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2013-05-20 09:03:23 PM

The Downfall: 51 confirmed dead, per CBS news


I'm hoping you're wrong & meant to say CNN.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:43 PM

zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe


So, leave the continent, then?
 
2013-05-20 09:03:48 PM

mr lawson: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.


whyfiles.org

Hm, here's a graphic to look at for those of you who are unfamiliar with how tornadoes work. The systems that create tornadoes are generally more complicated than this. Looking for more. Maybe some of you confirmed tornado nerds have something better handy.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:54 PM

Glendale: Tom_Slick: TommyDeuce: a battery powered radio

I am a dumbass, I honestly did not think of that,  too reliant on internet based tech.

/Off to Radio Shack in the morning.

There's those dynamo crank powered radios these days too. Some even have a USB port to charge things like your phone.


Yup, my flashlight has that.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:56 PM

TommyDeuce: LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?

Do it before the looters do?


Bulky and cheap.  I'd leave mine behind.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:56 PM

Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.


Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:33 PM

wxboy: If parents can deal with snow days, they can deal with tornado days. Of course some can't, but that's true everywhere.


So you have about 30 minutes from Tornado watch to tornado warning, if at all.  Then maybe a touchdown in that big ass box, if at all. It's not THIS WILL HAPPEN!!  They don't know.

when I was Kansas last time. I just sat there and watched the radar, no where to go, no place to hide, today's a good day to die!
 
2013-05-20 09:04:39 PM

zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe


www.physicalgeography.net


It is just a question of which natural disaster do you want to endue
 
2013-05-20 09:04:44 PM
I got out of Wichita Falls in 1974.  The big tornado hit in 1978, and was probably worse than the Moore tornado.

Some of my friends who are technically skilled designed a tornado shelter which could protect a dozen people, and you could probably cram a lot more in it in an emergency.  It sold for a reasonable price.

Nobody would buy.

People came up with every silly excuse in the book, even though they lived in tornado alley and had just gone through the worst storm in history.  People will not take care of themselves, they expect others to do it, then they are caught with their pants down.

Happens every time.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:44 PM

legion_of_doo: The Downfall: 51 confirmed dead, per CBS news

I'm hoping you're wrong & meant to say CNN.


ME office confirming via AP
 
2013-05-20 09:04:45 PM

TommyDeuce: LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?

Do it before the looters do?


At this stage, I'd let them.  It's not like Moore, OK is going to have power any time soon.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:58 PM

knbber2: Bunny Deville: After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

That's good news,  Hey, I thought you were a TFer, or am I mistaken?


It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:03 PM
just got a tornado watch posted until 3 am.

gonna be a long night.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:06 PM
Cadaver dog (black lab) just did a bee-line to a puddle.

/Yup, pure-bred Lab
 
2013-05-20 09:05:23 PM

star_topology: TommyDeuce: LessO2: Wheeling out the big screen TV, really?

Do it before the looters do?

Eh, if you care about your TV that much after all this... Or if it's worth that much.


Well, if you and your family are ok, and your house is pretty much destroyed, I would think your next step might be salvaging what you can.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:43 PM

mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true.


Via the 9News.com live stream, but medical examiner has confirmed 51 dead so far.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:47 PM

One Bad Apple: zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe

[www.physicalgeography.net image 580x400]


It is just a question of which natural disaster do you want to endue


I live in Ottawa in Canada and have been hit by two tornadoes.  My condo and my cottage.
 
2013-05-20 09:06:07 PM
Put up some raw footage of the Oklahoma tornadoes.Holy crap!
 
2013-05-20 09:06:22 PM
So is this now a documentary?

www.psychologyinaction.org
 
2013-05-20 09:06:43 PM

Di Atribe: mr lawson: Uchiha_Cycliste: Thanks you guys for answering my sucky question. It was the first time I'd ever questioned the tornado's vortex and not just taken it's properties for granted.

it does indeed suck upward.
It is a VERY low pressure center.
The out gassing is near the top of the supercell.
That is why you have items found hundred of miles away.
some of the lighter stuff gets sucked up tens of thousands of feet into the air.

[whyfiles.org image 620x324]

Hm, here's a graphic to look at for those of you who are unfamiliar with how tornadoes work. The systems that create tornadoes are generally more complicated than this. Looking for more. Maybe some of you confirmed tornado nerds have something better handy.


That is pretty incredibly complicated.
I'll bet it was a big day for meteorologists when they were able to start collecting this data and start making sense of tornadoes. It looks like there is so much more going on than just what you see on (from) the ground.
 
2013-05-20 09:06:44 PM

skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.


The best option is to directly give the things that are needed to those who need them, but obviously this isn't possible for everyone.
I don't like the way Red Cross or a lot of big charities operate, but they are the best option for now.
 
2013-05-20 09:06:53 PM
I farked up my earlier response:

That's a good point.  You can't cram the students into a safe room  every time there's a warning, but this time they had a bit of time to prepare.  I watched this develop , and it's killing me that they had nowhere safe to go, but they still had to have known that this was coming.  They evaced the older grades earlier to a church or something like that.  I'm just pissed about, this and not really trying to argue anything.  I just think it could have been avoided.
 
2013-05-20 09:07:08 PM

skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.


skozlaw: QueenMamaBee: Not reading all the way back,but I just got a text on how to send help, even if you choose not to use the Red Cross, text FOOD to 32333 for $10 to the Oklahoma City food bank, text STORM to 80888 for $10 to the Salvation Army. Sending my $10 to the food bank

Which is fine, but people should also need be dissuaded from using the Red Cross. If you really believe the derp about them, fine, send to one of the other places, but don't just not donate because one dickhead said stupid things about them on TV.


I don't believe the derp,but I figured they'd be the most likely to get funds. I'm just sending mine elsewhere. the Red Cross gets my blood and my money fairly regularly. REDCROSS to 90999 gives $10 to them
 
2013-05-20 09:07:42 PM

Bathia_Mapes: mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true.

Via the 9News.com live stream, but medical examiner has confirmed 51 dead so far.


Then not good.  I suspected this would be over a hundred and that pretty much confirms that which is horrible.
 
2013-05-20 09:07:53 PM

Bunny Deville: It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.


Too long, here you go.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:18 PM

TommyDeuce: Tom_Slick: Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.

My house is on a slab and has a "Tornado Closet" (read steel reinforced concrete box in the center of the house) I keep my go bag,  pry-bar, hatchet and a case of water. Should I have anything else in there?

We have snacks for the kids and dog, and a battery powered radio


Yes, you need 'assault weapons' and tons and tons of ammo.. P)
 
2013-05-20 09:08:30 PM

Radioactive Ass: Mistymtnhop: Is the wind so powerful that it can peel asphalt and concrete off of the ground? It 's too difficult to fathom.

It gets scoured off. Kinda like sandblasting only much worse.


Like the dude was saying earlier: It's not that the wind is blowing, it's WHAT the wind is blowing. Even though that tater salad fella said it, he's totally right. Most deaths in tornadoes are due to flying debris, not being sucked up a la Twister.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:31 PM

Bathia_Mapes: mrshowrules: That's ramping up far too quickly if true.

Via the 9News.com live stream, but medical examiner has confirmed 51 dead so far.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-20 09:08:33 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: Anyway, the moral of the story is that North Alabama is generally more prone to EF3 and above tornadoes than anywhere else on the planet, so we take that shiat seriously up here.

Jeez, didn't know that.  I've lived in several states that are prone and I've been through a few (luckily missed our house), but other than the Omaha tornado, they were relatively small.  You keep your head down and stay safe.

After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

Madison/Harvest/Monrovia, now... those people need to worry.

Well of course Airport RD/Jones Valley as well, but Cullman seems to be the states bad weather magnate.
/Just saying,
//but yea lots seem to track towards Meridianville and North.


I did a couple of density GIS maps of N. AL, Cullman and Madison definitely have the most. It was not a happy finding, let me tell you.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:39 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


I'm glad you're okay, man
 
2013-05-20 09:08:46 PM

LessO2: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: A several ton oil tank flew at least a half mile.  Expert from the Weather Channel says that proves this was an F5.

I'll wait until the Weather Service declares it as such.   Hard to believe a source that is consistently trying to drum up shait and naming winter storms.


If it was Forbes who said it, you can believe it. He studied under Dr. Fujita who invented the original scale and was part of the panel that created the new scale. He knows his shiat.
 
2013-05-20 09:08:58 PM
...and sorry about the huge <i> fail..
 
2013-05-20 09:09:05 PM

QueenMamaBee: Sending my $10 to the food bank


As with all these things, the money comes through some 30 days after you pay your phone bill in which it's charged. To donate directly to the Oklahoma City Regional Food Bank, click here.

As for why schools don't have safe rooms above ground, here is what Oklahoma's education budget looks like. Here is what the legislature did in 2013 about this budget.

/finally heard from my friend who works at the theater directly hit. He's OK.
//he wasn't there.
 
2013-05-20 09:09:19 PM

Bunny Deville: knbber2: Bunny Deville: After researching all of those tornadoes, I found out that they like to form on the OTHER side of the mountain from my house. This makes me a happy bunny.

That's good news,  Hey, I thought you were a TFer, or am I mistaken?

It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.


Chalk it up to shock (and maybe all they found)
 
2013-05-20 09:09:49 PM
Our Tulsa TV station just announced 51 dead and they expect to find more.
 
2013-05-20 09:09:54 PM
Just saw a guy being interviewed live on CNN who was wearing a tank top with "She Wants the D" written on it. If you wear something like that, you are almost certain to end up on world-wide live television.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:18 PM
The 51 dead doesn't include the 20-30 kids they've yet to recover? Damn.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:25 PM

Bunny Deville: Enormous-Schwanstucker: http://kfor.com/2013/05/20/efforts-switch-to-recovery-at-moore-okla-e l ementary-school/

From the article....
First responders told KFOR-TV's Lance West they don't believe there are anymore survivors in the Plaza Towers Elementary school.

So far the bodies of seven children have been recovered.

Crews said they believe 20 to 30 more children may be inside but again, do not believe there are anymore survivors.


 Let that sink in for a minute. I harp on our school system here in Northern Va for hitting the goddamn panic button. No more. Never. Ever.
I can't even find the right words right now.
I yelled at my daughter earlier for something rather innocuous. We're heading downstairs for some ice cream.

Like I said earlier, I spent the morning at my daughter's elementary school hanging out with the fourth graders at their party and awards ceremony. Then I came home to hear this. When I heard about the confirmed bodies at plaza towers, I literally started crying while I was at publix picking up my son's prescription.


I started welling up when I was talking to my daughter about 20 minutes ago.

Look back at the party and awards and focus on that. My daughter graduates 4th grade in less than 3 weeks and you better believe my wife and I will be there to celebrate. 

I'm torn because my wife and are not helicopter parents at all. We watch her do stupid shiat and try to get her to learn from it but goddamnit, shiat like this makes me want to circle our wagons around her.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:27 PM

Iowan73: Just saw a guy being interviewed live on CNN who was wearing a tank top with "She Wants the D" written on it. If you wear something like that, you are almost certain to end up on world-wide live television.


After a tornado.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:30 PM
Oh wow. Dispatchers and responders are talking about postponing their efforts in finding their family in order to organize the search and rescue operations after the tornado.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:38 PM

One Bad Apple: zvoidx: [i.imgur.com image 320x240]
MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS THERE'S NO TORNADOES!

/just sayin'
//stay safe

[www.physicalgeography.net image 580x400]


It is just a question of which natural disaster do you want to endue


That's it I'm moving back to Maine, except I hate winter and there are few jobs for me there......I need to be independently wealthy so I can live in Maine May through October.
 
2013-05-20 09:10:42 PM

knbber2: Bunny Deville: It expired today! I'll get it again in a few weeks.

Too long, here you go.


Thank you! I'd post a smiley or a happy face, but it seems like bad timing... I really appreciate it though!
 
2013-05-20 09:10:56 PM

basemetal: It's bad in Moore, folks, really bad. Surprised the body count isn't higher.


Is everyone you know OK?
 
2013-05-20 09:11:16 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Wow. So a plane would have to be really, REALLY high up. Not something for a commercial airliner.


Other than storm chasing planes no pilot in their right mind will go anywhere near a thunderstorm on purpose. They will even go a hundred+ miles out of the way to avoid it if they have to. Not only because of the winds (which can drop an airplane thousands of feet in a few seconds in they hit a down draft) (what goes up must come down you know) but also because there's hail in there a lot of the time and that can bring it down in some conditions.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:17 PM
51 now dead, expected to rise.  Incredible and awful.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:35 PM

Bunny Deville: Thank you! I'd post a smiley or a happy face, but it seems like bad timing... I really appreciate it though!


You are most welcome.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:43 PM
NBC News now saying 51 are dead.
 
2013-05-20 09:11:58 PM
Tulsa area Farker. We've had clouds, wind and thunder. That's it.

Just saw on MSNBC that 7 bodies recovered from Plaza Towers school.

And now I'm crying. Please be safe OKC area Farkers and non-Farkers.

/holds 11 month old son
 
2013-05-20 09:12:40 PM
51 confirmed dead
 
2013-05-20 09:13:05 PM

jdcgonzalez: Things just got interesting here in NW Arkansas. Tornado warning and severe thunderstorms. It went from still and quiet to torrential in a matter of seconds.


Yeah, that was a trip. Those straight line winds were brutal. I think I escaped with one downed tree. Not even close to a problem compared to all the other horrors this storm has brought.

i ain't going outside to check however.
 
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