dr. Greg Forbes has given this tornado a rating of EF-5 and if anybody knows it is Forbes. He studied under Fujita.

I'm at a loss for words. I really am. I love chasing, I love tornadoes but I can't stand seeing them hit populated areas like this, especially when people get killed. If only we could have every tornado be in a field far from civilization.

My thoughts are with the families, the first responders, anyone who has seen this devastation first hand and even to the farkers here watching it and somehow finding conversation and silver linings. This is just horrific.
 
2013-05-20 08:50:03 PM

Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.


get something like this: http://www.etoncorp.com/en/productdisplay/solarlink-fr370

/mine has a LLBean branding instead of ARC, otherwise identical
 
2013-05-20 08:50:07 PM
Whereabouts in Georgia? I moved from Ohio to ATL-suburb in 2007. There's some pretty great areas around here.
Fayette County, west of Fayetteville
I lived and finished high school in Peachtree City.  I live on Lake Lanier now in a town whose name I hate to mention aloud.

-------------------------------
Cacapoopypeepyshire?

Oh wait, that's West of Atlanta........
 
2013-05-20 08:50:17 PM

Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: Bontesla: TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.

Whereabouts in Georgia? I moved from Ohio to ATL-suburb in 2007. There's some pretty great areas around here.

Fayette County, west of Fayetteville

I lived and finished high school in Peachtree City.  I live on Lake Lanier now in a town whose name I hate to mention aloud.


I work in PTC. They have some pretty stellar school systems.
 
2013-05-20 08:50:26 PM

Tom_Slick: I live on Lake Lanier now in a town whose name I hate to mention aloud.


Cumming?

/only Georgia town I can think of with a name that would qualify
 
2013-05-20 08:50:40 PM

Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: Bontesla: TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

In process of a move from Iowa to Georgia - I'm adding a hand-crank light/radio/loud noise maker.

/If you're going to the shack, get a weather radio with an alert function.

Whereabouts in Georgia? I moved from Ohio to ATL-suburb in 2007. There's some pretty great areas around here.

Fayette County, west of Fayetteville

I lived and finished high school in Peachtree City.  I live on Lake Lanier now in a town whose name I hate to mention aloud.


Apartment I'm in for the rest of the week is in PTC - love walking the trails (and dodging golf carts)

/We'll have to set up a "south of ATL" Fark party - on a less stressful night.
 
2013-05-20 08:50:52 PM

Bontesla: basemetal: No, I know it will go higher, but you have to see it to understand what I'm saying.

/two people I know (separate houses) have been wiped out, like to the foundation
//a couple of relatives have not been accounted for and we are waiting to hear back
///it literally looks like the place was bombed

I've heard that Moore Medical is destroyed. Dispatchers were trying to contact the facility....


Considering there's about a couple dozen cars stacked up in at the main entrance, I'd imagine it's pretty bad.
 
2013-05-20 08:51:02 PM

Fiction Fan: Fayette County, west of Fayetteville


---------


near Fayetteville here.
Just FYI, we get tornadoes too.
Spalding County / Henry County / Fayetteville-Griffin-Hampton got hit in 2011.
Six dead then. Was an F3.


Yeah, I knew people who lost everything in Griffin.
 
2013-05-20 08:51:21 PM

wxboy: mrshowrules: wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.

Better building this then tanks the Pentagon doesn't need.  Infrastructure spending would be could for the economy right now.  Keeps people employed and it should be separate from the education budget.  Plus, you could easily justify this with the frequency of tornadoes in certain areas.

Forecasting now is at a point where schools could reasonably institute a no-school-today policy when these types of things are possible.  It's already been pointed out that this outbreak was predicted several days in advance.  Cancelling school a few days a year and making them up later would be way more cost-effective than building and retrofitting school buildings with storm shelters.


Incredibly Counterproductive

This is a tragedy.  Having all those kids at home (and all the parents at home with them) in their particle board houses would have been an even worse tragedy.
 
2013-05-20 08:51:29 PM

WhyteRaven74: Tom_Slick: I live on Lake Lanier now in a town whose name I hate to mention aloud.

Cumming?

/only Georgia town I can think of with a name that would qualify


Winner Winner Chicken Dinner
 
2013-05-20 08:52:17 PM

mrshowrules: wxboy: mrshowrules: wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.

Better building this then tanks the Pentagon doesn't need.  Infrastructure spending would be could for the economy right now.  Keeps people employed and it should be separate from the education budget.  Plus, you could easily justify this with the frequency of tornadoes in certain areas.

Forecasting now is at a point where schools could reasonably institute a no-school-today policy when these types of things are possible.  It's already been pointed out that this outbreak was predicted several days in advance.  Cancelling school a few days a year and making them up later would be way more cost-effective than building and retrofitting school buildings with storm shelters.

For many people, they can't afford to stay home from work or risk being laid off for doing so.  It comes back to economic drivers again.


If parents can deal with snow days, they can deal with tornado days.  Of course some can't, but that's true everywhere.
 
2013-05-20 08:52:19 PM

Professor Farksworth: 'm at a loss for words. I really am. I love chasing, I love tornadoes but I can't stand seeing them hit populated areas like this, especially when people get killed. If only we could have every tornado be in a field far from civilization.


Just imagine if this was a few miles north up in OKC proper.
 
2013-05-20 08:52:22 PM

TommyDeuce: Apartment I'm in for the rest of the week is in PTC - love walking the trails (and dodging golf carts)


You can get a DUI on a Golf Cart just ask the former Mayor.
 
2013-05-20 08:52:25 PM
Ugh... NBC is at the point where they don't know what to talk about anymore because there's no new info so they're just saying stupid, pointless shiat.
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So business as usual then.
 
2013-05-20 08:52:41 PM

DON.MAC: Uchiha_Cycliste: Okay. So if I understand correctly, debris can get sucked way up if the drafts are right but primarily its just fierce spinning winds. In other words cartoons and media have taken some creative liberties with what the middle of a tornado does. Thanks!

Tornados do suck.  The wall clouds where they form are a huge low pressure system and that cases an updraft that tends to go from about 3,000 feet up to about 30,000.  Hail bounces around in that from the updraft so the vertical winds happen to be high enough to counter gravity for things like grape fruit sized chunks of ice.  As those wall clouds get close to the ground, you can get the characteristic funnel and once that forms, the forces in it help reinforce the vertical air flow as cyclone helps drive air away from the low pressure point at the center.   The NWS skywarn web site has lots of useful on how they work.


Thanks! Do you know what it is like way above the tornado?
Does that suction dissipate above the clouds, or create a huge upwards force for miles upwards? would a plane flying at 40,000 feet, 10,000 ft above the top of the clouds be safe?
 
2013-05-20 08:52:51 PM

Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: Work boots, gloves, helmets, and something that can make a lot of noise, for each person.

Check, Check, nope, nope.  I am making a list.


May want to add a handheld cb radio. Cell towers will be down and if you are trapped it may be the only way to communicate.
 
2013-05-20 08:53:02 PM
BBC have put up a handful of photos of the damage and rescue efforts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22605020

That looks pretty farked up.
 
2013-05-20 08:53:03 PM

mrshowrules: wxboy: mrshowrules: wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.

Better building this then tanks the Pentagon doesn't need.  Infrastructure spending would be could for the economy right now.  Keeps people employed and it should be separate from the education budget.  Plus, you could easily justify this with the frequency of tornadoes in certain areas.

Forecasting now is at a point where schools could reasonably institute a no-school-today policy when these types of things are possible.  It's already been pointed out that this outbreak was predicted several days in advance.  Cancelling school a few days a year and making them up later would be way more cost-effective than building and retrofitting school buildings with storm shelters.

For many people, they can't afford to stay home from work or risk being laid off for doing so.  It comes back to economic drivers again.


And what happens if they cancel school & people stay home from and then nothing touches down? It'd be like canceling for a snowstorm & then it doesn't snow. People be mighty pissed about it. AND another unintended consequence is that the next time they try to shut down for severe weather, people won't believe them. "Well last time nothing happened....." It's a fine line to walk. I wouldn't want my hand on the big red [siren] button.
 
2013-05-20 08:53:14 PM

spidermilk: optikeye: Geeze their interviewing one guy that's home was destroyed and he's talking about how all his guns where in a gun safe and he only lost one gun. Seriously, WTF dude.

1. Your home is destroyed by a huge massive force and you miraculously survive- he is probably in a bit of a daze/shock.

2. People don't practice what they are going to say when their home is destroyed and the news want to interview them.

3. Give the guy a break his home was destroyed and he probably has no idea what friends and neighbors have or have not lost.


I don't think they were giving him a hard time .. It's just .. WTF do you do kinda thing.
 
2013-05-20 08:53:26 PM

wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.

That's a good point.  You can't cram the students into a safe room  every time there's a warning, but this time they had a bit of time to prepare.  I watched this develop , and it's killing me that they had nowhere safe to go, but they still had to have known that this was coming.  They evaced the older grades earlier to a church or something like that.  I'm just pissed about, this and not really trying to argue anything.  I just think it could have been avoided.

 
2013-05-20 08:54:09 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: DON.MAC: Uchiha_Cycliste: Okay. So if I understand correctly, debris can get sucked way up if the drafts are right but primarily its just fierce spinning winds. In other words cartoons and media have taken some creative liberties with what the middle of a tornado does. Thanks!

Tornados do suck.  The wall clouds where they form are a huge low pressure system and that cases an updraft that tends to go from about 3,000 feet up to about 30,000.  Hail bounces around in that from the updraft so the vertical winds happen to be high enough to counter gravity for things like grape fruit sized chunks of ice.  As those wall clouds get close to the ground, you can get the characteristic funnel and once that forms, the forces in it help reinforce the vertical air flow as cyclone helps drive air away from the low pressure point at the center.   The NWS skywarn web site has lots of useful on how they work.

Thanks! Do you know what it is like way above the tornado?
Does that suction dissipate above the clouds, or create a huge upwards force for miles upwards? would a plane flying at 40,000 feet, 10,000 ft above the top of the clouds be safe?


It would likely have some hellacious turbulence due to the updraft/downdraft. Planes don't fly through thunderstorms tall enough to produce q tornado, though.
 
2013-05-20 08:54:10 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: RatOmeter: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?

The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.

Thanks, and do you know if it always sucks, or only sometimes (in some tornadoes). Or does it always suck but sometimes not as strongly?!

The one that hit New Hope that I was talking about was only a EF! or EF2 the debris was from a convenience store.

That's just mind boggling. Assuming the debris traveled sideways at the same velocity it was falling, It had to have been sucked over 150K feet straight up!


A storm that spawns even a small tornado is 50'000 or so feet tall the ones today were bigger and if you could have seen the a pics of the supercells from afar they would have had the classic anvil head shape at the top of the storm which means they have gotten as tall as a storm can get.
 
2013-05-20 08:54:15 PM

Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.


Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.
 
2013-05-20 08:54:26 PM

Di Atribe: And what happens if they cancel school & people stay home from and then nothing touches down? It'd be like canceling for a snowstorm & then it doesn't snow. People be mighty pissed about it. AND another unintended consequence is that the next time they try to shut down for severe weather, people won't believe them. "Well last time nothing happened....." It's a fine line to walk. I wouldn't want my hand on the big red [siren] button.


Precisely.  Same with evacuations.
 
2013-05-20 08:54:33 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.


it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.
 
2013-05-20 08:55:14 PM
51 confirmed dead, per CBS news
 
2013-05-20 08:55:19 PM

Bontesla: Fiction Fan: Fayette County, west of Fayetteville


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near Fayetteville here.
Just FYI, we get tornadoes too.
Spalding County / Henry County / Fayetteville-Griffin-Hampton got hit in 2011.
Six dead then. Was an F3.

Yeah, I knew people who lost everything in Griffin.


Yep, had my home inspector check roof carefully.  Several we looked at had new ones courtesy of that storm.

/Plenty familiar with twisters, have a number of friends in Parkersburg, IA (one of the first EF-5's)
 
2013-05-20 08:55:23 PM

Di Atribe: mrshowrules: wxboy: mrshowrules: wxboy: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

An average elementary school might have 200 or more students, and you can't just shove kids into a crawl space like sardines every time the sirens sound.  That would probably cause more problems than it solved.  Building something large enough to shelter everyone reasonably could double the cost of building, and in an era when education budgets are already tight, for the low low probability of an event both during school hours and strong enough to render current procedures inadequate.

Better building this then tanks the Pentagon doesn't need.  Infrastructure spending would be could for the economy right now.  Keeps people employed and it should be separate from the education budget.  Plus, you could easily justify this with the frequency of tornadoes in certain areas.

Forecasting now is at a point where schools could reasonably institute a no-school-today policy when these types of things are possible.  It's already been pointed out that this outbreak was predicted several days in advance.  Cancelling school a few days a year and making them up later would be way more cost-effective than building and retrofitting school buildings with storm shelters.

For many people, they can't afford to stay home from work or risk being laid off for doing so.  It comes back to economic drivers again.

And what happens if they cancel school & people stay home from and then nothing touches down? It'd be like canceling for a snowstorm & then it doesn't snow. People be mighty pissed about it. AND another unintended consequence is that the next time they try to shut down for severe weather, people won't believe them. "Well last time nothing happened....." It's a fine line to walk. I wouldn't want my hand on the big red [siren] button.


I'm fully expecting that after this, the biatching when it happens here will die down for a couple of years.
 
2013-05-20 08:55:23 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


I can't imagine - just relieved to see a post from you. :p
 
2013-05-20 08:55:26 PM

Tom_Slick: Winner Winner Chicken Dinner


yaaay!
 
2013-05-20 08:55:42 PM

WhyteRaven74: Tom_Slick: I live on Lake Lanier now in a town whose name I hate to mention aloud.

Cumming?

/only Georgia town I can think of with a name that would qualify


LOL, I needed a laugh though...
 
2013-05-20 08:55:44 PM
In Corpus we do not usually have tornadoes (only a couple in 30+ years,) but we DO have hurricanes: seven bad ones from 1919--1980, followed by nothing in the last 33 years.

By the law of averages at least, we are long overdue.

People laugh at me for being a prepper, but when the sh*t hits the fan I am the only guy on the block with lights, TV and Innertubes.
 
2013-05-20 08:55:57 PM
i.imgur.com
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe
 
2013-05-20 08:56:15 PM

Mrtraveler01: artemusprine: OK, I get it.  People who don't believe in God think prayer is a waste of time.  It is utterly stupid to hope that people are found alive and well, are reunited with loved ones, and taken care of because hoping changes nothing according to a purely rational worldview.  And why be thankful that you barely survived a massive calamity if there is no God to thank (and if even if there were you can't know that you aren't on his to-do list for the next tornado)?  In the absence of compelling evidence for or against God, a willingness to believe has to be rooted in optimism.  I'll take that optimism over "don't waste your time praying" and "don't embarrass us both by thanking your made-up God" any day.

I'm a Christian but I see their point in thinking it's stupid when someone is saying thank god they're alive while just a few blocks a way, a bunch of children drowned in a bathroom destroyed by a tornado.


Everyone is expressing their feelings in different ways, right now, as I'm watching the coverage, I was trying to figure out why the asphalt on the road is all gone? Is the wind so powerful that it can peel asphalt and concrete off of the ground? It 's too difficult to fathom.
 
2013-05-20 08:56:20 PM
What a horrible situation.
 
2013-05-20 08:56:28 PM

Fiction Fan: AdolfOliverPanties    

aedude01:
How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.
Depends.  Is it a school of fish?
/probably too soon for jokes


 Yea. That joke was lamer than FDR's legs.


Hey hey hey. Too soon, man.
 
2013-05-20 08:56:29 PM
TWC Breaking @TWCBreaking 1m

AP reports at least 120 people, including 70 children, hospitalized with injuries from today's OKC/Moore
 
2013-05-20 08:56:31 PM

Bontesla: I've heard that Moore Medical is destroyed. Dispatchers were trying to contact the facility....


I'm pretty sure Moore Medical is where alllll those cars were piled up against a building.
 
2013-05-20 08:56:35 PM

Di Atribe: Linkster: slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.

It's Called money, ask your farking banker!

I'm amazed at how many people are really asking "the tough questions" about why buildings aren't built a certain way. As if NO ONE has thought of their solutions before. Ooooooh they're so smart!


The main reason is money, in that area bedrock is only a few feet down, not enough to excavate. so if you want a basement, your 150,000 dollar house, just became a 500,000 dollar house.
Asking the tough questions, I don't know, for the past 150 years, it's being done as good as is feasible.

Sorry, life is a biatch and all you easterners should not be surprised by this, those of us that grew up and or live in Tornado Alley know that any giving day you could have your ass sent into the next county.

Tragic YES.
 
2013-05-20 08:57:06 PM

knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.


After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.
 
2013-05-20 08:57:12 PM

The Downfall: 51 confirmed dead, per CBS news


That's ramping up far too quickly if true.  Not good.
 
2013-05-20 08:57:17 PM
CBS News @CBSNews 32s

LIVE: Moore, OK news conference is now underway. At least 51 fatalities reported by medical examiner.
 
2013-05-20 08:57:43 PM

Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: Apartment I'm in for the rest of the week is in PTC - love walking the trails (and dodging golf carts)

You can get a DUI on a Golf Cart just ask the former Mayor.


I assume all carts are driven by drunks, children and/or fools.
 
2013-05-20 08:58:07 PM

derpy: Bontesla: I've heard that Moore Medical is destroyed. Dispatchers were trying to contact the facility....

I'm pretty sure Moore Medical is where alllll those cars were piled up against a building.


Yeah. That's my understanding, too.
 
2013-05-20 08:58:19 PM
Apparently the other school was hit worse than the one they have been focusing on all afternoon.
 
2013-05-20 08:58:30 PM
Apparently the debris from Moore is still coming down in Arkansas, according to the weather guy from KFOR....
 
2013-05-20 08:58:39 PM
As a small town first responder I have seen some things that have rattled my cage but I pray to  Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan  that I never find myself in this kind of rescue/recovery situation.

My heart goes out to the people of Moore.
 
2013-05-20 08:58:56 PM

mrshowrules: The Downfall: 51 confirmed dead, per CBS news

That's ramping up far too quickly if true.  Not good.


CBS is getting their numbers from the state medical examiner
 
2013-05-20 08:58:57 PM

Mistymtnhop: Is the wind so powerful that it can peel asphalt and concrete off of the ground? It 's too difficult to fathom.


yes they can..but it is more suction than wind.
 
2013-05-20 08:58:58 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks! Do you know what it is like way above the tornado?
Does that suction dissipate above the clouds, or create a huge upwards force for miles upwards? would a plane flying at 40,000 feet, 10,000 ft above the top of the clouds be safe?


It goes up until it hits a temperature inversion layer (where the tops of the clouds form an "Anvil"). From there it more or less spreads out horizontally. That can be as high as 60K feet or so.
 
2013-05-20 08:59:15 PM
 
2013-05-20 08:59:17 PM

mr lawson: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.


Wow, so TV/movies/cartoons are sort of a little bit accurate, if exaggerated. Thanks, this is really interesting to learn.
 
2013-05-20 08:59:36 PM

mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true. Not good.


I'm getting kinda worried that they haven't shown the highways the tornado went over. They showed a bit earlier from one that was just a tangled mess of cars. Couldn't even tell which way they had been going or even if they had been on the highway previous.
 
2013-05-20 08:59:40 PM

Bunny Deville: After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.


That's good news,  Hey, I thought you were a TFer, or am I mistaken?
 
2013-05-20 08:59:43 PM
 
2013-05-20 09:00:17 PM
Farking MSNBC didn't switch to the conference....
 
2013-05-20 09:00:31 PM
Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?
 
2013-05-20 09:00:39 PM

WhyteRaven74: mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true. Not good.

I'm getting kinda worried that they haven't shown the highways the tornado went over. They showed a bit earlier from one that was just a tangled mess of cars. Couldn't even tell which way they had been going or even if they had been on the highway previous.


Buildings that don't exist don't even provide a place to search so bodies could be anywhere.
 
2013-05-20 09:00:39 PM
A several ton oil tank flew at least a half mile.  Expert from the Weather Channel says that proves this was an F5.
 
2013-05-20 09:00:46 PM
Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM  to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank
 
2013-05-20 09:01:05 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


Hhmmm both. Technically it just spins however when you have a large body of air/water etc spinning at high rate, partial vacuum and suction is automatically create.
 
2013-05-20 09:01:26 PM

skozlaw: Farking MSNBC didn't switch to the conference....


Neither is KFOR.
 
2013-05-20 09:01:29 PM

Mistymtnhop: Is the wind so powerful that it can peel asphalt and concrete off of the ground? It 's too difficult to fathom.


It gets scoured off. Kinda like sandblasting only much worse.
 
2013-05-20 09:01:48 PM

Radioactive Ass: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks! Do you know what it is like way above the tornado?
Does that suction dissipate above the clouds, or create a huge upwards force for miles upwards? would a plane flying at 40,000 feet, 10,000 ft above the top of the clouds be safe?

It goes up until it hits a temperature inversion layer (where the tops of the clouds form an "Anvil"). From there it more or less spreads out horizontally. That can be as high as 60K feet or so.


Wow. So a plane would have to be really, REALLY high up. Not something for a commercial airliner.
 
2013-05-20 09:01:48 PM
Does anyone have any word on the oil field that was hit? HAZMAT was being called - oil was spilling into a creek.
 
2013-05-20 09:01:51 PM

LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?


Do it before the looters do?
 
2013-05-20 09:02:36 PM

QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank


Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.
 
2013-05-20 09:02:41 PM

Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.


There's those dynamo crank powered radios these days too. Some even have a USB port to charge things like your phone.
 
2013-05-20 09:02:50 PM

spidermilk: optikeye: Geeze their interviewing one guy that's home was destroyed and he's talking about how all his guns where in a gun safe and he only lost one gun. Seriously, WTF dude.

1. Your home is destroyed by a huge massive force and you miraculously survive- he is probably in a bit of a daze/shock.

2. People don't practice what they are going to say when their home is destroyed and the news want to interview them.

3. Give the guy a break his home was destroyed and he probably has no idea what friends and neighbors have or have not lost.


bears repeating.  I know it's fun to make fun of the rednecks (8 years in OK, the rest in MS), but these folks have lost everything.  I know its Fark, but a little decency might be in order tonight.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:01 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: A several ton oil tank flew at least a half mile.  Expert from the Weather Channel says that proves this was an F5.


I'll wait until the Weather Service declares it as such.   Hard to believe a source that is consistently trying to drum up shait and naming winter storms.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:10 PM
OU Prime is off line.... It is (was?) the best weather radar in the world.  It was on the Moore side of Norman.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:18 PM

hasty ambush: Outrageous Muff: Personally, I blame Al Gore for inventing Climate Change.


March 2013 Tornadoes: Fewest in Decades

Global warming has stalled since 1998


2013 is an odd year, because the global warming situated itself over Greenland.  This caused colder air to stay over the US and make the first 5 months colder than normal.

Basically, March-like weather is just NOW starting to happen - which is why we're seeing the crazy tornado outbreaks of yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:22 PM

TommyDeuce: LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?

Do it before the looters do?


Eh, if you care about your TV that much after all this... Or if it's worth that much.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:23 PM

The Downfall: 51 confirmed dead, per CBS news


I'm hoping you're wrong & meant to say CNN.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:43 PM

zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe


So, leave the continent, then?
 
2013-05-20 09:03:48 PM

mr lawson: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.


whyfiles.org

Hm, here's a graphic to look at for those of you who are unfamiliar with how tornadoes work. The systems that create tornadoes are generally more complicated than this. Looking for more. Maybe some of you confirmed tornado nerds have something better handy.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:54 PM

Glendale: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

There's those dynamo crank powered radios these days too. Some even have a USB port to charge things like your phone.


Yup, my flashlight has that.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:56 PM

TommyDeuce: LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?

Do it before the looters do?


Bulky and cheap.  I'd leave mine behind.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:56 PM

Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.


Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:33 PM

wxboy: If parents can deal with snow days, they can deal with tornado days. Of course some can't, but that's true everywhere.


So you have about 30 minutes from Tornado watch to tornado warning, if at all.  Then maybe a touchdown in that big ass box, if at all. It's not THIS WILL HAPPEN!!  They don't know.

when I was Kansas last time. I just sat there and watched the radar, no where to go, no place to hide, today's a good day to die!
 
2013-05-20 09:04:39 PM

zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe


www.physicalgeography.net


It is just a question of which natural disaster do you want to endue
 
2013-05-20 09:04:44 PM
I got out of Wichita Falls in 1974.  The big tornado hit in 1978, and was probably worse than the Moore tornado.

Some of my friends who are technically skilled designed a tornado shelter which could protect a dozen people, and you could probably cram a lot more in it in an emergency.  It sold for a reasonable price.

Nobody would buy.

People came up with every silly excuse in the book, even though they lived in tornado alley and had just gone through the worst storm in history.  People will not take care of themselves, they expect others to do it, then they are caught with their pants down.

Happens every time.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:44 PM

legion_of_doo: The Downfall: 51 confirmed dead, per CBS news

I'm hoping you're wrong & meant to say CNN.


ME office confirming via AP
 
2013-05-20 09:04:45 PM

TommyDeuce: LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?

Do it before the looters do?


At this stage, I'd let them.  It's not like Moore, OK is going to have power any time soon.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:58 PM

knbber2: Bunny Deville: After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

That's good news,  Hey, I thought you were a TFer, or am I mistaken?


It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:03 PM
just got a tornado watch posted until 3 am.

gonna be a long night.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:06 PM
Cadaver dog (black lab) just did a bee-line to a puddle.

/Yup, pure-bred Lab
 
2013-05-20 09:05:23 PM

star_topology: TommyDeuce: LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?

Do it before the looters do?

Eh, if you care about your TV that much after all this... Or if it's worth that much.


Well, if you and your family are ok, and your house is pretty much destroyed, I would think your next step might be salvaging what you can.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:43 PM

mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true.


Via the 9News.com live stream, but medical examiner has confirmed 51 dead so far.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:47 PM

One Bad Apple: zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe

[www.physicalgeography.net image 580x400]


It is just a question of which natural disaster do you want to endue


I live in Ottawa in Canada and have been hit by two tornadoes.  My condo and my cottage.
 
2013-05-20 09:06:07 PM
Put up some raw footage of the Oklahoma tornadoes.Holy crap!
 
2013-05-20 09:06:22 PM
So is this now a documentary?

www.psychologyinaction.org
 
2013-05-20 09:06:43 PM

Di Atribe: mr lawson: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.

[whyfiles.org image 620x324]

Hm, here's a graphic to look at for those of you who are unfamiliar with how tornadoes work. The systems that create tornadoes are generally more complicated than this. Looking for more. Maybe some of you confirmed tornado nerds have something better handy.


That is pretty incredibly complicated.
I'll bet it was a big day for meteorologists when they were able to start collecting this data and start making sense of tornadoes. It looks like there is so much more going on than just what you see on (from) the ground.
 
2013-05-20 09:06:44 PM

skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.


The best option is to directly give the things that are needed to those who need them, but obviously this isn't possible for everyone.
I don't like the way Red Cross or a lot of big charities operate, but they are the best option for now.
 
2013-05-20 09:06:53 PM
I farked up my earlier response:

That's a good point.  You can't cram the students into a safe room  every time there's a warning, but this time they had a bit of time to prepare.  I watched this develop , and it's killing me that they had nowhere safe to go, but they still had to have known that this was coming.  They evaced the older grades earlier to a church or something like that.  I'm just pissed about, this and not really trying to argue anything.  I just think it could have been avoided.
 
2013-05-20 09:07:08 PM

skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.


skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.


I don't believe the derp,but I figured they'd be the most likely to get funds. I'm just sending mine elsewhere. the Red Cross gets my blood and my money fairly regularly. REDCROSS to 90999 gives $10 to them
 
2013-05-20 09:07:42 PM

Bathia_Mapes: mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true.

Via the 9News.com live stream, but medical examiner has confirmed 51 dead so far.


Then not good.  I suspected this would be over a hundred and that pretty much confirms that which is horrible.
 
2013-05-20 09:07:53 PM

Bunny Deville: It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.


Too long, here you go.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:18 PM

TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.

My house is on a slab and has a "Tornado Closet" (read steel reinforced concrete box in the center of the house) I keep my go bag,  pry-bar, hatchet and a case of water. Should I have anything else in there?

We have snacks for the kids and dog, and a battery powered radio


Yes, you need 'assault weapons' and tons and tons of ammo.. P)
 
2013-05-20 09:08:30 PM

Radioactive Ass: Mistymtnhop: Is the wind so powerful that it can peel asphalt and concrete off of the ground? It 's too difficult to fathom.

It gets scoured off. Kinda like sandblasting only much worse.


Like the dude was saying earlier: It's not that the wind is blowing, it's WHAT the wind is blowing. Even though that tater salad fella said it, he's totally right. Most deaths in tornadoes are due to flying debris, not being sucked up a la Twister.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:31 PM

Bathia_Mapes: mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true.

Via the 9News.com live stream, but medical examiner has confirmed 51 dead so far.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-20 09:08:33 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.

Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.


I did a couple of density GIS maps of N. AL, Cullman and Madison definitely have the most. It was not a happy finding, let me tell you.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:39 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


I'm glad you're okay, man
 
2013-05-20 09:08:46 PM

LessO2: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: A several ton oil tank flew at least a half mile.  Expert from the Weather Channel says that proves this was an F5.

I'll wait until the Weather Service declares it as such.   Hard to believe a source that is consistently trying to drum up shait and naming winter storms.


If it was Forbes who said it, you can believe it. He studied under Dr. Fujita who invented the original scale and was part of the panel that created the new scale. He knows his shiat.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:58 PM
...and sorry about the huge <i> fail..
 
2013-05-20 09:09:05 PM

QueenMamaBee: Sending my $10 to the food bank


As with all these things, the money comes through some 30 days after you pay your phone bill in which it's charged. To donate directly to the Oklahoma City Regional Food Bank, click here.

As for why schools don't have safe rooms above ground, here is what Oklahoma's education budget looks like. Here is what the legislature did in 2013 about this budget.

/finally heard from my friend who works at the theater directly hit. He's OK.
//he wasn't there.
 
2013-05-20 09:09:19 PM

Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

That's good news,  Hey, I thought you were a TFer, or am I mistaken?

It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.


Chalk it up to shock (and maybe all they found)
 
2013-05-20 09:09:49 PM
Our Tulsa TV station just announced 51 dead and they expect to find more.
 
2013-05-20 09:09:54 PM
Just saw a guy being interviewed live on CNN who was wearing a tank top with "She Wants the D" written on it. If you wear something like that, you are almost certain to end up on world-wide live television.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:18 PM
The 51 dead doesn't include the 20-30 kids they've yet to recover? Damn.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:25 PM

Bunny Deville: Enormous-Schwanstucker: http://kfor.com/2013/05/20/efforts-switch-to-recovery-at-moore-okla-e l ementary-school/

From the article....
First responders told KFOR-TV's Lance West they don't believe there are anymore survivors in the Plaza Towers Elementary school.

So far the bodies of seven children have been recovered.

Crews said they believe 20 to 30 more children may be inside but again, do not believe there are anymore survivors.


 Let that sink in for a minute. I harp on our school system here in Northern Va for hitting the goddamn panic button. No more. Never. Ever.
I can't even find the right words right now.
I yelled at my daughter earlier for something rather innocuous. We're heading downstairs for some ice cream.

Like I said earlier, I spent the morning at my daughter's elementary school hanging out with the fourth graders at their party and awards ceremony. Then I came home to hear this. When I heard about the confirmed bodies at plaza towers, I literally started crying while I was at publix picking up my son's prescription.


I started welling up when I was talking to my daughter about 20 minutes ago.

Look back at the party and awards and focus on that. My daughter graduates 4th grade in less than 3 weeks and you better believe my wife and I will be there to celebrate. 

I'm torn because my wife and are not helicopter parents at all. We watch her do stupid shiat and try to get her to learn from it but goddamnit, shiat like this makes me want to circle our wagons around her.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:27 PM

Iowan73: Just saw a guy being interviewed live on CNN who was wearing a tank top with "She Wants the D" written on it. If you wear something like that, you are almost certain to end up on world-wide live television.


After a tornado.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:30 PM
Oh wow. Dispatchers and responders are talking about postponing their efforts in finding their family in order to organize the search and rescue operations after the tornado.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:38 PM

One Bad Apple: zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe

[www.physicalgeography.net image 580x400]


It is just a question of which natural disaster do you want to endue


That's it I'm moving back to Maine, except I hate winter and there are few jobs for me there......I need to be independently wealthy so I can live in Maine May through October.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:42 PM

knbber2: Bunny Deville: It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.

Too long, here you go.


Thank you! I'd post a smiley or a happy face, but it seems like bad timing... I really appreciate it though!
 
2013-05-20 09:10:56 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


Is everyone you know OK?
 
2013-05-20 09:11:16 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Wow. So a plane would have to be really, REALLY high up. Not something for a commercial airliner.


Other than storm chasing planes no pilot in their right mind will go anywhere near a thunderstorm on purpose. They will even go a hundred+ miles out of the way to avoid it if they have to. Not only because of the winds (which can drop an airplane thousands of feet in a few seconds in they hit a down draft) (what goes up must come down you know) but also because there's hail in there a lot of the time and that can bring it down in some conditions.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:17 PM
51 now dead, expected to rise.  Incredible and awful.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:35 PM

Bunny Deville: Thank you! I'd post a smiley or a happy face, but it seems like bad timing... I really appreciate it though!


You are most welcome.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:43 PM
NBC News now saying 51 are dead.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:58 PM
Tulsa area Farker. We've had clouds, wind and thunder. That's it.

Just saw on MSNBC that 7 bodies recovered from Plaza Towers school.

And now I'm crying. Please be safe OKC area Farkers and non-Farkers.

/holds 11 month old son
 
2013-05-20 09:12:40 PM
51 confirmed dead
 
2013-05-20 09:13:05 PM

jdcgonzalez: Things just got interesting here in NW Arkansas. Tornado warning and severe thunderstorms. It went from still and quiet to torrential in a matter of seconds.


Yeah, that was a trip. Those straight line winds were brutal. I think I escaped with one downed tree. Not even close to a problem compared to all the other horrors this storm has brought.

i ain't going outside to check however.
 
2013-05-20 09:13:10 PM

ancker: How about you have some empathy for those affected instead of using this tragedy as a soapbox for your atheism.

What is wrong with you people? The victims have enough to deal with, they don't need you trying to rip away the only sense of comfort they have right now.


I agree, but...
The problem is when people rely on prayer/religion instead of practical solutions.
Which happens sometimes.
 
2013-05-20 09:13:15 PM
All of the children at Briarwood elementary are accounted for
 
2013-05-20 09:13:33 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Di Atribe: mr lawson: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.

[whyfiles.org image 620x324]

Hm, here's a graphic to look at for those of you who are unfamiliar with how tornadoes work. The systems that create tornadoes are generally more complicated than this. Looking for more. Maybe some of you confirmed tornado nerds have something better handy.

That is pretty incredibly complicated.
I'll bet it was a big day for meteorologists when they were able to start collecting this data and start making sense of tornadoes. It looks like there is so much more going on than just what you see on (from) the ground.


Yes, yes, yes, a tornado is the result of some very complex factors and they don't start at the bottom of the storm. they start way up. A lot of the bad ones the jet stream is involved in.
 
2013-05-20 09:13:39 PM

olddinosaur: I got out of Wichita Falls in 1974. The big tornado hit in 1978, and was probably worse than the Moore tornado.


It was 1979 & I was in that one, too. You're an old dinosaur though, so I'll let it slide. 42 died in that one, I believe.


Uchiha_Cycliste: That is pretty incredibly complicated.
I'll bet it was a big day for meteorologists when they were able to start collecting this data and start making sense of tornadoes. It looks like there is so much more going on than just what you see on (from) the ground.


That's actually a pretty simplistic graphic. Tornadic storms are like huge machines, churning hot & cold air up and down, left & right like a conveyor belt. I'm looking for a better graphic. I just figured that was a good one to get you started.

Weather balloons & radar were the two BIG advances in learning how tornadoes work.
 
2013-05-20 09:13:57 PM

tin_man: I'm glad you're okay, man


Thanks, man.

mrshowrules: Is everyone you know OK?


I don't know.  Waiting to hear.
 
2013-05-20 09:14:37 PM
TV affiliates in OKC reporting debris from the Moore, Ok tornado found as far away as Branson.
 
2013-05-20 09:14:44 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks! Do you know what it is like way above the tornado?
Does that suction dissipate above the clouds, or create a huge upwards force for miles upwards? would a plane flying at 40,000 feet, 10,000 ft above the top of the clouds be safe?


The huricane hunters can't even fly in these storms.  There have been some flights near big storms with NASA jets but they don't get very close and they have broken planes.  A storm like this would be causing turbulence up to 65,000 feet or more.  The tops of these have messed with weather balloons at 85,000 ft and they kick enough air into space that detectors on the ISS and shuttle can detect it.
 
2013-05-20 09:14:46 PM

Professor Farksworth: LessO2: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: A several ton oil tank flew at least a half mile.  Expert from the Weather Channel says that proves this was an F5.

I'll wait until the Weather Service declares it as such.   Hard to believe a source that is consistently trying to drum up shait and naming winter storms.

If it was Forbes who said it, you can believe it. He studied under Dr. Fujita who invented the original scale and was part of the panel that created the new scale. He knows his shiat.


NWS won't say it until they can get people in on the ground to confirm it for themselves, and that probably won't be until tomorrow.  Probably the EF4 estimate from them right now is just from the media shots they've seen.  They were probably still working on surveying yesterday's tornadoes this morning.
 
2013-05-20 09:15:08 PM

Minarets: All of the children at Briarwood elementary are accounted for


Not sure that's the case, I think they were talking about those two kids.
 
2013-05-20 09:15:09 PM
I went to buy beer.  It's how my family copes.  I suggest beer, a good cry, and maybe getting away from the news for a bit if you have the privilege to be able to do so.  If you're in Oklahoma... fark.  I'll drink one for you.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:04 PM

Linkster: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7759176/84328912#c84328912" target="_blank">wxboy</a>:</b> <i>If parents can deal with snow days, they can deal with tornado days. Of course some can't, but that's true everywhere.</i>

So you have about 30 minutes from Tornado watch to tornado warning, if at all.  Then maybe a touchdown in that big ass box, if at all. It's not THIS WILL HAPPEN!!  They don't know.

when I was Kansas last time. I just sat there and watched the radar, no where to go, no place to hide, today's a good day to die!


And a lot of people don't watch the news during the day. Even if they heard the sirens they might just think it's a regular thunder storm or another test.  If anything, they need a more unique way to warn people.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:04 PM
One of the reasons I bought my house was due to it being built with a fallout shelter. Built in 1958. The house inspector who went through was amazed with the steel beams holding up the concrete that was the base for the garage. I figured that anyone building a house like that, there would be less issues over the years with construction quality.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:05 PM

Bunny Deville: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.

Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.

I did a couple of density GIS maps of N. AL, Cullman and Madison definitely have the most. It was not a happy finding, let me tell you.


I'll bet, I'm hiding in a Cove myself but ya never know.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:11 PM

LessO2: Minarets: All of the children at Briarwood elementary are accounted for

Not sure that's the case, I think they were talking about those two kids.


A mother told the reporter that everyone was accounted for, and then that reporter relayed it on air - so nothing official yet.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:29 PM

skozlaw: Iowan73: Just saw a guy being interviewed live on CNN who was wearing a tank top with "She Wants the D" written on it. If you wear something like that, you are almost certain to end up on world-wide live television.

After a tornado.


CSB

After the 1998 tornado that ripped through Hall County GA they were showing pictures of the damage,  a reporter was in front of this huge pile of scrap metal, he went to interview the guy walking around, the pile was not tornado damage but that is how his front yard always looked. He informed them of this fact on live TV stating "I didn't lose a damned thing."

/CSB
 
2013-05-20 09:16:29 PM

basemetal: tin_man: I'm glad you're okay, man

Thanks, man.

mrshowrules: Is everyone you know OK?

I don't know.  Waiting to hear.


I hope the friends and family you are closest to are safe.  Take care.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:38 PM

basemetal: tin_man: I'm glad you're okay, man

Thanks, man.

mrshowrules: Is everyone you know OK?

I don't know.  Waiting to hear.


Hang in there, bro.

fc05.deviantart.net
 
2013-05-20 09:16:38 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: RatOmeter: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?

The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.

Thanks, and do you know if it always sucks, or only sometimes (in some tornadoes). Or does it always suck but sometimes not as strongly?


Yes, it SUCKS.  It's a Nature-damned vortex.  Have you never drained a sink or tub and watched it?

The difference is that it's the rotating winds - no, save that.  It's that it's a difference in pressure.  In tornadoes it happens that the forces are somewhat inverted, with respect to a kitchen sink.   The physics are the same^W^W similar.   Awww, fark it.  The physics are the same,  it's just a matter of scale and what forces are in action.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:42 PM

basemetal: tin_man: I'm glad you're okay, man

Thanks, man.

mrshowrules: Is everyone you know OK?

I don't know.  Waiting to hear.


I hope the news is good - and that you get it soon.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:58 PM

Radioactive Ass: Uchiha_Cycliste: Wow. So a plane would have to be really, REALLY high up. Not something for a commercial airliner.

Other than storm chasing planes no pilot in their right mind will go anywhere near a thunderstorm on purpose. They will even go a hundred+ miles out of the way to avoid it if they have to. Not only because of the winds (which can drop an airplane thousands of feet in a few seconds in they hit a down draft) (what goes up must come down you know) but also because there's hail in there a lot of the time and that can bring it down in some conditions.


So these storms are just massive volumes of danger, chaos and instability whose reach far extends their visible appearance.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:59 PM

KhamanV: I went to buy beer.  It's how my family copes.  I suggest beer, a good cry, and maybe getting away from the news for a bit if you have the privilege to be able to do so.  If you're in Oklahoma... fark.  I'll drink one for you.


THIS!
 
2013-05-20 09:17:52 PM

Cytokine Storm: ArkAngel: If tornadoes in Kansas bring you to Oz, where do tornadoes in Oklahoma bring you?

Arkansas

/sometimes Missouri


Whew, I'm glad I don't have to handle this one.
 
2013-05-20 09:18:10 PM

Begoggle: skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.

The best option is to directly give the things that are needed to those who need them, but obviously this isn't possible for everyone.
I don't like the way Red Cross or a lot of big charities operate, but they are the best option for now.


Again, I highly recommend Mennonite Disaster Services,  http://www.mds.mennonite.net/. Those people are amazing, and they really impressed me after the Alabama tornadoes two years ago.
 
2013-05-20 09:18:47 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.

Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.

I did a couple of density GIS maps of N. AL, Cullman and Madison definitely have the most. It was not a happy finding, let me tell you.

I'll bet, I'm hiding in a Cove myself but ya never know.


No shiat, me too! I'm in Camelot off Bailey Cove.
 
2013-05-20 09:19:23 PM

LessO2: Minarets: All of the children at Briarwood elementary are accounted for

Not sure that's the case, I think they were talking about those two kids.


The mother said she had been told all were accounted for.  So, second hand information, but here's hoping.
 
2013-05-20 09:19:35 PM

basemetal: tin_man: I'm glad you're okay, man

Thanks, man.

mrshowrules: Is everyone you know OK?

I don't know.  Waiting to hear.


haven't read all of the thread, did you take a hit?
 
2013-05-20 09:19:35 PM

Theory Of Null: Linkster: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7759176/84328912#c84328912" target="_blank">wxboy</a>:</b> <i>If parents can deal with snow days, they can deal with tornado days. Of course some can't, but that's true everywhere.</i>

So you have about 30 minutes from Tornado watch to tornado warning, if at all.  Then maybe a touchdown in that big ass box, if at all. It's not THIS WILL HAPPEN!!  They don't know.

when I was Kansas last time. I just sat there and watched the radar, no where to go, no place to hide, today's a good day to die!

And a lot of people don't watch the news during the day. Even if they heard the sirens they might just think it's a regular thunder storm or another test.  If anything, they need a more unique way to warn people.


It's gotten better, when I was a kid the twister would have dissipated about the time the sirens go off.

Trust me, Tornado sirens are what they are, no one in that area blows sirens for a pussy ass thunderstorm.
 
2013-05-20 09:19:45 PM

MrSteve007: So is this now a documentary?

[www.psychologyinaction.org image 800x599]


That was a weird movie....
 
2013-05-20 09:19:55 PM
And I can't watch this anymore.
 
2013-05-20 09:19:55 PM
basemetal:

mrshowrules: Is everyone you know OK?

I don't know.  Waiting to hear.


Sending positive thoughts your way...
 
2013-05-20 09:20:55 PM

exvaxman: One of the reasons I bought my house was due to it being built with a fallout shelter. Built in 1958. The house inspector who went through was amazed with the steel beams holding up the concrete that was the base for the garage. I figured that anyone building a house like that, there would be less issues over the years with construction quality.


The tornado room was a deciding factor in my home purchase, sure it has vinyl floors and Formica counters but it is has a tornado room.

/Please tell me you have a Fallout Shelter sign.
 
2013-05-20 09:20:59 PM
CAN JERRY JONES PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP?!?!  STOP CHUCKLING!!!
 
2013-05-20 09:21:14 PM
According to AccuWeather, Fort Worth is under a tornado watch but Dallas is not.  However, everything to the north, west, and southwest of Dallas (almost to San Antonio) is under a tornado watch.
 
2013-05-20 09:21:28 PM

Bunny Deville: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.

Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.

I did a couple of density GIS maps of N. AL, Cullman and Madison definitely have the most. It was not a happy finding, let me tell you.

I'll bet, I'm hiding in a Cove myself but ya never know.

No shiat, me too! I'm in Camelot off Bailey Cove.


I'm on the Meridianville/New Market line. The tornado last March missed my house by less than 1000 feet. Three houses down the road and it was total destruction.
 
2013-05-20 09:21:47 PM

Bontesla: TV affiliates in OKC reporting debris from the Moore, Ok tornado found as far away as Branson.


Damn, but sorta expected : (
 
2013-05-20 09:22:03 PM
TV affiliates in OKC reporting debris from the  Moore, Ok tornado found as far away as Branson.

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Jeezus. Who the hell goes to Branson? Not a very classy tornado.
 
2013-05-20 09:22:37 PM
I don't care about CNN's accuracy in reporting, this blonde is a farking babe.
 
2013-05-20 09:22:40 PM

basemetal: tin_man: I'm glad you're okay, man

Thanks, man.

mrshowrules: Is everyone you know OK?

I don't know.  Waiting to hear.


*hugs*
 
2013-05-20 09:22:53 PM
Seriously, every woman they interview from Oklahoma is obese.
 
2013-05-20 09:23:21 PM
Bill Nye is on CNN. I know this dude is smart, but I just can't take him seriously.
 
2013-05-20 09:23:22 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: So these storms are just massive volumes of danger, chaos and instability whose reach far extends their visible appearance.


lol..yeah.
 
2013-05-20 09:23:26 PM

Theory Of Null: Linkster: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7759176/84328912#c84328912" target="_blank">wxboy</a>:</b> <i>If parents can deal with snow days, they can deal with tornado days. Of course some can't, but that's true everywhere.</i>

And a lot of people don't watch the news during the day. Even if they heard the sirens they might just think it's a regular thunder storm or another test.  If anything, they need a more unique way to warn people.


I don't know how tornado sirens work in other towns- but in my city they test the first Weds of the month at noon- if the weather is good and sunny/clear- they would NEVER test if it were raining or questionable or not noon on a Wednesday- there is nothing confusing about it. Otherwise, the sirens are only used if there is a tornado spotted or they see imminent signs on the radar that they think is/will be a tornado. It is a serious thing and then if you turn on your radio they very clearly say when the warning is over (and it is usually short like 15-30 minutes). Not overused, everyone takes them seriously.
 
2013-05-20 09:23:27 PM

star_topology: And I can't watch this anymore.


The vampires & ghouls in the news industry are particularly bad in these times.

/prayers to the victims now, donations to the relief effort when I'm home again
 
2013-05-20 09:23:35 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Uchiha_Cycliste: Di Atribe: mr lawson: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.

[whyfiles.org image 620x324]

Hm, here's a graphic to look at for those of you who are unfamiliar with how tornadoes work. The systems that create tornadoes are generally more complicated than this. Looking for more. Maybe some of you confirmed tornado nerds have something better handy.

That is pretty incredibly complicated.
I'll bet it was a big day for meteorologists when they were able to start collecting this data and start making sense of tornadoes. It looks like there is so much more going on than just what you see on (from) the ground.

Yes, yes, yes, a tornado is the result of some very complex factors and they don't start at the bottom of the storm. they start way up. A lot of the bad ones the jet stream is involved in.


That's just cheating! jesus
 
2013-05-20 09:23:45 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Shadow Blasko: Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: Work boots, gloves, helmets, and something that can make a lot of noise, for each person.

Check, Check, nope, nope.  I am making a list.

Cheap bicycle helmets will work better than nothing, but just have something to protect your head, even for after you get out of the saferoom.

Oh, and talk to your doctor or pharmacy about having a 10 day emergency supply of any essential medications for anyone in your family.

And, a list of post-event things you must do. IE - Turn off gas and/or water if possible (have tools to do both) etc

They interviewed a lady earlier she was still wearing a batters helmet, cool lady she was obviously shaken up but alive.


Yeah, I wanted to give that lady a hug.  She was pretty shaken up but she was cool.
 
2013-05-20 09:23:49 PM

Krustofsky: According to AccuWeather, Fort Worth is under a tornado watch but Dallas is not.  However, everything to the north, west, and southwest of Dallas (almost to San Antonio) is under a tornado watch.


That cell to the SW of the DFW area is just freaking STATIONARY. It's just been sitting there churning in place for almost an hour I think,.
 
2013-05-20 09:23:53 PM
Anyone catch the text number? I have a few texts to send.
 
2013-05-20 09:23:59 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: Seriously, every woman they interview from Oklahoma is obese.


The light ones were blown away.
 
2013-05-20 09:24:05 PM

Fiction Fan: TV affiliates in OKC reporting debris from the  Moore, Ok tornado found as far away as Branson.

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Jeezus. Who the hell goes to Branson? Not a very classy tornado.


They've cleaned up to town, in recent years. Very few of the casino signs are misspelled. :P
 
2013-05-20 09:24:17 PM
From the way it was described, I was expecting to hear numbers like "100,000 dead, 500,000 injured". So in that sense, it's not that terrible
 
2013-05-20 09:24:17 PM
What a horrible situation.
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Are you talking about this thread, or the tornados that hit today?
 
2013-05-20 09:24:22 PM
Holy crap
 
2013-05-20 09:24:27 PM

Tom_Slick: exvaxman: One of the reasons I bought my house was due to it being built with a fallout shelter. Built in 1958. The house inspector who went through was amazed with the steel beams holding up the concrete that was the base for the garage. I figured that anyone building a house like that, there would be less issues over the years with construction quality.

The tornado room was a deciding factor in my home purchase, sure it has vinyl floors and Formica counters but it is has a tornado room.

/Please tell me you have a Fallout Shelter sign.


I wish I had a house with an awesome shelter, but there's no practical need for one where I live.
 
2013-05-20 09:24:35 PM

Enormous-Schwanstucker: My daughter graduates 4th grade in less than 3 weeks and you better believe my wife and I will be there to celebrate.


Not trying to snark, but seriously?  They have ceremonies for each elementary grade level now?  Do they have a valedictorian?  Who's the speaker?  Clifford the Big Red Dog?
 
2013-05-20 09:25:01 PM

Fiction Fan: TV affiliates in OKC reporting debris from the  Moore, Ok tornado found as far away as Branson.

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Jeezus. Who the hell goes to Branson? Not a very classy tornado.


I'll pass on writing it down to be sensitive, but if you're in the mood feel free to create your own Yakov Smirnoff joke for this one.
 
2013-05-20 09:25:03 PM

Austin: Bunny Deville: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.

Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.

I did a couple of density GIS maps of N. AL, Cullman and Madison definitely have the most. It was not a happy finding, let me tell you.

I'll bet, I'm hiding in a Cove myself but ya never know.

No shiat, me too! I'm in Camelot off Bailey Cove.

I'm on the Meridianville/New Market line. The tornado last March missed my house by less than 1000 feet. Three houses down the road and it was total destruction.


I've got a great shot of a funnel cloud from my old apartment next to Grissom, but I've been lucky enough to be far from any real destruction so far.
 
2013-05-20 09:25:14 PM
Dear 11-Dimensional Bored Geek Playing 3+1-Dimensional Simcity:

img.fark.net

Yes, seriously.  QUIT HITTING THE GODDAMN TORNADO BUTTON.  This is getting not only a bit redonkulous but a whole lot of sad and the very sort of thing we don't like to see. :(

Just friggin' stop it with the metaphysical tornado button.  :P

(And I know it's already been mentioned, but people laugh when schools and businesses in Dixie Alley and Hoosier Alley have Tornado Days and Early Pretty-Damn-Severe Tornado Watch Dismissals (yeah, pretty much anytime a PDS tornado watch gets issued here there's a general early dismissal plan in a lot of cities here)...well, this is why. :(  I'm not sure it would have helped much, but it's the sort of thing that the early dismissals are meant to prevent in theory.  And yes, this is actually somewhat of a new thing around here, but especially after some outbreaks in the 90s and the Mega Outbreak in 2011 it's something that is taken fairly seriously.)

And in addition to battery and "Freeplay" crank-dynamo radios...if you have an interest in helping to get better early warning and help with coordinating rescue, I encourage folks to get their ham radio licenses and consider getting training to become a Skywarn storm spotter.  (You don't even need Morse anymore to get a ham radio license--it helps in multistate communication, yes, but most of the Skywarn nets and emergency nets tend to be on VHF repeaters--and you can actually get spotter training online if there isn't an NWS spotter course nearby.  Also, ham radio tends to work well when the cell towers are out.)

/really hopes for the AR/OK/MO folks that the 11-dimensional kid quits hitting the tornado button
//godfarkingdamnit, I thought we were generally past the days when tornadoes racked up huge death counts in the US :(
 
2013-05-20 09:25:19 PM

Linkster: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7759176/84329551#c84329551" target="_blank">Theory Of Null</a>:</b> <i>Linkster: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7759176/84328912#c84328912" target="_blank">wxboy</a>:</b> <i>If parents can deal with snow days, they can deal with tornado days. Of course some can't, but that's true everywhere.</i>

So you have about 30 minutes from Tornado watch to tornado warning, if at all.  Then maybe a touchdown in that big ass box, if at all. It's not THIS WILL HAPPEN!!  They don't know.

when I was Kansas last time. I just sat there and watched the radar, no where to go, no place to hide, today's a good day to die!

And a lot of people don't watch the news during the day. Even if they heard the sirens they might just think it's a regular thunder storm or another test.  If anything, they need a more unique way to warn people.</i>

It's gotten better, when I was a kid the twister would have dissipated about the time the sirens go off.

Trust me, Tornado sirens are what they are, no one in that area blows sirens for a pussy ass thunderstorm.


Ha, where I'm from they test them once a month and they blow the siren for any storm with winds exceeding 30 mph.
 
2013-05-20 09:25:20 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: Seriously, every woman they interview from Oklahoma is obese.


The skinny ones all got blown away by past tornadoes.

/sorry
 
2013-05-20 09:25:31 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Bill Nye is on CNN. I know this dude is smart, but I just can't take him seriously.


He did have a good point though.  If you have F4 on top of you for that long, if is worse that a smaller (in size) F5 that tracks faster.
 
2013-05-20 09:25:55 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: So these storms are just massive volumes of danger, chaos and instability whose reach far extends their visible appearance.


And people wonder why men name storms after women?

/not saying I agree with that practice!
/not entirely, anyway

/I kid, I kid
 
2013-05-20 09:26:00 PM

zvoidx: MOVE

TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

South and east, hurricanes
West, fire and earthquake
North, blizzard

Where do you live?
 
2013-05-20 09:26:11 PM

Bunny Deville: No shiat, me too! I'm in Camelot off Bailey Cove.


Cool, if you and your hubby ever wanna drink Nicks and the Corner are right over there I'm just a bit farther east.